Nvidia Thread

"RTX sales are through the roof!" - Jensen probably
See link for view of huge RTX overstock...
https://www.reddit.com/r/AyyMD/comments/9vnifl/rtx_sales_are_through_the_roof_jensen_probably/


Seeing, that I think sitting back and letting Nvidia stew in all that overstock, with vendors holding back delivery of new stock, until Nvidia drops the prices a couple of times.

 

Wonder what place has that many? I did not see any link for the place where they are for sale.

 

Just bought two 1080 ti's but still not sure if i should go 2080 ti instead
Submitted 5 hours ago by pom-jam
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9vz6ps/just_bought_two_1080_tis_but_still_not_sure_if_i/

"As someone who's always played on the mid range cards i'm just tired of not having the best of the best. Right now i'm really not fond of the 2080 ti's price, but the double 1080 ti's for the same price seems way more appealing. Not really sure where i'm going with this thread. What would you guys do in my place? Does the 2080 ti's price not bother you?"

pom-jam "RTX 2080 - the hate my money card" 5 points 1 day ago
"i'm ditching rtx for this setup. I've never had sli before in my life, but i'm excited to see how much it will kick the 2080 ti butt"

The SLI-haters came out in force, but the multi-GPU development and support continues to evolve with Nvidia investing in even higher speed SLI and AMD supporting even higher speed Crossfire on PCIE 4.0.

And, plenty of legacy and current games support SLI:

5 Modern Games That Support SLI to Test Your System On
By Brent Hale on August 8, 2018
https://techguided.com/games-that-support-sli/

SLI Optimised Games
https://www.nvidia.in/object/sli-technology-games-in.html

Great SLI bits thread, been around since 2011, still active in 2018, including Battlefield V SLI profile sharing (use Google Translater for your browser):

SLI compatibility bits - collection thread
https://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=11849215#post11849215

 

What's up with all the AMD nonsense?

 

You are confused, AMD stuff is here:

AMD's Ryzen CPU's (Ryzen/TR/Epyc) & Vega/Polaris GPU's
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-epyc-vega-polaris-gpus.799348/#post-10818056

Ryzen vs i7 (Mainstream); Threadripper vs i9 (HEDT); X299 vs X399; Xeon vs Epyc
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-vs-i9-hedt-x299-vs-x399-xeon-vs-epyc.805695/

Acer Predator (Vega 56+Ryzen 2) Helios 500
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/acer-predator-vega-56-ryzen-2-helios-500.817796/

Asus ROG GL702ZC owners lounge
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/asus-rog-gl702zc-owners-lounge.809882/

Due to the recent Intel / Nvidia product release failures, perhaps you are "seeing" things, AMD is appearing to you as your salvation forward?... premonitions?

Next Horizon - Epyc is EPYC!
AdoredTV
Published on Nov 8, 2018
It's a bad week to be an Intel fanboy.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ga-polaris-gpus.799348/page-521#post-10818056

 

LOL, not hardly. Still waiting for them to offer something worth buying. Maybe some day, but I am not optimistic, especially where GPUs are concerned. A "flagship" that is compared to a GTX 1060 is pretty pathetic.

I'm talking about the bot troll that keeps posting the same stupid drivel over and over again in those threads.

 

My beautiful 2018 build before disaster
Submitted 6 hours ago by traxor06
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9vydtv/my_beautiful_2018_build_before_disaster/?sort=new

traxor06[ S] 100 points 6 hours ago
"Before both MSI RTX 2080 Ti X Gaming Trio cards broke within the first week without any overclocking. I usually try to make sure the system is stable before overclocking.

They died without doing anything. The first one black scenes on boot and the second one is all pixilated at 800x600 resolution. I'm very sad. These were very difficult to get ahold of..."

traxor06[ S] 2 points 4 hours ago
"I saw a gamer Nexus saying the problems were from vsync so I turned that off and got in the shower. When I got out the screen was black and unresponsive. I rebooted the computer and got a motherboard boot logo but Windows wouldn't load. I took it to the local computer shop where they extensively tested it. It corrupted windows. They put the card in a separate test bench and it was dead."

traxor06[ S] 1 point 4 hours ago
"Through extensive talking with MSI customer support they wanted to be very clear that if I RMA'd through them I would only be getting refurbished 2080 Ti's. I just sent them back to the seller for a refund. I probably will be able to find them cheaper later on anyways"

More posts there of FE and non-FE cards dying...

Spoiler

Slopz_i7-6700k | 1080ti Strix | 16 GB RAM | 1440p | 6TB HDD | 500Gb SSD 7 points an hour ago
"Guess they're RMA2080Ti cards now."

Artunius 3 points 4 hours ago
"I'm scared ****less now, like I'm running a ticking timebomb with these Micron DDR6 chips. Not OC'ed or anything, either."

 

Heads up... might be nothing, but might be something to look out for with Nvidia Store returns:

OMG I think Nvidia just refused to do a refund for me.
Submitted 1 day ago by yhc1994
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9vr2bs/omg_i_think_nvidia_just_refused_to_do_a_refund/?sort=new

"Hi everyone,

I am trying to return a RTX 2080 FE on Nvidia online store and just want to share you guys a ridiculous story.

