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    Intel Mobile Processor Compatibility Guide

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Commander Wolf, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Sony VGN-SR25G has as GM45 chipset. It will support a E8435, T9900 or X9100 (E0 recommended). The F40E bios is for a HDX9000 so of course it won't flash on your Sony.

    Figuring out the PLL in your system and if it's programmable could be the way to get a faster CPU and in some cases an overclocked pci-e bus. Click the PLL pinmod link in my sig if you wish to explore that.
     
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    I tried in on a HP probook4310s instead and got that error.

    Alright. I'll try the PLL method first before considering on purchasing the cpu.
     
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    SN5507 Newbie

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    Hi can any one provide information . ACER Aspire 5720,T5250 processor,1.5GHz 667 MHz FSB,2MB L2 Cache,358MB mobile Graphics media.looking for processor upgrade.compatible processor Is T9300 is a suitable option?
    Thanks in advance
    SN
     
  4. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    What chipset do you have? I presume it should be ok since you already have a T5250, but if you have a GL960, it might be a crapshot.
     
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    The T9300 works in the Acer Aspire 4315. This laptop has the same chipset as yours so you should be fine. If you've already purchased the T9300 just install it and see what happens. If you didn't purchase it, you could try a cheaper CPU first to confirm that your laptop support FSB 800. The T7300 is very cheap so you can try with it first. It is also a very good and capable CPU. Unless you're doing CPU intensive tasks you wont notice the difference between a T7300 and a T9300 :). The only difference you'll notice is in the price :)

    Don't forget to upgrade the BIOS to the latest one you can find in Acer's website before doing the CPU swap.
     
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    GL40/GM40 supports intel T4500 as well as T8300/9300 (toshiba/acer)
     
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    behind_da_sun Newbie

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    I recently tried to upgrade a sk m 478 laptop processor t2400 with t7500 and it did not fit, even though on intel they have the same socket name and are both M. The missing pins are vertical on one and horizontal on the other

    Its an old 17 inch inspirion
     
  8. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    T7500 is not socket m, it's socket p.
     
  9. naton

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    you can upgrade the following CPUs
    T5200 - T5300 - T5600 - T7200 - T7400 - T7600.

    Edit:
    Socket M and P are physically the same but their wiring is different.
     
  10. DylRicho

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    Hey guys,

    I'm fairly experienced with computers although I'm a little unfamiliar with CPUs. I saw this thread and noticed that it was still receiving replies, so I want to ask my question here. :)

    I have an ASUS X58L AP020A (not X58Le), currently with a Celeron M 575 processor. It uses the GM965 chipset according to Intel's system information and chipset identification utilities (although ASUS's website and CPU-Z incorrectly state a GL960 chipset.)

    I want to upgrade the CPU and have been doing a lot of research over the past 8-9 months. I understand that certain aspects of the CPU must match (socket, FSB speed, chipset support and the TDP), and I've narrowed my list down to a few CPUs that I have in mind.

    I'm unsure of the X58L's maximum TDP, although it must be at least 35W to accept the T5900 which is listed on ASUS's website. Ideally, I really would like the T9500 (or X9000) as I want to update my system to keep it on-pair with low-end Core i3/i5s. The laptop is used for graphics and web design, using Photoshop and Notepad++, amongst the more common tasks.

    Here is my narrowed-down list:

    - Intel Core 2 Extreme X9000 (2.80GHz, 6MB, 800MHz FSB, 44W, 45NM)
    - Intel Core 2 Duo T9500 (2.60GHz, 6MB, 800MHz FSB, 35W, 45NM)
    - Intel Core 2 Duo T5900 (2.20GHz, 2MB, 800MHz FSB, 35W, 65NM)
    - Intel Core 2 Duo T5850 (2.10GHz, 2MB, 667MHz FSB, 34W, 65NM)
    - Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 (2.00GHz, 2MB, 800MHz FSB, 35W, 65NM)

    I appreciate the help. :)
    Dylan.

    Edit

    Oh, I forgot to ask - does it matter if ASUS's website doesn't list a CPU as compatible? I've asked several people about that and they just told me that as long as the socket, FSB speed, chipset and TDP are supported, it should work. I'm sceptical though.
     
  11. DylRicho

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    Also, the Celeron M 575 is a Merom-2M CPU.
     
