Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
Question, would you invest in the design and engineering a more relaxed thermal throttle algorithm on a cool running chip?......
The pascal thermal throttle point did send clocks through the floor but the solution for when I was running +power modded 1070s on 75w heatsinks was either less power, or more cooling...
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NVIDIA Segregates Turing GPUs; Factory Overclocking Forbidden on the Cheaper Variant Techpowerup.com | Monday, September 17th 2018 12:22
While working on GPU-Z support for NVIDIA's RTX 20-series graphics cards, we noticed something curious. Each GPU model has not one, but two device IDs assigned to it. A device ID is a unique identification that tells Windows which specific device is installed, so it can select and load the relevant driver software. It also tells the driver, which commands to send to the chip, as they vary between generations. Last but not least, the device ID can be used to enable or lock certain features, for example in the professional space. Two device IDs per GPU is very unusual. For example, all GTX 1080 Ti cards, whether reference or custom design, are marked as 1B06. Titan Xp on the other hand, which uses the same physical GPU, is marked as 1B02. NVIDIA has always used just one ID per SKU, no matter if custom-design, reference or Founders Edition.
We reached out to industry sources and confirmed that for Turing, NVIDIA is creating two device IDs per GPU to correspond to two different ASIC codes per GPU model (for example, TU102-300 and TU102-300-A for the RTX 2080 Ti). The Turing -300 variant is designated to be used on cards targeting the MSRP price point, while the 300-A variant is for use on custom-design, overclocked cards. Both are the same physical chip, just separated by binning, and pricing, which means NVIDIA pretests all GPUs and sorts them by properties such as overclocking potential, power efficiency, etc.
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When a board partner uses a -300 Turing GPU variant, factory overclocking is forbidden. Only the more expensive -30-A variants are meant for this scenario. Both can be overclocked manually though, by the user, but it's likely that the overclocking potential on the lower bin won't be as high as on the higher rated chips. Separate device IDs could also prevent consumers from buying the cheapest card, with reference clocks, and flashing it with the BIOS from a faster factory-overclocked variant of that card (think buying an MSI Gaming card and flashing it with the BIOS of Gaming X).
All Founders Edition and custom designs that we could look at so far, use the same -300-A GPU variant, which means the device ID is not used to separate Founders Edition from custom design cards.
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NVIDIA GeForce 2080 Ti and GeForce RTX 2080 Performance in Final Fantasy XV Benchmark Leaks Out – Flagship Faster Than The Titan V at 4K
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Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti trounces Pascal and Volta GPUs in leaked benchmarks
Last-gen Titan cards reduced to graphical gnats
https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...es-pascal-and-volta-gpus-in-leaked-benchmarks
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What time is the NDA lifting today? That means official reviews for these cards will be out today!
I asked over on Guru3d after I couldn't really find any specifics through Google, and someone said it's 16:00 Finland time, which would make it 2pm here in the UK (BST - British Summer Time). That's the only info I've got, not sure if it's accurate, anyone got any official word on time of NDA lifting today?
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UFD Team Stream - RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti Reviews Are Out!
UFD Tech
Started streaming 1 minute ago
Tech YES City's review shows the 1080ti beating the 2080 in some games, more with 1080ti OC vs 2080 OC... he considers the 2080 a draw vs the 1080ti, and the 1080ti has more VRAM! and costs less...very interesting:
RTX 2080 Vs. GTX 1080 Ti - Not what I expected...
Tech YES City
Published on Sep 19, 2018
Here is the first of NVIDIA's brand new RTX line up of Graphics Cards and today we have the RTX 2080 OC from Gigabyte. I am sure you are curious to see how it stacks up against a GTX 1080 Ti, so I compare them head to head at 1440p ultrawide and 4K, and throw in some 'different' kind of benchmarks. Though the 11GB of VRAM of GDDR5X vs the 8GB of GDDR6 on the RTX 2080 for $100 more, doesn't make it too strong a proposition for people wanting the 'latest and greatest'.....
