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yeah, those temperatures are a little high. You may want to get a nice cooling fan for your room, and that should help decrease system temperatures.
If you have not undervolted yet, now is a good time. You can help decrease your cpu's operating temperature, which may in turn cut a few degrees off of the temperatures of the rest of the components.
A laptop cooler would be a good choice, but try proping the back of the system up with some drafting erasers, or a paperback book. The lift will help increase air circulation under the system allowing the system to be cooled more effectively by the system's fan.

K-TRON

 

I've had a compal HGL 31 for about a year and half now. I love this laptop, except that I've been getting heat issues with it.

I recently reformatted my laptop and decided to check the cpu core temperatures. I used HWMonitor to do this and found the following results:


Intel Core Duo T2300:
core #0: 64-65 C (goes up to 70 C) about 150 F
core #1: 65 - 66 C (goes up to 70 C)

HDD:
Samsung HM060II 47 C


This seems terribly high because the cpu usage is only at 1% - 4% (idle).

Now I've read the guides on the forums and will be buying a laptop cooler soon. However, is there something wrong here? This seems way too high of a temperature for an idle system. (I dont have Arctic Silver 5 either).

 

Hi, I have a Dell 1330 (as seen in my sig). My idle temps are about 60 degrees which is not bad, so I understand, for this laptop with the heat problem GPU, etc... I was doing some virus scanning on mcafee and symatec sites today (hardly gaming or anything) and the temp went up to 70-75 degrees. I know that those temps are still relatively low but I am wondering if the temperature should have gone up that much for that particular activity? TIA!

 

AntiVirus programs always monitor the HDD... which will keep it spinning up and keeping it warm/hot.

FYI, Norton and MacAffee suites are some of the worse thing to put on any PC... because they just bloat of the system with resource hogs... and does not do much for the system.

You are better off getting freeware Antivirus programs (like avast! 4 or AVG) that do the exact same job, and does not bloat the system.

In any case, if your CPU is around 70C or under, it should be fine.

If you HDD is below 60-56C then its fine.

And GPU under 90C, then its good.

I would recommend to get a nice cooler to prevent overheats... like:
- Zalman ZM-NC1000 / NC2000
- Cooler Master Infinite
- Cryo LX

 

Thanks so much for your reply. Just to clarify, I do not use those companies' anti virus products, I use avg free. I was on their websites using their free scanning from the site feature that they offer to enable you to check if you have a virus from their websites, not from your own anti virus solution which might not pick up a virus if one has already infected your machine. I hope that all makes sense! I guess these scans would be keeping the h/d in constant use, therefore driving up the temp. It is just that it seems a little excessive to have the temps go up that much for just scanning for viruses as opposed to, say, gaming. Anyway, I know that those temps are not killer ones. Which cooler do you recommend for a 13 inch laptop? Thanks for your time, Yasmine

 

I fyou want to tax your HDD, get a HDD benchmark or burn-in tool like HDDTune or Burn-In Test Pro.

 

Hello at NBR Cooling Experts ...

What would you guys suggest as the Best Choice for Sager NP2096?

Thanks,
G!

 

Passive laptop "pad" or board wanted for using on leg, on bed, sofa...etc wanted for the HP dv5t w/P8400 Montevina processor and on board graphics, so the heat will be as low as possible for the dv5t, which arguably does NOT dissipate heat that well at all.

Ordered the hp dv5t, concerned about the achilles heel of this model - heat dissipation, I decided against going to a higher speed processor and a discrete graphics card, both of which add substantial heat despite the "P" series of Montevina processor being used. That's why i opted for the P8400 and the Intel on-board graphics.

I'd like to find a PASSIVE laptop "board", or holder, or pad, that would allow excellent air circulation below the dv5t, ESPECIALLY the rear half of the computer. Many have said that lifting the rear 2 "legs" by 1/2" helps a lot.

for a better idea of what the bottom looks like, please see this link to the dv5z review, which is physically identical to the dv5t, with the exception of the AMD processor versus my Intel Montevina:

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4486

Scrolling down the to bottom of the abovementioned review, one would see that the hottest vents are, indeed in the back half of the laptop.