I submitted my return request on 26-Sep, and received a RMA number and return label on 12-Oct (16 days later)

Then I returned it on 15-Oct and it shows they have received my returned card on 17-Oct, so I thought now everything is fine and I could get my refund soon.

But no I am totally wrong, I have contacted them so many times but still no any refund for me.

Finally, today, they sent me an email and created another RMA number and return label to me and let me return the card back to them, but now I have no any cards can return to them.

So I guess this is the end of story, since there is no any help by contacting their customer service they just know to let me wait and cannot do anything, I am so tired now, will never purchase anything on Nvidia online store again."

Spoiler

glydien 1 point 11 hours ago
"They’ve had my return since Oct 24th. No refund as of yet. Emailed them and they said they received my return and to wait ANOTHER 5 to 7 days for the refund. I’ll give it another week then I’ll be disputing with my CC company. Pretty ridiculous how slow this company is with returns. And the lack of communication from them is embarrassing."

ambientcloud 12 points 1 day ago
"This scares the **** out of me as they have my card now and I am waiting for the money. I tracked the package on UPS and Nvidia received the card on Wed 7th. From there, Nvidia has 5-7 business days to issue a refund. Now I wonder if the timeframe I got from them with such confidence is even obligatory..."

ltron2 9 points 1 day ago
"This is insane, how can a rich successful company like Nvidia provide such shocking customer service. This is the worst I've ever encountered. I'm still waiting for my return label after 17 days, I really hope this is not what lies in store for me and that you get your money back."

 

Outcasst[ S] 1 point 1 day ago
"Just an update, I have now been waiting 21 days since initiating the return process and I haven't even got an RMA number or an address to send the card to yet."

Amazon order canceled
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9w16yl/amazon_order_canceled/?sort=new

Go to the post to see the Amazon Order Update letter he got... after 2.5 months of preorder...

magichands88 35 points 13 hours ago
"How long had you been waiting?"

HeavensMandate [ S] 50 points 13 hours ago
"8/28"

TheElasticTuba 56 points 12 hours ago
"You preordered in August and you still didn’t get your card or at least a cancellation before now? I’d take it up with Amazon or MSI customer support. There’s no acceptable reason to be left waiting for 2 and a half months after ordering."

ARabidGuineaPig 32 points 12 hours ago
"He's screwed. I got my order cancelled also. No way he's getting a spot back"

 

Yeah, Max-Q was a replacement for the old M branded mobile cards (Best way to increase the prices is adding useless changes).

There is now a Max-Q version for every mobile Pascal GeForce GPU currently in the market
Fast-forward 18 months and the Max-Q branding has now trickled down to the rest of the Pascal series. While it began life as a GTX 1080 Max-Q, a wide range of budget-mainstream gaming laptops are now sporting Max-Q GPUs including the Dell Inspiron 15series and the HP Omen 15t. The GTX 1050 Max-Q and GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q are still uncommon, but they can be found on the HP EliteBook 1050 G1 and XPS 15 9570, respectively. The GeForce MX150 also has a Max-Q variant even if Nvidia refuses to acknowledge it.

 

There's also the DDR4 version of the 1030 that performs like a MaxQ, not that Nvidia intended that.

 

The actual point of the article was to arrive at this conclusion:

"There is nothing left for Nvidia to unveil in terms of Max-Q and mobile GeForce Pascal. In other words, Nvidia's only logical direction at this point is to move forward in terms of performance with mobile Turing being a likely focus for CES 2019."

 

The RTX 2080 vs. the GTX 1080 Ti in VR
By Mark Poppin - November 12, 2018
https://babeltechreviews.com/the-rtx-2080-vs-the-gtx-1080-ti-in-vr/3/

Spoiler

"We don’t give a lot of credence to synthetic benchmarks as they only are useful for the engines they are designed with and they have little to do with actual play in games. However, we used Unigine’s Superposition VR benchmark and VRMark’s Cyan Room benchmarks to see where our GTX 1080 Ti and RTX 2080 supposedly rank in relation to each other.

If we go by these synthetic tests, the RTX 2080 should be a lot faster in VR than the GTX 1080 Ti. Let’s see if this holds true for our five VR test games.
....
Conclusion
We were totally surprised that although the synthetic benchmarks indicated that the RTX 2080 would be much faster than the GTX 1080 Ti, the five games that we tested indicated that both cards are currently in the same class with the older Pascal card slightly edging out the newer Turing card.

We suspect that Turing’s VR drivers may not yet be mature, and we will return to benching our two cards again with our full 25 VR game benchmark suite at a later date. We also will benchmark the Turing flagship, the RTX 2080 Ti, and also the RTX 2070, and we will compare them with AMD’s fastest cards, the RX Vega 64 liquid cooled edition and the Red Devil RX Vega 56 to see how they all fare in VR."

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9we1ub/the_rtx_2080_vs_the_gtx_1080_ti_in_vr/

Pimpmuckl FE 2080 TI, R7 1700 1 point 34 minutes ago
""We were totally surprised" that the 2080 wasn't faster in games"
None of these games got an engine update to use the new features of Turing. How is that surprising lol"

Crashboy96 1 point 25 minutes ago
"Except for any of the VR "features" that come with Turing to work, they have to be implemented by the developers. RTX is just another NVIDIA Hairworks — a cool technology that developers aren't implementing.

