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    Intel Core i7-8750H/ i7-8850H/ i9-8950H Coffee Lake

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by sicily428, Nov 18, 2017.

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    World 1st Review Intel Core i7 8750H ( 6 core, 12 threads ) by Gigabyte Aero 15X ( i7-8750H + GTX1070MQ +144Hz IPS)


    CREDIT : GenTechPC
     
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    Ahhh, just after 12am, and embargo must be lifted, here the 6c/12t laptop CPU models come :)

    Gigabyte Aero 15 preview: A 6-core beast with a 144Hz screen


    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    In this video Gordon Mah Ung walks us through the updated Gigabyte Aero 15, one of his favorite gaming laptops of last year. Featuring Intel's new 6-core Coffee Lake Core i7 8750H with a base clock of 2.2 GHz and up to 4.1 GHz, and is even unlocked for overclocking! Other features include a full Nvidia GTX 1060 and a 144Hz high refresh rate screen.
    Hands-on with MSI's GS65

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    ROG G703 - A Gaming Beast with Factory-Overclocked Intel® Core™ i9 Processor | ROG

    Absolute Precision - ROG Strix SCAR Edition (8th Gen Intel® Processor) | ROG
     
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    Whew!! The Non-disclosure is finally over...all the new models with Intel 8th Gen "Coffee Lake" are now available for Pre-Order...shipping begins on the 16th.
     
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    MSI GE Raider RGB intel 8th Gen Coffee Lake, nVidia GTX1070 Detailed Review & Benchmarks

    Published on Apr 2, 2018
    The new Raider has arrived from MSI.
    Product Page: https://www.gentechpc.com/searchresul...

    Todays video takes a in depth view of all the new hardware, interfaces and features to help you determine if this is the laptop for you.

    Powerfull new CPU hardware from Intel with a 6 core 8th Generation i7 8750H

    A 120HZ Refresh rate LCD screen for gamers, and 94% color gamut for those who care about the quality of the image.
    It’s thin and light for a full 17” laptop and offers a solid spot in those seeking a good price vs performance ratio for those seeking features offered here.

    Phone: 1.800.990.7945
    Email: [email protected]
     
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    https://hexus.net/tech/items/laptop/116798-msi-unveils-new-line-gaming-laptops/

    A list of MSI Laptops^^

    https://www.msi.com/news/detail/-UF...H9vr087Wk0l6OQ1aDfunpRVT__r7GysBEzPkzZbXc5g~~

    MSI Flagships -- First Laptops with i9 Processors^^

    GT75 Page: https://www.msi.com/Landing/GT75_Titan_8RX
     
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    Looks Like the new GT83 has a CHEERY Keyboard :eek:
     
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    [​IMG]

    8th Gen Intel® Core™ processors: Designed for what’s coming next.
    https://www.msi.com/Landing/GT75_Titan_8RX
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    GT83 Titan 8RG
    https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT83-Titan-8RG/Specification

    CPU - Up to 8th Gen. Intel® Core™ i9 Processor - Global MSI models.

    So a number of MSI and other laptops will have the unlocked i9-8950HK :)

    More reports and details are needed but the 8750H is reported by Gordon Mah Ung as being OC'able:
    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    In this video Gordon Mah Ung walks us through the updated Gigabyte Aero 15, one of his favorite gaming laptops of last year. Featuring Intel's new 6-core Coffee Lake Core i7 8750H with a base clock of 2.2 GHz and up to 4.1 GHz, and is even unlocked for overclocking! Other features include a full Nvidia GTX 1060 and a 144Hz high refresh rate screen.

    And, reports of the 8850H being OC'able as well. :)
     
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    The Core i9 Laptops Have Arrived
     
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    Why do you say such things when if you followed the links I provided you would see it plain as day :)

    GT83 Titan 8RG
    https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GT83-Titan-8RG/Specification

    CPU - Up to 8th Gen. Intel® Core™ i9 Processor

    So a number of MSI and other laptops will have the i9-8950HK :)
     
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    So ummm how much is intel planning on marking up these units for the i9.. cough.. i mean "unlocked i7"
     
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    If you looked at my other posts you would see reviewers reporting that the 8750H is also "overclockable", IDK if that is just the multiplier, or other features, so there may be an OC'able i7 and an unlocked i9.