I'd be most grateful if the good folks here can recommend what they would consider most suitable passive solution for this laptop. With the slowest "P" processor and an on board graphics solution, I don't wish to go the route of a usb fan laptop holder/cooler, which could lead to breaking a usb outlet on the laptop over time.

Thanks in advance!

 

So for the XPS 1530 should i get the zalman nc2000 or the NZXT Cryo XL?? i dont care about money, i just care about performance.. i will be overclocking this laptop a bit, and i have a 7200 rpm hd, which makes the computer a bit hot overall.... So the winner is....????

 

http://www.raindesigninc.com/store/index.php

I would recommend check out the iLap, I have heard good things about it but have not gotton my hands on it, one thing you could do for extra cooling on there is tape some erasers or bottle caps to where your notebook feet align onto the iLap then you have extra lift for airflow aswell

Yes, The NZXT may perform a bit better, but will be noticibly louder then the Zalman. If sound is a major issue for you (some people just plain cant stand it) then go for the Zalman if not I would say give the NZXT a shot.

 

X2P: thx for your heads up/advice re: iLap. it is quite something, eh? well thought out, so it seems.

i'll try to read up on it tomorrow.

you know, it's tough to find a good passive solution. it appears that only the actively cooled ones are the truly effective ones, yet, few of those are really practical as they not only eat up battery life, but they also typically blow air downwards or suck air from bottom up, rendering them not suitable to really be put on one's lap!

 

Honestly I find passive coolers usually raise temps so the trick would be to find one that is as comfortable as a desk but can be used everywhere. If you use erasers I am pretty sure that the air circulation would help.

Are you planning on gaming with the iLap? If so how long?

 

Is it worth the extra $40???? and size compred are they about the same size???

 

If its is 40$ more where you live and you would like to stay economical and save cash then do so there is nothing wrong with that. If you have cash to blow then buy it if not dont worry the Zalman should be sufficiant.

You could check prices on sites such as pricegrabber etc.

 

actually i exagerated a bit saying $40 the actual diference including shipping is $16.31. Is it worth it?

 

If you want to spend the extra then yes it is worth it if you feel like you would rather save the 16$ then do so.

 

I read online few reviews and they mention that the NZXT will be better to cool off the GPU and the zalman would be better to cool off the HD. My HD is getting abit hot, (just replace stock 5200rpm with 7200rpm), also im overclocking my GPU a bit.... Will the NZXT push air a bit into the HD? or not at all?

 

It should but I dont think it would be hit directly by fans but do not quote me on that

 

how about sound and power requirements... Will the XPS1530 power the NZXT?? is it louder than the zalman..? and if im using a 9 cell battery do i have to remove it to use any of this coolers???? thanks =)=)

 

You should keep the 9 cell battery on, as for power the 1530 may strugle a bit with the NZXT as there have been reports of some users with other notebooks struggling for power but I am not sure about specifics for the 1530. Sorry

 

so if im overclocking GPU the zalman is worthless?

 

Mmm...x2p: if you've found that most passive coolers are not useful and actually counterproductive, do you think the iLap would work? i thought you made an excellent suggestion with that one...

 

For cooling no, but if you plan on using on a bed or couch ( i believe that is what you stated) there is not much else besides a stand and chucking a couple errasers underneath the back feet of your notebook for a passive cooling solution

 

Ｎｏｔ　ａｔ　ａｌｌ. Take a look at my recent temperatures in the comparasion of the NC2000 and 1000 since there is also a Table temperature as well and there is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE differnce in temperature.

 

but the NZXT gives better temps than de zalman one???

