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    Intel Mobile Processor Compatibility Guide

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Commander Wolf, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    The T5200 is a socket M CPU. It can be upgraded to a T5300, T5500, T5600, T7200, T7400, and T7600.
     
  2. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    ... and this is the fundamental issue with the GL960. Intel has official specs for the chipset, but it is very poorly locked down and will very often run "above" the official spec. It isn't guaranteed though, which is why upgrading a GL960 is always a crapshot.

    Sorry, I had my info wrong. If you look at the front page, sockets 478, 479, M and P all have 478 pins.

    This is, however, only the case if the socket matches the pinout on the processor exactly. Often times manufacturers use a "universal" socket for 478, 479, M, and P, which will physically accept all four types of processor, but only be wired for one.

    If you have one of these universal sockets, a T5200 will physically fit your motherboard, but it obviously will not work. I am sure there are exceptions, but I am sure they are very rare.

    This is why the socket business is very confusing and you should go by chipset rather than socket.
     
  3. crazzzz

    crazzzz Notebook Enthusiast

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    What about BIOS ? My current is Phoenix bios v1.34. Do I need to update it for cpu upgrade ?
     
  4. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    You don't have to but it is recommended. Nothing like stripping apart your laptop, finding out it doesn't POST, reripping it apart again and then doing a BIOS upgrade. Also if you are OOW (out of warranty), doing a BIOS flash wrong can brick your motherboard = bad.
     
  5. crazzzz

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    Thanx. When I opened my laptop I see that the socket is like this Socket 479 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Maybe I can't upgrade to core 2 duo. Motherboard chipset is gml gl960.
     
  6. naton

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    Most laptops with the GL960 can be upgraded, but some like HP/Compaq might give some trouble along the way. You should get the T7300 and try it. The T7300 is relatively cheap (about £15), and if it doesn't work you can always sell it ON. You should try it as it is worth it :)
     
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    O.K thanx !
     
  8. crazzzz

    crazzzz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do U recommend me T7300 in ebay for Europe ?
     
  9. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    Yes.
    In the UK, you can get one for £15 or less. A couple of weeks ago someone here at the forum bought one for £14 including postage from an ebay online auction.
     
  10. crazzzz

    crazzzz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanx. I found T7250 for 15 Euro. Is it will a good deal ?
     
  11. crazzzz

    crazzzz Notebook Enthusiast

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    It won't be a good deal. Yeah I found T7300 for 5 USD only in ebay but 4 days to close. I will see that.
     
  12. naton

    naton Notebook Virtuoso

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    The T7250 and the T7300 are quite identical. They both have a clock of 2GHz. The only difference is that the T7250 has 2MB L2 cache while the T7300. The T7300 is supposed to be between roughly between 0 and 5% faster than the T7250. I played with both of them on the same laptop and didn't see any difference.

    15 euro is what? £13. If you can't get the T7300 for the equivalent of £15 than go for the T7250. Either way you want regret the upgrade :)
     
  13. crazzzz

    crazzzz Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanx, I will try to get T7300 first .
     
  14. crazzzz

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    I have purchased T7300 and I'm waiting for delivery...and now I'm with t7300 on my gml gl960, works fine.
     
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    seiyafan Notebook Evangelist

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    My acer TM 2420 uses 910GML, will it support Pentium M processors (like 745, 755)?
     
  16. airadier

    airadier Newbie

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    Hi, I would like to ask a question, thanks in advance.

    I recently adquired a U7700, 1.33Ghz/2MB/533 to replace a T7200 2.0Ghz/4MB/667 in order to get a longer battery life and less heat.

    Howevery, inserting the new processor instead of the T7200, the computer won't boot, I get only a black screen.

    I think the only differences are the FSB and voltage, but these should be automatically selected via CPU Pins. Am I wrong? Should they be compatible?

    The computer chipset is 945GM.

    Thanks very much.
     
  17. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    Is this one of the PGA modded deals? Nothing is officially supported in that whole area, so anything you do is going to be a crapshot. Could be that you have a particularly locked down BIOS or it actually needs a different chipset... I'm not sure.

    My experience with PGA modded ULV, though, is that you're not going to see big (if any) gains in battery life unless you're constantly hitting the max TDP of the T7200. The SU9300 and P8400 that I ran idled at the same voltage, and consumed the same amount of power at low loads.

    Just my opinion here: base on this and a number of other cases I think ULV is less about saving battery and more about preventing small laptops from melting under constant load.
     