    More reports and details are needed but the 8750H is reported by Gordon Mah Ung as being OC'able:
    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    In this video Gordon Mah Ung walks us through the updated Gigabyte Aero 15, one of his favorite gaming laptops of last year. Featuring Intel's new 6-core Coffee Lake Core i7 8750H with a base clock of 2.2 GHz and up to 4.1 GHz, and is even unlocked for overclocking! Other features include a full Nvidia GTX 1060 and a 144Hz high refresh rate screen.

    And, now reports from Aorus that the 8850H is also OC'able. :)
     
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    AORUS X9 X5 V8 Laptop Review


    AORUS X9 DT V8 Laptop


    Feature
    World's Fastest 8th Gen. Intel® Core™i9-8950HK Overclockable Processor (2.9~4.8Ghz)
    NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 GDDR5X 8GB
    World's Thinnest Chassis with True Laptop Mechanical Switches
    World’s First 17.3” Laptop With Quad Fans - This is not true - P570WM is the 1st.
    17.3" FHD 1920x1080 144Hz IPS Anti-Glare Display
    Exotic Design with Maximum Aluminum Coverage
    X-Rite™ Pantone® Certified Display
    Tri-Storage : Up to 2X PCI-E Gen 3 NVMe SSDs and 1X 2TB HDD
    DDR4 2666Hz: Up to 64GB
    Quad Ports: Thunderbolt 3, USB3.1 Type C, MiniDisplayPort 1.4
    ESS Sabre Hi-Fi Audio DAC
    Quad Audio: 2X speakers 2X Woofers
    Unique central Multifunctional RGB HUD Lightbar and Chassis RGB Fusion Lighting
    AORUS RGB Fusion: 16.7 million Per-Key RGB Backlighting
    Multi External Display Support: 3 Surround Display
    Versatile Fan Control | 15 Stage Deep Fan Control
    Xsplit + TriDef: Stream Like a Pro
    Killer DoubleShot Pro: Optimized Gaming Network
    Dolby Atmos® Audio
    AORUS Exclusive: International 1+1 Year Warranty
    Game in a Greener Environment With Decomposable Packaging
    *The color option of the AORUS trackpad logo may vary. Please contact the point of purchase or reseller for more information.
     
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    https://wccftech.com/intel-8th-gen-coffee-lake-h-notebook-cpu-lineup-launch/
     
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    The Core i9 Laptops Have Arrived
    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    With 6 cores, the new Intel Core i9 gaming laptops pack some serious power.
     
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    Intel Launches 8th Gen Coffee Lake-H Family For High-Performance Notebooks – Core i9-8950HK Flagship With 6 Cores, 12 Threads and Up To 4.8 GHz Clocks at 45W
    By Hassan Mujtaba, April 3, 2018
    https://wccftech.com/intel-8th-gen-coffee-lake-h-notebook-cpu-lineup-launch/

    "Intel has officially launched their 8th gen high-performance notebook processors. The latest series aims to take the performance bar even higher for Intel in the mobility space with higher cores, faster clocks and a feature rich platform designed around fast storage and memory solutions.

    Intel’s 8th Gen Coffee Lake-H ‘High-Performance’ Notebook Processors Launched – First To Feature Core i9 and 6 Cores on Mobility Devices
    Today is the day when we finally get to see what Intel has been cooking secretly for the notebook market. Over the last couple of years, Intel’s mainstream and mobile lineup was stuck with 4 cores and 8 threads in flagship part. This changed with the 8th generation family which brought a core bump to the desktop lineup last year. Now, Intel is bringing the same core bump over to the high-performance notebook sector which has become a slightly heated space due to the resurgence of AMD and their mainstream Ryzen processors.

