Intel Core i7-8750H/ i7-8850H/ i9-8950H Coffee Lake

That's how I pronounce it, klEE-vOH. Don't know if that's right or not, but that's how it's spelt to me.

 

Here is another one...

Sager:
Say-ger
or
Say-jer
or
Sahger (curtosey of @Robbo99999 )


One is right, but they accept both.

 

Ha, and I say that one Sahger!

 

That's a another good one. I'll add it to the list.

 

We'll put it in a spreadsheet or something!

 

On the couple of times I called them in CA, they always used "Say - jer" with a "soft G".

 

When I was there 2 weeks ago and asked them. They said it's pronounced:
Say-Ger
Ger like in the word Tiger, but navigations and google and even siri pronounce Ger like in Germany.
And them themselves will use either or depending on who is answering the phones.

 

You are welcome here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ongfang-gk5cn6z.815943/page-223#post-10840016

since we are a bit in the dark on how to unlock this OP bios.

 

I also need to make an edit. The machine in question is not a Clevo re-bran but a Tongfang or Eluktronics-Tongfang re-bran. From what I can gather.

 

OverPowered 17+ Review - Best Value 17" GTX 1060 Laptop !! - $999
OWNorDisown
Published on Dec 30, 2018
The OP 17+ with a GTX 1060, 144 Hz IPS display, i7 8750h CPU , 256GB SSD , 2 TB HDD and 32 GB RAM is insane value at $999 at Walmart.

Spoiler: Links...

https://www.walmart.com/ip/OVERPOWE...256-SSD-2TB-HDD-32GB-RAM-Windows-10/887474519

Test Results: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=42EB2AAF9B4D1FAE!36637&authkey=!AKT9Zu-unXR2ns8&ithint=file,xlsx

How Well does The OverPowered 17+ Play Games?
OWNorDisown
Published on Dec 21, 2018
Walmart's OverPowered (OP) Laptop line offers best value for gaming laptops with the 15+ costing $800 and the 17+ $999, both with an i7 8750h/ GTX 1060 and 144 Hz IPS panels. I tested the 17+ via Live Stream on Twitch and tested Overwatch, BFV, Fortnite, Far Cry 5 and Shadow Of The Tomb Raider. I also showed the BIOS, laptop power and fan profiles as well as back light bleed.

Walmart OverPowered 17+ Gaming Laptop - Unboxed & First Look
OWNorDisown
Published on Dec 16, 2018
Walmart's Overpowered gaming line of laptops use TongFang chassis and are available in 15" and 17" formats. Today I take a first look at the Overpowered 17+ which is the same as the Eluktronics MECH-17 Pro-X.

Spoiler: Details...Links

For $1299 you get :
17" 144 Hz IPS 1080p display,
32 GB DDR4 2666 Mhz RAM
2 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
GTX 1060
i7 8750h

Available here:
https://www.walmart.com/search/?query...

Check out Bob's review on the 15+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7wG4...

 

Review of Alienware 17 R5 - The Dreamy Gaming Machine laptop.bg

Alienware is a truly iconic name when talking about gaming. Their laptops have always attracted interest in their alien design and high-end hardware.

This year Alienware 17 R5 comes with the new Core i9-8950HK processor, unlocked for overclocking to 5.00 GHz. The Alienware 17 R5 focuses exclusively on overclocking and extracting maximum performance. Even the video card is factory overclock - rarely found on laptops.

The biggest question is whether cooling will handle this hardware. Let's find out if Alienware 17 R5 is this year's champion.


This is what we call progress. Add in more cores to saturate the well known TRIPOD heatsink with more heat... Domed to fail. I really hope Alienware's next refreshed models comes with Turing graphics or this will be even worse in next review.

 

Pay extra for less? Well, that makes sense. NOT! If it "focuses exclusively on overclocking and extracting maximum performance" then we have to wonder why it isn't doing better. Seems like another example of saying whatever they think will result in sales rather than good old-fashioned honesty.

I wonder if Alienware wrote the script for the content of the review, or if the reviewer is just a silly person. Or, maybe they just don't know what they don't know?

 

The Best and Worst Laptops of 2018
Jarrod'sTech
Published on Dec 30, 2018
Let’s recap 2018 and find out what the best and worst laptops of the year were in a number of different categories!

