AMD's Ryzen CPUs (Ryzen/TR/Epyc) & Vega/Polaris/Navi GPUs

If they can get these into a Clevo, and use a decent keyboard, I would be all over them.
Glad I did not pull the trigger on a pre-order, as I did not like any of the motherboards or lack of something I was interested in, because of how fast they sold out.
I have been going back and forth between MSI laptop, Clevo laptop, or a new Ryzen desktop build.
I do not have the finances to do both, so I must decide. If someone hears rumors of a Ryzen clevo, I may hold out for that.

Or even a Eurocom Tornado
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...amd-ryzen-r7-8-core-cpu.801858/#post-10469947

 

At 40th page we finally got news that's for us (laptop enthusiasts)!

 

AMD Ryzen 7 1800X Vs Intel Core i7 6900K Gaming Performance Benchmarked http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-i7-6900k-gaming-performance/

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Overclocked To 4GHz On All 8 Cores – Provides 1800X+ Performance http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-overclocked-4ghz/?utm_source=wccftech&utm_medium=related

 

Very interesting, considering one of the mobo's I want (Asrock Taichi) seem to be one of the better oc'ing boards. I do want to see "street" reviews before I make my move. I've seen plenty of engineer boards function great in reviews and then turn out to be less than stellar in the hands of the general public. I will say I am excited (the young man in me wants one NOW) over the news.

EDIT: I will update the main post with more information about Ryzen.

 

The one they overclocked with, the ASUS Crosshair VI Hero, is the one I've been looking at and I think I will get, if I decide to go with Ryzen. Ryzen and Vega are sounding appetizing. http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-gpu-pi...irmed/?utm_source=wccftech&utm_medium=related

 

I am less sold on Vega. Not that I do not want AMD to be competitive with Nvidia (and Intel) but Nvidia recently flushed with cash can afford to wait. Even if Vega 10 can match or overtake Nvidia's GTX 1080, Nvidia is going to do they always do, rerelease the same GPU with a few changes, reclaim the performance crown and then price it competitively. Then there is Volta, early 2018...

 

Interesting read on AMD vs. Intel.

 

I will admit that Intel and other companies, have multiple loyalty programs in place, with some having major perks outside of industry normal rebates. I do not want to beat on AMD, but they have the same programs in place. Yes, Intel can price VERY aggressively in the enterprise (cost + rebates + incentives = AMD who?). Consumers looking at the prices of enterprise chips and think, wow those things cost so much, but only if you knew.

 

1800x outperforms I7 6950x with one click overclocking. (reportedly)

Ryzen benchmarks leaked.

 

Yeah we will see a change in processor performance On time AMD put out a competitor against Intel Nvidia next!!

“According to the performance we’re seeing we can say that the 7700K will be history, even for gaming.”

Edit:
Like I said in the Razerbook thread... Nice to be stuck with an fully locked down low binned [email protected] or the equal crippled Kaby [email protected] for 2-5 years down the road!!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...6-owners-lounge.797308/page-114#post-10470854

 

I have not been this excited about a cpu in a long time!



Quote from: Editors of Turkey’s oldest and biggest hardware and technology pub donanimhaber.com

“Overclocking hasn’t been a problem at all. Although we can’t announce specifics regarding frequencies due to NDA I can say that the results are impressive and overclockers will be pleased”

“With our overclocked 1800X sample cooled by the Noctua unit AMD provided in the reviewer’s kit we managed to surpass the 7700K in single threaded performance and the temperatures were great. We had no concerns about the temperatures.”

“You can achieve a good overclocking result with one click and you don’t even have to bother with manually overclocking/tuning.”

“It seems ironic yes, but with an auto-overclock the 1800X has no competition. Not even Intel’s 10 core 6950X can keep up with it.”

“According to the performance we’re seeing we can say that the 7700K will be history, even for gaming.”

 

Bring on the gamer history!

 

Me thinks AMD has hit one out of the ballpark this time. What a great moment in time if this is the case. All taken from the comment section of the link that Atma shared.

 

Perfect!

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-vega-gpu-pictured-q2-2017-launch-confirmed/

This isn’t the first demo we’ve seen of Vega however. An early engineering sample of Vega has already been demonstrated in action, outperforming the GTX 1080 by approximately 10% in DOOM whilst running on alpha 300 series Fury drivers.

 

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-1700x...e-ipc/?utm_source=wccftech&utm_medium=related

some actual numbers to show that Kaby/1700X comparison. And remember, you can select your best cores for overclock and can disable whatever cores you want (turn the 8-core to a 4-core to game or OC)....