    Today’s announcement is a full fledged lineup which is part of the Intel Coffee Lake-H family. These products not only include the Core series processors but Intel’s Xeon class workstation chips are also launching today. The notebook Core lineup tackles various market segments such as Enthusiast Gaming, Content Creation, VR/MR, Mega-Tasking, Data Analysis, Business on the Go and work station tasks. Some key features of the Coffee Lake-H lineup include:
    • First Intel Core i9 and 6-Core Processor Laptops
    • Highest Mobile Performance with New Intel Thermal Velocity Boost
    • New Mobile Intel 300 Series Chipset With Enhanced Audio and I/O
    • New Integrated Intel Wireless-AC With Gigabit Throughput
    • New High Speed Integrated USB 3.1 Gen2 (10 Gb/s)
    • First Intel Optane Memory Laptop Solution
    • Optimized For The Latest Discrete Graphics and Thunderbolt 3
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    Intel’s Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB) Functionality
    The Intel Thermal Velocity Boost feature is supported by the Intel Core i9-8950HK and Xeon E-2186M processors. It is designed to increase performance of both, multi-threaded and single-threaded workloads. The maximum core frequency is achieved while the processors is at a temperature of 50C or lower and turbo power budget is available. Frequencies are expected to reduce over time as the processor temperature increases.
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    Intel Coffee Lake-H Notebook Processor Lineup and Specifications
    Coming to the lineup, the 8th generation Coffee Lake-H family has a total of seven processors. Two of these are Xeon models while the rest are Core models. All of the processors are based on the 14nm++ process node and feature support for Intel Optane memory while the new 300-series chipset also adds integrated Giga bit Wi-Fi which is capable of being up to 2 times faster than standard wireless LAN connections.
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    Intel Core i7 6 Core / 12 Thread and Core i5 4 Core/ 8 Thread Coffee Lake-H Parts Squeeze More Performance Into Notebooks
    The other SKUs include the Core i7-8850H which falls right below the Core i9. This is also a 6 core, 12 thread part but lacks the Core i9 branding. The reason is that it has partial overclocking support and will feature lower clock speeds. The chip has 9 MB of L3 cache compared to full 12 MB on the i9 SKU and will feature clock speeds of 2.60 GHz base, 4.0 GHz boost (all core) and 4.3 GHz (one core boost). The other 6 core, 12 thread part is the Core i7-8750H which comes with the same specs as the Core i7-8850H but has clock speeds of 2.20 GHz base, 3.9 GHz (all core) and 4.2 GHz (one core boost).

    There are also two quad core parts with 8 threads. These include the Core i5-8400H and Core i5-8300H. Both feature 8 MB of L3 cache and the former features clock speeds of 2.5 GHz base, 4.1 GHz (All core) and 4.2 GHz (one core boost) while the latter features clock speeds of 2.30 GHz base, 3.9 GHz (All core) and 4.0 GHz (one core boost) frequencies. All chips in the Coffee Lake-H lineup will include the Intel UHD 630 graphics chip which will be clocked at 1100 MHz. All chips will ship with a 45W TDP while the flagship parts will be configurable down to 35W.
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    When it comes to performance numbers, Intel is saying a 29% overall performance boost for the Core i9 compared to a 7th Gen Core i7 H-series flagship chip. It’s also up to 41% better in gaming performance and game streaming performance is said to be 32% better. Content creation which benefits from increased core count will yield up to 59% better results during 4K video editing. The core bump for notebook platforms has been long awaited and we finally have some capable performance tier mobile solutions in the market."
     