Spoiler: Check pricing:

Acer Helios 300
Dell G5
Acer Nitro 5
ASUS Zephyrus M
ASUS Zephyrus S
Razer Blade
Gigabyte Aero 15x
MSI GS65
ASUS Scar II
Dell G7
Acer Helios 500
MSI GT75 Titan
Dell XPS 15 2-in-1

 

He can't even see that the 4.9GHz OC is massively flawed...

 

jclausius,

From those apparently close to Clevo, they overwhelmingly pronounce ODM maker Clevo with a SHORT E vowel sound (via youtube videos and phone calls). ( klev-O ) I found this out when researching my Alienware replacement two years ago.

Linus Sebastian's pronunciation of Clevo is the correct one as far as I know and it's the pronunciation I use.

( starts at 09:20)

( starts at 09:20)

 

The Tong Fang laptop is the one Brother @B0B has videos about. Interesting that OriginPC is selling the same product ($800 Overpowered brand from Walmart) with their branding for $1400. $600 is a pretty steep premium for nothing but a logo.

 

Walmart originally had their 15+ OP model listed at $1399, then $999, $899 to finally $799. At $1399 it's still cheaper than the same spec'd G2 from Eluktronics. Not that i'm justifying either at that price.

This current price at $799 really screws with my perception of ALL other laptops per price to performance ratio.

I'm a realist and not a content creator that has their closet filled with amazing hardware to review ( I really wanted to word that differently). Regardless of what's to come for BOAT, I have been blue-collar for way too long (if you only knew how old I was lol). No way I want to change that. Doing so would compromise more than just me and the channel.

In other words, I would, and do proudly daily, drive these "cheap" laptops and never feel bad doing so, whatsoever.

With that out of the way! I really want to see some more LGA 15" chassis, like NOW!

Christ! Even my fingers talk the balls off a rhino!

 

No need to feel bad or apologize for anything. You rock and you know it, bro.



Old is awesome. I know because I'm old, too. We're both living proof of that. We'll both be going out in a blaze of glory, LOL.

I don't hate BGA any less than before, and maybe more than before, thanks to your videos on those super-cheap Walmart laptops. The Overpowered turdbooks are everything that the others should be starting with the price. That's all any of them are actually worth. Period. Kudos to you and Walmart/Overpowered for putting things into proper financial perspective for the world to see. Those that are smart will be paying attention.

Speaking of cool old guys with YouTube channels, this overclocked old man is really awesome. I found his YouTube channel a while back. I really envy his talent.



Edit: Happy New Year, everyone. May 2019 be filled with blessings for each of you and your families.

 

As I have stated long time now! When worse ain't enough! @Mr. Fox @Ultra Male @Rei Fukai @Ashtrix @Falkentyne +++ All others

End of the road — Dell will cease production of the Alienware 15 and 17 series

End of the road — Dell will cease production of the Alienware 15 and 17 series (Image source: Vectorstock.com)
These two classic Alienware laptops have reached End-of-Life (EOL) status in order to make room for the thinner, lighter, and sleeker Alienware m15 and m17 successors. The Alienware 17 in particular is being succeeded by both the Alienware m17 and the much more versatile Alienware Area-51m desktop replacement.

After more than six years in the market, the original Alienware 15 and Alienware 17 lineup will go the way of the dodo. Users should not expect an “Alienware 15 R6” or “Alienware 17 R6” anytime soon nor will there any Nvidia Turing updates for existing models.

The news comes on the week of CES 2019 where Dell unveiled its ultrathin Alienware m17 and an updated Alienware m15. The m17 and m15 have effectively replaced the Alienware 17 and Alienware 15, respectively, with graphics options ranging up to the GTX 2080 Max-Q each. These redesigned models are significantly lighter and smaller than their respective counterparts to better compete against the growing range of ultrathin gaming competitors like the Gigabyte Aero 15, Asus ROG Zephyrus GX531, Lenovo Legion Y730, Razer Blade 15 and Blade Pro, Acer Predator Triton 700, and the MSI GS65.

When the original Alienware m15 was announced back in October of 2018, Dell had informed us that the new design would not be replacing the Alienware 15 and that both models would continue to sell concurrently. Unfortunately, we’re only learning now that Dell was referring to just the 2018 calendar year; the m15 series was designed to directly succeed the 15 series all along. Of course, sneaky Dell didn't want to make that info public too early as they would have risked lower sales of the Alienware 15 series throughout the rest of 2018.