VRWorks isn't new or anything; NVIDIA's VRWorks was already aroundpreviously to Turing and practically no developers are integrating it. There are like a total of 4 VR games that use NVIDIA's VRWorks platform and they are mostly all propagated by NVIDIA.

These aren't really things that games can just "get an engine update" for, they have to be implemented during the development of the game.

There are very few game engines that have VRWorks available as well. Luckily there's some popular ones, but it generally isn't as easy as just flipping a switch."

Windows Update ???? RTX
Submitted 4 hours ago by Bodycount69x
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9wd1xo/windows_update_rtx/

Spoiler

"Has windows RTX patch been released ? I thought it was a Oct. release but I can't seem to find any info on it "

Freeloader_ 3 points 3 hours ago
"They had to pull it twice cause people were reporting many issues with it.

The fact that its still not here is only telling us that Microsoft is making sure it will be 100% okay this time. My personal opinion is that it will be here before the BF5 launches."

mithunnivas i7 7700(nonk) RTX 2080 TI TRIO 2 points 3 hours ago
"BF v is launched already and we are all playing it. but they it to be launched for the deluxe edition. damn."

Freeloader_ 4 points 3 hours ago
"its not an official launch, they promised RTX for day 0 which is 15th November"

MadBinton 2080Ti Ventus bitspower - 2080Ti Dual (RMA) - 2080TI FE (RMA)1 point 27 minutes ago
"I don't know, I'm already on 1809, but I haven't seen any mentions of incoming updates. Usually MS updates on Tuesdays, nothing is queued up yet...

Dice retracted that they would have RTX at launch a couple of months ago. I believe a month after they claimed that. And the latest thing they mentioned was that it might not even be coming in 2018 anymore. Probably in the second DLC in Feb '19? Before the PUBG mode supposedly. Can't recall which review mentioned that stuff, I believe something German."

GeForce RTX 2070 Available Now (RMA posts)
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...x-20-series/geforce-rtx-2070-available-now/2/

 

NVIDIA Deploys GP104 GPU for GDDR5X version of GeForce 1060
Techpowerup.com | Tuesday, November 13th 2018 19:45
NVIDIA has just shown us one of the most ingenious ways of creating new custom, competitive SKUs for the midrange market without spending any additional amounts of money on R&D, wiring, or memory controller work: just reuse the chips that already have that work done. This is the case for NVIDIA's new GTX 1060 GDDR5X graphics card, which the company has "designed" to further fill in the gaps on its midrange offerings against a revamped Radeon RX 590.

 

Only problem is that "new" 1060 is slower running than the current models.... weird, right? DDR5x memory is clocked slower too.

It's at best a wash in comparison with the current 1060's, so the Radeon RX 580 current edition should still keep it busy.

 

GDDR5X can operate in GDDR5 mode which is probably what's happening here. They probably just had excess GDDR5X inventory to move.

 

Nvidia is specifying it as DDR5/x in their specification:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1060/


GeForce GTX 1060 with GDDR5X memory confirmed to use GP104 GPU
Published: 13th Nov 2018, 16:14
https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-gtx-1060-with-gddr5x-memory-confirmed-to-use-gp104-gpu

"How did NVIDIA manage to support GDDR5X memory with GTX 1060? Well, it’s simple, they didn’t. What they did, however, was to rebrand GTX 1080 with much fewer cores enabled to GTX 1060. In other words, NVIDIA found a way to sell chips with as few as half of all cores enabled in the GPU, under GTX 1060 brand.

Interestingly, even the SLI fingers remain, which raises a question, will they work?

The card in question is iGame GTX 1060 U-TOP V2, which features a triple-fan cooling solution, dual 8-pin power connectors, and 8+2 phase design."

AMD Radeon RX 590 final specs, pricing and performance
Published: 13th Nov 2018, 18:22 GMT
https://videocardz.com/79007/amd-radeon-rx-590-final-specs-pricing-and-performance

" AMD Radeon RX 590 to cost 279 USD
Let’s start with the most important piece of information. The official MSRP for Radeon RX 590 is 279 USD. This is a suggested price for nonexisting reference model (I mean there is a slide with a reference design, but I’m pretty sure it won’t be available). That said, the 279 USD price tag is likely just a starting point.

The price of RX 590 is therefore 40 USD higher than RX 480 at launch and 50 USD higher than RX 580 at launch (we are talking about 8GB models here).

It is important to note that Radeon RX 590 will be offered with a ‘blockbuster launch bundle’, with three ‘free’ titles included: Devil May Cry 5 (unreleased) The Division 2 and Resident Evil 2 (unreleased).

The presentation has many references to AMD ecosystem, especially FreeSync monitors. AMD is advertising their GPU+display solution as ~200 USD cheaper than competitions’.

RX 590: 12% better performance vs RX 580
Thanks to refined Polaris architecture now utilizing 12nm fabrication process, AMD has managed to squeeze 12% more performance and 15% higher clock speeds out of Polaris silicon. These are official figures straight from the slide.

The following tests were conducted with: Intel i7 7700K, 16GB DDR4 3000 MHz, AMD Driver 18.40, Windows 10. AMD also used GeForce 416.34 and 399.24 driver in various tests. The footnotes have more details, including 3DMark results, which I added below.

