Intel Core i7-8750H/ i7-8850H/ i9-8950H Coffee Lake

Thanks for that. Do you think it could hit 4.5ghz all cores with Conductonaut and an undervolt?


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I stick with stock pastes on this one. Very expensive laptop and I'm not a real bencher anyway.

I'll try 4.5ghz+ later today.

 

If I do get it, I'll get it from HIDevolution and have them repaste it with Conductonaut. They are pros at it and I trust they won't make a mistake.


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I let the stress test run for about 20 minutes..these are the results with undervolt of -140mv. I'll have to run the machine for a few days to make sure the high single core clock speed is happy with that voltage and doesnt bsod.


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Wow! Awesome. If it can hit 4.5ghz without a repaste and stay under 90C, it really can handle the i9. Good, since it is much more portable than the (admittedly cooler at similar clocks) MSI GT75. Congrats @knibbler


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That's great results, and more like what I expected for the next turn of 14nm process, more undervolt at OC.

I can only do -15mV @ 4.5ghz all core on a 7820HK GT75, so the 8950HK is running 6c/12t at a better undervolt at about the same temperature @ 100% load.

Amazing.

We need some GT75 8950HK undervolt results instead of that BIOS voltage hack, given there is more head room for undervolt at OC for the 8950HK undervolt might provide better results.

Thank you for sharing your results.

 

The super-thin Asus Zenbook Pro 15 is getting an Intel Core i9 option

"The Zenbook Pro 15 is notable for being a very thin 15-inch Ultrabook akin to the Dell XPS 15 or MacBook Pro 15. Thus, it's a bit surprising to find Asus listing the system with an optional unlocked hexa-core Core i9-8950HK CPU as part of its Coffee Lake-H refresh."

A bit surprising? Nope!!

 

JHC man. Now they're putting these essentially bare die 8700Ks in Ultrabooks?! This won't end well. Someone post that burnt laptop/laptop on fire meme.

 

Given that they have cTDPdown option, they could have cTDPup that would allow vendors to offer higher than 45Watts TDP cpu's, even 5-10 more Watts would be great, or not, depending on how good/bad the binnings are, and how good or bad the cooling is.

 

MSI GS65 8RF Stealth Thin (i7-8750H - GTX 1070 Max-Q) laptop
6core i7-8750H is meant to run 3.9 GHz when all 6 cores are busy. But as expected, the same useless Cpu behaviour as Intel's latest Low powered 8th gen U processors. Unable to run the way it should in prolonged processor workload. Aka normal use for many.

 

Dell G7 Review
Dave Lee
Published on May 9, 2018

Dave2D review of the Dell G7 7588 gaming laptop in Alpine White. Combining the i7-8750H with a GTX 1050 / GTX 1050 Ti / GTX 1060 Max-Q.
The new G7 is a stunning laptop that has excellent build quality and internal accessibility for an inexpensive gaming laptop. The white and blue colors looks AWESOME. It's this satin finish with metallic blue accents. Thermal performance is also strong. Good temps and quiet fans on load.

Dell G7 - Six Cores, GTX 1060 -Max Q. Best Value Gaming Notebook?
exklim Tech News
Published on May 7, 2018

The Dell G Series is the update to their Inspiron Gaming Series.
They sell the G3, G5 and G7 and update the CPU's to the 8th gen and in particular on most models the six core i7 8750h.
They are also configurable up to a GTX 1060 Max-Q.
My model has 8 GB RAM, a 256 GB SSD and a 60 Hz 1080p IPS display.
This year you can get the Alpine White model which is the one I review here.
I test it against the Alienware 13 R3, Dell Inspiron 7567 and Aorus x3 v7.

 

Test MSI GT75 8RG Titanium (i9-8950HK - GTX 1080) laptop-Notebookcheck.com

99°C degrees celsius and 3.7GHz.

 

After running AIDA64 stress test, several gaming benchmarks, and an hour and a half of intense gaming with all Ultimate settings, with -80 mV, the BIOS mod that @Falkentyne and @Phoenix developed, the Bottom Ventilation Mod from the brain of @Mr. Fox , and Grizzly Conductonaut + Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads we are getting the maximum spikes of:

GPU = 70-76C
CPU = 76-79C

There is a range because these are the results of testing on several different units.

