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    PLL Pinmod Overclocking Methods and Examples

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by moral hazard, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. Dufus

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    :confused: Do you know what was the problem was? The only thing I did with the second one was to display the counter frequency, functionally it's the same as the first.
     
  2. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'll try a few things and see if I can recreate the problem.
     
  3. Dufus

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    Thanks moral but no need to spend time on why unless you really want to. Hopefully you kept the first download in which case you can just check side by side that they both give the same answer.

    The only things I could think of is if you forgot to reboot or typo'd the BCDedit which seems very unlikely. I don't know if it's possible that waking from sleep could change things, seems unlikely too.
     
  4. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    After I typed your command, I did not reboot. So that must have been the problem?
     
  5. Dufus

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    Yep, the boot configuration needs booting to take effect.

    You can remove the setting by
    Code:
    bcdedit /deletevalue {current} useplatformclock
    to give default setting or set it to no to disable it. You will need to reboot for it to take effect :p :)

    If Windows is using the CPU clock AFAIK you will normally see the Freq is 1/1024th of the HFM. So if you multiply the frequency shown by HPET2 by 1024 it should hopefully give you your normal HFM frequency (before OC'ing).

    Idk why W7 uses the CPU clock as a reference rather than HPET. Maybe there are advantages of doing it that way.
     
  6. Bearclaw

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    Hey Dufus I tried to use the first command but it says
    The boot configuration data store could not be opened.
    The system cannot find the file specified.

    It is running in admin mode.
     
  7. Dufus

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    Bearclaw, perhaps you boot configuration is on an offline disk/partition. Look here at issue 3. Although it's a server OS being described you might find the info useful in resolving your problem.
     
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    I didn't really know about HPET until you guys were talking about it...
    Does the fact that win7 bases it off of CPU clock mean it could cause some major stability issues with overclocking when otherwise it would be totally stable?

    I think I've noticed this with a bsel pinmod but I'm not sure.
     
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    Already solved thanks. I had 2 HDD so the BCD wasn't there.
     
  10. Dufus

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    niffcreature, you might see some timing problems if you software overclock in Windows and Windows uses the CPU clock. With HW mods or loader mods AFAIK there should not be any problems as these happen before Windows calculates the CPU clock frequency.

    Good to hear you got it sorted BC. :)
     
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    but by 'timing problems' you don't mean serious stability issues BSODs etc, right?

    I mean I know anything could cause a BSOD almost but messed up HPET doesn't sound like it would be a direct cause...
     
  12. Dufus

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    Right. :)
     
  13. XSpiritusX

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    Hello and good day to you!
    The first page of this post says to change the bit in registry 2 bit 2 from 1 to 0 to see if my computer is using the PCI2 output for something. However, it seems that the bit in question is already a 0. I have posted a screenshot so you can see what I mean. If I am right, does this mean I should assume that doing only a Method 1 pinmod would be enough for me to use setFSB to overclock my computer?

    [​IMG]
     
  14. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yes, if bit 2 of byte 2 is the correct bit.
    Did you check the datasheet for your PLL?
     
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    Unfortunately, HP has it's datasheets locked away, and I'm not sure how to find the model for my PLL without breaking my laptop open. Talking to the Indians that "help" you in HP Live Chat is a useless activity. My screenshot shows bit 2 of byte 2 being the correct bit, right? I just want to make absolutely sure before opening up my computer to check the PLL chip number.
     
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    The status of TME_READBACK tells us if TME is enabled. Screenshot shows it's status on register 9 bit 6, shown as 65h=1 100101(binary) bit 6=1, meaning no overclocking. You'd need to open up your notebook to apply the TME-unlock PLL pinmod to be able to software overclock it.
     
  17. XSpiritusX

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    Right; I realize this, but I don't want to open up my computer to do the mod if it's not going to let me software overclock. What I wanted to make absolutely sure of is that this screenshot confirms that a software overclock will be doable after a TME unlock pin mod.
     
  18. Dufus

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    Which HP laptop is it?
     
  19. kewlgreen

    kewlgreen Newbie

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    Hey,

    I was wondering if anyone is able to help me figure out how to overclock my Phenom II X4 N930 on an Acer 7552G, with a PLL (I think) of ICS9LPRS480BKL:

    http://laptop-schematics.com/view/7871/

    That is the 7551G so I just assume they are the same PLL.

    I am able to load my clocks in SetFSB, but I am not able to set them because i haven't donated, and the freeware version does not include my PLL.

    Thanks.
     
  20. darnok44

    darnok44 Notebook Consultant

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    Can You show screenshot from '"pll diagnosis" to determine vendor id your Acer 7552G pll. Just to hopefully confirme that it's IDT made. And will see what next. Maby at last we will se what are capable oc amd mobile quads.
     
  21. kewlgreen

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    There you go.