 

Passive Cooling solution needed:

X2P: hi again. i called the iLap folks and, sadly, had a most disappointing talk. they were seemingly not interested in answering questions, and just a case of unusual obfuscation of every sort possible. i might have to search for one to see physically in my area before making the purchase.

what are some other passive cooling "pad", or "board" favorites please that have proven to be well liked/designed? while the iLap is the most attractive one to date, sadly, because i would not want to give any sort of business, no matter how small, to an entity that i'm uncomfortable with. sigh, but...barring unforeseen recommendations, i might have to get the iLap. does anyone here have an iLap? is it good/nice in real life?

i'm hoping for some other recommendations. i think the Lapinator might be my 2nd favorite though it is less fancy looking, less attractive ( http://www.lapinator.com/ ).

fyi: my laptop which will arrive shortly has the following configuration which was expressly chosen for low heat output due to me being a non-gamer:

P8400, on-board Intel graphics, 5400 rpm hard drive

thx all in advance!

 

pump pump pump

 

You need to stop bumping threads for no reason, if someone knows the answer they will reply.

Personally I don't think there is much difference with NZXT or Zalman, or any other cooler for that matter. It won't improve overclocking by much if that's what you're after(you posted something about it earlier). Problem is with these coolers is that it's a not a direct cooling path for notebooks as it only dissapates air surrounding casing, yes the temperatures may drop a few degrees on idle, but no more than 2-5% overclocking performance. The main issue is the heatsink devices itself, and if you were to improve those instead, it would make a bigger difference (ie; thermal paste, proper cleaning etc).

The other thing that you need to take into consideration are the cooler designs in respect to your notebook. Take note on where the intake and exhaust are on your notebook and if the cooler's fans are in that area. So judging by other users results entirely may not be completely accurate if their notebook is different than yours as their heatsink location may benefit more or less than others.

Keep in mind that using cooling devices such as these increase the amount of dust going into your notebook, so you will need to clean it more often.

 

thats why i posted here, to see who had experience with the xps1530 and which one was a better cooler for it...

 

ACTUALLY that is a false statement. There have been no tests by one person and one notebook to confirm this. Just because 2 seperate people test a differnt cooler with the same notebook the temperatures will be differnt due to differnt room temperature, how long the laptop has been in service, they would need IDENTICAL parts. The only real way to do a test unless you own both cooler and use the same notebook and give each cooler and equal chance.

The post by D3X http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=3768232&postcount=228

explains everything else, and that extra 2-5% overclock would at most resault in 1 fps more if even.

Here are a couple links to ones that have been mentioned on NBR with good feedback

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3705

http://www.laptopdesk.net/laptopdesk_futura.html

I will get some more later

 

any1 know if there is a version of RMClock that can be used with vista x64 ?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=203865

http://forum.rightmark.org/topic.cgi?id=6:1226

 

newb question: are there any external laptop coolers that dont use usb power? i would rather have one running off of ac.

 

You can just buy a AC power adapter for USB. Just like for iPods and just plug it into that.

Personally, i just use a USB hub.

 

1. HP Compaq nc8430

2. C2D Merom T7200. 2GB DDR2. Intel 945 Chipset. ATI x1600 256Mb.

3. Idle (except for typing this) temperature (in C):
Core 0 - Min 68 Max 72
Core 1 - Min 69 Max 71
HDD - Min 41 Max 41
*bunch of other ACPI temperatures (TZ0 - TZ5) ranging from 35 C - 80 C

4. Probably Cooling Pad

5. $100 CND?

6. Beginner

I'm just wondering why it's this hot. I've installed all the latest BIOS and ATI drivers. I'm not even sure if I should just add a cooling pad. Should I call HP for a fix? It gets scary hot when I play games, so I try not to play in the summer. It's currently 27 C in my home. Thanks in advance.

 

The older HP did run quite warm, I would 1st suggest cleaning the vents. Then try abit of undervolting. In terms of cooling pad, the Zalman NC1000/2000 Looks to be the better option. But I am not should how effective they are as there are actually many vent at the bottom of your notebook. I have the HP8510p and I can say the cooling system is very good. Clearly HP did some improvements.