We are also working with MSI to make the simple modifications to the BIOS that @Falkentyne and @Phoenix developed. However, be patient. "Micro-Star International Co., Ltd (MSI) was established in August 1986 by 5 founders, one of the world's largest information technology manufacturers." (er, can you say 'bureaucracy'?)

 

Those are excellent temps and results.

 

MSI GE63 Review | 6 Core Gaming Laptop
TechteamGB
Published on May 14, 2018
The first 6 Core gaming laptop has made it's way to my desk for a review - so here it is, the MSI GE63 8RE, a 6 core 12 thread gaming laptop. Is it worth your money though? Let's see.

 

Undervolting the Gigabyte Aero 15x - Performance Improvement?
Jarrod'sTech
Published on May 10, 2018
The Gigabyte Aero 15x is an excellent laptop overall, however in my benchmarking I did notice some thermal throttling with a combined CPU and GPU load such as while gaming. I’m going to attempt to improve the laptop performance by undervolting the Intel i7-8750H CPU to try and get the CPU cores running at full speed while gaming, and lower the temperatures to something cooler.


Aorus 5X v8 Gaming Benchmarks - 15 Games Tested! (Before Undervolt or OC)
Jarrod'sTech
Published on May 17, 2018
The new Gigabyte Aorus 5X v8 gaming laptop has Intel’s latest 8th gen i7-8850H hexa core CPU and Nvidia 1070 graphics, but how well does it perform in different games? In these gaming benchmarks you’ll get an idea of the performance levels to expect with the laptop to help you decide if it’s worth buying.

Spoiler: Details...

I’m still working on the full review of the Aorus 5X, don’t forget to subscribe for that one!

I've tested the following 15 games at all setting levels:
Overwatch
Fortnite
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive (CS:GO)
Dota 2
PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG)
Shadow of War
Battlefield 1
The Witcher 3
Watch Dogs 2
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Siege
Far Cry 5
DOOM
Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation

 

since notebookcheck test the unit stock im not surprised. every unit they test including clevo will run hot and overheat. with proper adjustment and tweaks it should be just as good as a clevo in terms of cooling, if not better, because MSI put more money into heatsink. (this is talking about decent overclocking, not extreme overclocking in the 4.8ghz+ area, where desktop chip will dominate)

 

I have still not seen MSI cool down +140/150w cpu load.

MSI GE73 8RF Raider RGB in the test: Coffee Lake H meets RGB

50% more cores vs. 7700Hq doesn't show up in Cinebench R15


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The Core i7-8750H in the MSI GS65 is slightly slower than in the Asus Zephyrus M GM501

The Core i7-8750H in the MSI GS65 is slightly slower than in the Asus Zephyrus M GM501 (Image source: MSI)
Throttling behavior has improved over the MSI GS63, but that is only because initial clock rates are lower than what the Core i7-8750H CPU is capable of when compared to the same CPU in the latest Zephyrus or Aero. Multi-thread performance is around 5 to 10 percent slower on the MSI as a result. Fortunately, the differences are minuscule for gaming purposes.

Todays Mobile Cpu behaviour...

 

Lovely. Almost 100C on Cpu and 91C on ssd in gaming. This stock. She even warned against buying AW with unlocked 8950Hk. But I'm sure it will run hot with whatever cpu they put in.


Brand new and the ssd's drive remaining lifespan already down


Most likely fully throttling. The Cinebench R15 score doesn't fits stock clocks. Or stock Power limits needed due too high temps.




I wonder what Vapor Chamber solution Dell's engineeers went for the Cpu... https://www.dell.com/learn/si/en/si...alienware-revitalize-portfolio-of-performance

 

Wait a minute, bro.
Chopping off half of the GPU VRM Radiator, extending the middle CPU heatpipe past the first radiator slot to the second one, and attaching that "half" of the GPU radiator to that extended CPU heatpipe, using the exact same radiator overall real estate as before, leaving the GPU VRM with only the bottom half of that radiator that used to go on both sides of the GPU heatpipe, and REMOVING ONE OF THE TWO GPU VRM HEATPIPES now going to a half sized radiator, is putting in money? UM..............

