How To Improve SSD performance on Intel Series 4, 5, 965 Chipsets (JJB Tweak)

I did both Stat and JJB tweaks and I got this:
Good, no good?

 

If it's the C300 in your sig, then I would say good!

Did you do a before though?

 

Not sure why, but your write speeds seem slower than mine with the same drive:

 

3@50MB/s vs. 5@50MB/s could be the reason.

Your 'score' got a chance to go higher (from 'clean nand') by having 2 extra chances to get it.

 

Re-ran at 3 and although my seq and 512k read speeds came down to 267 and 241 respectively, everything else stayed about the same.

 

This tweak can greatly benefit Intel and Sandforce drives but doesn't really do much for the Kingston V-Series with the 2nd-generation JMicron controller. There is some improvement, but it's nothing to write home about. I'll keep the tweak because it only increases my system temperature by 1-2 degrees tops.

 

Hey Peeps, ive got some questions involving my SSD (an intel x-25m 160gb)..
I applied all the tweaks from the OP, but after a week my results are seriously disappointing... Not that the numbers are a big deal to me, but getting stutters in gaming is. I'm playing Dirt2 at the moment, and at first it ran great, but now (and im still at maximum performance) its like my SSD gets delays.. One moment im driving at 100km/h and it looks like its 50km/h ( also 1 second ingame takes like 2 seconds in real time), and than the other moment its all going way to fast (that 1 second of gaming takes only .5 seconds in real life)... Im worried... Anyone got any idea ?

Here's just after I applied the tweaks ( first day I had the SSD):



And here's after a week:

 

Have you been running the intel SSD toolbox SSD optimizer to help it keep nice and healthy?

I highly doubt the stuttering in Dirt2 is caused by the SSD, what system are you running on, sounds like throttling...

 

Ill try the toolbox out, since ive never heard of it untill now ^^. Its not really stuttering, its more like slo-mo's and fast forwards..

ps: my system's in my sig

 

Dirt2 stuttering/rubber band effect seems to be more of a driver or Directx issue. Try this thread here. Your CPU may also be holding you back, but since I'm not familiar with the game, I couldn't really say.

 

hello guys, here my results

i used jjb tweaks choosing a 95% core increase treshold and my 4k results are better, so... THANK THANK YOU

ps

is there a way to get near 20 MB/s in 4k reads? just to know if i can improve

 

Are you on the latest IRST?

 

i think yes, it's 9.6.0.1014 irst, prefetch and superfetch disabled, AHCI enabled, index disabled, but i put the ssd in 2nd hdd bay because in 1st bay the hard drive is screwed very tight and i had fear to break something unscrewing them...should i put it in 1 bay at any cost?

 

Those aren't the latest drivers. Go to the download section of Intel's support site and get them from there. Swapping the position of the drives in your system won't make a difference.

 

D'oh, what figure... I checked on Dell driver download centre for my lap and they haven't the new serie 10.x..thank you sir

 

Here are my results This is 64bit crystal disk... intel x25-m 160g SSD.
Im doing 99%
the first one is my before, and then the 2nd one is after the tweaks.

 

i have tried the tweaks but they disable the Turbo feature on my CPU

 

Not with this tweak it shouldn't. Go into your BIOS and see if you have an option to enable or disable processor C-state. Make sure that's enabled. Disabling it has essentially the same effect as this particular tweak, but it can cause turbo to be disabled.

 

as soon as i restore default settings for the power plan the turbo feature is working again.


I have tried the tweak 4 times the results are weird. I`m running wPrime (thread count set to 1, and process cpu affinity set to 1 core)

• with tweaks max core freq. 2100 (as far as know the max freq. without turbo for my CPU is 1700)
• without tweaks max core freq. 2500

 

Try running Prime95 and monitor your CPU frequency with the Intel Turbo Boost Technology Monitor.

 

ok, i did that just now, here are the results:

with tweaks : Intel TBT Monitor fluctuate between 2,13 - 2,26
without tweaks : Intel TBT Monitor fluctuate between 2,40 - 2,53

the jump in performance is visible without stopping Prime95, as soon as i hit restore default values in high perf. power plan

see the attached images, i`m kind of disappointed on my SSD

 

That is very weird. I have the exact same CPU as you, albeit with a different SSD, and turbo works as it should with this tweak applied.