 

Thanks Johnny. I just dusted out the fans and ordered the Zalman 2000, hope it works. The heat usually only becomes an issue in the summer, or when I play games. Hopefully the cooler will make the laptop seem less likely to melt.

 

My gf has similar notebook but weaker processor/integrated graphics and constantly runs hot hot hot. She bought a Zalman and saw a great drop in temperature.

Good luck, Johnny's suggestions are perfect

 

1. Acer Aspire 6920G 16".

2. The only part that's giving me problems is the CPU, a Core 2 Duo T5550.

3. Minimum hovers around 40 degrees C, but hits low 70s after some TF2 or video encoding, and thus throttles itself.*

4. Active cooling - I'm not going to undervolt because of what it did to my system the last time I tried it (corrupted my Vista installation).

5. $30-40 CAD. I have a Canada Computers right by my apartment, if that helps.

6. Advanced (not quite Expert)

*My previous laptop had a T2300E, and it stuck around at full power until it hit the 90s. This C2D is a wimp!

 

Are you willing to bump up your budget a bit as there are basically only 2 notebook coolers that would fit your notebook comfortably which are the Zalman NC2000 and the NZXT Cryo LX

 

I am, but not by much. The Aspire 6920 is a little weird in terms of dimensions - it's a 16:9 screen ratio, 15.2" (385.0mm) W x 10.8" (275.0mm) D.

I did have a look into options that the local Canada Computers offered, and came up with these few.
- Vantec Lapcool 5: may not fit entire, but I got SD card cases that can balance it out.
- Cooler Master Notepal (R9-NBC-AWAK): It fits!
- Thermaltake iXoft Fanless Notebook Cooler: won't fit entire notebook, but may be a good option
- Bytecc (NC-820) Aluminum Super Quiet Notebook Cooler: It looks like a Zalman NC1000/2000 hybrid of some kind. Just a little short in width.

EDIT: I stand corrected - it's either a rebranded Zalman, or a very good knockoff. Have a look - http://www.byteccusa.com/product/cooler/NC-820/NC-820.htm
Any way to get a Notepal Infinite in Canada, btw?

 

Its a knock off with alot of issues, noise, poor performance etc.

No there is not

Current cheapest Zalman NC2000's on the market
http://www.shopbot.ca/default.asp?kw=Zalman+nc2000&position=search

they will go on sale soon as they have not been for a while

NZXT is a bit pricy for you

 

Thanks for the tip on the Bytecc.
How about the others up there? I read the review for the Notepal W1, and it wasn't exactly glowing, but it's available in my area at least.

 

Honestly there are only 2 coolers I would recommend for your notebook and one of them is far out of range bringing the NC2000 to be the best choice

 

Hmmm, good point.
I think I saw someone selling their NC2000 here for $40 + shipping, so I might spring for that.

 

Great Idea, I think it was lakijen

 

It was indeed, but I told him he can let someone else buy it - not sure if it's right for my machine. I'll wait until I measure things up, then start looking for deals.
Heck, maybe even that Cooler Master Notepal W1 would be a good choice, since it's in my price range and available locally. Have you heard anything good about it?

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?HP dv5t

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)See Signature - nvidia 177.73 drivers

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)see attached - used a 3d intensive screen saver for about 8 minutes to achieve max GPU temp of 95 C

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )active fan, passive air flow - nothing that voids warranty

5. Budget for cooling solutions? Under $75

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)Better than average.

 

CPU temps looks fine, abit of undervolting would definitely help. As for cooler...I am abit uncertain as you have vents every where! lol! As for the cooler, the NZXT Cryo LX is an option.

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
Dell Inspiron 1520

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
2 Dual Core
2GB RAM
100GB HD

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
CPU - 51/70
GPU - 60/78

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
Fan, nothing that requires me to get my hands dirty

5. Budget for cooling solutions?
$50

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Above average

Thanks =D