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Yes, thats one of the reasons i recommend HWMonitor. It will record everything, even if on the background.

 

Just a bump for the day.

 

I ordered a 1530 few days ago... Do i need a cooler? if yes i saw this ones to be the most famous ones...

 

Is expansys-usa the only place to get the Notepal Infinite right now? The 23 day wait time is absurd.......

 

If you plan on gaming it is recommended. Take a look at the buyers guide (link on first page).

 

From what I can find yes. I would snoop around the forums a bit as many have been inquiring about ordering one

 

Thanks Gophn, I cleaned the fans out last week, the only way to get a good cleaning was to take the laptop apart (a first for me). Took a while to get some of the screws out as the were pretty tight and some of the screw heads were completely worn off.

The temps are running alot more normal now, the gpu dropped about 20C under game play, and the cpu temps dropped also.

Could not believe the amount of dust that was in there, was like half an inch thick where the fan sucks in air :O the dust peeled off like an orange skin.

Everything seems to be working great now

 

Nice. Glad it worked out.

Dust is the #1 problem for gaming notebooks overheating... people need to realize this and do regular dust cleaning and airing out (with air cans).

 

My 3 year old notebook barely had dust on the fans or heatsink. It has never been cleaned before. Very weird.

 

gaming notebooks seem to accumulate the most dust since the fans are running very often... as compared to a typical usage notebook where the fan comes on maybe even half as much.... if even that much.

 

it also depends on the environment of where you use it too.

 

^^ true.

but, from my experience, the more fans spinning, the more dust is sucked through the system.

 

buddump bump

 

install an aircon filter at the air intake. works well for me. keeps my notebook fan and heatsink clean

 

That is very interesting! Does it affect the temperature in anyway? I might have to try it out myself!

 

Question:

Does updating the video drivers affect when fans will turn on?

I've noticed after switching to laptop2go driver 177.66 from 177.41 my Gateway 6860 graphics card (8800m GTS 512mb ddr3) fan does not kick in on "high gear" when they hit 60C like before, specifically when gaming for the same amount of time, same room temperature and at the same temp readings on HWMonitor. Should I be worried?

I was playing Gears for War for like 20 minutes and quickly exited the game to fire up HWmonitor, and the GPU reading was 65. I could hear the graphics card fan but not on high gear like I was accustomed to before.

I also installed this Ntune thing just today, did no optimizations or configurations for it whatsoever manually, and I am not sure if they changed anything that might let the hardware heat up inside. There were fan configurations on the Control Panel but I did not touch it as it was all greyed out.

P.S I must say the temps on HWMonitor are still all normal when idling or surfing the net (GPU: 45c, CPU:41c, HDD:45-49c}. The laptop fans/vents at the bottom are all clean and appear clear of dust. I have had the laptop only for 3 weeks now.

Full specs in the sig.

 

I recommend using RivaTuner to monitor GPU temps, since it can monitor them during in-game with an OSD (on-screen display).

Some drivers can affect performance differences that can cause fans to turn on more or less often.

You temps seem fine though.

 

My computer is a Thinkpad T60 by Lenovo. How would I get to the fans in order to clean it with compressed air?

 

This is my notebook's temps under 70-80% load for about 15 or 20 minutes.
I have not done anything but undervolted it to .85v.
How much would my temps drop if I added a chill mat and cleaned the fans?
Is there anything else I could do to lower them?
As you probably can see, I love my temps, just want to know if theres anyway to make them even better .

 

You do not have to open it to air it out, just concentrate the air bursts at the vents, both directions.

thats pretty good already.

if you clean already clogged vents, there is usually a significant drop on temps... but if its pretty much clean, then you would not see much

getting a good notebook, however, would show some nice temp reducutions indeed, especially if the vents on the bottom line up with the coolers fans/vent

 

it didn't affect my NB temperature. but whenever i change the filter I saw clump of dust on it. So I will still continue to use the filter. really works for me. My air intake is at the bottom so the filter is not obvious whenever I bring my notebook to the cafe.

 

Sounds good, I might try it on my new notebook.

 

I wanna try taking out the fans on mine for fun but i think it will fail to POST cause it will notice the fans are missing

Anyway i used a notebook cooler on mine and got about 35c. I made sure the coolers fan was right below the intake hole to force induct the air past the system fans.

Now im trying to figure out how to cleanly drill holes into the HD cover to make vents. Im afraid of cracking it.

 

What material is your casing?

 

3-4 year old plastic from the looks of it. I cant find a replacement cover so im a little hesitant. You need a cover or else the HD will literally fall out. The HD uses the covers screws to be screwed down.

Its completely blocked off so im sure adding a few holes will help disperse underside heat a little.

 

i'm looking forward to getting it (has not arrived yet, but preparing ahead of time), i was really interested in this undervolting thing.....

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1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?

dell xps m1730

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)

XPS M1730, Intel Core 2 Duo T9300(2.5GHz, 800Mhz, 6M L2 Cache)
4GB, DDR2, 667MHz 2 Dimm for XPS M1730
17 UltraSharp TrueLife Wide screen WUXGA for XPS M1730
1GB NVIDIA SLI GeForce 8800M GTX
400G (2x200) 7200RPM High Performance SATA HDD Free FallSensor
8X DVD+/-RW Drive
Integrated High Definition Audio, Inspiron
Intel 4965 WLAN (802.11a/g/n) Mini Card
Logitech Gaming LCD
85 WHr 9-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery, for XPS M1730
Dell Wirless 355 Bluetooth Module (2.0+EDR)
AGEIA PhysX Physics Accelerator

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)

not known yet

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )

software only

5. Budget for cooling solutions?

0-20

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)

expert

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Do you have access to a metal shop? You may be able to make a new cover out of a specific metal that would act as a heat sink at the same time as a vent. I would look around, trying to remember the user but there are a few members that have done cooling mods similar to this.