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    World’s 1st 144Hz thin bezel gaming laptop - GS65 Stealth Thin | MSI


    LIGHT’EM UP! GE Raider RGB Edition | MSI
    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    MSI lights up the gaming battlefield with the new GE Raider RGB Edition gaming laptops!
    http://msi.gm/2I94X47 <== 8th gen i7
     
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    3 fans in that sucker? Seems a bit overkill? I mean its still as thick as a quarter is tall....
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    Intel’s i9-8950HK CPUs in Laptops at 6C/12T, 4.8GHz
    By Steve Burke Published April 03, 2018 at 3:12 am
    https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3276-intel-i9-hedt-cpus-now-in-laptops-6c12t

    "Intel has migrated its new i9 processor family to the portable market, or semi-portable, anyway. The i9-8950HK is an unlocked, overclockable 6C/12T laptop CPU, capable of turbo boosting to 4.8GHz when power and thermal budget permits.

    The new i9-8950HK runs at a base clock of 2.9GHz, with single-core turbo boosting to 4.8GHz. We are unclear on what the all-core turbo boost max frequency is, but it’s clearly lower. TDP is rated at 45W, though note that this is more a measure of the cooling requirements and not the actual power consumption; that said, Intel’s TDP ratings almost always explicitly coincide with power consumption numbers. The 8950HK will move away from the quad-channel support of its desktop brethren, and instead move down to dual-channel memory at a base frequency of 2666MHz. Unlocked motherboards should theoretically permit higher memory speeds, though we are uncertain of the market options at this time.

    Cache is also a major point of differentiation, with the i9 including 12MB combined cache, versus the 9MB of i7 and i5 portable offerings.

    Alongside the 8950HK, Intel is also shipping an i7-8750H, i7-8850H, and Xeon CPUs (2186M and 2176M). The Xeon CPUs are 6C/12T parts that operate at 2.9/4.8GHz and 2.7/4.4GHz, respectively. TDP remains 45W for both of these parts.

    Gigabyte is one of the launch partners, and has announced the following SKUs:

    SKU - Short Description - MSRP (April)

    X5 v8-CL4D - 15.6" FHD 144Hz IPS i7-8850H GTX 1070 GDDR5 8GB DDR4-2666 8GB x2 PCIe NVMe 512GB x1 HDD 1TB G-SYNC Win10 - $2,599

    X7 DT v8-CL4D - 17.3" FHD 144Hz IPS i7-8850H GTX 1080 GDDR5X 8GB DDR4-2666 8GB x2 PCIe NVMe 512GB x1 HDD 1TB G-SYNC Win10 - $2,999

    X9 DT-CL5M - 17.3" FHD 144Hz IPS i9-8950HK GTX 1080 GDDR5X 8GB DDR4-2666 16GB x2 PCIe NVMe 1TB HDD 1TB G-SYNC Win10 - $3,899

    We are presently unsure if we’ll be testing these parts.

    Editorial: Steve Burke"
     
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    Asus ROG G703 refreshed with unlocked Coffee Lake-H Core i9-8950HK CPU
    by Allen Ngo, 2018/04/03
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-...offee-Lake-H-Core-i9-8950HK-CPU.292694.0.html
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    Asus ROG G703 refreshed with unlocked Coffee Lake-H Core i9-8950HK CPU (Image source: Asus)

    "The Intel Core i9 for mobile has arrived and it brings native Optane support to gaming laptops for the first time. Asus has internally refreshed its powerful 17.3-inch gaming notebook to take advantage of the faster Turbo Boost, faster DDR4-2666 RAM, and Optane memory options. The chassis and core hardware features remain identical.

    The Asus ROG G703 is one of the largest 17.3-inch gaming notebooks in the market at just over 50 mm thick. Thus, it was only natural for Asus to up the ante and upgrade the system to Intel's recently announced 8th gen Core i9 CPU to cement it as a flagship offering for gamers.

