Intel Core i7-8750H/ i7-8850H/ i9-8950H Coffee Lake

Yes, I understand that. But, since it is not mine I am not concerned about the security of it. Now, I do appreciate your suggestions and I might be concerned if it were my phone and used for personal things. Not counting the GPS aspect of it, the device does not have my name and address associated with it except on internal records showing the phone is assigned to me. The phone number is associated to the company name and a corporate address 1500 miles away. Other than a few immediate family members and maybe a half dozen friends, all of the contacts on it are related to business and most are internal. I send and receive probably fewer than 25 text messages a year on it, and while it is my one and only way to make business phone calls and I use it for 100% of my business phone calls, 98% of the phone calls made on it are to another employee that is also using a company-issued iPhone and 9 out of 10 phone calls placed are to a group of about 15 individuals or to a teleconference number. It does not have open internet access, so all internet activity is filtered through a company owned VPN and URLs are whitelisted. So, to me it is almost like an expensive burner phone with no personal, sentimental or intrinsic value attached to it.

 

I didn't know about the device policy in the USA, since I usually see/hear people people buying high end devices and assign enterprise auth and resetting the phone is a pain in the back, always.
Then I think its fine, let your company be one of the GP for data mining.

 

Oh, yeah there is that option. They do have a BYOD program available. But, I do not want my employer to have access to any aspect of my personal cell phone. In order to do the BYOD thing, employees have to agree to have company spyware installed and use the personal phone in the same manner they would a company owned device. While I minimize the use of my personal phone for similar reasons (hate small screens and touch, and mobile web design) I have a problem with giving that access to them conceptually. I avoid mingling business and personal as much as possible.

That said, I will check out that app and maybe suggest it internally for added security of corporate owned devices.

 

Maybe the people who are interested in CFL-HQ BGA turdbooks working correctly should step up to the plate and pool their resources to fund that project so @unclewebb does not have to waste his own money developing a free product that so few donate to in a show of appreciation.

 

Maybe I'll send some BGAs and LGAs to unclewebb when I have some extra cash. It will take some years to save up some cash.

 

If everyone that uses ThrottleStop would chip in a little it would be easy to support it with no burden on a small group of a few appreciative supporters.

 

Just ran Geekbench on my i7-4720HQ for curiosity sake:

4329 single core
13690multi-core

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/7288220

On a CPU limited to 3.4Ghz multi-core and 3.8Ghz max clock and FOUR generations older on basic 800Mhz DDR3L, running win 10 pro...

With two extra cores, thats a miserable score for the 6 core cpu's, I was kinda waiting for them, better grab a used mobo with a 6820HK and OC it because its such a small difference and those new i7 will be expensive in laptop form factor..

 

Or take Intel's last gen 4 cores mobile i7-7700Hq (4560/15636)

 

Or, even better a last gen real CPU...

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/7293634



Geekbench is not a particularly good benchmark unless you are benching a cell phone or tablet. It doesn't work the CPU very hard... pretty wimpy workload. It does not push a 7700K hard enough for the CPU to reach stock TDP. Even something like 3DMark 11 pushes the CPU harder.

 

Still, Only 24% more performance with 50% more cores from next gen BGA seems like a bad deal Same as 8700K only performed 24% better than 4 core i7-7700K

 

I see about 40-42% better score with 8700K versus 7700K in multi-core. I never test stock, only overclocked, because I never use stock CPU clocks even for web browsing. Only overclocked performance matters to me because my systems are always overclocked... all day, every day.

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/7293634?baseline=5254613

 

I forgot to mention the new i7-8850Hq if this will be the name, Is claimed to run 4.0GHz with 6 cores vs. 3.4GHz on 4 cores for 7700Hq. This means the Geekbenc score posted for i7-8850hq is even worse vs 7700Hq. Do your math, bruh

 

Your score made my cpu cry.