  18. chinanrazvan

    chinanrazvan Newbie

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    Hello guys

    I have been reading this thread for quite some time now, but since i am not that advanced in hardware i ask for your help and advice !
    i own a dell inspiron n5030, celeron m900, intel gm45 northbridge and intel 82801im ich9m southbridge - or at least that is what everest reports -2gb ddr3 ram, hdd 320 gb ! now my question is which processors are compatible since i plan on doing a processor upgrade but i have not figured out which might work...i am planning on a core duo or something better but since i can't tell if it is going to work i got stuck...or maybe you can provide a chart with compatible processors because i have tried to look for one on the web but without success...
    I have win7 home edition 64bits installed, and i have noticed a lot of hdd activity, might this be because the laptop is old and windows needs more resources or ...?! because it is not working smooth at all and i mean for surfing the web, music, office and all that, no games or anything !

    Thank you so much!

    regards,
    Razvan
     
  19. Serviser22

    Serviser22 Newbie

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    Hello,

    I have a question because I am in doubt:

    My laptop is Acer Aspire 3690
    Intel i943/940GML
    Intel Celeron M 430 1.7GHz 533MHz FSB

    I want to upgrade the processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile T7200 FSB 667MHz

    Do not expect that it will work at 667MHz FSB, but I wonder whether the processor will make it down to 533MHz?

    Do you think it would be functional because The difference in the speed of the FSB?

    I read on forums that people have successfully upgraded processor T2600 with similar speed and FSB 667th

    Do you think that the T2700 successfully worked in my case?

    Thanks in advance!

    (Sorry for my bad english)
     
  20. arty_harvy

    arty_harvy Newbie

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    Hey guys, I have a question. My wife computer is an HP G60 230US with a Pentium T4200, and integrated graphics. Is it possible for me to replace the T4200 with a C2D T7700?

    T4200- 2.0 GHZ, 1MB L2 - 478 Socket P (Penryn)
    T7700- 2.4 GHZ, 4MB L2 - 478 Socket P (Merom)

    I know that the T7700 is older technology, but I already have it laying around. (It came out of a Sony I used to have.) Thanks for the help guys.
     
  21. Tsunade_Hime

    Tsunade_Hime such bacon. wow

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    It should work, but the BIOS might complain about the microcode missing as T7700 is Merom and doesn't have that extra instruction set that Penryn CPU have. Might I ask why you would do that kinda swap, HP are notorious for poor cooling system, introducing a T7700 might not be a good idea. As for speed wise, 400 MHz isn't alot if that is what you wanted to upgrade for. If you are going to strip it apart which most HP's you have to to get access to the CPU, why not go for like a P8700?
     
  22. arty_harvy

    arty_harvy Newbie

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    I have both a T7300 and T7700 laying around as spares. No need to spend money if the T7700 will work. Dis-assembling a G60 is not an easy task. I have also heard that the Penryn CPUs use a digital thermal sensor, but Meroms do not. Not sure if that will be a problem.
     
  23. arty_harvy

    arty_harvy Newbie

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    Can a T9600 be replaced by a QX9300? The system in mind is a Thinkpad W500

    EDIT: Sorry, did my research, W500 will not boot with a QX9300
     
  24. Serviser22

    Serviser22 Newbie

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    Confirmed! Acer 3690 can work with the T7200 processor. Bus speed is 667MHz.
     
  25. shot00

    shot00 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hello all!
    my specs are:
    cpu: Intel Celeron M 570 @2.26GH
    motherboard: HP 308A
    graphics: Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset family.(x3100)

    So, i found a pentium T2390 Dual Core at 1.86Gh.
    Will this be a good upgrade choise? Will i have any problems installing it, or problems after installing it?

    some programms refers my chipset as GLE960(everest).other(PC wizard) refers as GME965.
    Please someone help me, i am so confused
     
  26. pengy_666

    pengy_666 Notebook Evangelist

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    its a GME965

    I would go higher than that, It can run @ 800mhz from what I gather.

    Also dont know if its a coincidence but there a lot of posts asking this very question on a lot of forums all around the same time and date. All very specific to your specs and Upgrade potential.

    ;)
     
  27. rip123

    rip123 Newbie

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    hello i have a question i have a satellite_p105 it have the mobile intel pm945 it have fsb 667 i want to replace the t7200 with a t9300 fsb 800 some now if this can be donde? thankyou.
     
  28. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    The Intel 945 chipsets were only capable of 533/667MHz FSB. The Intel 965 chipset was capable of 800MHz.

    I believe the highest you can go is a T7600.
     
  29. shot00

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    You just can't do this. T7200 is socket M, T9300 is socket P. Go for socket M cpu with 667 mhz max
     
  30. arty_harvy

    arty_harvy Newbie

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    Managed to get my hands on a T9300 for free. Cant beat that. Tore my wife's HP G60 230US apart last night, removed the Pentium T4200, and installed the C2D T9300. What a huge difference it made. So now everyone knows that it can be done... Thanks for all the help I recieved here.