    The unlocked hexa-core Core i9-8950HK carries a base clock rate of 2.9 GHz with single-core Turbo Boost of up to 4.8 GHz under the same 45 W TDP as the Core i7-7820HK. Note that the base clock rate of the new Coffee Lake-H CPU is the same as the Kaby Lake CPU it replaces but with a significantly higher single-core Turbo Boost (4.8 GHz vs. 3.9 GHz). Intel is able to achieve this through its new "Thermal Velocity Boost" feature that safely elevates Turbo Boost to even higher clock rates than usual. From our experience with most notebooks, however, such high clock rates are unsustainable and only attainable for a few seconds at best due to cooling restraints. Intel could have easily called its new processor the "Core i7-8950HK", but the "Core i9" moniker is simply more distinct for marketing purposes.

    Other than clock rate differences, the i9-8950HK introduces native support for Intel Optane memory and two channels of DDR4-2666 RAM whereas the i7-7820HK "only" supports up to DDR4-2400. Consequently, Asus will be offering the refreshed ROG G703 with faster RAM, Optane memory, and new 144 Hz display options.

    The refreshed system is otherwise visually identical to the existing ROG G703. We recommend checking out our review on the outgoing G703 for more information on the notebook. The G703 with Core i9 is scheduled for launch by late April to early May and it will compete directly against the MSI GT75 and Alienware 17 in the Core i9 enthusiast gaming space."
     
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    [UNBOX] The New AERO 14 with the Latest 8th Gen Intel Core i7 CPU
    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    Gaming performance with ultrabook profile: introducing the new AERO 14 with all new 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-8750H processor.


    [UNBOX+Review] The New AERO 15/15X with the Latest 8th Gen Intel Core i7 CPU

    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    Introducing the new generation AERO 15 / AERO 15X with all new 8th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-8750H processor and NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060/1070 graphics.


    Gigabyte Aero 15x v8 Laptop Review - 6 core i7 8750H / 144hz IPS


    Published on Apr 3, 2018
    Today Leo takes a look at the Gigabyte Aero 15x v8 - a powerful thin and light laptop featuring some powerful hardware - a new 6 core Intel core i7 8750H processor, Nvidia GTX 1070 Max Q graphics card, and a 144hz high refresh panel. Is it the stuff of dreams, or is it too loud and hot? Leo breaks down all of Gigabyte's design decisions. Its £2,200 so it really does need to deliver the goods. Read full review over on www.kitguru.net here: https://goo.gl/J9G4GH
     
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    Unfortunately, you won't see the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK in the GT83 Titan in the USA market. It will be interesting to see what Regions, if any, actually ship it with the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK.
     
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    The GT75 with the 8950HK and a 1080 will be what most people want, but it is disappointing that MSI has dropped the top CPU model GT83 from import into the US for 2 generations in a row, hopefully that trend changes.

    Possibly an enterprising provider such as yourself can procure what someone wants and import it?

    The Global site lists the i9 as an option, and the posts I made previously suggest the countries that will be offering it, so I hope you find some for us.

    The US site has a different CPU altogether for the GT83, the Intel Core i7-8850H 2.6 - 4.3GHz...I wonder if that will be OC'able, and what kind of performance it can deliver?:
    https://us.msi.com/Laptop/GT83-Titan-Intel-8th-Gen/Specification

    The GT83 still comes with 2x330w PSU's for the 1080 SLI and 2x230w for the 1070 SLI, I was hoping for a single PSU solution, but perhaps that will come with the GT85 in the future? :)

    Intel Core™ i7-8850H Processor, 9M Cache, up to 4.30 GHz
    https://ark.intel.com/products/134899/Intel-Core-i7-8850H-Processor-9M-Cache-up-to-4_30-GHz

    Intel Core i7-8850H
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-8850H-SoC.275940.0.html
     
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    I wonder if Intel will update that to show the proper price for the Intel® Core™ i7-8850H.
     
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    Due to warranty constraints, we only offer what MSI USA offers.
     
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    Interesting, these new 8th Generation "U" CPU's are getting the 128MB EDRAM upgrade, that helped boost performance in my old GT80 Broadwell 5950HQ, I wonder how much of a boost at the lower TDP of 28w will make?

