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NVIDIA and Kingpin SLI Video
NVIDIA
Published on Jan 26, 2011
Vince "Kingpin" Lucido talks about his experience with overclocking, the benefits of using SLI Technology and what it takes to grasp a world record!

 

https://imgur.com/a/AVO7dct The scenery is brighter because the reflections are creating a new source of light. This is fairly easy to pinpoint.

 

Yep, I can see it now, it's not something I noticed when watching it though, I just thought "Oh reflections.....oh no reflections" when they flipped it on/off.

 

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/justice-dlss-quality-comparison.png

Bring on the "fake 4K" all day long.

https://wccftech.com/justice-first-game-use-nvidia-rtx-dlss/

 

Justice – Enhanced with NVIDIA RTX Ray Tracing and DLSS
Submitted 1 day ago by Nilick
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9z08tx/justice_enhanced_with_nvidia_rtx_ray_tracing_and/

OftenTangential 27 points 1 day ago
"That one market scene had like 20 fps lol"

warutel 5 points 1 day ago
"To be honest, all these demos are quite contrived. Hopefully studios don't start adding reflections everywhere just for the sake of it."

temp0557 5 points 1 day ago
"They should have showcased the game with DLSS enabled. Those choppy scenes aren't making a good impression."

dustofdeath 1 point 1 day ago
"Looks better with off. With RTX on everything is lacquer coated and shining."

idwtlotplanetanymore 1 point 1 day ago
"Its like RTX has come to mean 'put unrealistically reflective surfaces everywhere'.
Half of those reflections looked better with RTX off and faking it.
Particularly the wagon reflection, and the armor reflection. Both of them are unrealistically reflective. Both of these looked far better with the faked method.
The bridge in the water one looked the best.
I mean its an easy fix, they just need to make surfaces rougher. But then it wouldn't look all shiny, and the public loves shiny..."

Nvidia enhances the Justice MMO with RTX and DLSS
https://www.hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/124511-nvidia-enhances-justice-mmo-rtx-dlss/

Posted by MajorZod - Wed 21 Nov 2018 11:42
"Looks great, just don't fancy remortgaging the house or selling vital organs for a GPU."

Posted by Pleiades - Wed 21 Nov 2018 16:23
"Very pretty but the real world is a lot less glossy. Maybe ‘grubby-fying’ tech is needed to properly render truer environments… ;-)"

Posted by Rubarb - Thu 22 Nov 2018 00:46
"Too expensive and from what i hear could die too.
Is it just me getting bored of over hyped and expensive reviews?"

Are there any DLSS games out now/ when will there be support?
Submitted 9 hours ago by Bombaman164
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/9zgrab/are_there_any_dlss_games_out_now_when_will_there/

QuackChampion 1 point 9 hours ago
"No. There are some DLSS benchmarks though. SoTR will probably be the first game to support DLSS. Maybe we will see support in December."

 

RTX 2080 Ti FE Escapes Testing by Dying After 8 Hours
We have spent over $4000 on NVIDIA RTX cards, on both 2080 Founders Edition and 2080 Ti Founders Edition video cards for testing here at HardOCP. As it stands now, two of our three 2080 Ti FE cards have died on us. Another one just bit the dust, and with very little fanfare this time.
Kyle Bennett, Wednesday, November 21, 2018
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2018/11/21/rtx_2080_ti_fe_escapes_testing_by_dying_after_8_hours/

"RTX 2080 Ti FE Escapes Testing by Dying after 8 Hours
As you might know, one of the two RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition video cards that we purchased directly from NVIDIA failed on us while using it for gaming last week. While we did not get Battlefield V for free, we did get Space Invaders for free, albeit we would have rather done without that freebie.

Spoiler: Long Story...

NVIDIA owned up to 2080 Ti FE card problems as well. Moving forward, NVIDIA support did an excellent job of getting a replacement 2080 Ti FE out to replace our failed card in an expeditious and efficient manner, even if FedEx dropped the ball on the shipment.

We got our replacement 2080 Ti FE on Monday of this week, and got it onto the test bench late Monday night to begin some stability testing. While grabbing some rest, we left the new card running the Heaven benchmark in a loop. Early Tuesday morning, about 8 hours later, we woke to find the 2080 Ti FE chugging along happily.

This is of course a great result and were happy with it, which meant we could get to some Samsung VRAM temperature testing later on. Tuesday was a bit busy with family coming into town for the holidays, and having to write an in-depth technical office chair review, so we did not get to the VRAM temperature testing we wanted.

However, the kids did want to play some VR games on Tuesday night, so I set up the test system with the 2080 Ti FE for them as it was still ready to go on the test bench. For whatever reason, the kids never got around to the VR gaming, and I went in to find the system sitting on the Windows desktop like I left it, and turned it off for the night and retired.

This morning, Wednesday, we hit the ground running and wanted to see if our new 2080 Ti FE with Samsung VRAM had any temperature differences from the previous Micron VRAM card. We turned the test system on, and were not greeted with a POST screen. Well, that is strange.