 

Why is taking so long for Intel to release these CPUs? The Intel Core i5-8400H seems very good option, offers everything and more what the current I7-7700HQ can do. The only big concer if someone can mod Windows 7 driver...?

 

Coffee Lake CPUs stable on modded 100, 200 series chipsets
by Mark Tyson on 5 March 2018, 10:01
http://www.hexus.net/tech/news/main...e-cpus-stable-modded-100-200-series-chipsets/

"When Intel launched the 8th generation Core processors (Coffee Lake), enthusiasts were disappointed at yet another motherboard upgrade being required. Intel asserted that a new platform was required this time around to support more ground and power pads on the newer CPUs. Furthermore, Intel said that the 300 Series boards were necessary to offer the enhanced voltage regulation required to drive a six-core processor and very fast memory. However, the HEXUS editor thought Intel's position was "balderdash," as explained in our first Coffee Lake processor review.

Spoiler

Over the weekend hardware modders have shared news that they have successfully been running Coffee Lake processors on 100 and 200 series chipsets. The first chip to be tests as being "completely working" is the Core i3 8100. It is thought that there will be no real issues getting any other quad-core Coffee Lake processor to work.

A mix of software/firmware was used by Intel to lock out the possibility of using Coffee Lake processors on 100 and 200 series chipsets. On the Overclock forums, RootMoto said that the main hurdle is the Management Engine Firmware. TechPowerUp reports that further stumbling blocks are the CPU's microcode, and the iGPU's UEFI GOP driver. One other thing of note is that so far the hack/mod has only worked with ASRock motherboards (without the side-effect of the PCIe interface going missing) - but these are early days.

If you are interested in executing the mod, a guide has been published on the Win-Raid forum. In brief you must download four BIOS related programs and follow a six step process. Modding doesn't seem to be a very complicated procedure but obviously such jiggery pokery could be bad for hardware warranties, or worse, so please proceed with caution.

Coffee Lake Stable on Modded 100 & 200 Series | Performance Impact of Meltdown & More

This is actually for socketed CPU's like the 8700K, so best to discuss here:
Intel Core i7-8700K Coffee Lake Z370 and Z390
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ke-z370-and-z390.809268/page-41#post-10690716

 

Please don't compare the iOS ARM64 GB and Windows x86/64 GB results, they run entirely different setups with different compiler optimizations and flags.
CISC vs RISC is no comparison. Don't quote them as a reference. No offense.

Also ugh that A series chips are awful. They throttle and kill their energy provider - battery, prematurely. Apple nicely rips off people by "magical" iOS animations and downclocks it, be it overtime after the purchase or brand new, that's why they drain faster when you put significant load. SD 845 rips apart the A11 "custom" (yeah poaching all the Imagination Tech after making them bend for years for their GPUs, now just an outer shell with number of people sold to a Chinese corp. Just like how Google did to Motorola.) GPU to shreds in efficiency with similar overall performance. Even 835 beats it on SoC grounds when checking for the consistent performance. I couldn't find the perfect Car Analogy for this, I read it once and it fits like a glove..

Everything Apple does is masqueraded by their walled utopia and the people who believe it so. Unfortunate thing is that's spreading everywhere.

What isn't doing it nowadays, the moment you are into the Internet everything related to your privacy is gone, at this point it's just an Illusion. Until 2017 Google used to read every letter of your Gmail conversations. Win10, Apple's so called strong stance for PR on this matter is laughable when a simple social engineering hack can send waves in press, also handing over the data of a P2P site owner for extradition into US. There's nothing private, only thing matters is how to safeguard it when you can and how to know and control our reach and strengthen it as per required to shield it from be it individual or corporate or government.