    Intel Unveils Coffee Lake-U Processors Iris Plus Graphics, Up To 128 MB eDRAM and Much Higher Boost Clocks
    By Hassan Mujtaba, April 3, 2018
    https://wccftech.com/intel-8th-gen-coffee-lake-u-iris-plus-graphics-cpus-launch/

    "Intel has also unveiled their latest Coffee Lake-U parts which feature Iris Plus graphics. These new mainstream mobility processors pack the flagship Intel GPU solution with faster performance and even more on-package embedded DRAM which makes for a formidable solution for sleek laptops.

    Intel’s Iris Plus Graphics With 128 MB eDRAM Cache Integrates Within New Coffee Lake-U Mainstream Mobile CPUs
    The new Intel Coffee Lake-U lineup is made up of four chips and have nothing do with the existing Coffee Lake-U parts. The new parts will be priced at a slight premium due to the better specs and would ultimately deliver faster graphics performance.
    [​IMG]
    Intel themselves are mentioning some key features of these chips which include the following:
    • Up To 4 cores, 8 threads
    • Intel Iris Plus Graphics
    • New Mobile Intel 300 Series chipset With Enhanced Audio and I/O
    • New Integrated Intel Wireless-AC With Gigabit Throughput
    • New High Speed Integrated USB 3.1 Gen2 (10 Gb/s)
    • First Intel Optane Memory Laptop Solution
    • More On-Package eDRAM (128 MB)
    The one thing that stands out from the rest is the increased eDRAM size of 128 MB. We have seen previous parts with 64 MB eDRAM cache but this is almost twice the size which along with the 48 execution units clocked at above 1.1 GHz will deliver a great graphics performance jump. In terms of specifications, the flagship part is the Core i7-8559U which features 4 cores and 8 threads. The chip has a base clock of 2.7 GHz and boosts all the way up to 4.5 GHz. There’s 8 MB of L3 cache on the CPU and it supports dual channel memory running at DDR4-2400 spec.
    [​IMG]
    The chip has a TDP of 28W which is true for every other Iris Plus Coffee Lake-U part. Rest of the SKUs can be seen in the table below:"
    upload_2018-4-3_2-12-12.png
     
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    I've put in a question to MSI about that, hoping for a favorable response, coverage with a MSI Global Warranty when sold / imported out of a non-USA site.

    I suppose people in non-USA lands import USA models and use the MSI Global Warranty, so maybe we can do that too.

    I also complained about this being the 2nd generation of GT83's to not get HK CPU's, which makes no sense.
     
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    The reason MSI USA is not offering the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK in the GT83VR is...they do not feel comfortable with its ability to manage the temps. I doubt they will change their mind on that...mostly because as we will see, it is a good decision.
     
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    Are you quoting someone at MSI? Did you ask MSI this directly and this is what they said? Was this a sales and marketing person, or an engineer?

    It makes no sense to design and create the 8950HK version of the GT83, as MSI did the GT83 7820HK, and then not import them into the US. Designing upgraded CPU cooling components would be part of the build for a new model, and must perform within acceptable thermal performance no matter where it is sold.

    It's more likely MSI are trying to keep the price down, and profits up in one of MSI's largest markets. While the MSI Engineers closer to home ship what they want, including the highest performance CPU models.

    This oddity might also be part of the deal with Intel to ship models with all of the new CPU's, and the 8850H needs a place to be installed.

    As I recall the last time the HK CPU was in the GT83 those units all sold out, and the 6920HQ models still linger on... MSI probably doesn't want that to happen again. One CPU SKU only eliminates that possibility.
     
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    This comes from the President of MSI USA.

    It is more likely they are trying to keep the warranty claims down, not the price.

    Let's wait to see the temps of a GT83 with the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK...then you will understand it is not a conspiracy lead by MSI USA marketing and sales, but rather a good decision based on sound judgement.
     
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    MSI makes business decisions based on profit, being able to sell through all sku's produced and imported, vs offering their highest performance product in the USA, that's what I am suggesting.