This is a new ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula motherboard has not been through our full testing gamut, so we were not sure of the exact issue. We started by moving the 2080 Ti FE around to the other available PCIe slot, and still no POST. We switched in my Micron VRAM 2080 Ti FE, and the system POSTed just fine using that card in both PCIe slots. We then tried our luck with a GTX 1080 Ti, and had no issues with it either.

Putting our replacement 2080 Ti FE back we were met with the same no-POST, no-signal issue, and we did try multiple times with reseating the card in different PCIe slots. The card's fans do spin up and the logo lights up as it should. The card also generates a good bit of heat on the backplate around the GPU.

We reached out, once again, to NVIDIA's support chat and explained our issue. Once again, NVIDIA chat support was very helpful and has initiated another RMA for us. You can see the quick transcript below.

https://www.hardocp.com/image/MTU0MjgyNjk0OXM5MzY0ZWwxeThfMV8zX2wucG5n

We have now owned three NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti Founders Edition video cards. Two of those three have failed on us. While we do "abuse" a good bit of hardware around here, we do not feel that we abused these 2080 Ti FE cards in any way. This replacement card was never overclocked, or used in 3D except in our initial Heaven stability test as explained above. It seems that NVIDIA has not weeded all the way through its " test escapes" just yet.

We will let you know how it goes with 2080 Ti FE #4.

It seems that not signing NVIDIA's 5 year blanket NDA has certainly given us a true enthusiast NVIDIA experience, just like our readers should expect."

 

Advancing Patient Care with Deep Learning

 

I guess some just have really bad luck. My 2080 TI XC ultra is still going strong with plus 145 to the core and 950 to the memory, and it is equipped with micron memory. It doesn’t see daily use with my current work load, but it hasn’t exhibited any issues thus far.

 

There are plenty without issues, some of us were just unlucky unfortunately. With EVGA now I had little worry of speedy replacements should I need it ever again and I'm covered for 5 years.

 

BATTLEFIELD V and RTX ON... Performance TESTED
JayzTwoCents
Published on Nov 23, 2018
We have waited MONTHS for the features advertised for the 20 series NVIDIA cards... but were they even worth the wait?


InstantRice 1 hour ago
"Well That's... That's Embarrassing"

Coin Exchange 44 minutes ago
"Imagine if he used 4k...LOL.."

ProtoMario 1 hour ago
"You lost 70 - 90 FPS for reflections that look better. Stunningly worthless to me personally, I probably will not be able to use this myself for the next 5 years because I won't spend 1 grand for a card. I bought a 980 recently, really nice, paid $140 for it."

 

O look more cry babies that can't afford an RTX card.

Love that subtle call out from JayzTwoCents about the ohter channels all using the same exact scene that is known to be **** right now as their "performance review" of RTX lol. "I'm getting 86fps while there's a fire burning right of me showing off reflections". Calling out those crying about 30fps and being super negative and wanting views over the negativity. LOL. NICE!

 

I think your comment sums you nicely.

You'll find after you've grown up that responsible adults don't waste money on expensive crap that's useless, and don't feel bad about saying so to help others from getting fleeced by marketing and sales BS.

Many people with more money than sense are easily suckered into giving up their cash for magic beans, and haven't enough sense to realize when they've been had.

That sinking feeling of "oops I ****ed up" - instead of waking them up - causes them to continue to double down compounding their losses because they can't face the fact that they got suckered out of their money.

You've got a lot of growing up to do. Maybe when your income drops - or your financial responsibilities increase - you run out of "stupid" money - and you are unable to bail your ass out of dumb decisions with more cash, you'll learn.

Not saying such dumb-ass things to other adults is one of the things you'll learn, which is why we know "where you are at" right now:

"O look more cry babies that can't afford an RTX card."

 

And then Jay realizes he isn't actually in Ultra mode like he thought he was - he's in RTX Low mode - and when he switches to Ultra mode, he has the same 30-40 FPS the others are reporting.

Your mind is playing tricks on you to support your failures to pay attention.

Jay actually did this several times, but only went through the exercise of switching back to Ultra once, the rest of the time he clipped the "low mode oops" which was pushing FPS higher.

If you cut down the quality, run RTX features on Low, and ignore the comments of the developer that was quoted as saying they removed RTX effects from multi-player to improve gaming, you are simply fooling yourself.

 

Thanks!

 

There sure seems to be a whole heck of a lot of unlucky people buying RTX GPU's

Maybe it's not the people that are unlucky, maybe it's Nvidia's incompetence?

 

You've definitely got an anti NVidia agenda, and I can see it effects you emotionally, it's not that important. This RTX launch is not the best launch, but it's pushing the industry forward, and people can choose to buy them or not, I agree they should be cheaper, but don't insult people for buying the cards.

 

The RTX debacle by Nvidia is only their latest obvious money grabbing scheme.

My experience with their long history of deception and needless self serving behavior informs my comments, but my comments aren't at all emotional reactions. It's all based on facts in the clear light of day.

How can you turn it around on me as insulting people for buying the cards, when I was reacting to @Talon's insult's directed at people *not* buying the cards?:

"O look more cry babies that can't afford an RTX card."

That's where you should direct your attention, and ask @Talon to "grow up".