That's like me taking a full pizza, chopping it in half with a knife, giving you half, giving me half, and putting the halves on plates instead of eating out the box, is "putting in money."

@Papusan

 

they made new heatsink, which requires money to redesign and possibly the mold for it also requires money. they might save money from other places however ultimately when talking about heatsink ONLY, it is better for the CPU. GPU wise that capacity is so large cutting a small sector off for CPU wont hurt much at all, on the other hand benefit CPU side greatly, its like a 25% extra capacity on cpu side, just what they needed for 2 more cores.

nevertheless, mobile BGA stuck with 6 cores, 8 cores ES already being tested, just wondering how long till we get them in 8790K or 9700k and drop them into ma clevo.

MSI can with redesigned cpu heatsink and its overall cooling system. if you look at their GT83VR, their CPU heatsink definitely capable of cooling at least 120+, lots of copper and capacity but design itself is flawed.

tbh MSI should probably be ahead of clevo in terms of general cooling, bigger heatsink but worse hardware. most of the comparison made here are tweaked Clevo with binned hardware vs less tweaked MSI with less binned hardware, hardly a fair comparison.

iirc @Donald@HIDevolution stated with proper tweak and LM, their GPU/CPU range from 76-80C that actually sounds right. just like a tweaked clevo with proper paste job it'll do wonders.

 

An 8 core i7 9700K (or whatever they get round to calling it) will be fabbed on the same process as Coffee Lake (14nm++). In order to cram in those two extra cores, they'll need to increase the TDP from the 95 W of a i7 8700K to 127 W (8/6 * 95). When overclocking the CPU would easily output over 140 W of heat! Could a P870 cool something that hot?

 

It’s base clock frequency which determine TDP. And even with ++14Nm Intel can still optimize this process. From what I have read.... 95W will still be TDP for the new 8 cores. If info is correct.

FYI. Clevo have added the 4th fan header on MB for P870. Current models, not in use.

 

Ole, it is NOT a new heatsink at all.
It's the EXACT SAME HEATSINK used ever since the GT72S and GT72VR. The primary block is the same.
The only difference is another bit of padding (how much cents does this cost?) by the first radiator and an EXTENDED CPU heatpipe going to a CUT OFF GPU RADIATOR.
That's not a new heatsink, man.

That's called CHAINSAW SCIENCE.
@Papusan back me up here man.

GT73VR/GT75VR GPU VRM heatsink cooled by CPU fan



GT73VR and GT75VR (GT75VR Does not have black paint) CPU heatsink-front view:


GT73VR/GT75VR plate view






GT75 Titan CPU+GPU chainsaw heatsink.
Oh, please.

 

Or call it the cheapo mans work!!

Edit. You forgot the extended 3rd heatpipe. This is not called cut off. More like cutting-edge design as Azor prefer to say.

Yeah, pretty normal with lower temp with lower load. Watt = Heat.

 

Even if the CPU were radiator saturated and a 2nd half radiator actually improves temps (you would need the SAME EXACT CPU CONFIGURATION TO TEST THIS FIRST as a CONTROL --read your high school science books please)-e.g. 7820HK + original GT73 heatsink (CPU+GPU VRM) tested vs 7820HK + new GT75 CPU+GPU VRM heatsink mod, OR, 8950HK + GT73 original heatsink (CPU+GPU VRM) tested vs 8950HK + new GT75 CPU+GPU VRM heatsink mod,

Even if CPU is improved, not a good idea to remove cooling from GPU VRM's (Papusan was right here), EVEN MORE SO SINCE THE CPU FAN IS WHAT COOLS THE GPU VRMS TO BEGIN WITH !!

If GPU VRMs were cooled by GPU fan, then you can argue "possibilities" like GPU VRM cooling being 'overdone'.

Would you want to mod a GTX 1070 to 230W TDP with this reduced GPU VRM cooling and 1 less heatpipe? (half size radiator and 1 heatpipe removed?)
would you?

 

the last picture show it is new heatsink lol, they change it a bit to benefit more on the CPU.

yep i doubt they'll change TDP. more reason to throttle it which is intel's ultimate goal. lowering CPU frequency so they can sell +100mhz for $100 for future cpu.