First off get your temperatures, update bios/drivers then undervolt your cpu. After all that toss somthing under the back two feet of the notebook and you should be pretty cool. :wink:

 

i already have this, which should keep me ok until i develop my own refrigerated 'notepal' or something....

http://www.xtstand.com/

i am really interested in this software based undervolting thing. are there any concerns with respect to hardware life when using undervolting ? i never did this before on a computer, so i'm not sure of what values would be best for a specific cpu....

 

I am not too familiar with undervolting as Flipfire is our resident udervolting expert, infact he has written the undervolting guide, there is a link in the actual post containing the guide.

 

link please ?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=235824

 

thanks. so are there any long-term or short term side-effects of undervolting the machine ? how about undervolting the gpu's, is this something that's done as well ?

thanks

 

Your gpu most likly undervolts its self when needed, as for undervolting its safe. Read the guide and I recommend you ask flipfire questions vs me on the guide thread as he is far more informed then I am :wink:

 

Most GPUs (dedicated) will underclock itself when not plugged into AC. (e.g. ATI's powerplay feature). You cannot undervolt the GPU yourself. As for undervolting the CPU, there are no long term side effects, I undervolted my old notebook for almost 3 years with no problems.

Johnny T

 

thanks folks...i will try out undervolting as soon as my system arrives. it looks like a long and tedious proceess, this is why i asked about my particular setup, perhaps someone out there has the same machine and can recommend a start point so that i don't sit thru that many BSOD's...

 

Every CPU's voltages and tolerances are different, which is teh annoying thing, follow the guide, and dont try to UV too much, or you have to back track on voltages which is tedious...very

 

You can undervolt a Nvidia gpu by .5v but i can guarantee you its not easy tweaking your vBIOS. Most you will lose is 2-5c

 

Time for a bump

 

Hmm, So I'm thinking of doing a fan modification. I wanna change my fan to a more efficient cooling one, but I don't think there is a compatible one available. Thus it seems i need to modify one. And is this is the NBR cooling central, I thought that this was a good place to start.

Do laptops use a standard power-connector for the fan, and does it look anything like desktop, modern or not? This, I think, is the most important question, which i can't check. I wanna modify my Asus F8, and the only reference laptops I have available for checking are two very non-standard laptops (both old, one is a Powerbook, and the other uses all desktop parts, even the RAM).

 

I am not an expert on this but I have been doing research and it seems very hard to do if even possible. As notebook fans are thinner then most desktop fans and have a special form in order to blow air out instead of up. I know there is a Asus C90s modders club, you may want to knock on their door. Good luck and sorry I am not of much help

 

Mmkay. Thanks mate. Didn't think about the airflow direction.

 

Hello NBR Cooling Central Experts,

A quick question - After reading around extensively in this forum, I have kind of understood that Zalman NC2000 is pretty good for a XPS M1530 (though for 15" laptops its supposed to be NC1000). I understood NC2000 is bigger and spreads the flow from the fans better through the base of M1530. Is my understanding right? Can I go ahead and get my laptop a Zalman NC2000? Thanks in advance

 

Go get the NC2000, it should be fine for your system.

 

Thanks mate I will get one soon Looking around for some nice prices... but not much diff b/w vendors.. anyway, will get one soon and stay totally cool with Zalman and the M1530.. Oleyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

* rep laters. run out of the damn limit.

 

Ah sorry, another quick question - How will the tilt be since I already have a 9-cell battery? Will it be even more than now? and will that 'even more' forward tilt make it a bit difficult in opening the lid? Because the position with which we can place our hands (one for holding down the base, one for lifting the lid up) would be pretty limited I guess, if we dont want to put too much stress on the lid! U know what I mean?? Not a big deal, just wanted to know from someone probably using it already, if everything would be fine Thanks again people.

 

You should remove the 9cell battery as tilt will lower the effect the cooler has on your system. You want the bottom of the chassis as close to the vents as possble without full contact. Your tilt will probably be similar. If you look at the review of the NC2000 it has the exact angle. I dont think it should be major but may I say personally I enjoy the tilt typing.

Enjoy :wink:

 

Thanks a lot mate

Yes, I also like the tilt typing. It feels good and its comfortable for me. In fact, I want whatever tilt is there. I did not want to remove the tilt or whatever. I was just thinking if the tilt with the cooler + native tilt with the 9-cell would make it a big tilt and opening / closing would be a hassle that before.

So yeah, I understand the chassis needing to be as close as possible to the cooler... So probably I'll get out the 9-cell and use it when mobile (but most of the time I am using this as a desktop, so that shouldn't be a worry I guess!)

Thanks again mate.
* rep later buddy.

 

YESSSSS... I ordered a Zalman NC2000, just now, for around 55 Euros total. Cheers.

 

Good to hear!

 

So, I think my temps are pretty high, I'm using a P-6860 FX and after about an hour and a half today gaming they were up to this (measured with HW Moniter):

Core#0 - 68C
Core#1 - 67C
GPU - 74C
HDD - 59C

The motherboard sensors were low 70's too. Normally they don't get this high (except GPU, that's fairly normal) but my room's pretty hot right now, probably about 80-85 F.

Should I get a cooler? I'm particularly worried about the HDD temp.

Thanks.