Intel Core i7-8750H/ i7-8850H/ i9-8950H Coffee Lake

I like the GT75 very much! I'm so use to gaming at 4K in everything so smoothly with G-sync. I don't think I could go back to 1080P though...

It seems like every single 8950HK device is 1080P, with a GTX1080 lol.

I ran a GTX1080 on 1080P for 10 months straight. It was OVERKILL!

My GTX1070 runs 4K pretty good without AA, sometimes minor settings tweaked here and there. I know a GTX1080 would just do wonders better than my laptop. But shouldn't they be using a 1440P minimum on a 6 core laptop with a GTX1080?

Where are the IPS 1440P displays at? Or maybe even one of those 2880x1620 IPS panels.

 

Never mind what my last post said!

Looks like we can get a 8950HK in the GT75 with the 4K screen. it is $4499

Anyone know why the slower 8850H is deployed on the SLI GT83?

 

Cooling issues, I believe.

 

Aero 15X - An AWESOME Gaming Laptop For Creators

Published on Apr 7, 2018
My review of the Gigabyte Aero 15X gaming/workstation laptop with the new generation of 6 core CPUs. This is the best gaming laptop from Gigabyte for creatives!
Available Here - https://amzn.to/2GJJpL5

The updated Aero 15X in 2018 is a great addition to Gigabyte’s lineup. With an all new 8th gen Intel 6-core CPU - the i7-8750H with a 144Hz screen, NVIDIA GTX 1070 Max-Q graphics and a great battery. This is a strong alternative option to the MacBook Pro, Dell XPS 1570 and MSI GS65

 

Very nice video! It was great in 4K! Yea I guess G-Sync is not really needed. Since it really only helps like you said at lower frames, well your not even there with a GTX1070 @ 1080P. So no worries there.

 

The MSI GE Raider, GT75 Titan + GS65 Stealth Thin Presentation

Published on Apr 9, 2018
Introducing the new MSI GE Raider, GT75 Titan and GS65 Stealth Thin gaming laptops is Pia Huang, MSI Malaysia Notebook Channel Marketing Manager.
Read more: https://www.techarp.com/events/ge-raider-gt75-titan-gs65-stealth/

 

MSI GS65 sample unit review - 90*C on CPU and 80-85*C on GPU (PUBG).

 

Undervolting the CPU should drop the load temp 10c, which put's it in the safe zone, in the low-mid-80's

With the darned high FPS screens, you can't rely on the tried and true 60 FPS RTSS setting to reduce the thermals, running flat out these laptops always get hot - but shouldn't thermal throttle.

With the new 6c/12t CPU's we don't know what the lowest undervolt is for stock speeds, hopefully it's still in the -100mV range.

 

In my experience re-pasting a laptop has a far higher impact on temperatures than undervolting, unless the CPU is running at crazy high voltages out of the box (like 1.2V @ 3.4GHz for a i7 7700HQ), or you win the silicon lottery and get a chip than can do 3.4GHz at under 900 mV (again with a i7 7700HQ in mind). I wonder if they put the motherboard upside down like on the GS63; if they did it would make re-pasting even harder.

How much would the temps go down by if you repasted with liquid metal?

 

Benchmarks on the cheaper i5 8300H - it out performs the i7 7700HQ!

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/19374-intel-core-i5-8300h-benchmarks/

 

Newegg Insider: GIGABYTE’s Aero 15X Laptop brings the 8th Gen 1070 Goodness

Published on Apr 10, 2018
GIGABYTE is breaking into 8th Gen gaming laptops in a big way, with their i7 8750H, Max Q cooled GTX 1070 Aero 15X ( https://goo.gl/abhJLV). This upgraded Aero is packing a new high refresh rate display, an aluminum chassis, and a full selection of I/O options. Take a look!

 

Unfounded unsupported alarmist offtopic rubbish.

You don't want to use it, fine, but don't go all #fakenews trying to stop others.

 

in our world today, you are telling me people blame themselves for making poor decisions? i highly doubt it, people do the opposite, blame everything but themselves. your statement has no credit sir.

 

Not all manufacturers (all types products) are good at posting safetydata sheet info on their website or the product package. And I mean it's not very good for the health eating any of the thermal paste out there. Would you rub your fingers in your eyes after spilled/having thermal paste on your fingers? People ain't stupid.
http://www.coollaboratory.com/pdf/safetydatasheet_liquid_ultra_englisch.pdf

 

I was being sarcastic at the fearmongering.

