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Unfortunately that would mean that it going to heat up the internal components which wouldn't do it any good what so ever.

 

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1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?

ASUS G50VT-X2

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)

Intel Core 2 Duo P8600(2.40GHz) 15.4" Wide SXGA+ 4GB Memory 320GB HDD 7200rpm DVD Super Multi NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)

Going to run FSX and Multimedia Softwares like Corel Draw / Photoshop CS3

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )

Active/ But as I have to carry it along, need a one that can fit into the same bag and is a little light.
5. Budget for cooling solutions?

$30-$50

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)

Intermidiate

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The Notepal Infinite has been what I've leaned more and more towards, too... since I'm in the process of moving and am holding off orders until that happens Dec 1 (since it's a 3k mile move), I'll be looking for your results, which I hope are pleasantly 'chill' as a line of Obama prose regarding hope.

It may be a really good or really bad reason to let your gateway be the guinea pig, but it's not like I have a lot of time to overheat it right now with all these boxes to pack!

Thanks for the superimposing of the cooler--thankfully for me, the small part where the solid piece is... that's my coldest of hot spots--the hard drive is the most consistently hot while the GPU gets the dragon breath award by about 17 degrees (17 degrees that start to worry me when I think about COD coming out ... in a few hours... and hooking me most certainly!)

I got a $35 BB rewards card for buying this (and a Seagate FreeAgent Xtreme edition 1.5TB external to accompany it)... if they had decent coolers, I'd be practical about it all, but it looks like I'm going to just have to enjoy my $15 copy of the lastest COD... aww, shucks.

 

After your kind reply and some thought, I eventually got it: Why use the hottest component to "preheat" the rest of the chassis. I'll stick with full-speed exhaust mode. Must have been a brain fart.........

 

My HP dv2500t has some pretty serious heating problems. On the "Balanced" power setting, it is often in the mid 80s in CPU temperature and has shut down a few times from getting too hot, and I now run it in "Power saver" just so it doesn't get that worked up (still in the mid 60s for CPU temperature, which is way too high for that setting). I messed around with undervolting a bit, which helped a little, but I didn't get to try too much and I'll do that soon. I suspect that I really need to clean out my fans, because it's been a very long time since I have. Unfortunately, the past 8 months have been pretty hectic, and I'm hoping I can get all this done when I finally get a break in December.

I've been using Notebook Hardware Control, and I have a couple questions. For one, why won't it show my hard drive temperature? Does this happen to anyone else, and is there a program I should be using instead that will show both CPU and HD temps? Also, how can I stop it from dimming my screen whenever it boots up?

As soon as this semester ends and I have free time, I'll clean out the fans and try to undervolt as much as possible. Hopefully that reduces my temperatures a lot, I'll check back in if it doesn't!

 

I bought a Zalman ZM-NC1000 cooling pad today and it's great so far. My idle temps, previously 48*C for both the CPU and GPU, are now down to 36*C GPU and 23*C for the CPU. And that's on very low fan speed. Simply elevating my notebook seems to help a lot.
The NC1000 has awesome quality and it looks sick. I have the black one.

One note about the guide - the notebook coolers link under Accessories does not work.

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?

Gateway P-173XL

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)

Intel Core 2 Duo P8300(2.40GHz),
4GB Memory
2x200GB Hard Drives (RAID 0)
NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
GPU idles at around 55 - 60C
Once I start a game, it jumps up to 85C in about 10 - 15 mins.

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
Any.

5. Budget for cooling solutions?

$30-$50

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)

Intermidiate

Note: This is a brand new laptop. I've used it only for a day, and it started out with all these problems. I didn't OC the GPU or anything.

Things I have already done:
- Updated my drivers to the latest available.
- Lifted up my notebook so air can pass through.
- Check if the fans are working (and yes they are).

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
HP DV5t
2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
* Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P8400 (2.26 GHz)
* 15.4" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
* 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
* 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
* 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
* Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
* HP Color Matching Keyboard
* Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card with Bluetooth
* No Modem
* LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
* 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
?
4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
Something small and efficient
5. Budget for cooling solutions?
Would rather not "Do it your self"
6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Medium


I want to be able to use this portably too

 

Ive read many people recommending the Zalman NC1000 cooler for any or all 17" notebooks. Please save yourself some trouble, and get the NC2000.