Did you make sure CPU C-states and all other power-saving features are enabled in your BIOS?

 

hi people,
I have seen improved performance of my ssd after applying the jjb tweak. The thing m concern with is whether its safe in longer term?(will it decrease my cpu life?) Or any downside for doing this tweak? Any faced problems After applying this tweak?
Btw I have applied it to my Asus g73jh..
Thank JJB !!!

 

Is it safe to assume that these tweaks will not be needed on Intel 6-Series chipsets?

 

Nothing is safe to assume.

If anything, we might have to find new tweaks for the new stuff.

 

I've been using those tweaks for months and never got any problem doing so so far. Downsides are a little more heat inside (very low) and shorter battery life if you apply the tweaks to the battery power mode, which you shouldn't anyways.

So basically, no downsides, only +++

 

THanks bro for sharing your experience.. I am satisfied now... although one more thing did u also apply steamix Tweak? and how was it? like any downside of that? and more heat on processor rite? anyways on what laptop did u apply this tweak. Thanks again..

 

Hey !

Check my sig to discover what laptop I use...

I tried both tweaks, and found that while Stamatisx's tweak delivers ± the same performance increase, it also generates a little more heat inside, so I chose to go with JJB's one.

As a matter of fact, Stamatisx's tweak is much easier to implement, but returns a little less improvement, while JJB's one is much more complicated, but delivers more precise settings to play with.

Besides, the specific setting called: Minimum processor state = 0% kills the CPU noise of my AW M17X-R2... ...which is essential for my brain to remain functional...

Hope this helps !

eYe

 

Tag, going to do this and see if it fixes my C300 scores on the G73.

Guess this is better than the Intelppm tweak with a cpu that uses turboboost.

 

I'd try the Intelppm tweak first, just to check if it works.

If it works it makes sense to look for a permanent solution.

 

I found a post from a fellow G73 owner in this thread.

He did all the tweaks. the ppm turns off turboboost so I will skip that one.

I did the 6 cpu power state tweaks and the core parking tweak also.

Do those tweaks stack ontop of the ppm tweak? or does the ppm kind of superseed them?

 

For me all I needed was the Intelppm tweak. That was on an Acer 1830T.

Doesn't really matter, it's just temporarily to check if your SSD performance is bottlenecked by your chipset.

The intelppm tweak takes one minute to test. If it works I would try the other tweaks. If it doesn't work you've saved yourself a lot of time.

Oh well, it looks like you have the same problem so the other tweaks will probably work.

 

Fresh install of Win 7

newest intel inf drivers from the intel site instead of the Asus site,
newest intel rapid matrix (not sure if I even need these I think its only for RAID)

Asus G73JH-A2
Crucial C300 128GB

Old Score
253.1 135.7
223.9 136.7
12.52 15.54
188.7 128.7

After fresh install, drivers, and the power & core park tweaks

263.3 139.0
248.8 140.3
19.78 29.05
181.3 129.0

Going to finish my windows updates, interested if seeing any change once I get SP1 installed.

After that will try the ppm tweak.

After SP1 Update

Same as before (was just hoping it maybe did something)

After ppm tweak

271.6 138.9
256.5 141.8
23.62 39.30
181.3 129.3

checking to see if turbo boost is gone now, report back in a min.

Yep turboboost is gone. Cpu metere says stuck @ 1.6ghz cpu-z says stuck @ 1.728ghz so not sure what is true but the multi is locked and not changing no matter how many threads I run on wprime.

Also here is my Intel 160GB G2 I got off ebay, just got done doing a fresh install on my desktop using Asus P5Q Deluxe (P45)

264.2 106.3
202.6 110.0
23.49 64.04
161.6 96.56

Those look in line for Intel G2 stats?

 

There is a new INF Update utility on the Intel site:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Sea...ProductProduct=Mobile+Intel®+5+Series+Chipset

It might address the sluggish performance on SSD Read/write speeds, I'll test it as soon as I can on my G73JH (HM55 chipset) + Intel X25-M G2 80Gb SSD.

Edit: My system shows no changes for the SSD performance after the updated infs.