Hardware Unboxed also arrived at similar results for the 2080 vs 1080ti, with all 3 resolutions giving similar results, here's the 1440p comparison - check out the video for the rest of the results:
1080ti @ $500 used is the same performance as the 2080 @ $800++ (~$850), with new 1080ti's $625-$725
With no DLSS or RT enabled games available at launch, I'd still recommend the 1080ti used (or new if you must), and skip the highly overpriced 2080ti ($1100-$1300!!) until the prices drop - maybe when the Titan 2000 arrives?, or when the new / used 1080ti's sell out.
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Wow, there are a ton of 1080ti's for sale on ebay now, starting below $500, about 253 @ $450-$650 ("Buy it Now", no bidding needed), many in the low - mid $500's.
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Hey, we can't all be perfect all of the time... plus, what if they turn out to be "correct"? Eurocom was the first out of the gate with the Intel 8 core CPU / z390 info long ago. Maybe Eurocom know's something's you all don't know?
Besides, whatever name the next generation laptop GPU eventually takes on - 1180 / 2080 - it doesn't really matter - I don't see a full RTX GPU coming to most laptops, maybe in name, but not intact in performance, as not even an RTX 2070 would fit the power / thermal limitations of most laptops - RTX 2070 185w / 175w (Founders / AIB) on the desktop:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2070/
So given the lack of a "name" available for a subpar RTX laptop GPU, which might turn out to be a new "GTX" rather than "RTX" GPU, the name 1180 works as well as anything else for now to describe the "next" generation laptop 1080, using GTX 2080 might be confusing.
IDK what @Eurocom Support has to say about this, I wasn't going to bother them, but given all the huffing and puffing about their helpful innocent attempts to communicate, maybe they can set us all straight on what's what for laptop next gen GPU's and 9xxx CPU's?
Yup, that is a result of the @Eurocom Support quotes, unknown where @Eurocom Support got that info from, perhaps early info that hadn't been corrected since?
I am sure when Eurocom comes out with their 99xxk + GTX / RTX / 1180 / 2080 laptop(s) they will indeed have real components and real names for them upon release.
Source link(s)? Nvidia driver deconstruct, or?
That doesn't make sense, given the power / cooling requirements for the desktop RTX 2080 - 225w / 215w (Founders / AIB):
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2080/
How is that going to fit in all the laptops with a "laptop" 1080? Laptop 200w / 180w / 150w 1080's are already running hot, adding another 25w / 45w / 75w is going to be even worse.
Ah, found a "source":
Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile sighting hints at more powerful gaming laptops
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-mobile-gpu-max-q/
TU104M
https://devicehunt.com/view/type/pci/vendor/10DE/device/1EAB
TU104M [GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile]
https://devicehunt.com/view/type/pci/vendor/10DE/device/1EAE
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Well, it's all over now. No one else needs to purchase a 2080ti, as "Kingpin" has taken the World Records with a 2080ti on liquid nitrogen, and now the rest of us can happily purchase sensible cost effective models of the 10 series, as the "benchmarking" competition is over.
Heavily overclocked RTX 2080 Ti steals every 3DMark record
By Jon Martindale — Posted on September 20, 2018 - 6:26AM
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/overclocked-rtx-2080-ti-3dmark/
"Nvidia’s new RTX-series graphics cards might have fallen short of the performance hype that Nvidia pushed at its original Gamescom reveal, but the top-tier RTX 2080 Ti has some serious power and it seems, serious overclocking potential, too.
Thanks to a hefty dose of liquid nitrogen, one overclocker has managed to push the flagship card to new heights. As a reward for his efforts, he’s managed to take the top spot on every modern 3DMark benchmark.
In terms of stock speed, the RTX 2080 is roughly comparable to the 1080 Ti, and the 2080 Ti is more like a Titan enhancement than the typical Ti revamp of an architecture.
Perhaps that’s why it was so capable of demolishing the scores of Titan V graphics-powered rigs which have dominated the rankings of 3DMark results for the past year. It took a heavy overclock and some liquid nitrogen to do it, but that does nothing to diminish the results.
Overclocker Vince “Kingpin” Lucido has been a major figure in the hardware overclocking scene for years and especially so when it comes to extreme cooling. He famously overclocked the GTX 1080 Ti to more than 3GHz last year and now has an impressive RTX 2080 Ti overclock feather to put in his cap, too.
Under extreme liquid nitrogen cooling, he pushed his 2080 Ti to 2,415MHz, according to WCCFTech. That’s a notable improvement over the stock Founders Edition clock of 1,635 MHz.