 

Solved overheating problem in my ForgetYou A6120 w/T5750:

I bought another A6120 refurb w/T8100 from the factory store on Ebay at auction this time. With undervolting, idles at 45C and tops at 55C.

After all the thrashing around about fan control, I just bought another A6120 notebook with the same fan but with a cooler processor. Here's the best part:

I paid half the original price because ForgetYou-Siemens is flogging off their extra inventory at half the factory store price and I got a better CPU.

God must love dopes. He put so many of them in sales !

 

Very nice info, I was able to reduce CPU and mainboard heat a lot by undervolting, combined with my existing solution of little homemade legs to prop my laptop up to get better ventilation and this baby is running much cooler!

The difficulty ratings seem a little off though.

How is building your own notebook cooler intermediate/expert (can be as easy as buying something flat with holes in it and screwing on a fan), while disassembling your laptop and applying thermal paste and cleaning out the fans and internals is only beginner?

 

Good to hear

The building your cooler is intermediate/expert due to the complexity it can lead to. Building your own cooler can become quite complex the one in the link is the most basic way.

 

Hey

I have just re-applied (20 min) the thermal paste to my XPS m1530. I played BF2 for 5 min, and suddenly my GPU temps jumped to 95 C!! It has never gone over 80 before

Does the thermal paste take a while before it starts working or something? I don't think I've done anything totally wrong, maybe to much AS5 on the GPU...? Because my CPU temp peaked at 56 C. If so is there any way to take some of, because i just applied it.

 

Lol i figured it out, i forgot to tighten one of the screws inside the laptop

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
acer aspire 5920g

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
Intel Core 2 Duo T7300(2.0ghz)
2GB Memory
NVIDIA GeForce 8600m GT

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
GPU idles between 55-60
GPU reaches a temp of 90 degrees when playing games (fallout 3)

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
Any.

5. Budget for cooling solutions?

$25-$50

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Beginner-Intermediate.

thanks in advance

 

1. What notebook do you own (Make and Model)?
Dell m1530. Brand New

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
Geforce 8600GT
4GB Ram
250GB
Intel T9300

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
Idle - GPU: 60-65. CPU: 45-50
Load - GPU: 85. CPU: 55-60 when playing Crysis

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
thermal paste, notebook coolers

5. Budget for cooling solutions?
max $50

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Beginner to expert

Its summer down here in Australia, I took the temp readings when it was 36 degrees outside, feels pretty darn hot inside as well. I noticed the high temps so I elevated the rear of the laptop and placed a fan to blow on it (improvise!). The GPU temp gets down to 79 degrees under intense load.

Thanks.

 

does running riva tuner in the background makes the gpu run hotter because when i do, and play a game like cod4, temperature reaches around 88 degrees, but when i play the same game (without riva tuner in the background) exit and check the temperature right away, i get values of 78-84 degrees

*goes for all games running for, approximately, the same amount of time*

 

no RivaTuner does NOT increase the temp while in-game, it just dynamically monitors it.

88C degrees is an acceptable GPU temp... especially when a game is very GPU intensive.
- as long as it does not float past 95C, then you should be fine.

you can even use a program like HWmonitor which will monitor the temps to peak temps.
- so if you were gaming and exit the game, HWmonitor will show what the top temp that the GPU reached.

RivaTuner is much more convenient and practical since you do not have to close the game to know what the temp is.

 

i just did the test again and got the same results, but this time i just exited to explorer (alt tab) and turned on riva

with riva 86-89
alt tab then riva 78

i actually can "feel" the temperature of my gpu on the upper left corner of my laptop. it does feel cooler without riva.

ill test it again, maybe in a hotter ambient temperature

 

i hope you realize that ALT-TAB is the same as closing the game.

when the game screen ... D3D or OpenGL is present (regardless if its full screen or in window mode), the GPU temps will be higher because the GPU is still processing.....
when the game screen is not present (either being closed or minimized from ALT-TAB'ing), the GPU temp will be lowered since the GPU is not working hard anymore and started to cool down

 

To the cooling gurus:
Since part of the cooling equation is the ambient room temp, I was wondering how close you guys have come to being above ambient. I can get my M700 to hold at about 28c (as reported by CPUID hardware monitor), or 6c above ambient after several mods (AS5, regular heatsink cleaning, removing air flow restricting stickers, and heatsink additions) when idling, and this is down from 38c when I first got the laptop out of the box. My goal has been to do only hardware mods and not undervolt or throttle down my CPU (a T9300).

