PLL Pinmod Overclocking Methods and Examples

the checksum fix worked but i get this error : click
i think the ram is just read and no write????
do you maybe have an trial version on your system which you can upload for me?

 

Yes, I am familiar with that error, I had the same problem with my samsung ram. WP (write protection) must be enabled on your EEPROM, so yes it's read only.

I'll check my system to see if I have a copy of thaiphoon buner, though I haven't used that program for a while.

EDIT: Found it:
http://rapidshare.com/files/417378235/thphn63.zip

 

SetFSB works on my Aspire 7740.The standard FSB is 133 MHz.I can raise it to 167 stable,anything over 168 MHz and power turns off in an instant.Does this indicate the mobo chipset limits or could be ram the limiting factor here?I don't think so but maybe someone might have a clue,as my CPU could go much higher than that.
thank you

 

It could be ram, could also be heat (how are your temps?) and it could be your power supply.

If it's the ram, I think you would expect a BSOD.

I'm leaning towards a power supply problem, whats your power supply rated for?

 

thanks for you reply.PSU is rated 75W however it doesnt matter whether the PSU is plugged in or not.I would also assume that ram problems would rather result in bsod than in power failure.is it possible that the chipset could be responsible?

 

I guess so, but I have no idea how you could change the voltage for the northbridge in a notebook

 

sorry men i'm new of this forum and i want to know if someone knows the pll of a hp dv6 1140el with motherboard quanta 3628.please is 1 year that i search data but i find nothing for overclock my notebook.

 

I have no idea, maybe it's the same as the one in the DV6871us?
If so, there is a link on the first page of this thread.

Best way to check is to open the notebook, maybe this will help:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...lock-generator-pll-your-notebook-desktop.html

 

thanks than you answered me but i already read your guide and don't have find the solution at the problem.i'm seeing now with si-sandra but don't find system clock generator in motherboard.the other system i can not use them because i asked if someone knows the pll

 

sorry moral hazard i have a question.i found 2 pll than when i use this setfsb recognizes the frequencies but when i test to change the fsb for overclock or downclock the notebook crash.the problem is the pll that are not the right or is the bios that giong under protection?

 

It sounds like the PLL is not right.

The BIOS won't have any protection to stop PLL programming, though it's possible that TME mode is enabled, but that wont cause a crash.

What I'm trying to say is, if you do find the correct PLL, it doesn't guarantee that you will be able to overclock.

Most of the time, you will need a pin mod.

 

sorry and how i find a pin mod?

 

You need to first find the PLL.
Then Find the datasheet for the PLL.

Once you have done that, you should be able to see a way to overclock by pin modding the PLL.

If you can give me a link to the datasheet and a photo of the PLL, I might be able to give you an idea for a pin mod.

 

the problem is than i have 2 pll than the software recognizes frequencies but i not are sure than this are the right.in this day i tried all the pll of setfsb and only these two are just but ineffective.the 2 pll are ICS9LPRS365BGLF and ICS9LPRS355BGLF and for othere data you've got to say what you want you can put all.thanks very much for help and for the patience than you have.

 

you'll need to open your laptop and search for the pll on the motherboard .. look at the first post to get more information. when you find the right name of the pll you can start to mod it ...

did the same few weeks ago

 

i find the right pll but when i try to change the clock of fsb the notebook crashed and us think ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...6289-overclock-hp-dv6-1140-a.html#post6679708) than i must do a hardware change.

 

when i start setfsb i can use also another pll but it's the wrong one and i get an crash or nothing happens.
for my self i get an datasheet of my notebook and it says that i have an realtek pll chip so i tryp to overclock with setfsb but it didn't work..
so i open the case and search for the chip and what happens?
i found a different chip, it was the "ICS9LPRS365BKL" and with this information moral_hazard helped me to overclock my notebook.

so for you best way is, to open the laptop case (i needed to open the case from the front not from the back, but this is different from laptop to laptop) and search for the pll chip. after i found it, i post the name of the pll here and moral_hazard helped me out with the datasheet and the rest information for the pll pin mod.

hope you understand everything well, my english is not the best... sorry

 

don't worry but mine is worse than your.the point is that i have found my right pll and it is the only than recognize the clocks but when i test to change fsb the notebook crashed so in the thread than i send you before are the situation.we think that the problem is TME.you can follow the whole story on the link.

 

I don't know how to disable TME without a pinmod, so if you really want to overclock, I suggest taking apart the notebook and be ready to pin mod the PLL.

 

ok but is someone that know about does the pin mod on this series of notebook?i've seen your overclock and think that is a fantastic work but your temperature how are?you have work only meet software?

 

My temps can be seen here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/del...k-powersaving-whining-stop-5.html#post5304106

Right now I'm using a notebook that doesn't need a pinmod and my new CPU doesn't have a working temp sensor.