Veteran Alienware fans who aren't drawn in by the thinner Alienware m17 can still choose the Alienware Area-51m desktop replacement won't touch the Alienware's. This latter design maximizes performance and serviceability much like on the original Alienware 17 series that it is set to replace.

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CES 2019 | Upcoming Alienware m17 will be 7 mm thinner than the Alienware 17 R5

Upcoming Alienware m17 will be 7 mm thinner than the Alienware 17 R5 (Source: Dell)
The new Alienware m17 is essentially the 17-inch version of the existing Alienware m15. Dell will launch the laptop later this month with next generation Nvidia Turing Max-Q graphics.

 

Yeah, sure, with an i9 in a chassis that can barely cool the i7 /s

This is accurate. Also, announcing this low key is a dick move.
Alienware has already lost an opportunity with the older, thicker line whose thermal headroom would've fared better with the new Turing GPUs. Any incentive to brand loyalty, at this point, is long gone.
Pushing thin designs to everyone isn't a smart marketing ploy, its' downright suicidal.

 

Max-Q and i9-8950Hk will run hot. How many times can a Flagship sink?

Alienwares first start being Apple (The Gods year 2015)
Alienware 15 R1 CPU ISSUE *WARNING*

 

Urgh....not too happy about this. One of the benefits of Alienware systems is that they have generations with multiple versions/revisions for each generation. This makes acquiring spareparts so much easier. I hope they would continue this with the current thicker versions. Even though they also discarded the echo models after just 2 revisions.

Frank Azor stated they would might return with thicker Alienwares with MXM boards again. But nothing has been announced.

Well that means that I have to buy a battery pack for my AW15R3 soon as a spare and keep it stored in a cool palce to have at least a battery pack replacement. Who knows when they stop producing those (if not already).

Might just buy a cheaper gaming laptop again XX60 class and build a small form factor Ryzen system with a 2070 or something for about 1000euro's instead.

 

Where are you getting that the current 15 rX and 17rX product lines are being discontinued? I can’t see Alienware going with just the m15 and m17 as these are targeted at a different audience currently unserved by Alienware.

 

Maybe more money in Max-Q? You have fogot that Alienware's Gamingbooks has gone thinner each gen? And why would Azor change goal?


ALIENWARE REDESIGNS THEIR AREA-51M LAPTOP TO KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF
It supports Intel’s i9 processor, 64GB of RAM, and 2.5Gbit ethernet

 

A simple change of name to nostalgic AW users using m series will find it enticing but the truth is if they cannot cool the components down then its better to sell the lower H versions and not HK.
After AW is tired of M series naming scheme they'll release R1..R5 again.
If chassis thickness is reduced by 7mm on m17, I bet it has got rid of 2.5" in favor of 5x M.2 SSDs, 4 USB ports and SD card slot. Unless they want 2080 SLI on m17x to compete with Clevo.

 

That Area 51m really looks amazing - white, impressive lighting, thick profile to allow great cooling - upgrading options.
Nice to see big laptops also, and not just those laptops getting thinner and thinner ...
How thin does a gaming laptop have to be? If its sitting on the desk, do i really care about 7mm more or less? - i dont

 

Reminded me of Acer predator designs.

 

Desktop hardware and Dell's usual locked down firmware + their prefered power capped TDP design ( remember last AW18 in history and dual PSU?) doesn't look appealing. And it seems Azor still prefer 2 ram slots. Nope, won't jump on this.

 

RAM and SSD are expensive so there must be more slots and as usual 65-80W limit doesn't cut it.

 

My mood. I won't be touching no BGA no more after this adventure. Will probably start saving this year to start looking what's in the market on 2020. Dell and Azor can get the finger from me cause they've proven that their agenda is more important than customer need. So bye AW I won't miss ya.

 

Man that link broke me. Like, what the ****, Azor?

 

No high refresh rate IPS screen on the m17

 

Has there been any information about the Nvidia 20xx mobile GPUs having mxm? I haven’t found anything saying MXM is being offered.

Essentially I’m trying to find out if any OEM will offer removable and upgradeable 20xx GPUs.