Thanks!

 

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CrystalDiskMark 3.0.1 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

Sequential Read : 268.900 MB/s
Sequential Write : 204.500 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 236.456 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 207.639 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 29.011 MB/s [ 7082.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 64.260 MB/s [ 15688.4 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 203.406 MB/s [ 49659.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 184.010 MB/s [ 44924.4 IOPS]

Test : 1000 MB [C: 40.1% (95.6/238.4 GB)] (x5)
Date : 2011/04/15 21:22:36
OS : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition SP1 [6.1 Build 7601] (x64)


Thats with i580 clean install 6gb ram 256gb SDD from HP and the tweak you guys figured out.

Is this good?

 

It is pretty good, very decent indeed.

To keep it that way, I suggest you avoid to fill it more than 3/4 of it's capacity, try to not fill it over 180GB, and you should remain happy.

Also, when you Crystal-test, you might wanna go only 2 iterations instead of 5, and work with 50MB or 100MB instead of 1000MB, to avoid wear.

Cheers !

 

Those numbers look very good. What drive does HP use now? Is it maybe a Crucial C300?

 

As far as I know, HP, Dell, Apple, Lenovo and so all use Samsung's SSDs as OEM/ODM.

But I might be mistaken...

 

Yes I know about Samsung, but even the Samsung 470 doesn't get 29MB/sec 4K random read. And the 470 gets higher sequential writes.

 

But it's a fresh install, brand new drive I guess, with tweaks, so numbers are usualy at their very best... On top, his 4K's random reads might be better because of the chipset, ie: not an Intel HM/PM55...

What's the best you've seen for 4K random reads/writes for Samsung's 470 series ?

 

Yea I noticed it did a 5 iterations 1gb test after I ran the test haha. I changed it to 2 and 100mb. Its a crucial MTFDBAK256MAG-1G1 drive. As far as I can tell its in the same family as the C300. However its not the 6gb/s drive though I don't know if that would matter because I don't think my envy 14 supports 6gb/s transfers. I don't think they make it anymore or its just an OEM style drive because its difficult to find any information on it.

 

I haven't seen any Samsung 470 come above 20MB 4K random read in CDM. That includes desktops. Also Samsung 470 has seq. write of >250 MB/sec.

Very interesting, a C300 SATA II version... http://cgi.ebay.com/Micron-256GB-SSD-C300-SATA-3Gb-s-HP-628497-001-OEM-/150581113102

 

One things been bothering me though. When I got the laptop I immediately did a clean install. I reformatted the drive with windows 7 and did a clean install. I was wondering if there's a way to do a secure erase or HDDerase so the drive would be at factory state before I do a clean install. Or does is not even matter because TRIM is supported on this drive.

Yea that drive you linked is exactly what I have.

 

I wouldn't bother with a secure erase. Your drive looks like it's in excellent condition (performance). A secure erase only causes unnecessary wear.

If you do want to do a SE it usually involves hot plugging the SSD.

 

Ohhh so I would need to put it in a external sata enclosure to wipe the drive. Thats why I couldn't get it to work before. Yea I guess I won't bother with it now. The OCD in me is the one wanting to wipe the drive haha.

What are the lifespans for these types of drives? I don't move large files around a lot or do editing/encoding. Basically work processing, internet, movies, occasional games...

Oh yea thanks for the help guys!

 

As far as I know, when you quick format your drive (upon windows's intall), it resets the nand cells, at least, it does on my Intel, not sure for yours, but if so, then, no need to Secure Erase...

Your drive should last at least 5 and more likely 10 years before you can't write to it anymore; so, you have a large windows to play with !

 

Awesome! Basically my computer is going to become obsolete before ssd dies. That's good to hear.

I wish there was some kind of uniform standard for all ssd's so you can use the same tools and tweaks across the board.

 

SSDs are still quite new, and manufacturers build them differently (number of channels, DRAM cache or not, and so on); thus no industry-across standards to rely on.

However, true that your computer should get obsolete before your SSD, which is great because you can then either sell it or use it in your new rig when you'll change it !

 

Mushkin Callisto Deluxe 240Gb Firmware 3.6.0

Before tweaks:


After tweaks:


I'm happy!

 

Excellent !