Take that Moviepass (1.5 million & growing as we speak) for example, how do they make money ? Simple, data., An analytics company has stake in it, ofc the masive data of consumers , a.k.a bigdata consumer analytics fueling everything from the quality of the movies to the drinks, popcorn and analyse the data from it to mimic the best desired business structure, free passes, promotional benefits data and reviews, demographics of everything from areas to ethnicity and allied relationships with studios from bigsix or others (AMC is against, but eventually they will collaborate) to check which movies people went and were interested in, otherwise focusing on the marketing magic over this new weapon called social media maneuvering. Validation of the users is literally the crown jewel.

Nowadays everywhere the Cloud computing is there, Google's being invited to the latest OPEC meet..

This phenomenon is unstoppable.

This is what destroying the market, they run these profit inflating algorithms and all the corporate is weaved into this and one idea and a push is all what needed, that's what Apple excels at, look at that fugly notch, M$'s thin and light drama with Touch based B$ OS and Intel's BGA, Nvidia's Max Q. Cookie cutter garbage fueled by Kool-aid double damage when Kool-aid drinkers come into the picture.

This is a damn ocean and there's no bottom for this...unfortunate.

 

Hey, I know that, ARM and Intel Archs are different. I simply posted my profile with all benches listed to Mr. Fox and get any tips to enhance my scores for my BGA Chip.
AXXX chip isn't that great like people say or review it. Its dead similar to Snapdragon or exynos. I was disappointed with it and gave it to my phone who is now a happy mobile user switching from Lumia. One bad thing to using iOS is, you forget to use Android or Lumias after using iphones. My mom is pretty confused and felt it very difficult. BTW, I switched to Lumia.

 

https://videocardz.com/75223/msi-gt83vr-titan-is-the-first-notebook-with-6-core-coffeelake-cpu

 

here some new laptops form asus

Asus ROG STRIX GL703GM-EE026T
https://www.steg-electronics.ch/de/article/Asus-ROG-STRIX-GL703GM-EE026T-24785075.aspx
https://www.pcp.ch/fr/Asus-ROG-STRIX-GL703GM-EE026T-1a24785075.htm

Asus ROG STRIX GL703GS-E5039T
https://www.steg-electronics.ch/de/article/Asus-ROG-STRIX-GL703GS-E5039T-24785089.aspx


they are part of a list of refreshed laptops form asus
A542UQ, BX310UA, BX410UA, K510UN, UX3490UAR, UX561UN, X542UN, UX310UF, UX410UF, GX501GI, GX501GS, GM501GS, GM501GM, G703GI, G703GS, GL703GS, GL703GM, GL703GE, GL503GE, GL503GS, GL503GM, FX504GD, UX550GD, UX550GE, UX550GDX, UX550GEX, UX391UA, N705UF, N580GD, S410UF, S510UF, x542UF, X510UF, X705UB, X705UF, X705MB, X705MA, X570UD, X507UA, X507UB, X507MA, X541UB, X540UB, X540MB, X540MA, X540UP, X570ZD, X505ZA

 

Yeah, at least ship some 2440x1440p displays in there, on the other hand if it still is using a 18 inch display that limits choice by a lot.

 

it is 45 tdp, anyone know heat value?

 

Msi’s engineers ain’t totally stupid(See... fully working NOS system. Aka battery Turbo boost). They know very well that the Gt83 cooling can’t handle Cpu power above 45W TDP. The 1080 SLI Graphics need all the pipes and grills it can get in Gt83.

 

45 w and 100 degree celcius ? sound REALLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BAD !

 

Pretty good numbers nearing 100C on both CPU and GPU.

 

They'll probably put the i9 in the GT75VR, which seems to have the cooling for it and a single GTX 1080 at stock with Cooler Boost.


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Then whats not stupid here?
If msi's engineers know that their cpu cant cope more then 45w, then it cant even cope with 1080 sli!

And for more non sense, they put only one zener diode on gt83( more number of zener diode, more the stable output load at higher volts)

 

Ahhh, nope.

i9 would prolly be used only on those gt83

 

You missed the point. Forget i9 BGA in this chassis. Won't work. Did you see the pict in my previous post? The cooling have more than enough with the 1080 graphics in SLI. It's a reason MSI skipped 7820HK for this chassis.