Enviado de meu Pixel 2 usando Tapatalk

 

A New Chapter in Gaming - ASUS TUF Gaming FX504 | ASUS

Published on Apr 10, 2018
Infused with the spirit of The Ultimate Force (TUF) and designed to strike fear into the heart of the enemy, the durable and lightweight FX504 is the first laptop in the TUF Gaming family.

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A powerful, portable, and enduring all-rounder, FX504 is able to play the latest games and multitask with ease, while at the same time providing unmatched toughness and durability to give you immersive gaming experiences for years to come. The patented Anti-Dust Cooling system provides the necessary cooling for graphically-intense gaming sessions, and prolongs the lifespan of the machine by expelling harmful dust particles and dirt. Whether you’re using FX504 for extended gaming or long typing sessions at work — it’ll take it in stride thanks to a 20 million key press lifespan, which doubles the industry standard of 10 million key presses. FX504 is designed to impress — choose from four different designs to match your personality and style. FX504 is tough beyond standard and has everything you need for work or play.

For information, check here: https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504/

https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504/specifications/

Intel® Core™ i7 8750HQ Processor,
Intel® Core™ i5 8300HQ Processor

Intel® HM370 Express Chipsets

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 , with 2GB/4GB GDDR5 VRAM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050TI , with 2GB/4GB GDDR5 VRAM

 

5GHz Core i9 OC on a Laptop! - MSI GT75 Titan
Published on Apr 11, 2018


He didn't undervolt, and probably didn't test while OC'd, at least he didn't say he undervolted and the tests were presented while at stock before he OC'd. We need to wait for another review from someone with some more undervolt, tuning, and testing savvy, although he did a fine job.

MSI GT75 Titan 8RG (Core i9) Gaming Laptop Preview
Published on Apr 11, 2018
The MSI GT75 Titan is the first gaming laptop to ever feature Intel Core i9 processors. https://www.techarp.com/reviews/msi-gt75-titan-8rg-preview/


MSI GS65 Stealth Thin Gaming Laptop Preview
Published on Apr 12, 2018
The MSI GS65 Stealth Thin is the first gaming laptop to feature a 144 Hz 7 ms IPS display with 8+ hours battery life! Read more @ https://www.techarp.com/reviews/msi-gs65-stealth-thin-preview/

 

Stock [email protected] run +1450cb. And look at the single core score. @Mr. Fox @ole!!!

170/1263cb/


171/1263cb

 

Intel Core B processors? B for BGA? but 65W.
Desktops are getting the BGA treatment, since they are miniaturizing as well with the All in One's and console like designs.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12632/intel-core-b-processors-8th-gen-bga-with-65w-tdp

 

Intel "announced" BGA Desktops many years before, when Intel was going to float this idea of BGA motherboards. IDK if it will come to be any more than the last time... it didn't then either. No one bought into it then. That could change, but I doubt it. These might be nice for a beefy laptop like a GT75 GT63 or GT85 when it comes out, 65w TDP might be just enough to fuel 8c/16t...

Comments

CajunArson - Thursday, April 12, 2018
"You have to admit.
It takes a whole lotta balls to release a BGA processor."

Valantar - Thursday, April 12, 2018
"1440 to be exact. At least for this series."

Would you like to start a new thread on these new CPU's? They don't fit here in this thread; they are off topic different CPU models for desktop. I've asked the mods to move the BGA Desktop Posts to a new thread in the Desktop Forum.

 

Why move the BGA Desktop posts? Those bring up a light regarding the new Intel BGA chips for laptops. Please r ead in the link from Anandtech.com..... Intel Core-B Processors: 8th Gen BGA with 65W TDP


Let them stand as it is.

Of course can new threads be created as well.

 

Another skanky jerk move by Wintel to capitalize on consumer ignorance. Even the wimpy little Alienware Alpha console replacement had a socket mounted CPU.

 

Live - Newegg Now Episode 21: MSI Laptops, PC Build Kits, and Big Ideas in Tech
They are in the middle of the MSI laptops presentation now, scroll back a bit to the beginning of that segment, about -21:30 right now, when the Live Stream is done I'll post the start and end times for the 8th gen Intel CPU laptop section.

Started streaming 37 minutes ago
See all limited-time Newegg Now deals ► http://ow.ly/kGiP30jrN6U
This week on Newegg Now, our hosts will dive into Newegg’s PC Build Kit, which gives you everything you need to build a gaming PC. Then MSI will stop by to talk about their new GS65 Stealth Thin gaming laptop. Trisha and JC will also be talking about some of the exciting frontiers in tech and hardware, and of course they’ll share great deals all episode long.