    Pentium T4200 2.0Ghz 1M Cache
    Core2 T9300 2.5Ghz 6M Cache
     
  31. jesperh

    jesperh Newbie

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    Hello all

    What a truely amazin thread about cpu upgrade. Something like this is not to be found in a Danish forum. I have read from page one and gotten a hole lot more informed about this topic. One thing makes me still alot in doubt about upgrading on my labtop.

    Its a HP DV6-1234-eo which contains a T4200 cpu with socket P (478). Chipset is PM45 rev. 07 Southbridge Intel 82801M (ich9-m), Motherboard is HP model 3628.
    I have upgraded to latest Bios F.44 – 04/06-2011.
    Seconddary info: DDR2 ram pc-6400 and seperate HD4650 gfx.

    Now, why im in doubt is that after reading 43 pages the chipset PM45 is only mentioned once and therefore not alot of usefull setups described so far.
    I know my current setup has the FSB @ 800 MHz and Bus speed @ 200 MHz

    Can I choose from any CPU, first of all are socket P compatible, and second it doent matter if FSB is 800 or 1066 MHz?
    I guess if it has to be @ 800 MHz the C2D T9300/T9500 would be a really good choice. If 1066 is ok I could theoretical choose from P8400 and up.

    Is there somehow any info I should know about HP and Bios. Do they lock it so newer cpu’s out cant be used?
    One last thing, Is there any difference on PM45 chipset & PM45 express chipset? Or is it the same ?

    Am I on the correct path CPU wise or does any of you have a better sugestion or info that I should know of?

    And thanks again for this valuable info already in this forum 

    Regards
    Jesper
     
  32. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    If it's for sure PM45 (the "express" thing shouldn't matter; just make sure you don't have something silly like GL40) you should be able to use 800MHz and 1066MHz FSB processors.

    That being said I think T9300 and T9500 are generally overpriced for what you get... I'd try for T8300 or P8400/T9400.
     
  33. jesperh

    jesperh Newbie

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    That is what cpu z gives of Info. I have tried to dissample the laptop already but i didnt Found any usefull information on the motherboard.
    I Will need to dig more into what value i Will get the dollars spendt in cpu. I dont really know the big difference between Them in perfomance
     
  34. jesperh

    jesperh Newbie

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    I can Confirm a succes in my new cpu. I went from a T4200 @ 2.0GHz, 1Mb L2 cache, 800 FSB to a P8600 @ 2.4GHz, 3Mb L2 Cache, 1064 FSB.
    PM45 chipset

    Thanks again for this awsome info. It does now feel like a brand new laptop once again. :)
     
  35. arty_harvy

    arty_harvy Newbie

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    Congrats on the upgrade jesperh, The T9300 in my wifes HP G60 came out of my Thinkpad T61p. It was upgraded to an X9000 so the T9300 was spare. Congrats again!!!
     
  36. jaluca

    jaluca Newbie

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    I need help. I the asus f3sa-a1, flashed to its highest bios 303, upgradable to any processor considerably better than its stock t7500?
     
  37. arty_harvy

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    @Jaluca, Im not sure I fully understand your question, But it appears that you should be able to swap up to a T7700 (2.4Ghz 4MB) or T7800 (2.6Ghz 4MB) with out it having any negative effect on your system. The X7900 (2.8Ghz 4MB) is also an option, although not really worth the cost and added heat. You would have to do some research to find out if your system can support a faster FSB if these options arnt good enough. The X7900 will also draw 10 more watts from your powerbrick than any of the others.
     
  38. chammyman

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    I wish I had found this earlier. Great guide.

    My story.

    I have a couple of old laptops.

    A Compaq V4110EA that my mother bought new back in 04/05 ish. As standard it came with the Celeron M 360 Processor and the 910 GML chipset.

    First upgrade was to 2 gigs of ram, latest BIOS flash then the processor was next.

    I discovered the pinmod, with excitement I went ahead and done it, nothing, no change, just booted up same speed, I tried the wire round the pins and the wire in the socket method, no change. It didn't work. I was unsure if this was due to it being a Celeron processor as the guides state Pentium M's, but I saw some had managed it with the Celerons.

    I'll just buy a processor instead I thought.

    I was unsure of what to get, so I looked about (this guide would have helped had I found it earlier) and I bought a 740 Pentium M processor. This is of course 1.73 GHz, 2m cache and 533MHz.

    I put it in, it fired up, checked the data and it came up as a 1.3 GHz processor, the speed step was working as it reduced down to 800 or so MHz.

    Of course the clever among you will already be ahead, the board/bios/whatever will only run a 400 MHz fsb so it had pulled the 533MHz back to 400 MHz thus the drop to 1.3 GHz, still the speed step etc worked fine.