  12. DylRicho

    DylRicho Notebook Consultant

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    Can anyone help me?
     
  13. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    If you really have the 965 chipset you should at least be able to use all the Socket P Merom CPUs if not the Penryn ones as well. I'd be a little wary of the Intel utility, though, if Asus and CPUZ are saying 960.

    I say get something cheap like a T7700 or a T8300 and just try it. You're not out too much if it doesn't work.
     
  14. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Yup, try not to spend too much on this generation of hardware. Maybe ~$30 should be sufficient for a decent boost.
     
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    zloetakoe Newbie

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    Hey everyone. This thread is unbelievable. Answered all my questions that I have about swapping out the CPU on my

    hp 550
    celeron 550 2.0gHz
    1gb ram
    chipset UNKNOWN!!!!!!

    Now, if I could just find out what chipset I really have. According to AIDA64, I have a GLE960. According to DXDIAG and Crucial memory scanner I have a 965GM.
    ??????

    Is there any way to tell exactly what chipset I have without ripping my notebook apart? AIDA64 also tells me that my maximum memory allotment is 2GB although from everything I've read I should be able to fit 4gb and that's also what Crucial's scanner tells me as well.

    Slightly confused, looking forward to swapping out to a duo 2 core processor. I'd appreciate any help I can get.
     
  16. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    HP's spec page for the 550 indicates that there versions with the 965 and versions with the 960. Since yours came with the Celeron, I would assume you have the 960.

    HP 550 Notebook PC specifications - HP Small & Medium Business products

    Honestly, there isn't really a good way to tell next to reading the actual markings on the chipset. All of those software utilities have been wrong at some point or another.
     
  17. zloetakoe

    zloetakoe Newbie

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    Thanks CW,

    I opened up device manager in hopes that I could figure this out. Here's what I found.

    Mobile Intel(R) GME965/GLE960 Express Processor to DRAM controller - 2A10

    Why so confusing? Could this possibly be a hybrid 965/960?
     
  18. DylRicho

    DylRicho Notebook Consultant

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    Hello CW,

    I appreciate your response. I spoke with Intel support (live chat) and they told me to check for the chipset on my computer. Under DXDIAG, it lists the GM965 chipset. He also told me to check using this method: Right-click on desktop > Screen resolution > Advanced settings > Chip Type. That also lists the GM965 chipset.

    Also, the T9500 isn't much more expensive than the T8300. I'll be buying from eBay - pulled from a working machine. I'll also make sure that it can be returned if it doesn't work so I can be refunded.
     
  19. zloetakoe

    zloetakoe Newbie

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    Thanks. I used these same utilities and they all listed my chipset as the Intel Mobile 965. Guess I'll be looking for a GME965 compatable. And if it doesn't work try to get a refund.....
     
  20. DylRicho

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    If the method Intel gave me helped, you're welcome. :)

    Also, CW, do I need to worry about incompatibility BIOS-wise? My BIOS is AMI 203.

    I also spoke to ASUS regarding the chipset and they said that the specifications are for the older models. I luckily have one of the newer models. :)
     
  21. DylRicho

    DylRicho Notebook Consultant

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    Bump. Hello?
     
  22. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    You already seem to have the latest BIOS installed, so you should be fine.
     
  23. DylRicho

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    Okay, thank you. :)

    I appreciate everyone's input. I'll report back to say if it works or not (this will be towards October though).
     
  24. ridingdirty

    ridingdirty Newbie

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    First off thank you very much to all that have contributed to this thread. I have read it from page 1 to 48 and its good to see this topic being revised and answered correctly. Which leads me to my questions:

    I want to upgrade my HP DV6-1362nr cpu from a T6600 to T9600-9900, or a P series 8000 or 9000 fsb 1066mhz processor. These all have the same socket being a P 478. I have attached screenshots of cpu-z as a word document. Also here is a link to my laptop: Newegg.com - HP Pavilion dv6-1362nr NoteBook Intel Core 2 Duo T6600(2.20GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 7200rpm DVD Super Multi ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650

    Here are my questions:

    1. Can I use most any of the T series or P series processors I have listed above (kind of a given but I will ask anyway)?
    2. Even though I may be able to use the above processors will my mobo bottleneck the cpu processing speed increase? I have a fsb of 800 mhz now and want to go to 1066mhz as that is the farthest I think I can go.
    3. If my motherboard's fsb increases to 1066 mhz shouldn't my ram increase to 1066mhz as well provided I have bought ram capable of operating at that frequency?
    4. Even though the above processors thermal design power (tdp) is at or below my T6600 is that the only heat factor I need to look at? Or are these processors just that much more efficient?
    5. I do not recall reading if anyone threw a quadcore in a penryn socket p 478 with my chipset. This is a long shot, but is it doable and if so would it be better than a higher ghz dual core for gaming, programming, and surfing the web?