 

Ahh, no they didnt missed that

https://www.amazon.in/gp/aw/d/B01N6...83vr+titan&dpPl=1&dpID=3175P+++ykL&ref=plSrch


Msi gt83 sold in india have OCable 7820hk( not very far tho, my brother's gt83 never went past 4ghz)


Even the fangbook(gt83 barebone) sold by cyberpowerpc.com has a 7820hk.

 

Let's see. I think @Papusan post about the i9 being too much for the GT83VR is correct, but since when have BGA laptop makers made the most sensible decisions?

 

Did you even bother take a look in the link you posted? We talk about GT83 with 1080SLI and unlocked HK BGA.

 

Ugh, yes?

 

I can see you still don't get it!!

 

When I saw the link on phone I saw SLI but just now looked it up on my PC and noticed it was 1070M SLI.

 

People should take a look on previous posts... READ THEM!! Then maybe it will come up a light

 

The US 6th generation Intel CPU GT83 1080 SLI had a 6820HK (unlocked) model GT83VR Titan SLI-069 and a 6920HQ (tuneable bins up to 4.1ghz) model GT83VR TITAN SLI-024:
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT83VR-TITAN-SLI-6th-Gen-GTX-1080-SLI/Specification

The US 7th Generation Intel CPU GT83 1080 SLI only had 7920HQ (tuneable bins up to 4.1ghz) GT83VR TITAN SLI-252 and GT83VR Titan SLI-212
https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT83VR-TITAN-SLI-7th-Gen-GEFORCE<sup>®<sup>-GTX-1080-SLI/Specification

I hope this time the US 8th Generation CPU options include the i9-8950HK - which interestingly seems to be the only i9 mobile CPU, so the typical 7820HK or 7920HQ would suggest there should be a 8850HK + 8950HQ... so maybe only 1 highend CPU this time as the 8950HK, which leads me to hope there will be a 8950HK unlocked in the GT83.

 

They will need to redo the cooling system if they do that, or it will run crazy hot and have performance problems.

Having a hexacore BGA CPU just seems like a ludicrous idea when you stop and think about it. It makes what little rationale exists to legitimize the use of BGA null and void. But, the GT83 as a whole already fell into that bucket as a big, heavy, expensive SLI turdbook with a castrated CPU.

If the are going to do it, they should do it right and go with 8700K to make it something truly special. Anyone that might be concerned about an extra quarter inch of girth to do it right is already looking at the wrong product.

 

Coffee Lake-H: Up to 6 cores and 4.8 GHz Turbo in the notebook
19.1.2018 7:01 clock Michael Günsch
https://www.computerbase.de/2018-01/intel-coffee-lake-h-spezifikationen/

"With Coffee Lake , Intel will also offer in the notebook CPUs with six cores and twelve threads. This open secret is reinforced by new information. Leaks' notorious Chiphell Forum has published a list of the major specifications of the Coffee Lake-H for notebooks.

Starting from the top, the Core i9-8950HK will be the flagship with its free multiplier. This should basically have the same specifications as the professional partner Xeon E-2186M. This would mean 2.9 GHz in the base, 4.3 GHz as turbo for all cores and very high 4.8 GHz for just one core, if the information is correct. The "K" indicates the free multiplier, while the Xeon ECC support is expected.

With Core i7-8850H and i7-8750H, two more models are expected to offer six cores and twelve threads, but significantly less clock. The Core i5-8400H and Core i5-8300H are therefore equipped with four cores and eight threads. In terms of graphics unit, there should be no innovation and so should the HD 630, which also has its predecessor Kaby Lake -H, used again.