All tests were performed at a 1080p resolution with ‘maximum settings’.

Remember these are official tests performed by AMD employees. Independent reviews will be available on November 15th:

 

https://twitter.com/EA_DICE/status/1062635899786276864?s=20

Battlefield V Ray Tracing now enabled! It’s happening!!!!

https://twitter.com/EA_DICE/status/1062635899786276864?s=20

Initial reports are that they fixed DX12. No more stutters and higher FPS.

Reports of 50-80fps at 3440x1440p with RTX. Huge improvement from 1080p we saw. So like I figured they improved the performance. This will likely be further improved with patches as this is the first implementation of RTX in any game.

 

Cool, that's good news too re performance increase! Test it & let us know! Can you test 1080p too, to let us know how much they improved it from their 60fps ray tracing target?

 

Cool, please run it and let us know how it looks, and if it is worth the $1300 for the RTX effects.

Please post video(s) of your favorite RTX On parts too; let us see RTX On / Off, so far no (youtube) videos have been posted of release game play with RTX On.

 

NVIDIA RTX Benchmarks in Battlefield V - RAY TRACING PERFORMANCE!
Joker Productions
Published on Nov 14, 2018
Ray tracing is FINALLY benchmarked in Battlefield V with the NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti paired up with the Intel i9 9900K at ULTRA settings to see if RTX is really worth is and what the performance impact really is.


Pinned by Joker Productions
Joker Productions 5 hours ago
"I T J U S T F A I L S !"

[RTX] Battlefield V - Ultra Ray Tracing 4k
Zurvv
Published on Nov 14, 2018
Battlefield 5 on the PC running in 4k with Ultra settings. (That is Ray Tracing Ultra too.)
There is a massive performance hit when turning on Ray Tracing. From a solid 60fps at 4k (with it off) to mid-20s (with it on.) I can't really tell the difference between the "fake" ray tracing and the hardware RTX tray tracing.
It clearly isn't worth playing the game at such low FPS. (and with no clear improvement in PQ.)
That said, SLI would help a ton. But, as of now, SLI isn't support in DX12 in BFV. (dx12 is required for RT.)

Spoiler: Click to See Video

To see the same gameplay without Ray Tracing:

Spoiler: Click to See Video

Zurvv 5 hours ago (edited)
"What is interesting is the frame time. The same scene with and without RT is 14.5ms vs 35.6ms (with RT). Please correct me, but i think you need under 17ms frame time to get 60fps. Is it just a horse power issue that is keeping the fps low? or is RT adding so much to the rendering pipe ( 35.6ms is crazy) that no matter the speed or the number of cuda cores, the RTX core is going to limit RT? shrug I never expected much from RT. For me DLSS (if that ever makes it into something) if the tech that i'm looking forward to."

westyk52sparky 5 hours ago
"lol rtx 2080 ti turned into a potato"

Raytracing in Battlefield 5: Live first reactions
PCWorld
Streamed live 104 minutes ago
Gordon and Adam go live to check out raytracing in Battlefield 5 on an RTX 2080 Ti and Core i9-9900K.

Spoiler: Click to See Video

Shane O;Donnell 5 hours ago
"RTX on, FPS off"

OneWordTroll 3 hours ago
"$$$ out"

mark lewis 1 hour ago
"see the reflections of the $600 dollars i have I have left in my pocket after buying the 1080ti ; ) over the 2080ti"

Doomguy 5 hours ago (edited)
"Just amazing, I'm blown away. Definitely buying a RTX card now. It can't be overstated how important these reflections are in a multiplayer shooter."

MarcasswellbMD 4 hours ago
"NICE I Feel the Sarcasm!! LOL.. It's a sin what they are charging for Nothing!!!"

AdmiralDankBar 3 hours ago
"So instead of having reflections we got even more reflections, thats great aint it? Fcking hell they waste so much die space for this garbage tech instead they could have made an 8k graphics card."

Tech Pappee 2 hours ago
"Please tell me that was sarcasm"

Dominic Francis 1 hour ago
" @Tech Pappee It was most definitely sarcasm. I could taste it."

Battlefield V: Official GeForce RTX Behind The Scenes Video
NVIDIA GeForce
Published on Nov 14, 2018
Check out our behind-the-scenes video showcasing how EA, DICE, and NVIDIA are working together to create the ultimate Battlefield V experience on PC.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/battlefield-v-rtx-ray-tracing-out-now/

Spoiler: Click to See Video

Ray 10 hours ago
"It's concerning that the same old promotional video keeps getting used. Like they haven't been able to get any other examples than the 2 minute (slowed down to like 3 minutes) preview that they showed us 3 months ago?"

Aurocastro 9 hours ago
"I was thinking the same."

 

It looks like the 1080ti is the runaway winner for GPU sales.

RTX vs. GTX Popularity: What Our Viewers Bought
Gamers Nexus
Published on Nov 14, 2018
We look at the viewer favorite GPU for the RTX launch: The GTX 1080 Ti vs. RTX 2080 & 2080 Ti sales performance shows where the real interest lies. Article: https://www.gamersnexus.net/industry/...
The GTX 1080 Ti really shined versus the RTX cards at launch, but our question is whether or not this is 'normal.' If previous generations are always more successful than new generations, that would seem less impressive for the 1080 Ti (or less sad for RTX), but if this is abnormal behavior, it tells us something about the industry's wants for new GPUs.