    Thank you very much!
     

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    ridingdirty Newbie

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    *Bump

    Did this thread get moved. I see it has not been active for a couple months.
     
  26. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    1,2: You have a PM45 chipset, so I think that any of the CPUs you listed should work without issue.
    3: Yeup.
    4: A higher clocked CPU can still run hotter even though the TDP is listed as the same.
    5: Maybe try a Google search. Quad cores seem to be picky. I think if your system wasn't offered with that configuration, it likely won't have the hardware to support it.

    Are you sure that you need to upgrade your CPU? Do you often experience 100% CPU load? I think that this would be unlikely for surfing the web and with gaming.
     
  27. ridingdirty

    ridingdirty Newbie

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    Thank you for the quick reply Namaiki. Coincidentally I found more evidence that confirms exactly what you said (see link in middle). I do hit my 2200mhz when gaming as a matter of fact. I checked my Northbridge chipset on the intel website and it does list a q9100 as compatible, however the TDP is 45 watts instead of the 35 I have now.

    Here is the link:

    ARK | Mobile Intel® PM45 Express Chipset (Intel® 82PM45 Memory Controller Hub)

    Then click on compatible products on the left hand side.

    I think adding that information (check the Northbridge chipset since that is the portion that communicates with the fsb and memory bus directly) to the beginning of the thread may be useful though I may have overlooked it and if so sorry about that.

    However now I have another question. Right now my laptop idles at 35-39 degrees celcius. If I throw a quadcore in and it does work is there any fan upgrade I can do to increase the tdp threshold?
     
  28. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Besides the chipset itself, there are other power requirements that need to be built into the laptop to support a quad core CPU which is why it would be good to check if others have installed a quad core CPU into the specific model that you have.
     
  29. Peon

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    I'm curious - can mobile Ivy Bridge CPUs be used as a drop-in replacement for Sandy Bridge laptops? There were pre-release rumors hinting at "no", but it doesn't seem like anyone has ever actually tried it.
     
  30. belzabub

    belzabub Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone enlighten me as to these meanings? Intels website and google don't reveal much but it just be I don't know what to ask... I find these are listed for a cpu i'm looking at purchasing, the T8100.....and these are listed on intel's website for that cpu without any explanation. SLAUU SLAYZ SLAP9 SLAYP SLAVJ
     
  31. belzabub

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    Hi, ran across your post and I'm wondering if I'm hoping too much. Trying to read up on this stuff to see if i can stick in a better processor in my acer 5315-2077...CPUID says chipset is

    Chipset
    Northbridge Intel GL960 rev. C0
    Southbridge Intel 82801HBM (ICH8-ME) rev. B1

    Windows reports it as
    Mobile Intel 965 Express

    Processor
    Name Intel Celeron M
    Codename Conroe-L
    Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 540 @ 1.86GHz
    Package (platform ID) Socket 479 mPGA (0x7)

    Can I stick in a T8100 in this ?
     
  32. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    I believe these are just different sspecs for different steppings of the chip. Some may sspecs for the BGA version(s) too.

    If you have GL960, it's always a crapshot. The only way to know for sure is to try it.

    If you actually have anything 965, it'll basically work for sure.
     
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    Thank you sir for the reply! But now I have more questions lol.

    Intel's Chipset Detection Utility Detected Chipset:
    Intel(R) GM965 Express Chipset


    1. Can I also see what chipset if I open the laptop up?

    2. Also, CPUID says : Intel Celeron M, so I have the M series? I'm assuming M from CPUID but I don't know! If M can I still stick in the T8100 P series? Or do I have to find an M?
     