People that don't waste their hard earned money on useless overpriced crap that doesn't deliver on it's key RTX features aren't "cry babies", they are intelligent reasoning mature individuals not influenced by marketing and sales bull-**** designed to take money from the unwary.

There really isn't a good reason to buy Nvidia "RTX" GPU's, there are plenty of Nvidia and AMD alternatives that perform close enough to game with, for many hundred's less $ new and used.

Buying Nvidia's RTX GPU's at their ridiculously high prices, falling for the not ready for prime time RTX features, and trying to help Nvidia justify all of it is exactly how to encourage Nvidia to continue ripping people off.

Apple is learning there is a limit where even their fans won't put up with their crap, and will stop buying it. Apple is being forced to curtail production, drop prices, and bring back previous hardware for less money.

And that's what I am suggesting overall. That we do stop buying Nvidia's (and Apple's) overpriced crap, and allow them the grace to reconsider the error of their ways, and stop ripping us off. Or lose their customer base.

Can AMD clean up the mess that Intel & NVIDIA have created in the PC industry?
By Rafie Edruce - October 24, 2018
https://klgadgetguy.com/2018/10/24/...intel-nvidia-have-created-in-the-pc-industry/

"...By and large, we’re a forgiving lot. But it feels like a corner is turning with the recent release of CLR, RTX and the resurgence from Team AMD. In the age of instant outrage, viral news and ‘share share share’, the backlash has been swift and momentous. Could it be that we finally have the power to keep our tech companies on a more even & honest keel?"
...
Clearly the ‘honest value’ proposition takes on even more importance moving forward. It is what’s helping AMD gain back massive amounts of CPU market share, after all. Hopefully this is a harsh lesson that Intel and NVIDIA will learn when the next product launch comes around."

 

Tl;dr there's more to not buying into the Early Adopter phase than "not being able to afford it"

My father worked as a capacity planner and performance analyst for over 40 years mainly on multimillion dollar mainframes and his default philosophy was to buy the n-1 generation.

Let others pay the release day tax, deal with supply issues, find and troubleshoot the bugs with support staff who usually have only marginally more experience with the product than users... any of that sound familiar?

Nvidia should be paying RTX buyers for being their beta testers... not the other way round.

 

I think he's just defending his purchase against the constant onslaught of negativity towards it in this thread, and his comment wasn't directed at anyone in this thread either.

 

And the houses burning down because the (some random component) caught fire when you were out shopping!

I must say, Scott and I have had our differences but I don't think I've ever agreed more with him than I just did with this post.
100% complete truth.

People spend $1200 on a firestarter edition card then their ego has to justify their purchase decision. Exact same thing that has people having exceedingly loud mufflers in modded cars (is that the right term? I dont drive and I don't have a car), just to show off that they modded it. It's no difference from making your body look like Sylvester Stallone in First Blood Part II, or Arnold in Terminator 2 after working out for a year, then going to Starbucks without a shirt, to brag about how you can lift a car with your pinky.

What's funny is, Ray Tracing isn't even anything new. That's the low blow.

Now I know 3dfx invented anti-aliasing, and Voodoo5's tanked FPS with it on, but it didn't cost you $1200 dollars either. And it was something that had never been done before. And it was Supersampling AA (OGSS?).

 

The "onslaught of negativity" against RTX GPU stinkage is not only summed up in this thread, it's all over the internet, in print, in videos, and is pretty much universal derision except for those that got suckered in by Nvidia's BS and wasted their hard-earned money on overpriced "RTX smoke and mirrors" crap, and now some suckers feel they need to defend the indefensible.

@Talon's comment was directed at the people posting in the Youtube thread, and in particular the comments I quoted:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/nvidia-thread.806608/page-102#post-10824057

InstantRice 1 hour ago
"Well That's... That's Embarrassing"

Coin Exchange 44 minutes ago
"Imagine if he used 4k...LOL.."

ProtoMario 1 hour ago
"You lost 70 - 90 FPS for reflections that look better. Stunningly worthless to me personally, I probably will not be able to use this myself for the next 5 years because I won't spend 1 grand for a card. I bought a 980 recently, really nice, paid $140 for it."

"O look more cry babies that can't afford an RTX card." - @Talon

Why would @Talon care what they think? He spent his money on his magic beans, and doesn't need to defend himself or his purchase to anyone.

Spoiler: Wake up

If he likes useless crap and enjoy's using useless crap, and can't see the uselessness of the crap of it from his vantage point, that is only a temporary situation.

@Talon is being attacked by his own doubts - he's beginning to see the crap - and he is lashing out against his own anger and confusion. My responses have been aimed at helping him realize this. His pride is stepping in the way of his waking up.

I am not attacking him, I'm only trying to help him to wake up - like I do with any situation when deceptions are being used to rule those oppressed by the lies designed to take their money, their power, and enslave their souls throughout eternity.

The rule of repetition. Once deceived by lies in one situation those same lies or at least their form can be used to deceive in other situations. Just like plot points, the same lies and their form are reused in most all situations of oppression vs illumination.