RX 590 review, RTX on in Battlefield 5, 2080 Ti failures, Q&A | The Full Nerd Ep. 74
PCWorld
Streamed live 5 hours ago
Click for Start of RTX coverage @ 00:28:25
Join The Full Nerd gang as they talk about the latest PC hardware topics. Today's show covers all things graphics! From the Radeon RX 590 launch, to ray tracing enabled in Battlefield 5, to RTX 2080 Ti failures - we'll talk about all that and more. As always we will be answering your live questions so speak up in the chat.

 

I mean is it really any surprise the older gen, far far far cheaper 1080 Ti sold better when they went uber cheap. Unfortunately those days are gone, and the 1080 Ti is done, stock is empty, prices are high with scalpers with last remaining stock and you're left with the used ebay market.

Most people can't afford a $1300 GPU, but the $600 1080 Ti sold like hot cakes no doubt. $1300 for the average consumer is a lot of cash to a lot of people. Others have large discretionary incomes and will buy the best.

That said, man o man the 2080 Ti stands in a league of it's own. AMD's closest offering isn't even close it's pathetic. At one time AMD actually was competing with Nvidia, now they're just a pathetic shell of the high end GPU company they once were.

https://imgur.com/a/kTKjOTA

 

Spoiler: 2080 and 2070 performance...

Battlefield V Ray Tracing Tested, So Is Nvidia RTX Worth It?
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Nov 14, 2018


Check out the written version of this benchmark feature:

Battlefield V DXR Real-Time Ray Tracing Performance Tested
Finally a Look at the DXR / RTX Performance (Drop)
By Tim Schiesser on November 15, 2018
https://www.techspot.com/review/1749-battlefield-ray-tracing-benchmarks/

Battlefield V DXR FAQ
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/1080010/geforce-rtx-20-series/battlefield-v-dxr-faq/

Nvidia's Public Response to RTX GPU failures:
RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition: Contact Us
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ries/rtx-2080-ti-founders-edition-contact-us/

Tim@NVIDIA #1 Posted 11/14/2018 12:36 AM
"Limited test escapes from early boards caused the issues some customers have experienced with RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition.

We stand ready to help any customers who are experiencing problems.

Please visit www.nvidia.com/support to chat live with the NVIDIA tech support team (or to send us an email) and we’ll take care of it."

Nvidia's response is pretty weak, and forgets about the 2080 / 2070 FE failures... not to mention the surprisingly present non-FE failures posting all over the internet.

Nvidia Responds to RTX 2080 Ti FE Failures
Submitted 13 hours ago by Maimakterion
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9x8m98/nvidia_responds_to_rtx_2080_ti_fe_failures/

TaintedSquirrel 12 points 11 hours ago
"Well that was... brief."

cellardoor240 3 points 5 hours ago
"When you know you ****ed up - you tend to sit quiet until the **** storm blows over. They know everything they say can and will be used against them in the court of public opinion."

meerdroovt 25 points 10 hours ago
“It just works”

Nvidia Confirms RTX 2080 Ti Problem -- The Same Day One Bursts Into Flames
Nov 15, 2018, 11:27am
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasone...-problem-the-same-day-one-bursts-into-flames/

EVGA 2080 Ti XC burst into flame !! (photo's)
Discussion in 'nVidia Flavor' started by shansoft, Yesterday at 5:13 AM.
https://hardforum.com/threads/evga-2080-ti-xc-burst-into-flame.1971627/

 

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NVIDIA Confirms Issues Affecting Early Production Run of GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Graphics Cards
Techpowerup.com | November 15th 2018

NVIDIA, via a blog post on its forums, has confirmed widespread reports of failures affecting their flagship RTX 2080 Ti graphics card. The issues, which resulted in "crashes, black screens, blue screen of death issues, artifacts and cards that fail to work entirely," started cropping up throughout tech forums, before reaching a critical mass that warranted coverage - just in case this was exactly what it seemed, ie, a production issue.

It seems this was just so, and that the problem was luckily limited to some early manufacturing issues or QA controls. As NVIDIA themselves put it, "Limited test escapes from early boards caused the issues some customers have experienced with RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition." The company then says that they stand ready to help customers who are experiencing problems - but nothing else was to be expected, really.


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Nvidia acknowledges issues with GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE Guru3d.com | 11/15/2018

A week or two ago we reported that there are some end-users out there that have their GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FE break down. An investigative hunt on the web with many theories was the end result. NVIDIA now has made a small statement.

The company claims that the problems at hand are due to 'limited test escapes' which is indicating bad or defective parts on the PCB. Nvidia writes that the problems with the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition are based on early product batches, denoting 'early boards'. That also indicates that the problem (whatever the cause is) was solved with the current batches.

They've found malfunctioning parts that had not been discovered by the QA teams it seems. That could be resistors or capacitors, but many believe its the GDDR6 memory reaching too high temperatures. Some troublesome end-users even have reported that downclocking the GDD6 memory made the problems go away. NVIDIA is not going into specifics and details as to why and how users run into problems.

Here's what NVIDIA wrote in their forums:

Limited test escapes from early boards caused the issues some customers have experienced with RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition. We stand ready to help any customers who are experiencing problems.