  34. Coszmina

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    Hello, I have an Asus X59GL, Intel Celeron M560 2.13GHz socket P, motherboard F5GL with nvidia MCP79 chipset. I want to know if is possible to replace my CPU (celeron M) with Intel Core 2 Duo T7500. From what I know is that FSB for M560 is 533Mhz and for T7500 is 800, but I dont know if nvidia MCP79 supports FSB 800Mhz. Do not recommend me to use Cpu-z, because I don't use MS Windows, Unix user here.
    Thanks in advance!
     
  35. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    The best way to figure out if you have 960 or 965 is indeed to look at the markings on the NB itself. "Celeron M" is just a name. It has no bearing on what you can or can't use - that depends on the chipset and socket.

    Documentation on the Intel chipsets isn't amazing, but documentation on AMD and Nvidia chipsets is practically nonexistent. There's basically no way to know unless you try it.
     
  36. Coszmina

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    I writed to Asus support team and they recommanded that I can update from Celeron M560 to the following processors:
    1. Intel Penryn P7350 Processor
    2. Intel Merom T5900/T5800/T5850/T5750/T5550/T5450 Processor up to 667MHz FSB
    3. Intel T3400/T3200/T2390/T2370 Processor
    4. Intel Celeron Dual Core Procesor T1700/T1600/T1500
    5. Intel Celeron M Procesor (C-M 585/575/570/560).

    I'm not sure if the nvidia mcp79mvl (single chip solution) supports P8400. On Asus site at X59GL say that it's also supports P8400, but the guys from technical support not mention this processor.

    ASUS - Notebooks- ASUS F5GL
     
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    ridingdirty,

    Please keep me updated on your upgrade progress. I have the exact same laptop, and considering to upgrade my CPU. PM me if possible.
     
  38. PapaSmurf69

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    I believe the answer is yes, but I want to make sure before I go to the trouble of taking the laptop(s) apart. As long as the bios supports it (which can't be determined until I actually try it) a T3400, T6670, and T7500 should be interchangeable socket wise correct? GL40 chipset and DDR2-800 ram if that makes any difference.
     
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    Did you try the CPU and see if it worked?
     
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    I too have toshiba L300-145 with 960 chipset and happy with the upgrades that others have achieved.
    I have ordered a T8100 penryn and hope that it too will work as I current have a T2390 sk P CPU and 2x 1Gb ddr2 667 RAM.
    Will report back once I try it.
     
  41. fabiog

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    I received the T8100 and after a scare in the beginning when the laptop would switch on show bios and then switch off.
    I put back t2390 CPU entered bios and disabled dual core and dynamic switching then installed T8100 it booted to bios successfully then I reactivated the options I deactivated and works fine now.
    But I also think it could have been because I tested it without heatsink connected which is weird since the original cpu worked without the heatsink connected but then it also switched off so maybe heatsink had to be connected ,go figure.
     
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    If you don't have the cpu heatsink properly attached the cpu will overheat and hopefully shut down instead of burn out. Consider yourself lucky that you didn't fry your cpu altogether by starting it up without a heatsink attached. While it's isn't quite as big of a deal these days as it was a few years ago before they had thermal protection built into the cpu cores, it's still a HUGE no-no to fire one up without a heatsink.

    If I were you I spend a LOT more time doing your research before you attempt any future modifications or upgrades as it's obvious that you don't know what you are doing.
     
  43. PapaSmurf69

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    Well I picked up the T7500 for $10 US so I decided to go for it. Getting to the CPU was a pain in the butt with my arthritic fingers, but I was able to get it installed and running. Kind of disappointed in that the PC2-6400 ram is still only running at 667 instead of 800 like it should (although the FSB is running at 800 like it should. Speedstep appears to be functioning properly and temps are a couple C lower as I was able to clean out the heatsink a bit better. Performance doesn't seem to be much different, but I kinda expected that.

    VT was enabled in the bios by default which is one of the main reasons I went for it.

    The only major problem I am having now is the keyboard isn't working properly. Quite a few of the keys don't function at all including the Spacebar, Windows, right Shift, Backspace, w, p, f, h, k, l, x, v, 4, and 6. There might be a couple of others as well.I had tried the T7500 in an old eMachines E528 I had laying around as it has much easier access to the CPU than the Toshiba L305 and I didn't notice any problems with the keyboard on it so I'm thinking that either I messed up the keyboard, ribbon cable, or the motherboard during the swap (I had to completely pull the mobo on the L305 to get access to the CPU socket). I've tried disconnecting and reconnecting the ribbon cable several times and that hasn't changed anything.