 

Well, AMD can carefully pick their review samples hehe Hype is high and I'm quite confident we'll see some bloody great performance/dollar ratio, but I won't trust that review 100%

I'm still firm on selling my stuff to get an 8 core tho

 

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/56440/intel-rocked-core-over-ryzen-price-drops-begin/index.html

Everything has changed when the fire nation attacked... so the price war begins

 

This is only for Microcenter. They have done similar things with Intel chips before without AMD posing much threat.

 

Although this is just microcenter, I like how the articles states that AMD has set world records for cpu sales. Shows that most people are sick of the gouging from Intel. I for one am extatic, and hope the real world benchmarks are even better than the leaked ones are. If they are, then I forsee myself selling some old tech to be able to afford a new laptop, and a Ryzen desktop build. Maybe take a second out on the house!

 

http://wccftech.com/intel-playing-dirty-undercut-amd-ryzen/

Good article. But I would like to point out, in regards to the statement that the press denies being told to contact Intel before writing, that if they outed Intel, they would face a backlash in regards to access. So the denial means nothing!

 

Everyone hates a bully, and Intel has shown in the past, that is exactly what they are. The business practices described in that article make me want to puke. They have been on a gravy train for almost a decade, thinking AMD was not a player anymore. I hope Ryzen absolutely buries Kaby-Lake come March 2nd.

 

Welcome to the free market, sir.

As long as they have the market share advantage the monoplay-protection practice lives on. As an end user it's just a matter of like-it-or-not.

 

Hey guys... this might be something noteworthy for mobile users:
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/matthew-wilson/amd-said-to-launch-ryzenzen-apus-in-late-2017/

Ryzen APU's in late 2017.
Sigh... too far out, but I guess if I waited this long, might as well hang in a bit more.

This could indicate 6 core, 12 thread APU in notebooks - which I think would be great.
Alternatively, AMD could also double down on offering 8 core, 12 threads in mobile without an IGP but with a discrete GPU.

 

Yes and no. The EU applies Anti-trust/ Anti-monopoly laws more to protect consumers than the US does. China's laws are applied right in between what is seen in the US and what is seen in the EU. Unfortunately, from what I have seen, we have, through the courts, weakened the application for the protection of the people, instead favoring large MNCs.

 

As an end user, one should not like those type of practices, as we have seen from the crappy tech advancements and high prices from Intel. There are many laws in place to prevent monopolies from cornering their respective market place, but they are used far to infrequently, because this $$ is what rules the world.

 

I want one of those boxes!

 

Can't wait anymore I'm anxiously holding my breath for the temps on these bad boys, If the Ryzen beat the Kabylake singlethreaded with little OC and stay cool. Intel is toast, Eurocom MSI F7 should ship with these Ryzen 7 1800X CPUs
No Hexacore direct Octacore baby !

Hope March 2 is going to be Independence day for Consumers of PC market from ravenous BGAGrIntel clutches..

 

It seems to me that the leaked benchmarks already pretty much stated that Ryzen is neck and neck with Intel offerings on stock in single thread and overshoots it by 9% in multi-threading - this coming from 1700X supposedly.

 

Desktop high frequency octacore in a laptop chassis? Clevo's cooling system designers will get very busy again.

I know the TDP is 95W, but does it actually consume that little under load? Full system power measurements show efficiency wise it's only marginally better than 6900K (140W TDP), right?

Fortunately the thermal density should be lower than that of the 7700K and AMD doesn't use a crappy IHS like Intel does.

 

I'm tempted to build a Ryzen machine just because...

 

oopsies for Intel.

beating 7700k single thread is amazing

 

I'm looking forward to ryzen apu's lowering the price of Intel laptops.

These 6700hq 7700hq laptops are too damn expensive

intel/nvidia duopoly is too expensive.

I want to see i7hq gtx1070 performance under $1000.

ryzen/vega, bring it.

 

Is it time to totally Boycott Intel?

Forget Intel completely, even after they drop the bottom out of their pricing.

Let Intel's previously overpriced product languish on the shelves until it gets pulled to be recycled.

You know, totally stop buying Intel computers and wait for AMD to deliver into the niche of your next purchase.