Some future plans:
add a 25mm x 10mm 5v fan and power it by USB. I believe that I have enough space to install this without serious case mods (beyond creating some mounting holes) next to my CPU (fan was ordered several days ago, waiting for it to arrive)

Lap the heatsink. I have been hesitant to do this as I have never attempted this before, but I think I could probably get some decent results.

Liquidmetal pad. I have seen some reviews for this and they look promising, just as long as you do not plan on upgrading your CPU... meh



Is there anything else that you might suggest, or on the other hand, do you think that I am close to hitting the wall as far as cooling this thing is concerned? If you were interested in reading the "Added Thermaltake..." link in my signature takes you to TabletPCReview (NBR sister site) where I posted on my installation of the heatsink and sticker removal, with the results of those mods (pages 1 and 3 have the numbers).

 

The Notepal Infinite is an option. I have heard success stories in the forums, but also less successful ones. But the m1530 is an odd one, none the less the notepal is a well priced cooler.

My T8300 is around 30C right now. I am usually around 10C above ambient. Thats a HP8510p with stock thermal paste, undervolted, with a cooler. 28C is an excellent temperature! The lowest I have got mine is about 25/26C in a room with windows wide open in the winter. I probably could have gotten even low had I turned my cooler on full speed.

 

So, I guess I had some misconceptions about undervolting. I went through this cooling thread and linked over to your undervolting forum.... all I can say is WOW! I have been running Prime95 for the past 17 minutes and my temp is a constant 61-63c. I ran superpi with my CPU undervolted and it increased by 3 seconds from 45 to 48. I realize that superpi isn't the best benchmarking utility, but for a down and dirty test I have found it isn't bad. Oddly though, RMclock reports a decrease on the CPU core clock and throttle from ~2.5ghz to 2.4ghz when I am undervolting... do any of you have an explanation? The pic below shows what I am talking about, and shows a pretty significant drop in temp from a non-undervolted state to a undervolted one. Thanks



PS:
These temps are down from an average of ~70-71c before undervolting... not bad IMHO

 

PSS:
After a restart, my idle temps have been holding @ 25c with an ambient temp of 21c

 

So, I've been hanging out on the notebook review forums, and I've been educated. I had some misconceptions about what undervolting was and what it does to the computer. I thought that by undervolting the computer would take a performance hit... this just wasn't the case. I've been running RMClock for the past 36 hours now with no ill effects (besides a few BSOD while figuring out where the stable voltages were)... including an 8 hour Prime95 torture test being run last night. My IDLE temp is now 25-27c and my Prime95 temp has dropped 5c to ~65-67c.

Here is a chart of my last 3 hours of usage


and here is my RMClock settings for my CPU (an Intel T9300)


I think that I'm getting close to hitting the cooling "wall". The ambient temp in the room is 21c, and I do not believe that I will be able to narrow these numbers much more than what I have done already... but we'll see.

 

Very nice! Success! I have just been trying alittle bit more undervolting too, the top 12X multiplier for my T8300 is now 0.9875V. so far so good. Will report some temps later.

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?

Alienware M9750

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)

T7200 @ 2.24ghz
2 GB G.skill RAM
SLI 7950 GTX
hitatchi 7k200
fujitsu 80 gig 7200 rpm


3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)

CPU max temp is around 77ºC depending on if i'm OC or not. currently i'm OC to 2.24ghz. idle temps go down to 58ºC i have undervolted my OC cpu's.