Waking up to the lies of one deception will help weaken the lies and deceptions in other situations. Eventually the casual observer will notice the similarities between deceptions, and put 1 + 1 together to arrive at 2. Then you wake up...

...to the true ineffectiveness of lies and deceptions that seek to control you, and you will see them all clearly and easily, if only for a brief instant, as the truth illuminates countering the oppression.

Through the weakness introduced through long established bad habits you can easily fall back into the comfortable blindness of easy deceptions. Instead of reacting with anger, wake up.

The cloak of deceptions is a like a wet paper sack. It is incredibly weak and ineffectual once you realize it is there. As weak as a wet paper sack you can easily brush away, finding it is not impenetrable - you are not defenseless.

Wake up to truth and emerge from your prison of lies. RTX for now is an elaborate half-baked fabrication, a complex deception with an easy answer - We didn't need it.

Nvidia needed RTX as a deception to justify raising prices 2x to deliver a worse result, instead of charging the same to produce a better result.

Nvidia would rather profit from cheating instead of from providing something of value. Instead of simply increasing performance to deliver real benefits, Nvidia wasted their resources on creating a deception they knew couldn't deliver real benefits to anyone.

Helping people find their way out of the "wet paper sack" is a long and arduous process.

 

even if people thinking the purchase was a poor choice, each person has different sense of value. me spending on a 1080 would be the dumbest thing ever but i would not hold back on a good cpu. while Talon likes to have the latest and greatest and thats probably only the real justification here aside from a ~20% performance boost over 1080. but theres always that trade off, latest and greatest cost a premium.

as for me and many people we choose to be poor fag cause we can and i love doing it, until a shining CPU gets involved and i lose my sh*t.

 

Nvidia stuck with $500M in Inventory...

Update: $1.4B in Inventory with a corrected $700M revenue shortfall.

Cramer: Nvidia got it so wrong no one will trust CEO for a while
CNBC Television
Published on Nov 16, 2018
CNBC's Jim Cramer discusses Nvidia's performance as chip stocks get slammed.


Gripen90 5 days ago
"The RTX series is dying all over the place and people don't trust the chips. It should be called the RMA series. I have RMAed my wifes RTX 2080 2x times and my own RMAed RTX 2080Ti 1x time. We have now got full refund for those cards, and we won't be buying any first gen. RTX series."

C.B Genesis 3 days ago
"Gripen90 I’ve had to RMA my RTX 2080 ti twice first time the card was dead on arrival and then my replacement only lasted a week before it died again........"

Kevin Schmidt 1 day ago
"The next quarter will be even worse. The RTX launch was one of the worst we've ever seen. While ray tracing is a huge advancement technologically speaking, practically speaking no consumer wants to pay 300% the price for 50% the FPS to see more accurate reflective surfaces in a handful of games. On top of that many issues are plaguing the RTX cards and that combined with the GTX hangover will result in a very bad Q4."

Old_Newbie 4 days ago
"NVIDIA had been waaaay bloated for a few years now. There was no way it was more valuable ($100+ at its peak) than the Intels, Facebooks, Apples, or Microsofts of the world. Of course it wasnt Crypto or gaming as a big factor for Nvidia...Those markets dont produce that kind of share value. What blew up Nvidia stock with big investors was their tie to Tesla and AI chips for self driving cars. Once Tesla dropped Nvidia for their own AI solution a few months ago (Aug 2018), big time investors' starry-eyed romance with Nvidia ended. What we are seeing is the normalization of a GPU company's stock price."

 

Really!

 

RTX 2060 Gaming Benchmark
Gamer Meld
Published on Nov 24, 2018
The RTX 2060 finally gets some gaming benchmarks.

 

NVIDIA Blames AMD For Excess GPU Inventory
By Paige TannerNov 23, 2018 | 8:03 AM
https://marketrealist.com/2018/11/nvidia-blames-amd-for-excess-gpu-inventory

NVIDIA’s revenue hit by large crypto inventory

NVIDIA’s ( NVDA) fiscal 2019 fourth-quarter revenue guidance missed analysts’ estimates by $700 million.

This revenue miss was purely from the gaming segment, as an unexpected increase in its midrange GPU (graphics processing unit) inventory forced the company to halt its midrange shipments.

NVIDIA’s inventory rose 30% sequentially and 65% YoY (year-over-year) to $1.4 billion in the third quarter of fiscal 2019.

NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang was surprised by the magnitude of the GPU inventory.

Where did the excess GPU inventory come from?

During NVIDIA’s fiscal 2019 third-quarter earnings call, Huang said, “I think the channel has more than 12 weeks of inventory between us and the other brand,” with “the other brand” being Advanced Micro Devices ( AMD).

In the GamesBeat interview, Huang was asked how cryptocurrency, which accounted for only 10% of its quarterly revenue, expanded to one entire quarter’s worth of inventory.

He stated this was because the channel also included AMD’s inventory.