 

@ole!!! said: "iirc @Donald@HIDevolution stated with proper tweak and LM, their GPU/CPU range from 76-80C that actually sounds right. just like a tweaked clevo with proper paste job it'll do wonders."

No, that is with a full load, after AIDA64 stress test, several benchmarks and at least 1.5 hours of intense gaming at Ultimate settings...these are the highest temperature spikes we recorded.

 

My bad. Meant lower temp with lower watt.
How high temp will reach depends on how you run Aida64 and with what clock speed. Put it this way... Clock it up, run Aida64 (Stress FPU + Gpu box checked). Or better say clock it so it run +140w Cpu Package power. Not sure how high clocks is needed for the goal. Watt is still Heat More watt = More heat. Temps will follow.

 

missed this one, was meant for me? GPU VRM cooling with 1 less pipe doesn't look like a real problem to me tbh. VRM can go upwards 100-105C, 80-85C VRM seems cool actually and 1 pipe to transfer heat is more than enough. GPU chip itself still has same amount of capacity, only concern would be the VRAM cooling if thats reduced than its not as good.

onto the CPU side, heat pipe draws away heat the fastest so you dont have to wait for first radiator to saturate before 2nd half, though yes first set of CPU radiator will heat up faster than 2nd set but it's still fine with that design. the WORST TYPE of cooling which is what you mentioned, first set radiator saturates then 2nd set is put to use, that is the exact scenario of GT83VR CPU heatsink, a retarded design, stacking heat pipes.

 

VRM *AND* VRAMs are cooled by the exact same heat block. Same one. Goes towards the "full" radiator on the Gt73VR / GT75VR with 2 heatpipes, and the half radiator on GT75, with 1 heatpipe.

and on GT73VR/GT75VR, the CPU does NOT have two radiators! Just one and one only. The CPU FAN cools both radiators on that side; but note: the 2nd radiator is exclusively used by the GPU VRAM/VRM's, with no connection to the CPU. However GPU heating up on automatic fans (VRM/VRAMs) somehow causes the CPU to run hotter while very light load, almost close to the GPU's temperature. I'm guessing heat from the VRM radiator and the fan motion interferes with saturation and transfer from the first. But i'm a gamer, not a thermal specialist

 

that'll be dependent on the EC, if MSI engineers has data and think its enough to cool it probably is, a bigger issue will be what you stated earlier, that its cooled by CPU fan, not so much on the heatpipe/capacity itself. they can reduce capacity as long as its not over doing it, and have the CPU fan at some constant speed then theres no problem at all.

also, maybe my ideas and definitions are different from yours. i call 1 set of radiator is of itself connect to heat pipes, but not connected to the other cooling fins. in my view i see it as 2 sets of radiators, 1 set connected to 3 pipes, 2nd set is 1 pipe continued off the middle CPU heatpipe. i think that is an excellent way to increase capacity, not as good as bi directional heatpipe extension, this is just 1 direction but still way better than stacking heat pipe in GT83VR CPU heatsink.

 

@ole!!! I think both me and brother @Papusan can agree with you there. GT83VR cooling is atrocious indeed.
One thing to note is GT83VR has half as many CPU VRM/Phases as Gt73VR/GT75VR/GT75. This was admitted by MSI because the GT83VR was originally designed for 6920HQ processor (precisely because of cooling issues) and 7920HQ processor. Eventually a 7820HK version surfaced with the full per key RGB Cherry MX speed keyswitches.

 

Alienware 17 R5 Review - Intel Core i9 and NVIDIA GTX 1080
MobileTechReview
Published on May 22, 2018
Lisa Gade reviews the top of the line Alienware 17 R5, with an Intel 8th gen Coffee Lake Core i9-8950HK overclockable CPU and NVIDIA GTX 1080 graphics. This is the 2018 refresh with the new CPU in a familiar casing, with the same excellent RGB backlit keyboard, 1080p/QHD 120Hz and 4K display options, Killer WiFi and Ethernet, up to 32GB RAM, NVMe SSDs and an HDD bay. The 17” R5 starts at $1,399 with a Core i7 and GTX 1060, and they are myriad configuration options all the way up to our $3,100 high end model. Dell (owners of the Alienware brand) say they’ve improved cooling, watch our review to find out how much.