    I then looked on ebay the prices are a bit much for the Pentium M 2 GHz etc processors, so instead I took the plunge and ordered a nice and cheap M735 (Pentium M 1.7GHz, 2m, 400 MHz fsb) which I am still waiting to arrive.

    Onto my other freebie old laptop. A Packard Bell Easy-note Argo C (MZ35). This came with a Celeron M410 processor. It runs the ATI X200m chipset. Now I searched and searched but found nothing aside from this thread about it.

    I saw that the socket was the same as the Pentium dual core and the core 2 duo. However there was no evidence that either would work.

    I looked on ebay and saw that a T2080 processor Pentium Dual Core was very cheap, cheaper than the single core upgrades. I took the chance.

    It worked, only issue is in the BIOS it is recognised as a T1080 Processor (but the correct speed) and in MINT it is shown as 2 cores, however for some reason it says one of the cores is only 800MHz, I think this may be a speed step issue, on my desktop I need to have speedstep off otherwise it locks to the lower speed.

    The upgrade from Celeron M 410 to Pentium Dual Core M T2080 is like night and day, no longer is the cpu usage pegged at 100% almost all the time but youtube etc is just so much smoother.

    I do however want a faster processor still for this machine, however I'm unsure if it will actually support a core 2 duo processor or even indeed if it will support a faster dual core Pentium. IS there any chance anyone out there knows?

    Also the BIOS in this laptop is severely restricted, now I assume its the original bios, can't recall the number, I found a newer bios on Packard Bells site but I don't want to flash it if it then locks out new dual core processor I have (this happened to me with a Dell). Can anyone one advise further on this?
     
  39. srdjan_r

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    Hello. I have Aspire 9410z (945PM chipset) laptop and Intel T2080 cpu in it. Can I upgrade cpu with T5500 or T5550?
     
  40. Commander Wolf

    Commander Wolf can i haz broadwell?

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    If can verify that you have a 945, you should be able to use any Socket M processor, including T5500. T5550 is for 965.
     
  41. srdjan_r

    srdjan_r Newbie

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    Well that is somehow strange. I bought the motherboard from some guy, and he claimed that the motherboard is from Aspire 9410z. However, motherboard contain NVidia 7300GO graphics ans CPUID recognize Intel 945PM chipset.
     
  42. blizzard2012

    blizzard2012 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im planning to upgrade my Sony VGN-SR25G cpu.

    Current stats on cpuz is C2D P8400. Socket P (478)
    Will a Intel Core Quad Q9100 work given that it is compatible with socket P.

    How do i check if the motherboard bios is compatible with the Q9100?
    Also what are the safe range of CPU that i can consider from?

    Thanks for the help.
     
  43. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If your series ever shipped with a quad core it may work.

    If not then there is a 0% chance it will work.
     
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    hmm not that i know off though. :confused:
     
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    Then no, it has special power circuitry requirements so you are pretty much boned.

    However you can go for faster dual cores, any later 8 or 9 series core 2 will work.
     
  46. blizzard2012

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    Darn ! :(

    Was considering purchasing it on Ebay from laptopmonkey.
    Intel C2D T9900.

    I've actually google the model and cpu together but i got nothing out of it.
    Is it still safe to proceed on ?

    Thanks :)
     
  47. namaiki

    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    blizzard2012, for what reason would you like to upgrade your CPU? Not many applications are mainly CPU bound.
     
  48. User Retired 2

    User Retired 2 Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    E8435-3.06, T9900-3.06 or X9100-3.06 are highest performance dual-core Penryns for your chipset. The X9100 with unlocked multipliers so can be overclocked to your thermal limits. Best is the E0-stepping revision which runs cooler. Folks with 965PM chipsets are retrofitting them (after doing a 266->200Mhz BSEL mod) and getting 4.0Ghz+ out of them.

    Also see the PLL pinmod and dual-IDA links in my sig. Using those overclocking methods could get yout P8400-2.26 up to 2.83/3.0Ghz.
     
  49. blizzard2012

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    Hi Nando,

    Glad to see you here :D

    Yes, as they were available on ebay i was considering those 3 initially but just unsure if my motherboard would support it. How could i clarify on that before making a purchase on the cpu. If successful it would really turn my laptop into a beast :D

    I was going through your sig and was surprised that there was a thread going on for a couple of years. However, which thread should i follow to obtain the best result?

    I gave "Dual-IDA Overclock and Non Whitelisted BIOS, F40E" a try but the HPQflash wizard prompted me that Bios image is not compatible with this system. Would appreciate if you could guide me through this like how you made egpu possible on my laptop.

    Thanks Again
     
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    Well, after egpu-ing i was curious if an upgrade of cpu was possible too.
    Which somehow brought me back here while i was googling :D
     
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