 

Pax East - MSI GS65 Stealth - Asus Zephyrus M - Legion Y720/Y920 laptops !
Published on Apr 12, 2018
Pax East 2018 - final coverage video.
Talk to MSI about the new MSI GS65 stealth , i 8750h, GTX 1070 and a 144 Hz IPS 1080p display.
Quick look at the Asus Zephyrus M with i7 8750h six core CPU
Talk with iBuyPower about their desktops
Talk with Lenovo Legion about their gaming laptops Y720 and Y920.

New Six Core Dell G3, G5, G7 and Alienware 15 & 17 at Pax East !
Published on Apr 9, 2018
Visiting the Dell gaming and Alienware booth at Pax East 2018 we look at their new G Series which has the G3, G5 (up to i7 8750h six core CPU) and G7 (up to i9 8950hk six core CPU). Graphics upto a GTX 1060 max-Q.
Also a quick look at the New Alienware 15 and 17 with i7 8750h/i9 8950hk processors and their new Cryo-Tech V2 cooling and Vapour Chamber heat pipes for the CPU.
Also a quick look at the new Alienware Command Center.

Pax East 2018 - Aorus: 15x notebook, H370 Mobo & Keyboards K7 and K9 Optical
Published on Apr 9, 2018
At Pax East 2018 I visit the Aorus booth where they show me the new coffee lake H 15x gaming notebook, the New H370 motherboard and gaming keyboards the K7 and the K9 optical which uses optical switches !

 

I think it is on-topic and should stay as well. No need for a new thread or moving posts that are not pro-BGA regardless of what kind of motherboard the CPU gets permanently welded to. It's a crap solution no matter what platform it curses.

 

I'm sure bro @Falkentyne love what's written in the bold text from the mentioned Anandtech.com link about BGA processors above

"This ultimately made sense – the system design, with a big GPU inside, is limited by the ability to remove heat. The system was also designed by MSI’s laptop team, so they do know a thing or two about adjusting TDP limits using the BIOS. However, we were now in a situation where the Core i7-8700 in the MSI Vortex would perform significantly worse (up to 33%) on certain workloads due to the TDP limitation compared to a thermally unrestricted Core i7-8700 in a desktop allowed to implement the standard turbo profile."

I have stated from the beginning that the OEM's will gear up Crippling of Performance with their own firmware/software. The awful 1263cb scores in Cinebench R15 show that very clearly!! And not forget that amazing 170/171cb scores in Single Core Cinebench load.

 

If Intel decides to go w/ BGA desktop then I feel everybody will move towards AMD since you need to buy a board once and then upgrade the cpu. With Intel new chip=new boards.

 

I seriously doubt they will do it across the board. Just on the throw-away "sucker systems" purchased by ordinary consumers, and sold by the likes Dell/HP/Lenovo/Acer. But, it opens the door to nonsense that nobody with a smidgen of technical knowledge will put up with. I think they're smart enough to know they would lose a significant source of revenue. So would their partners that manufacturer gamer and enthusiast motherboards. None of us would be willing to spend money on trash like that. But, who knows... they obviously don't give a rat's ass about notebook owners with higher standards and greater expectations. Only time will tell.

 

I fix it for you... Intel will continue as usual with LGA for proper and correct performance. Their BGA processors is intended for use in computers/notebooks with a lower z-height. You can't get it both... High performance and thin and flimsy!!

 

>thin
>performance


nͫiͤcͫeͤ

 

No words. Just none...

 

There is the famous TVB( Thermal Velocity Boost)...

@Falkentyne @Mr. Fox @Papusan

 

ewwww

 

Yeah, there is it Intel finally find a way to differentiate prices for locked vs. the unlocked BGA. Put in a useless <feature like ( Thermal Velocity Boost)> and charge $200 usd more vs. what they did for the predecessors. It won't stop there... The prices will two or triple the value once it reach out to the customers.

 

Keep a close eye after each BIOS update, first version will have zero limits and after few updates there'll be more limits.
I feel Intel copy and pasted @Mr. Fox and @Papusan CPU clocks for 24/7 w/o testing.

 

MSI Upgrades Budget Laptops with Intel’s CFL-H: Six-Core Notebooks Start at $1,099
by Anton Shilov on April 14, 2018 9:00 AM EST
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1265...h-intels-cflh-sixcore-notebooks-start-at-1099

MSI GT63/GT83 Titans Upgraded with Six-Core CPUs, Samsung’s PCIe SSDs
by Anton Shilov on April 13, 2018 3:00 PM EST
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1264...upgraded-with-sixcore-cpus-samsungs-pcie-ssds

 

Asus GM501 Zephyrus M - Cheaper AND Better!