>>You'd think Jensen would have exhausted his
>>vast store of pure BS with the RTX GPU launch,
>>but then he surprise's us all once more with a
>>gem spun of pure fantasy balonium,
>>weapons grade BS of the highest order:

"He explained that since NVIDIA’s GTX 1060 is the top-selling GPU and AMD’s RX 580 is number 24, the ratio of GTX 1060s to RX 580s in the channel inventory is 90:10. If AMD suddenly injects RX 580 GPUs into the channel and changes the inventory ratio to 50:50, it would create excess inventory, which is difficult to sell. "

It is no wonder that the world of Nvidia is crashing down around them with this kind of math at it's core.

Spoiler: Quote Correction

1060 intead of 1080 corrected in above post text, as quoted in the article: if this interview text is correct:

How crypto mining collapse caused Nvidia to lose $23 billion in market value
DEAN TAKAHASHI @DEANTAK NOVEMBER 17, 2018 9:10 AM
https://venturebeat.com/2018/11/17/...ed-nvidia-to-lose-23-billion-in-market-value/

"...
Huang: Take a moment — let me just — the 1060 is the number one selling GPU in the world, and the 580 is the number 24. The gaming demand is such that the 580 demand is relatively small. If they decide to build a whole bunch of GPUs, 580s, for crypto, and then they shove that into the channel, then the market would be disproportionate, to us. Usually we would see — call it 90 percent us and 10 percent them. Now all of sudden the inventory in the channel could be very different. It could be 50 percent them and 50 percent us. Do you see what I’m saying? But there are so many people writing about inventories, Dean. Why waste your life on it?

GamesBeat: [laughs] I guess?"

 

OMG, only 1 RTX GPU is in the Top 10 Amazon GPU's on sale right now! The next RTX GPU is at #15! The Top 10 are either Series 10 GPU's or AMD GPU's.

Nvidia really crapped out this Holiday season! Nobody will buy overpriced RTX crap! The only Top 10 RTX GPU is the lowest priced RTX 2070! The 1st RTX 2080 shows up at #15!

Holy ****! The first 2080 ti that shows up in that Amazon Best Seller's list is at #73!! Wow, nobody is buying RTX GPU's! Nvidia is really screwed!

Best Sellers in Computer Graphics Cards
https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Computer-Graphics-Cards/zgbs/electronics/284822

Spoiler: 1st RTX 2080 @ #15, 1st RTX 2080 ti @ #73!!

RTX OFF: finished my build with the cheapest 1080ti I could find.
Submitted 10 hours ago by m-turco
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/a1hnwq/rtx_off_finished_my_build_with_the_cheapest/

Finally done! i7 8700K 1080ti
Submitted 19 hours ago by Incredibroke
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/a1e39v/finally_done_i7_8700k_1080ti/

1080 Ti Lightning
Submitted 17 hours ago by blownart
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/a1f9f4/1080_ti_lightning/

Which games actually use DLSS?
Submitted 5 hours ago by MrKyleOwns
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/a1k5cb/which_games_actually_use_dlss/

1080ti BuyItNow (40)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...=1&_udlo=500&_udhi=650&_sop=15&LH_BIN=1&rt=nc

1080ti All Listings (329)
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr...rp=1&_udlo=0&_udhi=650&_sop=15&LH_All=1&rt=nc

 

Battlefield 5 With RTX - A Gamer's Perspective! (!DXR OFF Wins!)
HardwareCanucks
Published on Nov 29, 2018
After playing through over 100 hours in the beta, single and multiplayer Battlefield 5, we've finally come to a conclusion about NVIDIA's RTX DirectX ray tracing. We were also able to see how the Turing architecture uses NVIDIA Adaptive Shading to boost performance in Wolfenstein 2.


Dawid Does Tech Stuff 9 hours ago
"I think they should add ray tracing to CS GO, I think pro gamers would love the dip in FPS for slightly shinier surfaces."

FPSDoge 9 hours ago
"Oh goody! Now I can sacrifice 80% of my frame rate for something so insignificant I won't be able to notice it without looking at stuff during a firefight! Thanks nVidia!"

Steamed Aurora Borealis 6 hours ago (edited)
"I really hope raytracing doesn't catch on. The difference is so minimal for such a gigantic hit in performance. I don't want to be forced to buy top tier cards just to get a barely playable 60fps, especially getting so comfortable with 144. I know the argument has been made that anti-aliasing started the same way, and honestly to heck with anti aliasing just the same. If you're playing at your native resolution on a screen size that accommodates it, the jaggedness is hardly noticeable and on top of that, sometimes AA actually makes the game look worse by turning it into a blurry mess."

 

This'll be an interesting thing to see, to see how good the ray tracing is in this upcoming benchmark: https://www.notebookcheck.net/3DMar...ark-is-set-to-arrive-in-January.372466.0.html

The creators of the benchmark say that it is a "realistic and practical example of what to expect from ray tracing in upcoming games.". It runs better than Battlefield V apparently, so perhaps this benchmark will show what future games could do with the current gen RTX hardware, which so far has been a little bit disappointing when it comes to performance vs visual fidelity increase when ray tracing is enabled.

 

With Titan RTX imminent announcement/launch I am curious how much it will be priced. I might be going Titan RTX if the price isn't $3000 like the Titan V. Any guesses what launch price will be?

https://twitter.com/nvidia/status/1069278080366256128?s=19 -- Titan RTX = T-RTX/T-Rex come on people!