 

congratulations are beautiful values.i thake 72°c with orthos without overclock in winter at 2.4 ghz.
sorry but if i work with setfsb have the max fsb at 305mhz .i can not change it?because di this work to switch to 2.4 to 2.7 i think is not a great idea.

 

Hello guys,
i have a Dell Vostro 1500 with T5470 and SLG8LP550V PLL IC. I dont know what guide should i use in modding the PLL IC:
- the "Dell Inspiron 1525 & TME-unlock ICS9LPRS365BKL" - cause its kinda similar to the vostro or,
-Dell XPS M1330 FSLx pin mod SLG8LP550V - cause its got the same PLL IC.

basically what i understood by reading through some of the pages is that i need to disconnect the TME (32 in my case) pin from the board and connect it to GND through a resistor of arround 10kohm. But the XPS guide says different ( disconnecting pin 45 and connecting to GND)
I think this is the PLL IC i got
( SLG8LP550V datasheet, Pinout ,application circuits CK410M+LP Clock Generator For Notebook Systems)
Thanks for any help in advance.

 

If you mod pin 45 you will have the FSB @ 266mhz.

If you mod pin 32, you will unlock the PLL and be able to use setfsb to overclock (this way you can choose any FSB frequency that you want).

Either way would be good.

 

The 45 Pin is connected to a resistor or sth. As i need to disconnect the pin from the board can i just remove the resistor and use the space to solder the 10k resistor? The alternative is cutting the circuit and using the PLL chip legs to solder the resistor to them which is kinda hard.

 

Yes I would just remove that resistor.

 

i removed the resitor and connected the 45 pin to GND through 10k resistor but then the laptop doesnt post at all. Just power light comes in and goes away in a few seconds. No fan strarting, nothing. I tried a 7k resitor too but same result. Im pretty sure i will never get the original resitor in place cause its super small. Any help will be appreciated .
Also i connected the 10k resistor to the GND of the whole laptop. Am i supposed to use some special pin as gnd ? or it doesnt make a difference...

 

Any GND should have worked.

The problem might be that your RAM is not stable when overclocked, or even the CPU.

Did you check your soldering with a multimeter?

 

The soldering look fine. Do i need to also do the wire mod on the soccet of the CPU? Do i need a different resitor and should i keep trying with resistors?
When i press the power button i only get the power led for 4-5 seconds and then goes away. If i press the Fn key + power button i get all of the Num lock Caps lock and Scroll Lock leds blinking together. Im pretty sure its a led error code but cant find information about them. If i have other options pls let me know.

 

You dont need any other resistor.

You could try a CPU pin mod to increase the voltage:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...90696-bsel-mod-socket-p-explained-photos.html

 

Hm.. i only see reducing the voltage not increasing (or my eyes are dying on me already )

 

You need to look at the datasheet for core 2 duo mobile CPUs, it contains the VID table and the pinout.

You will see how to increase the voltage if you look at the datasheet.

 

I just cant see the logic of all that volt mod
do i have the (my cpu is t5470 btw)
VID6 VID5 VID4 VID3 VID2 VID1 VID0 VCC (V)
0 --- 0 --- 1 --- 0 --- 0 --- 0--- 0 --- 1.3000
as default voltage setup ? If not what are the default voltages for C2D?
if so i just need to change VID4 to low and VID3 to high to get 1.4 volts, right ?
And anyway shouldn't at least my fan come up even if CPU doest get its voltage juice?
sry for all that messed up questions but im kinda trying to save that old laptop cause its the only PC i have

 

I don't know the default voltage of your CPU, you would probably need the notebook working so you could check in CPUz.

My advice right now is to put that resistor back (it may take a lot of time, just keep trying).

 

its late right now and I don't have time to read the thread, but a google search of my PLL lead me to this post...

I have already found out that setfsb doesn't have it, are there other similar programs that might have it?

what other options for overclocking are there?

 

Hey Moral Hazard, I was trying to send you a PM and for some reason it didn't work. Not very familiar with this forum, so now I am forced to do this all out in the open like and post something completely unrelated to the thread. I noticed you are without avatar and with a name like Moral Hazard, this just will not do. So I have gone ahead and made you a Moral Hazard avatar. If you like it, I have the vector file for it that I can give you as well. I attached it to this post.

 

Thanks, I'll use it

BTW, you need to make 5 posts before you can PM on this forum.

 

can someone clarify this for me?

edit: will any ground work? or is there a specific ground that it should be connected to?

 

Hello everyone!

I am looking for possible ways to overclock my Netbook, a Lenovo S10-3.