Lenovo Yoga 730 13" Review
MobileTechReview
Published on May 16, 2018
Lisa Gade reviews the 13” Lenovo Yoga 730 2-in-1 Ultrabook with 360 degree hinges, Intel 8th gen Kaby Lake-R Core i5 and i7 quad core U series 15 watt CPUs and a full HD IPS display that supports pen and touch. The more affordable alternative to the Yoga 920 sports an aluminum casing and is slim and quite light at 2.47 lb. / 1.1 kg. Pricing starts at $799. The laptop works with Lenovo’s Active Pen 2 and other Wacom AES pens, and it supports 4,096 levels of pressure, making it well suited to drawing/painting, Photoshop work and note taking. A backlit keyboard, fingerprint scanner, Qualcomm Atheros WiFi, and a “normal” above the display webcam are standard.

 

Razer's new Blade feels like an XPS 15 for gamers
PCWorldVideos
Published on May 22, 2018
Razer redesigned the Blade with a new vapor chamber, Intel's 6-core Coffee Lake, Max-Q GeForce cards, and loads of other features. All of this in the world's smallest 15" gaming laptop! Gordon took some time at this event to check it out and report back to us on what he thinks.


Acer Predator Helios 500 with Intel Core i9 8950HK
Published on May 23, 2018

Acer Predator Helios 500 Showcase
GLITCHED By MWEB GameZone
Published on May 23, 2018

Acer Predator Helios 500 | Core-i9 Gaming Laptop Hands-On
GLITCHED By MWEB GameZone
Published on May 23, 2018
We played with Acer's brand new gaming monster, The Helios 500. This machine is one of the first on the market to boast an Intel Core i9 processor and a GTX 1070 all displayed on a gorgeous 144HZ Full HD display.

Acer Predator Helios 500 gaming laptop hands-on
Windows Central
Published on May 23, 2018
Designed for extreme gamers, the Predator Helios 500 is a gaming beast. It features up to overclockable 8th-Gen Intel Core i9+ processors and overclockable GeForce GTX 1070 graphics.

Acer Predator Helios 300 & 500 Hands-On!
Matthew Moniz
Published on May 23, 2018
Acer just announced the Predator Helios 300 and the Acer Predator Helios 500. Both packed with the latest 8th Gen Intel CPUs. These gaming laptops are powerful with a more affordable price tag. Watch for the full hands-on review!

 

Asus GL703GE (Core i7-8750H - GTX 1050 Ti) laptop

processor
Of course, the highlight of the GL703GE is Intel's new six- core Core i7-8750H . The TDP classification is as in the old i7-7700HQ at 45 watts, but the manufacturer has screwed on the clock. The 8750H has a low base clock (2.2 vs. 2.8 GHz), but the turbo at the load of one core is a good bit higher with a maximum of 4.1 GHz (previously 3.8 GHz). In Cinebench R15, we see the better single-core performance, because the 8750H is about 15% faster than the 7700HQ. Significantly greater is the advantage when multiple cores are used. The new 8750H is whopping 40% faster than the old 7700HQ. If you compare With the first round Cinebench yes, Second and further, nope.

Interestingly, however, the Asus GL703GE can not quite keep up with other 8750H based systems and falls 7% behind. This could either be due to a slight reduction in the performance of our test system or simply to a poorer copy of the Core i7.

In the long-term test with our Cinebench multi-loop, we see a familiar picture. The high result of the first pass can not be held and then stabilizes from the second pass.

 

Yeah, nothing match upgradeable notebooks.

1457cb with stock clocks + cpu temp maxed out 43C. 18C ambient temp home. Max 2C degrees between hottest vs. coldest core. I haven't seen the new Coffee BGA models with unlocked i9-8950hk run equal as in my soon 3 years old Clevo P870.


This is the new out there...
Alienware 17 R5 review (i9-8950hk - 1080)Techradar.com Cinebench R15 - 987cb
Asus ROG G703GI review (i9-8950hk - 1080)Techradar.com Cinebench R15 - 1070cb.

I have never seen so low Cinebench R15 results from any i9-8950hk as the one reviwed in Alienware 17R5. The ultimate bottom barrel!! And a lot lower CBR15 score than from my 4 core i7-7700K running wimpy 4.5GHz on all 4 cores (1020cb).