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/64034/nvidias-unannounced-titan-rtx-graphics-card-teased/index.html

It's sad AMD is releasing the same card 2.5 years in a row and isn't pushing the performance envelope at all.

 

Somewhere between $3000 - $10,000, my initial guess is $5,000 based on Nvidia's penchant to overprice this RTX GPU generation even higher than "ludicrous".

From wccftech:
"For specifications, NVIDIA has their Quadro RTX 8000 series cards with more cores and memory compared to their flagship RTX 2080 Ti graphics card. The card rocks the full Turing TU102 GPU with 4608 CUDA cores, 576 Tensor Cores, up to 48 GB of GDDR6 memory and up to 10 Gigarays worth of Raytracing performance.
...
That card costs $10,000 US so a Titan would definitely cost less considering we will see slightly lower VRAM to conserve costs.

But still, considering the prices of consumer graphics RTX cards, a prosumer aimed Titan with Turing GPU would cost around $3000 US, the same price as the Titan V."

$3000 seems logical - given the previous generation to generation tradition of Nvidia / AMD maintaining a price point while increasing performance. I doubt that is going to happen.

Nvidia has broken that model by charging $699 for the 1080ti, and now $1299 for the 2080ti.

Using the same multiplication factor, the RTX Titan would be $1299/$699 x $3000 (Titan V) = $5575, but that may be a bridge too far even for the Greedy Green Monster, so let's make the next guess - $5499 for the RTX Titan...but wait! there is more!!

Spoiler: Nvidia Titan Pricing / Specs History

The Titan series started jumping up the MSRP by leaps and bounds even earlier than the GTX series, starting at $999, then leaping to $1200, then for the next Titan - bounding to $3000!

That first price leap was a "modest" 1.2x, but the last price bound was 2 times that 1.2x leap, for a total price multiplier increase of 2.5x!! That's even higher than the 1080ti to 2080ti price increase!

Does Nvidia have the moxie to push the Titan RTX even higher! Will Nvidia go from "ludicrous" price jumps to full on "nutzo"?!!

Only time will tell just how nutzo Nvidia will price the Titan RTX, but I am certain there will be Nvidiot " nutztier" that will pay the asking price. Or, go broke trying.

 

Nvidia Screwed Everyone Over with the 20-Series
UFD Tech
Published on Dec 2, 2018
Your thoughts on Nvidia releasing the RTX Titan? And how everyone is currently teasing it?


NVIDIA Teases Titan RTX... and its SHADY AF!
Joker Productions
Published on Dec 2, 2018
NVIDIA is using social media influencers like Linus Tech Tips and Jayztwocents as pawns in their marketing campaign for the Titan RTX.

Spoiler: Click to See Video

My thoughts on Nvidia's cash grab using RTX as sucker bait...

RTX Titan Is Coming...
Gamer Meld
Published on Dec 1, 2018
Nvidia has a new GPU...

Spoiler: Click to See Video

Please Stop (- It's Not a Leak, it's a Tease...)
Science Studio
Published on Dec 2, 2018

Spoiler: Click to See Video

The Twitter comments in response are less than enthusiastic...

Something big is coming….

https://twitter.com/nvidia/status/1069278080366256128

Did you hear that….?
https://twitter.com/nvidia/status/1068899978733481984

 

Nvidia RTX GPU's are falling even further down the Amazon Top 100 Selling GPU list after this weekends sales.

The last time I checked on 11-29-18 there was only 1 RTX GPU at position #2 in the top 10, with the next RTX GPU showing up at #15, and the 1st 2080ti showing at #73.

Now that #2 position RTX GPU is at #3, with the #15 position RTX GPU now at #20, and there are Zero 2080ti's showing in the Amazon Top 100 Selling GPU's.

Spoiler

Maybe Nvidia is pushing out the Titan RTX early because the sales of the RTX GPU's are so bad Nvidia feels they need to reinvigorate the RTX release once again before they lose the Holiday sales season completely?

Maybe Nvidia will announce an RTX price drop across the board for all RTX GPU's?!! Could it be... a Happy Holiday after all?

 

Really!? For 6% more CUDA and tensor cores only! Surely that's not worth it, you're looking at less than 6% performance improvement unless I'm missing something.

 

Maybe because there has been no "leak" of actual specifications? You are reading a place-holder page for future Titan RTX specifications. It's not necessarily the real thing.

I doubt Nvidia would waste time shipping a Titan RTX GPU that only had 6% more performance than the 2080ti. Even the most dedicated Nvidiot sheep wouldn't fall for that, would they? No, a Titan RTX would need to be at least 15% faster, with an MSRP of at least 2x that of the 2080ti.

The current 2080ti market price is $1400-$1900 already, and I don't think Nvidia is going to drop a new Titan RTX GPU with an MSRP near the market price range for the current 2080ti.

Whether the Titan RTX MSRP price is a reasonable increment up from the 2080ti based on actual performance is another "leap" of faith in Nvidia. Nvidia hasn't yet done that for the RTX generation, or any generation of GPU's. The highest performing "halo" product is always scaled much higher in price than the performance uplift alone suggests.