    I hope that is what you needed.
     

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    Yes it's IDT made Pll, most probably , like You said, ICS9LPRS480. Did you try using freeware version setfsb and 9LPRS480 predecessor ICS9LPRS477BKL? If it's not working then You will have to change manually registers in shareware version of setfsb using 9LPRS480. Thanks G.. IDT have datasheet on there site: www.idt.com/products/getDoc.cfm?docID=18687009.
     
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    Well, for some strange reason, the "Get FSB" button in the freeware version stays grayed out no matter what.

    But, I used the shareware version and I am able to "Get FSB" on the ICS9LPRS480 but not the ICS9LPRS477, or the one after, the ICS9LPRS485.

    What would I do from here? How do I know what registers control which parts of the chip?
     
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    It looks for me that byte 11 and 12 store bits used por programming frequency of cpu. This frequency is counted from the equasion but i trully have no idea how to properly read this equasion. If You wanna do this sorte a hard way, make first restore point in system and try to play with registers in market bytes 11, 12 checking in CPUZ if something change. Be prepair that this may cose your system hang and force you to power off and on to come back.
     

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  25. kewlgreen

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    do you know where i could get the ICS9LPRS480.pll that i could import to setFSB.

    Or, could you send me the paid version if you have it? or where i could get it?
     
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    You have to 'donate' ~US$10 via paypal to get the shareware version with newer PLLs. See SetFSB_HomePage .
     
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    Darn :(

    I wish it wasn't that way lol
     
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    +1. Means you're out of luck if don't have paypal.
     
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    yeah, and i don't lol

    is there any way that someone could export the pll file for me?
     
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    does anybody know how to pinmod SLG8SP556V clock generator to set the fsb from 200MHz to 266MHz????
     
  31. XSpiritusX

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    It is an HP Tm2t-1100 CTO.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    I do not really understand how to overclock my T7500 CPU in my Dell Latitude D630. Can I ask someone to describe it for me step by steps?
     
  33. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Looks like you need to disconnect pin45 (FSLb) from whatever it's connected to, then connect it to GND.

    That should take your FSB from 200mhz to 266mhz.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    And where can I find that pin45 and GND? Is it something similar when I pin mod a 400FSB Dothan CPU to 533FSB? Thanks!
     
  35. moral hazard

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    You need to find the PLL on your motherboard (it's a chip that is pretty small and has SLG8LP550 written on it).

    You can tap GND(ground) from the areas around the screw holes in the motherboard. There will also be GND pins on the PLL (should see then in the datasheet if you can find it for your PLL).

    You will need a really small soldering iron to do this mod.
     
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    i'm a newbie :) after searching all over on the internet still i haven't found any guide for overclocking dell latitude e6400 . I jz want to know that is it possible to overclock this lappy :)
    //sr for my bad eng
     
  37. moral hazard

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    SetPLL has been moved here.
     
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    @moral hazard will this method work on dell e6400 :) ?
     
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    just open up my e6400 =_= and do stuff still can't do anything , my keyboard now is dead with few buttons.....
    any way :) t/y moral hazard :)
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    And how is look that PLL chip? How big? I looked under the keyboard, but have not found yet.
    Here is a picture of my motherboard.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    Actually I have found it under the memory sticker. But you know it's legs are so thin, almost impossible to do anything with it :eek:.
    [IMaG=750]http://i56.tinypic.com/n703m8.jpg[/IMaGe]
     
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    Yes it's very hard.

    I would mod the resistors around the PLL and not really touch the pins if possible.
     
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    Atom Ant Hello, here I go again

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    If I correctly understand this guide, I have to cut the pin 45 with a blade and overclocking is done. What do you think?

    "Is actually very simple, take the blade gently slowly out of the 45-foot lead-off to draw that line can not recognize his high CPU, said so much in fact, get a knife. ."
     
  46. moral hazard

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    Yeah it should work (or you might need to connect pin 45 to GND after you disconnect it from the board). But that's hard to do.

    To me it looks like there is a track going from pin 45 to a resistor (hard to see in your pic, but it looks like it).
    So you could remove that resistor, would give the same effect as cutting pin 45 except when you remove the resistor you can always put it back. repairing a cut pin is really hard (IMO).
     
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    Least invasive way would be to attach a parallel < 100ohm pull-down resistor to GND to that existing resistor. This is how a tme-unlock was performed on a HP 2530P here.
     
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    Question re:setpll : when you say r-w everything runs minimized, does it have to always run minimized on taskbar or is it simply that upon boot, it runs minimized to set the FSB, then closes down?
     
  49. moral hazard

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    It does close after setting the PLL.
     
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    That's lovely.

    Now, just a matter of creating a pll.lut.bat file for ICS9LPRS501PGLF. Suppose I could use the closest one in SetFSB.
     
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