Aorus X5 v8 (i7-8850H - GTX 1070, Full HD) Laptop Review
The performance deviations of the 8750H devices can be explained by the different efficiency in using Turbo. Despite its small to medium advantage, even the Core i7-8850H installed in the X5 v8 does not exhaust its Turbo Boost to its fullest potential, as evidenced by our Cinebench loop. Partially unlocked as for the i7-8850H does't look very promising.


Test Acer Predator Helios 500 (GTX 1070 - i7-8750H) laptop

Six instead of four cores: Intel's popular quad-core Core i7-7700HQ from the past few years will be replaced by the new six-core Core i7-8750H. This does not lead to a 50% increase in performance in multi-threaded applications, but CPU tasks run faster, as our benchmarks show.

The TDP classification is still at 45 watts, but the clock has screwed Intel. The 8750H has a low base clock (2.2 vs. 2.8 GHz), but with a single core load, the turbo is a good bit higher at 4.1 GHz (7700HQ was 3.8 GHz).

But the Helios 500 is not in the leading position in the R15, it is in this test six percent below the average of all 8750H in our database and that's after all 8 devices. Not because we forgot Cool Boost, a powerful spinning fan could help to get more points in the R15.

Not at all! Whatever we set, whether Cool Boost and / or GPU Turbo (even if this has nothing to do with it), the R15 Multi stays where it is. On the contrary, it even drops to 880-890 points.

The OpenGL test in the R15 acknowledges GPU Turbo and Cool Boost with a minus of 20 points, on further runs it does not matter if we set Normal, GPU Turbo and / or Cool Boost.



The adverticeed 3.9GHz on all 6 cores for i7-8750H is almost worthless.

Same for the Partially unlocked i7-8850H

 

You should just add that you have a silicon lottery CPU, delided and with LM..

You are not really comparing a stock non binned/golden sample CPU, yes, I know, desktop CPU's are better.

And that without a custom BIOS that CPU wouldn't even boot in your laptop, its a full on custom system, that you can count on 2 hands how many like that are on earth.

 

Your response adds further fire to the problems with BGA.

1. With a real PGA cpu, you are not stuck with your silicon but actually have the ability to bin and select your cpu if you so desire

2. Delidding evens the playing field since mobile cpu’s do not have to worry about two additional layers (IHS and thermal compound) like their desktop counterparts. If intel did a better job delidding wouldn’t be needed.

The very fact of the removable nature of the 6700 -> 7700 -> 8700 and 3+ year life cycle of the P870DM should have true laptop enthusiasts seeing red when they see the locked down, disposable nature of every expensive BGA laptop.

Customized BIOS? yep. The fact manufacturers had the ability to extend the platform for users instead of forcing them to upgrade their motherboards or entire systems for the sake of even mor3 profits should make you irate.

When you have 3 year old gen 1 sky lake or 6 year old ivy bridge Alienware 17s and 18s still hanging in there you see the power of user upgradability.

 

What does a 6year old ivy vridge hanging in there got anything to do with the ability to upgrade? Thats and end of the line cpu when it comes to upgrade paths and is only still relevant because intel is moving fairly slowly for years.

Even though papusan shows a nice result. Its a well tuned machine with LM paste compared to non tuned machines with stock paste. The past alienware generations for example showed just as good temps with liquid metal.

 

we like to cherry pick, no problemo!. what @Papusan showed its a cherry picked bottom barrel CB15 benchmark!! lmao

 

You forgot one thing... The i9 BGA is binned by Intel for best results (even for use in laptops like the Dell XPS line). Hence they charge +$200 usd more than last years unlocked 7820Hk BGA.


FYI. I'm sure the results would still be good with the worst 8700K vs. any i9-8950Hk you get your hands on.

48x - Cinebench R15 - 1603cb (temp maxed out 56C degrees - 3C degrees between hottest vs. coldest core).

49x and temp maxed out 59C (1C degrees difference between hot vs. colddest core - Hope @Falkentyne is willing to accept this big temp difference ).

Nope. I show results from reviews and the owners who have it in hands.