With significantly more graphics performance, Intel has recently added Kaby Lake-G , which combines with a Radeon Vega GPU from AMD in the same package. The Coffee Lake-H, on the other hand, can be expected in gaming notebooks and mobile workstations in combination with an even more powerful standalone GPU from AMD or Nvidia.

The names of the new notebook CPUs had already been revealed in advance by a version of the tool AIDA64 . The Xeon is also the model E-2176M planned with the same number of cores but lower clock compared to the E-2186M.

Market launch in March / April
According to statements by the user who published the information, publication is expected in March 2018. In advance, there were indications that the delivery would take place from the 15th calendar week, which corresponds to the first half of April. It is conceivable, therefore, a performance at the end of March with subsequent availability in the following month. A by now admittedly very old roadmap had suitably been announced by Coffee Lake-H for the second quarter of 2018.

Update 12.02.2018 09:46 clock
A support staff of Gigabyte the request of a customer after the delivery situation in the current Aero 15X with a reference to a forthcoming successor answered . The announced in September 2017 version with Core i7-7700HQ and mobile GeForce GTX 1070 is already no longer available, with a successor with " Intel's 8th generation processors " is expected in late March / early April. In the device class, these can only be six-core Coffee Lake H CPUs.

As final confirmation for the presentation of the platform during this period, however, this statement can not yet be counted. For one thing, employees in support are not necessarily perfectly aware of the usually secret roadmaps, on the other hand, the Aero series last appeared always with a time lag - notebooks of the series were never directly available for the launch of a new Intel architecture."

 

https://twitter.com/videocardz?lang=en

 

Exactly. Unlocked 8950Hk would boil in this Gt83 chassis. People should ask themself... Why didn't MSI promote the unlocked 8950hk in their flagship BGAbook with 1080 Sli!!

 

46.7cm (18.4 ") MSI GT83 Titanium 8RG
https://www.ebay.de/itm/46-7cm-18-4-MSI-GT83-Titan-8RG-/202236970663

46.7cm (18.4 ") MSI GT83 Titanium 8RG
http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBay...der=1&oneClk=1&secureDesc=0&oversion=5e13563d

item Description
Design
Form factor: Hinged housing
Color of product: Black
Market positioning: Gaming
Product type: Notebook

Display
Aspect ratio: 16: 9
Screen size: 46.7 cm (18.4 inches)
Screen resolution: 1920 x 1080 pixels
Touchscreen: No
LED backlight: Yes
3D: No
HD type: Full HD

Processor
Processor: i9-8950HK
Processor Lithography : 14nm Processor Family
: Intel® Core ™ i9
Processor Cores : 6
Processor Threads: 12
PCI Express Slots Version: 3 0
Processor Modes: 64-bit
Processor Boost Clock: 4.8 GHz
Processor Speed: 2.9GHz
Thermal Design Power (TDP): 45W
Processor Codename: Coffee Lake
Processor Cache Type: Smart Cache
Processor Series: Intel Core i9-8950 Mobile Series
ECC Supported by Processor: No

Graphics
CUDA: Yes
On-board Graphics Model: Intel HD Graphics
Dedicated graphics model: 2x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 in SLi composite
Dedicated graphics memory Type: GDDR5
Built-in graphics adapter: Yes
On-board graphics adapter Base frequency: 350 MHz
Maximum dynamic frequency of the on-board graphics adapter: 1100 MHz
Separate graphics adapter memory: 2x 8 GB
NVIDIA G-SYNC: Yes
NVIDIA GameWorks VR: Yes
Number of supported displays (On-Board Graphics): 3
On-Board Graphics Adapter DirectX Version: 12 0
On-Board Graphics Adapter OpenGL Version: 4 4
Separate Graphics Adapter: Yes

Spoiler: ...Details

Memory
Internal Storage Type : DDR4-SDRAM
Memory Form Factor : SO-DIMM RAM: 4x 16GB