Please visit www.nvidia.com/support to chat live with the NVIDIA tech support team (or to send us an email) and we’ll take care of it.

 

Leave it to Hardware Unboxed to show the worst of DXR performance. While they're not wrong that map and scene in particular run like crap, Dice/EA are aware of it and have already issued a statement they're working to improve/fix it. Also medium and high presets don't currently work.

• DXR
  
  
  • Direct X Raytracing - The BFV 11-14-2018 Update which introduces first release of DXR ray tracing shipped with a couple of known bugs. We recommend in this first release of DXR ray tracing that “DXR Raytraced Reflections Quality” be set to “Low” for the best experience. We will continue to work with NVIDIA to further enhance your ray tracing experience.
    
    
  • “Medium” DXR quality preset setting not applied correctly
    
    • May cause performance and quality in the “Medium” preset to vary depending on which preset you selected last
      
      
    • Status: Fix coming in an upcoming update.
      
  • DXR Performance degraded in maps which feature a lot of foliage
    
    • This particularly effects War Stories “Liberte” and “Tirailleur”
      
    • Status: Currently investigating
      
  • DXR is not automatically enabled for users who can use the tech
    
    
    • This is known. We've provided a brief guide on enabling which includes downloading latest BFV update, Windows update, and GPU drivers.
      
      
    • Status: Workaround provided here.
      

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9vclld/battlefield_vs_known_issues_list/

On that same war story in all other areas I am getting 1440p medium preset except ultra textures and AF I am getting 70-110fps with DXR ON and selected to medium.

 

If you had watched the Hardware Unboxed video closely you would have seen the text on the screen and audio telling of multiple bugs with RT, two of which are:

" The Medium setting currently toggles between High and Low", depending on the last higher or lower setting" which means that high FPS was likely due to really running RT at "Low".

" Currently there is no difference between Ultra / High / Medium, and only Low shows a difference".

It's not just Hardware Unboxed that have shown the 33%-75% FPS hit from running RT. The internet is full of people showing the same results.

And the consensus opinion of *everyone*? RTX is worthless.

Why do you even care about this?, all of your RTX GPU's failed, and you don't even have one right now, right? You didn't go out and waste your hard-earned money on a 3rd RTX GPU did you!!??

I'd imagine you being pretty pissed off right now at Nvidia's shenanigans instead of trying to defend Nvidia's constant deceptions and outright incompetence showing through in this RTX release.

I'd count yourself lucky at getting out before it really hits the fan...and if you were silly enough to buy a 3rd RTX GPU, return it for a full refund before it " bursts into flames".

Spoiler: Photos from "EVGA 2080 Ti XC burst into flame !!"

EVGA 2080 Ti XC burst into flame !!
https://hardforum.com/threads/evga-2080-ti-xc-burst-into-flame.1971627/

Spoiler: Photo of Nvidia's RTX GPU release progress over the last 2 months...

 

I'm glad that NVidia have released ray tracing capable GPUs, it's moving the industry forwards. The cards are too expensive though, and there are teething problems as seen in this BF V game. It's possible that developers will get better at coding for ray tracing & therefore produce more efficient and better performing versions of ray tracing - even on the current RTX hardware (RTX 2070, RTX 2080, RTX 2080ti). Probably not the best GPU generation to buy though, the next one will be better.

 

No doubt RTX in it's current state it is a huge performance hit, not debating that at all, but it certainly is playable if you set it to low as recommended by DICE. Remember this is the first release, first driver, etc. While they won't make it run perfect I can see them at least making further improvements and optimizations.

Obviously I have an RTX 2080 Ti, how else would I have tested it? Do you really think I was just out the money? Nvidia themselves said early cards had an issue, they've fixed it (hopefully this card is) and most issues should be resolved. It also seems to have been a pretty limited batch as there are a lot of cards without issue. I guess it was my turn to get lucky. That said obviously EVGA did an advanced RMA for me and shipped me a new card within a few days. I got it the other day and installed it last night. I own the card, do you?

If the card fails, it will be replaced again and again by EVGA for my 5 year warranty. .

 

EVGA 2080 Ti XC burst into flame !!
Discussion in ' nVidia Flavor' started by shansoft, Yesterday at 5:13 AM.
https://hardforum.com/threads/evga-2080-ti-xc-burst-into-flame.1971627/

"I was just doing some web browsing, wasn't even doing anything else at the time. Everything in its stock form, never even opened it before.

Suddenly, the PC just turned off itself. I was wondering what went wrong by looking into the side panel, then suddenly graphic card starts to shoot flame at the edge of PCB.

Scared the **** out of me since my kid was right around it when it shoots flame. Haven't tried to turn the PC back on to check if the rest is fine, since I don't have extra GPU with me."

What if he hadn't been there when the GPU went into RTX FLAME ON mode? What if that happens to your EVGA GPU?

Will EVGA replace your house too?

Spoiler: RTX FLAME ON

https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2018/11/camp-fire-ravages-paradise-california/575461/

 

@Papusan @Ultra Male @Mr. Fox @hmscott @yrekabakery @ole!!! Are you ready for the BBQ PARTY?