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So, why is my surprised look not on my face? The cancer has metastasized further, as fully expected. Meh... everything they sell has become garbage since they went BGA anyway, so what difference does it make in the grand scheme of things? A turdbook is a turdbook whether it is thick or thin. I'm not interested in it either way and wouldn't waste my money on such rubbish regardless of how heavy or light, thick or thin, that piece of junk is. Dell should just stop selling Alienware. They haven't made a decent notebook since 2012, and even their desktops are proprietary crippled junk.

 

If this were LGA, I might care.
Until i realized it would still be a castrated mess of cancer firmware anyway.

 

So it’s confirmed the new Area 51m is BGA?


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Yep. Pretty much... "It has an Intel Core i9-8950HK processor, with options for i5 or i7 processors as well." from https://venturebeat.com/2019/01/06/...-m15-gaming-laptop-with-thinnest-design-ever/


( Link stolen from this thread - link posted from http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/rtx-laptops-announced.826785/#post-10843289 )

 

Area 51M should have desktop hardware (LGA and maybe MXM), but the performance might be severely limited by the firmware.

Dell usually limits the user control over the hardware, with locked firmware and with proprietary control software (even their desktops have restrictions).

 

I’m not finding that at all in that page - no mention of MXM, LGA, or DGFF, or even upgradeable CPU/GPU - just a mention of thr AGA


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Because those links are for the AW m15 (which is BGA).

Things like: upgradeable hardware, Z390 chipset, 9th gen i9 - 8 core CPU, were all mentioned in this article (when it was working):

https://geekspin.co/alienwares-area-51m/

 

Agreed... not a good option for desktop. Maybe the stray "M" caused some confusion. There is no Area 51M.

Buying an Alienware desktop is similar to buying a Camaro or Mustang with all the bells and whistles, but a 4-cylinder wheezer motor.

 

Not so fast....

There’s been leaks that a new Area 51m is replacement for the 15r and 17r families that are now apparently EOL.

So the Area 51m, if real, will be official in the next day or two.

https://m.imgur.com/a/vWFFyLJ




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Hmm. Well, now that's...

...not to mention, rather unattractive...

 

Sorry, I thought you had a typo, and were referring to the "Alienware m15". I see now you were actually asking about an "Alienware Area 51m. The only information I can find on Area 51m is from 2003 - 2005:

https://www.pcworld.com/article/121573/article.html
https://www.cnet.com/reviews/alienware-area-51m-review/

What leaks?

 

Thanks, but I was referring to the rumored replacement for the 17r5 and 15r4 families.

A Chinese video shows what is claimed to be a prototype motherboard but alas I do not read mandarin.


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They really need to pick a new product design group. The stuff they release just keeps getting uglier with each generation. This one is the worst yet aesthetically... truly tacky-looking design. And, that's just the part on the outside. Lord knows how much they're going to botch up the innards this time.

 

You can find discussions about the redesigned area 51m laptop in the following thread:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...laptop-to-replace-alienware-15-and-17.826796/

 

Thanks for the link. It looks like the people in that thread are excited about it, so I won't make any negative comments there. As much as I dislike Dellienware's defective products, I will show them some common respect. It's not appropriate for an uninvited guest to poop on the carpet. Plus, nobody likes to be told their baby is ugly.

It looks like there is some speculation about whether it will be another BGA turdbook. Based on their current business model and the small form factor, it is unlikely it will have a desktop CPU or MXM graphics, and equally unlikely (based on their modus operandi) that it will have respectable firmware options, good thermal management or deliver full performance.

 

None should trust Azor... http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/bga-wireless-card-samsung.802502/page-3#post-10483896

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r-anything-on-awa.770195/page-18#post-9914422

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r-anything-on-awa.770195/page-15#post-9914256

See first link above. Dell in an nutshell! @Cass-Olé

3.8Kg won't contain much copper. A flimsy thin shared TRIPOD heatsink won't up the weight on mentioned model. Remember current Alienware 17R5 is above 4.42KG. And with LGA hardware + upgradeable graphics in a thicker and bigger chassis they go oposite way and <decrease> weight

 

We have ample evidence that people do not think. And, they do not learn from repeated mistakes. It is very sad.

The wild speculation about the CPU and chipset is ludicrous, and so is the notion that they would actually be able to properly cool it in such a small chassis. They have proven their engineering incompetence, repeatedly, in failing to properly execute on thermal management for systems with 50-70% less TDP. Skunks do not change their stripes.