GPU's has maxed out to 96ºC recently, which has caused me to be cautious. they normally hit 85ºC but recently, they've been getting up to 90ºC. no artifacts or problems are being caused, but i just don't want my GPU's frying. I had DOX's 180.84.1 drivers, and then switched to 181.00 drivers, and now i have the 185.28 drivers. these drivers are the ones which have produced the max temps of 96ºC. the others have gotten around 88-90ºC, which does bother me.

HDD stays at about 31ºC and the other at 33ºC

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )

thermal paste? i have never changed it and i've had the notebook since 12 December 2007, so i'm wondering if this is recommended.

I have an NZXT Cryo LX cooler so a notebook cooler is not needed.

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)

Intermediate to Expert

any suggestions? i feel 90º is too high, and i want to get it back down to low-mid 80º.

 

I tried dropping mine to 1.000 but it just wasn't happening... oh well. I'm still very pleased with the results and so glad I learned about this. Good luck with your attempts.

 

My CPU temp (C2D T7500) hits 60-65C when gaming. Is that temp safe? When surfing it's at 45 - 50C.

 

60-65 is perfectly fine. Standard temps are ok, but can be alittle lower. Have you tried undervolting? Also, what notebook is it?

 

Thanks. I have not tried undervolting. My notebook is a HP dv6500t Special Edition with a T7500 and 128 MB 8400M GS.

 

I posted this in Tablet PC Review, but maybe someone here will find it helpful/useful.

OK, so I think I've done my last mod for a while with the addition of a fan to my Toshiba docking station. I had to do some cutting and gluing (and it looks pretty bad right now, next week I'll sand it down I think. I'll also need to put down some rubber feet on the bottom to raise it up a little (I've got it sitting up on a couple of CD cases to assist with airflow). Even without the CD cases though I am seeing a drop from 38c to 25c while on the docking station (ambient temp 22c)... and I think this is worth the amateur look to the job and the burns to my knuckles from the soldering iron.

Now onto some of the build details: The hole I measured and cut with a dremel to the fans diameter. I then disassembled the docking station to access the PCB. I ended up choosing the 5v fan because of the ability to tap directly into the USB power. I soldered the leads to the PCB where the USB port is attached. Next I glued the adjustable slide into position, waited for it to set, then cut out a space on the bottom to fit the fan into (the slider comes up too far otherwise). The fan itself is situated directly under the RAM door cover where I had removed the sticker (I do not think the docking station mod would have been effective without it's removal due to the limited airflow). The fan itself I glued to the dock... I hated to do it, but I did not have the proper sized screws and I am impatient.





What I really like is having a "cooling pad" without having to deal with plugging anything in. Since this is the docking station the USB is not powered until the tablet is plugged in, so the fan does not come on until the tablet is mounted.

 

Where did you get the 5v fan?

 

Dear NBR Cooling Team,

I really appreciate your thread and advise. I've been searching for cooler reviews but haven't found any good ones. Yours is the first thorough one. ConsumerSearch.com should hire you.

I would be thankful for any advise you can give me regarding my notebook.

Thanks and God bless you.
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1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
HP Pavilion dv5t-1100 CTO 15"

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
- HP Pavilion dv5t Entertainment Notebook
- Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
- Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor P8400 (2.26 GHz)
- 15.4" diagonal WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
- FREE Upgrade to 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
- 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 9200M GS
- FREE Upgrade to 250GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
- Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card
- No Modem
- SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
- No TV Tuner w/remote control
- 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
I do not know anything about these temperatures. I just read them off of HWmonitor.

ACPI= Max: 38C (100F)/Min: 36C (96F)
CPU= Core #0: Max: 31C (87F)/Min: 30C (86F)
Core #1: Max: 29C (84F)/Min 27C (80F)
GPU= Max: 38C (100F)/Min: 37C (98F)
HDD= Max: 43C (109F)/Min: 42C (107F)

I have the same exact placement of vents in this picture, located on your 'Notebook Coolers' thread.

However, I don't know if this picture represents a 17" or 15" notebook. Again, I have a 15".



The area around the touchpad (below the keyboard, where my hands rest) gets very hot when playing games.

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
Fan coolers/passive and/or whatever you suggest

5. Budget for cooling solutions?
Reasonable price. Under $100.

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Beginner

 

can you please find the max temps under load? (ie. gaming or bench marking) From your numbers, there is no way they are you max, looks like idles temps to me.