This isn't cherry picked results... It's reality!!
i9-8950hk in newest AW 17R5 throttle so hard in Cinebench R15 that the scores is lower than last years max oc'd 4 core i7-7820Hk. 50% more cores and trash scores. This is the worst CBR15 score I have seen from Coffee lake BGA. And I talk about all 6 cores models.

 

show me your hwinf64 screenshot bruh, need to compare voltages etc since you're on adaptive.

 

This CPU is a random OEM non-cherry picked / non-silicon lottery chip:

https://valid.x86.fr/xdd94q

It's not uncommon for these CPUs to run at much higher clocks than their mobile counterparts...

 

It has everything to do with upgrading. When you have a 6 year old 3rd generation i7 based system having shown the ability to upgrade through **4** generations of GPUs internally, that speaks volumes versus the soldered GPUs that Alienware is now shipping. At least MSI still supports MXM'esque form factor for future consideration.

When that and other removable PGA based mobile CPUs and desktop CPU laptops have the ability to switch CPUs to optimize your choice of processor or source your CPU elsewhere if you so desire that has everything to do with it.

When you have previous and current architectures that aren't reliant on all systems not failing to perform and if one component goes down (GPU, MB, CPU) the entire system is down and needs its entire motherboard with CPU and GPU replaced, that means everything.

Papusan's situation, along with Mr Fox and Prema are the exact examples of why the BGA movement is undesired on many levels. And aren't 8950hk's binned for performance? Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought so.

I do like we have HID going the extra mile and really pushing systems on all levels to optimize performance and cooling and correcting flaws from the mothership. For my guildies and friends, I pretty much recommend them and have for over a year now and everyone of them have been more than satisfied with their purchases (primarily Clevo's with a few MSIs).

I don't hate integrated solutions with everything clamped down and for those who want thinner and lighter I get it, but I fear the day will come when we won't have Clevo or to an extent MSI still producing truly big and powerful laptops that are worthy of the moniker desktop replacements.

 

The fact a 5yr old laptop is able to be upgraded from the midrange CPU that came with it to one that is almost 2x the speed to keep up with parts 4 years newer, and feed upgraded graphics cards 4 gens newer is exactly what upgradeability is about.

1070sli laptops are $5000 plus here in Aus, I spent $1600 on GPUs, $150 on a 120hz display, and $400 for a whole second chassis with 3940XM in it, to achieve similar performance. Or, more performance, putting it on par with BGA 1080sli laptops, because I modded it with watercooling and OCed the snot out of it - I had a complete set of backup parts and wasn't worried about voiding warranty.

And of course, mobo/cpu/gpus could be individually swapped if one busted because they are not all soldered together.

I realise its a very niche market segment but without sockets I wouldn't have attempted any of this

 

Finally, for the first time we can now see Dell's adverticed 5.0GHz overclock profile in action

Review of Alienware 17R5
Awful results as all other I have seen from the 2018 line Alienware's. As expected, the 5.0GHz oc profile from Dell is useless or better said worthless as it is put up. Because the unlocked i9-8950Hk BGA can barely run 3.5GHz in the FS physics test. If the 5.0GHz oc profile have worked as intended, the results would still be awful (thermal throttling). Why on earth will Dell put i9 in their flagship laptops? Only due those +$600 usd they can charge more on top of i7-the i7-8750H ? Milk most possible money from your wallets instead of using common sense.

5.0GHz 3.5GHz


And we can see Dave Lee turn the offset voltage the correct way for highest possible clocks

 

Did Razer screw up?? - Blade 2018 Classic Unboxing
Linus Tech Tips
Published on May 26, 2018


Top 5 Best Laptops of 2018 (So Far)
Hardware Unboxed
Published on May 27, 2018

 

I9 8950HK - 6c/12t (Laptop) vs I9 7900X -10c/20t (PC) | Tested 14 Games
For Gamers
Published on May 27, 2018


Razer Blade 15 - The Smallest 15.6” Gaming Laptop!
Dave Lee
Published on May 27, 2018
Dave2D review of the new Razer Blade 15. Their best gaming laptop with a 6-core CPU + GTX 1070 MaxQ!

 

$3500 I9 Laptop vs $1500 I5/I7 PC | Tested 14 Games
For Gamers
Published on May 28, 2018