It's possible Nvidia could give up on their RTX cash grab due to low sales so far this Holiday Season, re-price the whole RTX range lower, and put out the Titan RTX within a more reasonable range of pricing, but I really doubt it.

The lowest "reasonable" price given the current MSRP range would be $2499, but I am really expecting Nvidia to put out the Titan RTX for a substantially higher MSRP than the last Titan V MSRP of $3000, because historically that's how Nvidia roll's.

If Nvidia "cheaps out" with this Titan RTX, if Nvidia doesn't make the Titan RTX "special" in any way, if Nvidia just "phone's it in" with only 6% higher performance, only then will the Titan RTX MSRP come in lower than the last Titan V - but then the Titan RTX wouldn't be desirable enough to buy.

Nvidia has willingly let their channel warehouses fill up to the roof rafters with unsold unwanted inventory until their inventory backlog has reached dire conditions, and Nvidia has still not reduced prices.

If Nvidia is willing to pile up $1.7B of inventory instead of lowering prices, eventually bulldozing it under instead of letting it go cheaply in a loving gesture to their customers, I'm sure Nvidia will double down and screw themselves again with the Titan RTX.

 

How would they do that though, how would they make it faster? I mean a fully active die is 4608 cores vs the 4352 of the 2080ti, so that's only 6% more cores. There's not a bigger chip than the TU102 is there, so that would be 4608 cores.

 

Then the Titan RTX is a waste of their "halo" SKU. Even so, Nvidia won't pass up the chance to screw Nvidiots out of more than it's worth. Even with only a 6% performance uplift I don't see a Titan RTX going for less than $2,499.

Likely the Titan RTX will only be sold through Nvidia, so it's market price needs to be it's MSRP, and with the 2080ti already reaching toward a market price of $2,000, Nvidia will need to differentiate the Titan RTX by at least $500.

 

Yeah, we'll have to see, I mean I find it hard to believe it can only be 6% better, but it seems quite likely unless they manufacture a whole new chip.

 

Unless it could be a dual GPU card, x2 2080ti chips on one board?! That's gonna be a lot of power & heat to contend with, but they did it with the Titan Z in 2014! This is the Titan Z: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-z-review,1.html

 

A double GPU Titan RTX would definitely cost more than the Titan V.

An "affordable" Titan RTX with only a 6% uplift in performance wouldn't be enough of a difference to elevate the Titan RTX MSRP fairly above the current street price for the 2080ti.

A Titan RTX performing less and costing less than a Titan V hardly seems worth the effort.

Either way, the Titan RTX is sure to be a disappointment for all, including Nvidia.

 

Research at NVIDIA: The First Interactive AI Rendered Virtual World

 

Nvidia releases Titan RTX with 72 RT cores and 24 GB GDDR6 at $2,499
Guru3d.com by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 12/03/2018 02:18 PM


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NVIDIA PhysX Now Open-Source
PRESS RELEASE by btarunr Today, 15:02
NVIDIA PhysX, the most popular physics simulation engine on the planet, is going open source. We're doing this because physics simulation - long key to immersive games and entertainment - turns out to be more important than we ever thought. Physics simulation dovetails with AI, robotics and computer vision, self-driving vehicles, and high-performance computing.

It's foundational for so many different things we've decided to provide it to the world in an open source fashion. Meanwhile, we're building on more than a decade of continuous investment in this area to simulate the world with ever greater fidelity, with on-going research and development to meet the needs of those working in robotics and with autonomous vehicles.

Full Source on GitHub.

 

Battlefield V: Official DXR Dev Update – Up To 50% Performance Increase!



But but ray tracing is a complete failure, DOA, it will never takeoff and they can't optimize or improve this infant technology at all. Nobody is buying RTX cards.

I'm off for a couple days and will be throughly testing the update tomorrow when it launches.

 

Nvidia's Titan RTX minor performance improvement over the 2080ti isn't worth the 2x 2080ti $2500 price for gaming, maybe that'll stop all of the Nvidiots with more money than sense from buying it...?

"Well, the Titan RTX is *only* $500-$700 more than the street price of the 2080ti during the Holiday season, so it's not that much more... I might as well get the "BEST"!!" - Nvidiot with more $ than sense.


$2500 Titan RTX Specs + DXR 50% Improvement in BFV?
Joker Productions
Published on Dec 3, 2018
The Titan RTX has now officially been revealed by NVIDIA along with its $2500 price tag and specs. Also, Battlefield will receive a patch that promises up to 50% performance improvement for DXR ray tracing features on the RTX 2070, 2080 & 2080 Ti.

Spoiler: Nvidia / DICE BFV RT Update

Battlefield V: Official DXR Dev Update – Up To 50% Performance Increase!
NVIDIA GeForce
Published on Dec 3, 2018
We’ve been working closely with EA and DICE to rapidly optimize DXR Ray Tracing in Battlefield V, improving performance up to 50% and enabling real-time ray tracing at 60+ FPS

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/battlefield-v-december-4-dxr-update/

Learn about all the DXR performance optimizations in Battlefield V Tides of War Chapter 1: Overture from two of the talented developers at NVIDIA and DICE. These updates will be available when Chapter 1: Overture launches on December 4.