    What you appear to be suggesting is that MSI is foisting poor thermal performance GT83 8950HK / 7820HK models in other countries, and that MSI can't get away with doing that here in the USA?

    The Dragon Gaming Center will OC CPU and GPU, and that will be one level of OC to see reported from the typical reviewers.

    Let's hope experienced OC'ers that undervolt and know how to tune for performance and thermals report in too, not only reviewers that won't do either.

    I think the GT83 8950HK OC will perform just fine, otherwise MSI wouldn't be shipping it, anywhere. :)
     
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    That is quite a limb upon which you have climbed.

    Better to wait to see actual results...that limb will most likely break.

    We don't actually know that it will be shipped anywhere yet. The MSI global website is well known for its flaws.
     
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    Alienware uploaded a teaser on YOutube, probably an announcement at PAX this week.

    Curious how they will be configured and perform. First benchmarks based on the AERO15 laptops show not that much improvement in gaming. But there are benefits in productivity applications.
     
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    N850EP6 144Hz~5ms - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
    N850EK1 120Hz~3ms - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti
    P950EP6 144Hz~5ms - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
    P950ER 120Hz~3ms - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q
    P955ER 144Hz~5ms - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q
    PA71EP6-G 144Hz~9ms - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
    PA71ES-G 144Hz~9ms - nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070

    Specifications may change without notice. None of the Clevo Intel 8th Gen "Coffee Lake" models will be available until late April / Early May

    Please quote this in your other thread.
     
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    The 7820HK's in GT83 performance reports have been fine, and should have been shipped in the US.

    MSI has always done a good job of creating / designing engineering solutions for new thermal challenges, not just in the GT8x series, but also in all their models.

    That's why I am comfortable saying that I expect that the MSI GT83 and GT75 will perform well with their 8950HK's, stock and unlocked OC.

    These are new 6c/12t CPU's in new models, so improvements in performance over time is to expected - but I don't think MSI is going to ship the 8950HK anywhere, in anything, until they are happy with the performance.

    Given the 7820HK worked fine in both the GT83 and GT73/75, I think this is MSI USA optimizing their sku's for profit and sell through in the USA, rather than MSI being worried about failing 7820HK / 8950HK in GT83's, or failing 8950HK's / 7820HK's in GT73's / GT75's anywhere.
     
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    Are any of the Clevo 8th Gen laptop CPU models getting a GTX 1080, single or SLI? What about the 8th Gen CPU sku for each model? Or are they all i7-8750H's?
     
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    Well, opinions are like bellybuttons.

    GT83 will not ship with the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK in the USA market.

    GT75 will ship with the Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK in the USA market.
     
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    No nVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080, and all Intel® Core™ i7-8750H.

    Kind of surprising actually.

    But: Specifications may change without notice. None of the Clevo Intel 8th Gen "Coffee Lake" models will be available until late April / Early May
     
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    No p650? may be a case refresh?
     
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    Aorus X9 DT-CL5M 17.3" 144 Hz Intel Core i9 8th Gen 8950HK (2.90 GHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 32 GB Memory 1 TB SSD 1 TB HDD Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Gaming Laptop - $3899
    Release Date: 4/17/2018. Limit 2 per customer <== :D
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834725057
    • GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB GDDR5X
    • Intel Core i9 8th Gen 8950HK (2.90 GHz)
    • 32 GB Memory 1 TB HDD 1 TB SSD
    • 17.3" 1920 x 1080 IPS 144 Hz anti-glare display support NVIDIA G-SYNC
    • 16.90" x 12.40" x 0.90"-1.20" 7.92 lbs.
    • 1 x Thunderbolt 3, 1 x Mini DisplayPort 1 x HDMI 2.0
    • 3 x USB 3.1 Type-A
    • 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 Type-C
    Thanks to @GTVEVO !
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/aorus-x9-availability.814990/page-2#post-10705364
     
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    No, nothing new for the P650
     
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