Published on Apr 14, 2018
My review of the Asus Zephyrus M - GM501. The best gaming laptop from Asus for thin and light performance at a cheaper price.
A powerful laptop i7-8750H with a GTX 1070 on a 144 Hz 3ms screen. This laptop has incredibly strong performance in a thin and light package. It now has a greatly improved keyboard and touchpad from the previous generation.

These New Gaming Laptops are 50% Faster!
Published on Apr 3, 2018
Coffee Lake H gaming laptops are here!!! These 6-core laptops are the best gaming laptops yet. The hexa-core Aero 15X, MSI GS65 and the GM501 reviews will be coming soon. Stay tuned!
Note: The 7700HQ is 4core/8thread (not 6/12 like i flubbed in the chart)

 

Socketed CPU's only fit in chunkers.

While Asus 703 and MSI GT75/63/83VR can and should easily fit a desktop cpu...( With no real excuse to ship with BGA)...literally every other laptop ( real laptops not chunkers)..Aorus X9 for example...cannot fit a socketed CPU so why even talk about it.

 

clevo w650

or clevo n950 are not so chunkers

and both have a desktop cpu

 

It should be talked about more than it has been. The reason it is not is because the bar has been lowered and many are content with something less. "Real" computers (laptops included) are "chunkers" and the other things out there are compromised devices posing as a computer. Like a glorified smartphone or tablet.

 

3rd

Let's see how the Aorus 8950hk fares over the next few months in testing and benchmarks. Half the size of a Titan but just how much of a performance loss compared to 8700k?

 

PLAY SHARP : GS65 Stealth Thin | MSI
Published on Apr 15, 2018
Get ready to play sharp with GS65 Stealth Thin now!
https://us.msi.com/Landing/GS65_Stealth_Thin_8RX
GS65 Stealth Thin, the world’s first gaming laptop to feature 144 Hz display with 4.9mm thin bezel design, shaped the look with golden diamond-cutting trim and evolve details to gilt, provides the uncompromised gaming enjoyment to all gaming/ lifestyle perfectionist.

 

Where is the adverticed 5.0GHz Overclock from Dell? The i9-8950Hk in the new refreshed Alienware Coffee models can't even run stock 4.3GHz clocks. Would be nice if some asked Dell on how the buyers should be able to run the chips the adverticed 5.0GHz as showed in their sales website.

 

It's that dirty pair of weasel words that gives away peak marketing: "up to".

80C under a 100W load is not bad... but it's still not reaching the supposed 4.3ghz all core turbo on the mobile i9, and it's getting nearly double its stock 56W turbo power.

 

Put some Gpu heat on that Unified TRIPOD heatsink from either the Stress Gpu tests in Aida64 or add Heaven to the Cpu load and I’m sure it will be hot. Very hot and clocks will come nearer base clocks which is 2.9GHz on this i9 BGA chips.

 

i9-8950HK Cinebench R15 results by notebookcheck (Aorus X9 DT):

 

Now we wait for owners to get one, undervolt it, and get rid of C&C and replace it with XTU / TS to get some real OC'ing done.

It would have been nice if NBC would have run the benchmarks without C&C OC, so as to allow the built-in single core 4.8ghz mode to kick in; once OC'd it's disabled.

 

Exactly! Except I remember there's some fiddling to do in the Aorus command control files in order to keep c&c but not use the overclock profiles.
Need the c&c for custom fan profiles. It's been awhile since the X5 V6, I'll have to figure that one out.

Once my preorder ships I'll jump on that!

 

Where can I see the <feature ( Thermal Velocity Boost)> in use that Intel charge +-$200 more for? Single core run 4.3GHz and not the adverticed 4.8GHz in Intel's spec sheets. Single Core Cinebench R15 tests show same score as oc'd 7820HK (185cb). Not the 211cb as expected.


processor
As mentioned previously, the processor can be overclocked in the Command & Control tool as needed. However, one should put the word overclock rather in quotes, because in the case of the test device, the highest OC mode only ensured that the Core i9-8950HK keeps its multi-core turbo of 4.3 GHz consistently at the maximum (4,0GHz @normal, 4.1GHz @ OC1, 4.2GHz @ OC2).

 

Hand me an i9 based laptop , I'll hit 5.0Ghz