That, plus a hefty memory overclock, meant that Kingpin was able to steal the spot in Time Spy Extreme testing, beating out the Titan V-powered competition by more than 500 points.
He’s top of the Fire Strike Ultra rankings, too, with a lead of more than a thousand points, and Fire Strike Extreme by an even greater margin.
Although we would expect to see other overclockers reach similar scores in the days and weeks to come as more cards proliferate out through the hardware enthusiast crowd, the big takeaway should be the impressive overclocking potential of the 2080 Ti.
Although it is expensive, if powerful cooling solutions can be brought to bear, it seems that its performance headroom is far greater than the stock clocks would suggest. Liquid nitrogen isn’t a viable everyday solution, but if a high-wattage watercooling loop can keep it from getting too hot, long term overclocks should certainly be possible."Last edited: Sep 25, 2018 -
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NVIDIA Stock Falls 2.1% After Turing GPU Reviews Fail to Impress Morgan Stanley
by VSG Today, 01:35
NVIDIA's embargo on their Turing-based RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti ended Wednesday, September 19 and it appears that enthusiasts were not the only ones left wanting more from these graphics cards. In particular, Morgan Stanley analyst Joseph Moore shared a note today (Thursday, September 20) with company clients saying "As review embargos broke for the new gaming products, performance improvements in older games is not the leap we had initially hoped for. Performance boost on older games that do not incorporate advanced features is somewhat below our initial expectations, and review recommendations are mixed given higher price points." The NVIDIA Corporation share value on the NASDAQ exchange had closed at $271.98 (USD) Wednesday and immediately tumbled down to a low of $264.10 opening today before recovering to close at $266.28, down 2.1% over the previous closure.
The Morgan Stanley report further mentioned that "We are surprised that the 2080 is only slightly better than the 1080ti, which has been available for over a year and is slightly less expensive. With higher clock speeds, higher core count, and 40% higher memory bandwidth, we had expected a bigger boost." Accordingly, the market analyst expects a slower adoption of these new GPUs as well as no expectation of "much upside" from NVIDIA's gaming business unit for the next two quarters. Despite all this, Morgan Stanley remains bullish on NVIDIA and expects a $273 price point in the long term.
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Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti plus liquid nitrogen equals world records smashed
https://www.techspot.com/news/76574-nvidia-rtx-2080-ti-plus-liquid-nitrogen-equals.html
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GeForce RTX 2080 Overclocking Guide, Our Results & Performance
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Sep 23, 2018
MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio Review, Overclocking, Temps & Gaming Benchmarks
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Sep 22, 2018
RTX 2080 Ti Review Roundup and Analysis
AdoredTV
Published on Sep 20, 2018
Turing looks great on paper...but what about those prices?
The Used Graphics Card Market is GLORIOUS Right Now!
Science Studio
Published on Sep 22, 2018
The used graphics card market is GLORIOUS right now! If you're in dire need of an upgrade, consider eBay, etc. for your next purchase! I purchased two GTX 980 Ti AMP! Extremes and an EVGA 1080 SC all for $800 in total. You can find even better deals if you're patient.
Kyle updated his FPS/$ chart based on "real" prices vs MSRP BS pricing, I don't think he picked high enough prices for the 2080 / 2080ti - $789 / $1169 should be $849 / $1249 which is the likely entry price for in stock RTX cards moving forward, maybe even higher, but his chart is now more believable:
Also it seems Kyle's 1080ti is a poorer performing example if he is seeing higher performance from the 2080, even if it's only 10%, maybe he should OC his 1080ti to make up the difference.
RTX LAUNCH PRICES SUCK
Bitwit
Published on Sep 20, 2018
The RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti are here but their starting MSRPs are nowhere to be found. Now that inflated launch prices have landed it's time to re-evaluate how much bang for the buck these cards offer to someone building a gaming PC right now.
Interesting, it took Nvidia 1 year from release of Pascal 10 series to provide web download drivers for MacOS... and the estimate is the same for the Turning 20 series, and Nvidia GPU's have been problematic, while Apple has been accelerating AMD GPU support and they are more stable.