 

Rumor: Intel Could Commercialize A 12 Core/ 24 Thread Skylake-X CPU To Fight Ryzen – Reports Italian Publication

"Assuming Intel is actually preparing a 12 core variant to include in the Skylake-X lineup then that means that you are actually looking at a lineup shakeup. instead of the 6, 8 core high end parts, we will be looking at 6, 8, 10 and 12 core parts"

 

There are ppl who just enter shop and say "i need computer that turns on and i could play games and watch porn on". Well alrighty then i got some that been siting on my shelve for years. What you think as shop assistan/owner i will be saying for customer like that? "Just take a look at this one, it got high quality **** in it, that plastic, that screen, good isn't?" the customer like "oh i like it, i take it".
There are many ppl like that, who know NOTHING about computers and will take anything what assistant will recommend or what they have seen on some adds, believe me. About price difference they'll take anything as long as they believe it's worth to pay some extra for better quality, performance, features or what ever you gonna say to them.
In other words nothing will stay on shelve what seller is keen to sell.

 

It has always been like that. The thing is half of these people have a relative that knows a bit better. I'm not saying that all of these relatives would steer them clear off GrIntel, but at least they would give them sound advice to not buy $#!7 and I like to think that most of the times it would mean that they would stay away from GrIntel.

 

If AMD could come out with a "Pascal Killer", I'd be open to switching 100% to AMD without hesitation (well except that I have an expensive G-sync LCD). But they're still lacking on the GPU front. And as bad as Nvidia's drivers are, AMD's never were that great either, unless things have changed in the last couple of years.

 

I have not actually owned a desktop Intel cpu since the P4 days, so I have boycotted them in a sense. Of course my last AMD was a Phenom 2

 

Assuming they simply improve their existing ZM/DM-Cooling system a bit... Maybe offer only R5-CPUs to be sure that they can not be held responsible for overheating R7s, I'd still be in for tweaking the R7 inside it.
what I mean is: We have seen 5GHz 4790K/6700K/7700K in laptops. Couldn't be that hard to make it work with a 4GHz R7.
All they have to do is giving us the socket and a good cooling system.

 

We will anyway see 6 cores processors in laptops. Both BGA Trash and socket version!! We will see a step up in performance.

 

Ryzen 7 1700X vs i7 6800K Benchmarked In 13 Games http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700x-gaming-benchamrks/

 

Look at those performance/watt values! Awesome!

 

As always it's going to be up to the individual to be an informed buyer of technology.

We can't expect the vendor or retailer to direct the buyer away from Intel to AMD - in fact if history is any indicator Intel will be incentivising vendors and retailers to drop AMD and push Intel.

It is early too be deciding to go AMD only, AMD hasn't shipped their new CPU's, and early access review CPU's haven't been allowed to post broad performance results (March 2nd).

It's not too early to be thinking about recognizing that point where AMD has provided enough performance to forgo Intel, and then to replace Nvidia on the desktop.

Hopefully the AMD Mobile and AMD desktop for mobile components will deliver high performance too.

 

"1700X delivers more performance at 25-30% less power"
Yeah, and expect Intel will as well step up with later released chips. Yeees... Competition is good for us customers

 

Ryzen overclocking - http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-overclocking-xfr-live-demos-benchmarks/

We also get our first detailed look at the Ryzen Master overclocking utility. The Ryzen 7 1800X chip was overclocked to 4.1 GHz across all 8 cores in the Ryzen Master utility and tested in Cinebench R15. The test however didn’t end well and resulted in a system crash that led to a black screen.

 

" AMD Ryzen Master Overclocking Demoed – Ryzen 7 1800X Crashes While Overclocked
We also get our first detailed look at the Ryzen Master overclocking utility.

The Ryzen 7 1800X chip was overclocked to 4.1 GHz across all 8 cores in the Ryzen Master utility and tested in Cinebench R15. The test however didn’t end well and resulted in a system crash that led to a black screen."

Why not point out that the crash happened while on the road to tuning for a stable OC?

Of course crashes are gonna happen when pushing for the highest performance when tuning the OC - back off the OC settings a little and test again - until the OC is stable.

This is the kind of insensitive / clueless reporting that makes it tough to help people OC.

Newbies are all "afraid" of crashing, when it's really a natural occurrence on the road to finding the optimal OC tune.

 

I wish they would give some more detail. I was wondering if using that particular utility caused it. What settings caused it? What settings worked?

 

They could have just said they watched the automatic OC process in action.

The crash can happen in any process currently running, not "caused" by the software - it's a hardware OC setting too far.

A number of vendors have implemented this, OC a bit, do a test - no crash? - up the settings and test again - failure of a test or a crash - reduce settings and reboot.

It's a process, that will crash at the highest tested setting - to find the limits you will often crash - or not get a full range of tested values.

I've seen vendors automatic tuning back-off early so as to not cause the "distress" of a crash - then I gotta take over and continue the process manually.