MAGIC SMOKE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-acknowledges-issues-with-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-fe.html
https://forums.evga.com/m/tm.aspx?m=2882377&p=2
https://hardforum.com/threads/evga-2080-ti-xc-burst-into-flame.1971627/

Asus 2080 ti



eVGA 2080 ti




Have fun boys!

 

Classical nVIDIA Swiss Cheese!

 

Nope my home insurance will cover the home in that case. Yet another reason I keep 3 fire extinguishers in my house. If you want to keep your system cranking along while you're not home that is your problem. In recent years I've chosen for that very reason to shut it down when I leave.

Also it's not like a GPU has never caught on fire lol. I had SLI 6800 GS GPUs go up in flames back in the day. A flaming GPU inside my case.

Also this.. http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2214037/answers-gpu-caught-fire.html

https://www.techsupportforum.com/fo...regarding-my-gpu-that-caught-fire-858137.html

A quick google search shows plenty of GPUs catching fire.

 

DXR ON and LOW like recommended in current state, 1440p, medium settings with ultra filtering and textures.70-100fps. Looks to average around 80. Absolutely unplayable.

 

Wow, RTX GPU's are literally bursting into flames, and redirecting attention away from the RTX's dismal Ray-Tracing performance.

Spoiler: Nvidia's Elite "Test Escapes" team fine tuning RTX during development:

 

Lol. Wow. Come on man have we all forgot about the 10 series EVGA cards bursting u to flames. This isn’t some widespread issue like that. A single card big deal. Don’t get pissy when I point out GPUs can and do light on fire.

 

The worst part is going back to non ray tracing to test the difference. The graphical fidelity, lighting, shadows all look incredible. It's like once you've seen it, it really sucks to not be using it.

 

Watching the side by side view of RTX Ultra / Low / Off, I have to say I prefer the RTX Off integrated SSR processing vs RTX's sparse sprinking of effects. SSR was more engaging.

I'll see if I can find a nice image to demonstrate...see the Hardware Unboxed review at starting @ 04:30, here's a shot at 05:07:

Of course there are artifacts and falseness in both methods, but for the "cost" I prefer the "flame-free" non-RTX method.

RX 590 review, RTX on in Battlefield 5, 2080 Ti failures, Q&A | The Full Nerd Ep. 74
PCWorld
Streamed live 5 hours ago
Click for Start of RTX coverage @ 00:28:25
Join The Full Nerd gang as they talk about the latest PC hardware topics. Today's show covers all things graphics! From the Radeon RX 590 launch, to ray tracing enabled in Battlefield 5, to RTX 2080 Ti failures - we'll talk about all that and more. As always we will be answering your live questions so speak up in the chat.


Hardware Unboxed: "Battlefield V Ray Tracing Tested, So Is Nvidia RTX Worth It?"
Submitted 11 hours ago by xRush64x
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9x8tm4/hardware_unboxed_battlefield_v_ray_tracing_tested/

EveryCriticism 307 points 16 hours ago
"Hmm. I know Raytracing is SUPER intensive stuff, but sacrificing around 50-100 FPS on a 2080ti at 1080p..... I dunno man, that is just absurd."

Crintor 46 points 13 hours ago
"So I play BFV @ 1440p, without RTX I get 130-180 FPS. With RTX it's 50-80FPS, which to be fair is an amazing improvment from the 60fps at 1080p they had at reveal. But I don't know if I'm just so used to gaming at high FPS now or what but I literally could not play with RTX on, I had to turn it off after two rounds. It almost felt like it was way under 60 fps, or that there was a lot of input lag. It was uncomfortable to play. I could see Ray tracing being much better in RPGs or slower paced games, especially anything you would play with a controller."

EveryCriticism 28 points 13 hours ago
"A lot of people said that the RTX acted jittery - which Dice said had "known issues that we are trying to fix". A lot of stuttering apparently, but agreed, it doesn't really work out too well in the FPS genre of a BF game."

 

Unfortunately you don't own an RTX 2080 Ti, and have never experienced DXR in BFV in person. Playing the game single player and having realistic shadows, reflections etc add immersion that no amount of faking can create. I showed the game runs just fine with the current recommended low setting from DICE, and it still looks phenomenal. They have stated they are continuing to work with Nvidia to improve the ray tracing experience.

https://forums.battlefield.com/en-us/discussion/161023/battlefield-vs-known-issues-list

I'll also take my GPU that can deliver 144fps in 1440p Ultra for mutiplayer non-RTX gaming. Something no other GPU comes close to.

 

Nvidia has a Pascal problem, and its stock is plunging after earnings
Quarterly gaming sales lower than expected as Turing launches, Nvidia says it has too many Pascal-based cards in inventory
Published: Nov 15, 2018 6:23 p.m. ET
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/n...s-stock-is-plunging-after-earnings-2018-11-15

"“Gaming revenue was short of our expectations, and our fourth-quarter outlook is impacted by excess channel inventory of midrange Pascal products,” Nvidia Chief Financial Officer Colette Kress said in a statement. “We believe this is a near-term issue that will be corrected in one to two quarters, and remain confident in our competitive position and market opportunities.”
...
That wreaked havoc with Nvidia’s forecast for the fourth quarter as it seeks to work down that inventory. The company called for revenue of $2.65 billion to $2.75 billion, while analysts on average had expected revenue of $3.4 billion. While clearing out old inventory was not a complete surprise, the magnitude of it was."