Hackintosh Update- Fall 2018: MacOS Mojave. Nvidia 2080 Ti. AMD Vega
Peter Paul Chato
Published on Sep 21, 2018
142- What's in store for Hackintoshing with the release of Apple MacOS Mojave and Intel Gen 9 CPUs? What's the best hardware to buy now? AMD is the most stable GPU and provides the easiest OS compatible upgrades.
List of compatible motherboards, CPUs, Nvidia and AMD GPUs. www.tonymacx86.com Don't forget to donate.
Tariff's of 10% are in effect starting on September 24th, tomorrow!
Cards already shipped aren't affected, so that would be only Series 10 Nvidia GPU's...?
2080ti's Tariff of 10% of $1249 + $125 = $1400 USD !!
2080's Tariff of 10% of $849 + $85 = $935 USD !!
January 1, 2019 the Tariff's go to 25%!!
R.I.P. Nvidia...
How Much NVIDIA RTX MSRP Will Be Affected By Tariffs?
WccftechTV
Published on Sep 23, 2018
Article: https://wccftech.com/exclusive-nvidia-rtx-msrp-tariffs/
We have an update on how much the cost of NVIDIA graphics cards is going to go up in the near future due to the impact of the tariffs imposed on $200 billion of goods manufactured in China.
It's about to become MORE expensive to build a PC.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/9i7t95/its_about_to_become_more_expensive_to_build_a_pc/
"Tariffs on China begin tomorrow (Monday the 24th) Starting at 10% with the threat of going to 25% January 1st.
Building a PC is about to get more expensive. https://imgur.com/gallery/ivJqTNe
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Prices of GPU's will increase about 200 Dollar according to German news site
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9i8m4u/prices_of_gpus_will_increase_about_200_dollar/
Expensive graphics cards - US President Trump ensures even higher prices
Many gamers think the prices for the latest graphics cards are already too high, but in the US threatens a significant price increase - and perhaps in Europe.
by Georg Wieselsberger , 23.09.2018 09:56
https://www.gamestar.de/artikel/gra...p-sorgt-fuer-noch-hoehere-preise,3335021.html
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If The Onion did tech pieces... I like it
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So... What Do We Do Now?
Paul's Hardware
Published on Sep 25, 2018
So... What Do We Do Now?
1080ti beats out the 2080 once again... but the AMD Vega cards are clearly winning this performance test:
RTX 2080 MONERO (+other Cryptonight coins) Mining Hashrate|Power usage |RX VEGA|RTX 1080 Ti|GTX 1070
Benchmark PC Tech - MultiTechnopark
Published on Sep 24, 2018
Why Did Nvidia Use HDR to Compare Pascal & Turing? HDR vs. SDR Performance RevisitedRTX 2080 MONERO mining Hashrate & Power consumption on RX VEGA 64 | RX VEGA 56 | RTX 2080 | GTX 1080 Ti | 1080 | 1070 | 1060 | 1050 Ti | 980 Ti | 980 | 970 | 960 | RX 580 | RX570 | RX 480 | RX 470 |RX 460 | R9 390X | R9 380X | R9 290X | R9 280X Tested : MONERO ( XMR ) using Cryptonight algorithm. Same hashrate for other Cryptonight coins like Loki (LOKI), BitTube (TUBE), TurtleCoin (TRTL), Leviar (XLC), Lethean (LTHN), Masari (MSR), Stellite (XTL), GRAFT (GRFT), Aeon (AEON), Ryo Currency (RYO), Haven Protocol (XHV), Electroneum (ETN), Sumokoin (SUMO), Bytecoin (BCN). Power consumption on Watts per hour.
tl;dw Nvidia inflated the difference between pascal and turing using turings native HDR pipeline, and the few games that benefit turing filled out the comparison chart - all other HDR and SDR games are unaffected and the 1080ti beats the 2080. Conclusion: 1080ti still advised over 2080 for price performance.
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Sep 24, 2018
GTA 5 RTX 2080 Vs GTX 1080 TI Vs GTX 1080 Frame Rate Comparison
DudeRandom84
Published on Sep 24, 2018
Thanks for watching, I will be testing the RTX 2080 TI once it's released this week.
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Nvidia Thread
Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by Dr. AMK, Jul 4, 2017.
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