It's a N450 CPU @ 10x166= 1.66 GHz and I've replaced the RAM with 2 GB of Mushkin DDR2-800

The PLL is the low-cost SLG8SP513V as you can see from this (slightly blurry) picture:


The datasheet which has been linked here before:
http://rapidshare.com/files/282479151/SLG8SP513V.pdf

Now, the facts are somewhat confusing. Here is the SetFSB dump:


- SetFSB supports this PLL, however only big steps, of 166-200-266-...
Using "set FSB" at 200 just makes the slider jump back to 166 with no other effect.

- Other people have reported that moving the FSB slider slightly,
using the SLGxxxx -256 / -264 PLLs locks up the PC the next
time the HDD is accessed, with the HDD light staying on.

I can confirm this even with TME bit = 1! Even though I'm not
supposed to be able to change the FSB, SetFSB with the -256/-264
will lock up the Netbook the next time the HDD is accessed
if I increase the FSB and press "Set FSB".

This confuses me.

- The datasheet (see above) doesn't even mention TME at all,
but the Acer ZG5 thread linked here a few times claims that
the TME mod works with this PLL as well.

I am also confused about the possibility of a FSLx mod. Looking at the sheet,
I suppose I want to go from 10x166 to 10x200Mhz by changing FSL_A
to 0 from 1. This would also be my desired overclock of this Netbook.
Is this possible without locking the multiplier at 6x?
Is my DDR2-800 RAM going to be fine since it was made for 200x4 Mhz operation?
Based on the picture above, can you tell if this would be a very difficult soldering operation?

Anyway, thanks for reading and for the groundwork laid out in this thread!
Any pointers would be very helpful.

 

Looks like you do have TME enabled (bit 6 of byte 9 = 1).
So that is expected.

Setfsb is probably changing the source for the SATA clock. (bit 1 of byte 0).
This bit can be changed even with TME enabled.

Often the datasheet wont mention TME, don't know why, but it is common.
TME mod should work.

Yes. It shouldn't be locked at 6 if you pin mod the PLL.

Hard to guess.

Looks like it would be difficult. I don't see any track comming off pin 17 (FS_A).

 

hey, thanks for the quick reply, and also sorry for frying the page layout with
my huge picture!

One question: It was my understanding that the bottom right pin in my picture) was pin 17 -
considering that the pin modded in this is supposed to be pin 64 (FS_B):
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1434/img1966h.jpg

it also has a tiny nr 17 besides it in both picutures

- Doesn't that pin go directly into resistor R164?
If yes, can I lift left the leg of the transistor facing away from the PLL and attach it to any GND?

 

-double post-

 

Yes you're right, sorry.

That should work.

 

Hey, everyone.

All this PLL stuff is great, but I was wondering... could there be a simpler way to overclock 800mhz FSB cpus in a chipset that already supports 1066mhz FSB? I guess TME unlock would be necessary. but otherwise, I have this ES t9300 in my m860tu, why cant I just trick my system somehow into running at 1066mhz?
It seems like this in particular could be so much simpler... but as soon as I start thinking of other ways to do it there are just so many possibilities.

 

Intel chipset get locked to x6 multiplier if apply a BSEL pinmod to a stock CPU. Your ES CPU might be different. Worth hardwiring your ES CPU for a 1066Mhz BSEL and finding out. If no go, then consider a FSLx mod + slowed RAM timings to get 1066Mhz out of it.

 

My new motherboard for my fs U9200 arrived. (I 've destroyed my PLL last time)
I hardwire pll my T8100 and....
2.8 to 3.06 (at x11,5).
3dmark06 results for cpu from 1765 to 2311 (without RMclock)

Many thanks to every one in this forum for helping me to get here...
CPU-Z Validator 3.1.

Only problem, I had to change my memories (2*2gb @667) because X3100 with mem at 887MHz driver kept rebooting.
I now have 1*2GB and 1*1GB@533 4-4-4-12 running at 709MHz

Anyway to solve this? ( I want to work at 887MHz)

Thanks a lot.

 

Try using thaiphoon burner or SPDtool to change the ram timings so that it will be stable.
Maybe try running your 667mhz ram @ 533mhz with the stock timings (667mhz timings).

 

I just downloaded spdtool but I cant change anything.
I make the changes and it gives me errors.
Do you think there is a way that my x3100 will compromise at 887MHz?
Is this some kind of driver issue. Because every time I ran at 887 when I stress the graphics my driver reboots.
I ran osx 10.6.4 mainly, but I just switched to w7 to make sure everything runs ok. I never tested it on os x yet

 

I find x3100 graphics is more overclock tolerant if I set "Rapid Memory Power Manager" and Maximum Battery in the Intel control panel.

Otherwise the advice to slow down RAM timings is a good one. X3100 uses the system RAM as vram.

 

Write protection is probably enabled. Can't flash the EEPROM in that case.