 

1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
ASUS G1S-AK074C

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
T7700 2,4Ghz,
2GB(1024MB*2),
200GB HD SATA 7200 rpm,
NV GeForce 8600 DDR3,
S-Multi DL Light Scribe,
LCD 15,4" WSXGA+ Glare,
WLAN, BT,
Webcam 1.3M,
HDMI.

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
IDLE: CPU 65° GPU 60° (super performance - power-management)
GAMING: CPU 82° GPU 95° (super performance - power-management)

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
I have already cleaned the fan with good result... at first i would know the best cooler pad for my laptop (ZALMAN NC2000???), then any trick will be appreciated

5. Budget for cooling solutions?
100€ (+/-)

6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
expert

thanks in advance!

 

Undervolting woudl be the next step. The G1S' GPU cooling isn't great. The Notepal infinite should work well. It certainly worked well with my friend's G1S.

 

Should I buy a cooler as standard when buying a new laptop, or should I wait until I see what temperatures are being produced?

For example, if I were to buy a top of the range gaming laptop do I go for the cooler immediately?

Thanks!

 

Not all laptops overheat, it depends what kind of laptop you have.

 

The temp doesn't seem too bad, I'd go for abit of unvolting.

 

ok, how about a Dell M1730 or a Kobalt Comanche, both sli and full spec with the latest CPU AND GPU options?

 

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1. What notebook do you own/going to own (Make and Model)?
HP pavillion DV5-1157ca

2. Specs of the notebook (List Details Please)
P7350 2.0ghz 1066mhz fsb 3mb cache (penryn according to CPUZ)
4gb 667mhz ram
9600m gt 512ram
320gb 5400rpm

3. Maximum and minimum temperature of CPU/GPU/HDD in Celsius and if possible idle and load times (see software guide)
my max was around 85 C and idle was around 40c and load times are 1min 45 s to start up

4. What sort of cooling solutions are you looking for? (active solutions (fan coolers/passive, thermal paste...etc) )
software
5. Budget for cooling solutions?
$0
6. Your general computer knowledge (Beginner to Expert)
Intermediate

basically, are there any software solutions to better cooling? i already underclocked from 1.15v to 1v and cut off 12c from max temps and 10c from min temps. any other solutions?

 

also, i am idling around 30c and my fan is still going. i can hear it

 

Are you willing to pay for a cooler? If not, elevate the back of the notebook with bottle caps or something alike.

 

I think no1 wrote here about ambient temperature. I never tested but do you think the ambient temperature influences a notebook?
for me in the peak of the summer with 40ºC I had to add 2 more fans into my desktop so it wouldn't crash due to temperature. Though it was always overclocked both cpu and gpu.

 

Of course it would have an influence.............................

The bigger the difference between air temp and internal temp, the more heat will get transferred from the warmer to the cooler.

 

My S96J is going nuts temperature wise, I've already reapplied AS5 to both the CPU and GPU. I think I put a little too much on, but anyways the fans are going crazy, they kick into high and very high quite often while doing intense tasks. The system NEVER used to do this about a year ago. The system is free of dust, but now I can't go back and reapply AS5 because one of the screws holding the heatsink is stripped and can't be removed.

Mind you I had applied AS5 prior to the last time I did it, back then it did not have any overheating problems so my application must have been correct. Although it didn't really differ much from what I did this time.

It's not overheating to the point of shutting down, but the fans are getting maxed out. This laptop is nearing the end of it's life when it comes to intense tasks I fear. Well it's just about time for that to have been happening anyways...had to RMA the motherboard on my desktop so I've been using the laptop a lot again like I used to. I'll replace my laptop with an eee pc for college, but I'll keep my S96J around for light tasks.

 

What sort of temps are you getting? Please attach a HWmonitor screen shot or the like.

 

CPU's going up to about 86c, I can't tell you about anything else because there are no other temperature sensors. I know the max temp of the T2400 is about 100c. Not much I can do at this point I think...

 

I see. Have you undervolted? That might improve the situation for now.