    Aside from ordering another keyboard does anyone else have any ideas about that?

    And shouldn't switching from a 667fsb cpu to an 800fsb cpu prompted the PC2-6400 ram to run at 800? I do have the latest bios installed.

    Addendum: I don't have another keyboard from a similar Toshiba to test with, but I do have access to a Dell (of same vintage and chipset) and an older HP. Both have a similar layout. Do you think it's possible that one of them might work in the Toshiba long enough to see if that is the problem? I don't want to mess up either of those two laptops.
     
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    I was able to get the keyboard problem fixed, but the memory is still running at 667 instead of 800 and there is no manual setting in the bios for it. Tested the T7500 in an eMachines with the same GL40 chipset and the ram runs at 800 with it. Tested the ram in a Dell Vostro 1520 and it runs at 800. The eMachines uses DDR3 so I can't test the ram out of the Toshiba in it and the Dell requires more of a teardown to change the CPU (the eMachines has the CPU right out in the open when you take off the bottom ram/hard drive cover).

    I tried loading Setup Defaults in the bios and that didn't change anything. Since I know the CPU and the Ram is okay and I'm running the latest Bios on the Toshiba I'm leaning towards the CPU not being fully supported on the Toshiba. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
     
  45. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    Don't worry about it as you won't see any practical difference between 667MHz and 800MHz?

    My guess is it's just the Toshiba BIOS being a jerk, and that there probably isn't anything you can do about it.
     
  46. PapaSmurf69

    PapaSmurf69 Notebook Consultant

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    It very well may be the bios, but I am concerned about it as it WILL show a noticeable difference in performance. I've documented that numerous times over the past 20+ years. If I knock my desktop ram from 800 down to 667 you can really feel the difference, enough so that I refuse to not worry about it. Depending on what you are doing on a computer you can easily see (and measure) a good 30% decrease in performance (if not more) at the same CPU clock speed with the ram at 667 as opposed to 800.

    This may be a case where there is no viable way to force the bios to run the ram at 800, but it's definitely not something to just give up on.
     
  47. barracuda_8119

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    Hi all,

    I'm new here..I don't know whether I have to introduce myself in intro thread or not. Anyway, I'm from malaysia.
    This is such a helpfull review. My current D620 has 945GM chipset / Intel Core Duo T2300E / 4Gb RAM / 40Gb HD and etc,.
    I'm planning to upgrade the processor since it does not perform quick enough and heat up very fast (the performance worsen when it becomes very2 hot)
    I've got a quotation from local sellers on C2D T6600 , C2D T7400 and CD T2500.

    My questions to notebook guru's here;
    1. Does my D620 accept/recognize proc listed earlier without any problems?
    2. I've updated my BIOS to A10 (latest). Is there any configuration that I should make after installing the proc?
    3. Out of the 3 proc's, which is the best to most powerful to be the heart of my D620?
    4. Any D620 user has upgrade their proc's? mind to share your experience?
     
  48. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    You can't use T6600 (it's for 965/45), but T7400 and T2500 should be fine with A10. It should be a plug and play swap; you don't need to do anything in software, etc. T7400 is more powerful than T2500, but also runs hotter. I'd consider the T7200 if you can find one; it's nearly as fast as the T7400 and a much better value (at least for the prices I've seen).
     
  49. barracuda_8119

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    Commander Wolf : thanks for your prompt reply. It helps me a lot with finding solution to upgrade my laptop. Some seller told me that I could not upgrade procs that uses 4M / 667 because its using a different 'cache'.

    What does 2M and 4M mean? Because my T2300e is 1.66/2M/667Mhz and the one that you recommend is T7200 2.0/4M/667
     
  50. Shredder11

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    I recently replaced the T2300 in my sisters Acer Aspire 5612WLMi laptop with a T7200. It also has the same 945GM chipset as yours and I bet it could take a T7600; temps are around 40°C at idle and 60°C under full load. Last week I upgraded my IBM Thinkpad z61p with a T7600 to replace a T2500 and it now runs much cooler and faster, around 12°C to 14°C cooler; this has the 945PM chipset I think. I kept reading about how hot the T7600 runs and was worried about upgrading my z61p with it, but thankfully it runs much cooler than the old cpu and idles at 42°C and 65°C full load.
     
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