Nvidia Tumbles on Soft Guidance: 5 Key Takeaways
The GPU maker missed quarterly estimates and issued a light January quarter sales outlook. It puts much of the blame on an inventory overhang caused by a collapse in demand from cryptocurrency miners.
Eric Jhonsa, Nov 15, 2018 9:01 PM EST
https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/nvidia-tumbles-on-soft-guidance-5-key-takeaways-14784022

Nvidia misses revenue expectations
CNBC Television
Published on Nov 15, 2018
CNBC's Josh Lipton reports on Nvidia dropping after reporting a revenue miss.



Come on everyone stop buying those silly over-hyped over-priced RTX-useless GPU's and start buying old inventory Pascal cards, y'all gotta help 'ole Nvidia dig themselves out of that inventory hole they've dug for themselves.

 

Sitting on a pile of of those old mid range cards they produced for the mining bubble. I see price slashes in the future and likely won't be releasing any 2060 anytime soon. Or maybe they'll pull a rebrand and put them in "next-gen" laptops. 2050 Ti Max-Q laptop anyone? Hell they could make a 1060 GX2 lol.

 

You reduced quality settings to Medium to reduce the load on the GPU to increase the FPS, after reducing RTX effects from Ultra / High / Medium all the way down to Low.

That's nothing to brag about, or quote FPS to try to show "All is Well!!"...this is what you sound like to me:



To say this with a $1300+ RTX 2080ti, the top model Nvidia RTX engine, it's pathetic to see you try to justify the failure of it all.

And, BFV is only using RTX for reflections, not shadows - you are seeing things if you think shadows are RTX'ified in BFV. Wait for Tomb Raider.

At Low Effects settings, looking at the comparison's between Ultra and the sparseness of RTX Effects happening in Low, you'd have to be "seeing things" that aren't there to believe "All is Well".

 

Ray Tracing is now enabled in Battlefield V, making it the first public RTX game (guru3d.com)
submitted 2 days ago by NoctysHS
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/9wzl8v/ray_tracing_is_now_enabled_in_battlefield_v/

AllDizzle 104 points 1 day ago
"Pretty sure this feature exists so those few guys with the $30,000 computers liquid cooled by mountain dew can rub their nips over something that's not Crysis."

Ac3Zer0 19 points 1 day ago
"That is the most beautiful sentence i’ve ever seen on reddit"

rootbeer_racinette 1 day ago
"The man's a poet."

 

Here you go, 1440p, Ultra Settings, low DXR AS RECOMMENDED BY DICE in current patch/development. Still above 60fps, usually around 70fps, and I'm losing 4fps just because I'm recording with shadowplay.

At 1080p FPS would be even higher. This is also the hardest story in BFV to render, and Dice themselves have said they are investigating the issue. All other stories run better. Which is why Hardware Unboxed used that one scene in the game because its' the only one that runs like complete ass, yet they used it for their DXR "review" and represented it as overall performance which was completely misleading and false.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BattlefieldV/comments/9vclld/battlefield_vs_known_issues_list/

"DXR Performance degraded in maps which feature a lot of foliage

This particularly effects War Stories “Liberte” and “Tirailleur”

Status: Currently investigating"


You keep quoting non RTX owners comments from reddit, I'll keep uploading actual video proof.

 

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RTX 2080 Ti Failure Analysis: Artifacting, Thermals, Black Screens, & Defects
Gamers Nexus
Published on Nov 16, 2018
Researching the failure of a dozen or so RTX 2080 Tis, we narrowed the list down to the worst-artifacting Founders Edition cards.
Article: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/...cting-failure-analysis-crashing-black-screens

Primary issues discussed in this piece include the following:
- BSODs and crashes to desktop with RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition cards
- Artifacting with 2080 Ti Founders Edition cards
- Firmware updates
- Linux artifacting on RTX 2080 Tis
- "Overheating" 2080 Tis (or the lack thereof), particularly the memory
- 2080 Ti black screens and crashes / freezes
- Memory and core downclocking

 

I don’t know....i have played around with RTX some with BF5, and I’m not overly impressed, and had no issues reverting back to high frame rate 4K play.

 

The best part is I had 2, TWO 2080 Tis go night night on me. NVIDIA has acknowledged the early batch defects and hopefully this has been corrected. I have no idea where my 3rd is from but I’m hoping it makes it. If not I have an EVGA card with a 5 year warranty and I’ll swap it out until the kinks are worked out. Unfortunately when there is zero competition at the high end you have no choices. We have AMD to thank for this. I can’t wait for Intel to enter the market in 2020 and hopefully shake things up a bit.

 

I think AMD is happy with the low to mid level ground that they now occupy. I really don’t look for them to try and compete. Intel on the other hand...they are going to have a lot to prove especially after getting their butts handed to them on the cpu side by AMD.

 

https://twitter.com/IntelGraphics/status/1062855813797044224

Intel will support adaptive sync and support is coming to iGPUs before dGPU even shows up according to Intel. No need to lock it down behind a closed door . I hope they can bring it, I don't think their first attempt will be the one to own, but who knows maybe they'll surprise us all. They do have some competent GPU talent, they got Raja after all earlier this year.