Learn More About Ray Tracing in BFV: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/battlefield-v-rtx-ray-tracing-out-now/
Check Out The GeForce RTX BFV Bundle: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/battlefield-v-geforce-rtx-bundle/

NVIDIA Unveils “Titan RTX” Video Card: $2500 Turing Tensor Terror Out Later This Month
by Ryan Smith on December 3, 2018 8:00 AM EST
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13668/nvidia-unveils-rtx-titan-2500-top-turing

Spoiler: Titan RTX vs. Specifications Chart

NVIDIA TITAN RTX
NVIDIA® TITAN RTX™ is the fastest PC graphics card ever built. It’s powered by the award-winning Turing™ architecture, bringing 130 Tensor TFLOPs of performance, 576 tensor cores, and 24 GB of ultra-fast GDDR6 memory to your PC.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/titan/titan-rtx/

" Much like the T-Rex, our new TITAN RTX is a dominating, high-performance beast. Tweet a catchphrase connecting these two behemoths using hashtags #TITANRTX & #tag4trex and you could win the fastest PC graphics card ever built! https://nvda.ws/2Pgqjj9"
https://twitter.com/nvidia/status/1069680211208196098

 

The "improvements" are from removing foliage, hidden elements, and further reduction of objects receiving RT processing.

With RTX, less is more.

 

It’s not as simple as that.

They fixed the random leaves spawning that looked fake and ridiculous. They were literally spawning by the hundreds out of roads and the ground. That has been toned down and will help even not DXR performance and improve realism.

They are also fixed the way rays bounce off foliage which don’t reflect anyways so no loss there.

Obviously they’re doing a lot more and deeper technical talk but all in all they’re optimizing the new tech and performance improvements will only continue so it’s very exciting. Those that though the initial stab was the end result or end of the road were very short sighted. It’s brand new tech using brand new hardware. The sky is the limit.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-battlefield-5-rtx-ray-tracing-analysis

 

Cool, so the specs are now out for the Titan RTX! That anandtech article was a good one. So basically in comparison to RTX 2080ti:

• 6% more cores, but a higher boost clock, resulting in 15% more performance, but that's on stock clocks - if you overclock to the max then it's likely they'll both hit the same clockspeed, so again you're back to only looking at a 6% performance improvement.
• 9% higher VRAM bandwidth, which goes hand in hand in terms of 'balance necessity' with the slightly higher number of cores. If RTX 2080ti is not bandwidth starved then this is not particularly important (don't know if bandwidth starved).
• 24GB of VRAM vs 11GB: not important for gaming - aimed at data scientists/professional stuff.
• 6% increase in tensor cores, and assuming a 6% increase in Ray Tracing cores, but they didn't mention that, so 6% increase in ray tracing capability assumed.
• tensor cores can run FP32 accumulation at double speed of RTX 2080ti, this was an artificial limitation of the 2080ti(all the other RTX cards too) set by NVidia , this is only useful for data scientists and AI/neural networking field, not gaming.

So in reality, if you overclock both RTX Titan & RTX 2080ti, then performance difference in gaming is only likely to be about 6%. This RTX Titan is more aimed at professional users which is where the extra VRAM and double speed FP32 accumulation abilities of the tensor cores come into play.

 

AMD's 7nm GPU Will Challenge RTX GPUs, Titan RTX Is HOW MUCH?!!
Gamer Meld
Published on Dec 3, 2018
AMD's Navi or Vega 7nm GPU will challenge Nvidia's Turing architecture and the Titan RTX is horrible! Stay tuned...


Top 5 Best GPUs Right Now, December 2018
Hardware Unboxed
Published on Dec 4, 2018


Flisker 2 hours ago
"Aaaaaand, best price/performance GPU right now is used 1080ti "

idooops tv 1 hour ago
"No they aren't. Used 1070/ti and 580 are."

Jay Rich 1 hour ago
"...just put the gpu name + warranty in the eBay search engine, seen some 580 8gb's for about $150 used with remaining warranty."

Indirect LC 3 hours ago (edited)
"What made me Choice Vega 64 for 500 was that it included resident evil 2 remake, division 2, and devil May cry 5. Found that more valuable then nvidia."

 

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/battlefield-v-ray-tracing-performance-boost/

Overall, Nvidia and Dice claim that with the new patch in place, RTX Turing GPUs should be capable of delivering the following:

• GeForce RTX 2080 Ti: 60+ FPS at 1440p resolution with DXR Raytraced Reflections set to Ultra quality.
• GeForce RTX 2080: 60+ FPS at 1440p resolution with DXR Raytraced Reflections set to Medium quality.
• GeForce RTX 2070: 60+ FPS at 1080p resolution with DXR Raytraced Reflections set to Medium quality.

Excellent update! 1440p ULTRA DXR at 60+ fps is awesome. Lowering to medium DXR should provide high fps in multiplayer making it totally acceptable for high fps competitive gaming on a 2080 Ti.