Storage Media
Compatible Memory Cards : SD
Total Storage Capacity: 1000GB
Integrated Card Reader: Yes
SSD Storage Capacity: 2x 512GB
Storage Media: SSD

Audio
Built-in Microphone: Yes
Number of Built- in Speakers: 2 Built-in Audio Decoder: Dolby

Camera
Front Camera : Yes

Optical Drive
Optical Drive Type: Blu-ray ReWriter

Network
WLAN Standards: IEEE 802 11ac
Bluetooth Version: 4 2
Built-in Ethernet Port : Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
WLAN: Yes
Ethernet LAN Data Transfer Rates: 10,100,1000 Mbps
3G: No
4G: No

Ports and Interfaces
Number of Ethernet LAN ports (RJ-45): 1
Microphone Input: No
DC Port: Yes
DVI Port: No
Number of HDMI Ports: 1
Docking Connector: No
HDMI Version: 2 0
number of Mini display ports: 1
Combined headphone / microphone port: Yes
USB 3.0 (3.1 Gen 1): 5

keyboard
input device: touchpad
Windows keys: Yes
Numeric keypad: Yes
keyboard with backlight: Yes

operating system / software
pre-instalation Allied Operating System: Windows 10 Home
Operating System Architecture: 64-Bit

Battery
Battery Technology : Lithium Polymer 8 Cells

Power
Power Adapter : Yes

Security
Cable Lock Slot: Yes
Slot Type Cable Barrier: Kensington

 

Ooh, well, sorry for that, didnt see the gpu specs!

 

gsync but no new panel?

 

Yeah, an ongoing disappointment for many, but for me 1080p is still the sweet spot. And, it OC's to 100hz+, so it's a nice fit.

A new 18.4" panel is going to cost big bucks...IDK when MSI is going to do it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

A nice external monitor would be something to get to let the 1080 SLI stretch it's legs. For my eyes 4k needs at least a 27" display, so until that can be folded into a laptop, I'm fine with 1080p @ 18.4".

IDK if I need 200hz @ 1080p 18.4", but it might be fun to try.

I wonder if MSI will make a single 1080 model of the GT83 this generation?

 

At this price, MSI should be offering a similar display to the one ASUS has on the GX800 series...


Question I have is will they be selling any models without drives/markups?
Gsync now compatible with SLI?
Kind of odd they would be releasing an interim model between GPU generations like this. Was hoping for 8th gen + new SLI Scaling tech from Nvidia and possibly a 2xxx series card... Maybe the specs sheet will get updated closer to launch?

 

Asus has that 4k 18.4" 60hz display, which is nice I suppose, but for me I'd end up needed to drop the resolution down to 1440p, or scale the 4k to 225%, so it's not worth it to overtax the CPU / GPU to deliver 4k, only to not be able to read text / menu's without scaling to 225%.

The Asus 18.4" display is unique to Asus, so MSI can't use it.

From what it sounds like so far, unless they are being really coy, Nvidia has no plan to ship the next generation GPU (desktop) for a while yet, and the mobile parts are a mystery - MaxQ2? - IDK how much more power they will need to double performance this time.

It could be this time next year before we see mobile next gen GPU's...

 

Not completely true.
7820HK model actually exists.
Seems to be only in India. Anyone seen this version outside of India ?

https://www.amazon.in/MSI-GT83VR-7R...=1520778843&ref=plSrch&ref_=mp_s_a_1_1&sr=8-1

Too bad it won't overclock worth crap. One Zener diode=bad game horribly played.

 

It looks like Canada had/has a GT83 7820hk model too

MSI GT83VR 18.4" Gaming Laptop - Black (Intel Core i7-7820HK/1TB HDD/512GB SSD/32GB RAM/Windows 10) - Online Only
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/produc...d-512gb-ssd-32gb-ram-windows-10/12064499.aspx

 

*flies to India*
Buys laptop
*comes back*


"This is the 5.5kg gold nugget I found in India"
*presents laptop*