Pascal MXM GPU Upgrades

The MSI one is 3.0B... Clevo has the similar format to 1070 etc with the power connector!

 

no one buys high end notebook in japan? i thought they are technology advanced and would love enthusiast laptops.

acer 21x soldered all around, 7000 euro, means mobo must be at least 4000 euro to replace it ROFL. i feel bad for the boys who will be getting it.

 

Surprisingly no. General electronics, TV's, whitegoods, infrastructure they are very advanced.
But when it comes to gaming their games aren't graphically demanding. So just about any system can play them. They'll be happy playing Monster Hunter or Final Fantasy for years on end.

 

Anyway - if the quality is like Acer said, i order one so fast as possible

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build quality looks solid, as for the soldering thats your own preference. spending that much money on a dead end notebook seems crazy, reminds me of Dell xps m2010 which actually still had a small upgrade was kinda unexpected.

im guessing as long as theres support and you can find someone to re solder bga cpu for for you, and intel cihpset supports kaby and canonlake and provide you bga cannonlake i suppose u can still upgrade. difficulty goes way up though.

btw, so whats with the deal with new MXM? socket still look the same to me, also pls tell clevo to put skylake E in their next line up LOL

 

Pretty much. "High end" for Japanese PC games today is usually on the order of a Core 2 Duo with a 256MB DX9 video card. Consoles get the graphics and processor intensive games -- which, historically, is why the PC gaming market in Japan favors light resource games like visual novels and bullet hell shooters and card games.

 

1080 SLI with 1080p/60Hz is an absolutely "No Go"! It should have at least 1080p/75Hz, better 120Hz or a 4k screen.

 

Or the more perfect 1440p/+120Hz. Better for my old eyes

 

Me too

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thats messed up brother. reminds me of lemmings and prince of persia, i had to ask my daddy to install mouse driver so i can play lemmings with mouse instead of keyboard.

 

Not messed up at all. Back in the day, a console like a NES or computer like a C64 with a sprite engine and sound synthesizer could be made to do vastly more visually and audibly intensive games than anything that traced its legacy to the IBM PC. Despite this, western PC game companies pushed the hardware as much as they could in order to compete with console and arcade games. On the other hand, Japanese PC game companies for the most part didn't bother trying to compete. They made games that didn't require dedicated video and audio processors. Things haven't changed much over the years. Western PC game companies still make games that are beyond the capabilities of 95% of the computers out there; Japanese PC game companies continue to make games that will run on 10+ year old kit.

 

using 1 core 1 thread, which is why no software improvement lol

 

If we can get back to the thread......

Any updates on mxm in msi or clevo now these laptops are out in the wild?

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Clevo isn't going to help anyone upgrade to Pascal MXM cards, and neither is MSI.

If you want to plug in a $1000+ Pascal MXM card into a $4000 laptop, and see what happens, please take video so we can all watch the results.

That about sums it up

 

Cmon. It doesnt have to be a $4000 laptop... If everyone thought like that noone would have ever tried putting a clevo card in an alienware, or a kepler or maxwell in anything that needed a vbios mod to get working... At some point someone will try it and try to get it working. One of the cluey back channel resellers - not locked into trying to shift sales onto new units - could make a good little sales channel out of the 1060 or 1070 if all they need is a firmware mod

 

What else would you put a 1080 in besides a $4000 laptop?

I guess it could be a $3500 laptop

What is different this time is we are told these cards aren't backwards compatible, to whatever and whichever extent that is true, it doesn't sound promising.

So noone has posted anything.

Are you gonna buy a MXM Pascal GPU and give it a try?

 

It's not a matter of firmware, as we've been telling you. It's a matter of power. MXM 3.0b notebooks don't provide the power that GTX 10-series cards require.

 

So, specifically, what ASPECT of power delivery? I refuse to believe the story that it's power draw max. The 1060 and 1070 are not 200W+ like the 980/1080 and if they do spike that high so be it, someone with the gear can trst them and show us the numbers.

Anyone able to bring in some actual technical documents or specifications into the discussion? Or are the only people with those docs the ones busy flogging complete new units or the resellers not wanting to rock any OEM boats presumably at a time they're all competing for allocations of limited post-launch stock

If I had the electrical engineering / IT systems knowledge along with a grand of play money I would absolutely be fiddling right now. But to give an indication of my level I wouldnt have even been able to flash a bricked bios chip with a CH341A and cable if it werent for the youtube guides and a PM from Svet giving me the part details to buy to do it

 

Maybe p870dm works with new format, but old chassis one needs few internal changes and also Pascal gpu power connector have 8-lines (4x + and 4x -) cable, old one have only 4 lines (2x + and 2x -). We must have still somewhere p870dmg in stock

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GTX 980 "desktop" notebooks need an auxiliary power connector for the GPUs because the standard MXM 3.0b sockets cannot provide the power these cards require. This connector does not exist on (most) GTX 980m notebooks. Therefore it is not possible for these notebooks to provide the power that GTX 980 desktop requires regardless of form factor.

GTX 1070 has the same (close enough) power requirements as GTX 980 desktop. Second verse, same as the first.

 

Any word on upgrade kits for us older P870DM1 owners?

 

We awaiting now for spare parts for testing.

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Rep added

 

So these cards will fit our old models properly? (GTX 1070/1080?)

 

We check this soon.

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Existing Clevo 1080/1070 (even the 1060 probably)cards wont.
At least not without mods.

 

I see what he meant now. I thought there were new upgrade kits for us older models like the rumors I've been hearing.

However what's going on in actuality is that he will test the current DM2 based cards in the P870DM but we all know those are going to require some hard mods.

 

Yeah, i really hope the former is true. Or if they release upgrade kits later on down the line, but by that time im going to move to an eGPU setup.

 

By that time I'll either have a Titan X(Pascal) in my desktop and no P870DM anymore OR I'll have a P870DM2(GTX 1080) barebones and transfer all of my P870DM components into it and sell the P870DM barebones.

Or if I can sell both my P870DM barebones and my desktop I'll have the P870DM3 barebones.

 

I purchased a

P753DM-GS

8 months ago with the hope i could put a pascal card in it. I'm new to the clevo scene... when you say the older models won't be able to slot this card does that include mine?

 

Welcome to NBR and Clevo forum
Yes!!

 

Yes, of course

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Even the 1060s? im about to cry...

 

He's a reseller not a company rep... It's not his fault for the **** Clevo pulled.. Trust me I bought a P771ZM a year back and even I feel screwed...

 

This is ********.... class action?

 

plus some gtx 980 desktop cards are slightly bigger than standard mxm 3.0b form factor

 

No.

 

Apparently there's a new 1070 GTX upgrade kit for some Clevo laptops that Eurocom is offering. It's not the 1080, but it is a slight upgrade over the 980 GTX - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...enix-has-arisen.781814/page-783#post-10348684

Let's hope price comes down if more vendors can offer the kit. Also, I'm still hopeful someone, somewhere is trying to figure out how to get a 1080 GTX to fit in this form factor.

 

I saw no additional power connector anywhere in that video

The size issue depends on the notebook. The german guy who shoehorned the 980 into his alienware could do it with minimal dremel use. (Again, no power connector). In my 16F4 GT60 though the MXM board has Ram slots and a sata board right next door.

But geez, there is no pleasing some people. Gone from whining about there being no upgrades possible, straight to whining about the cost and/or that there is no 1080 upgrade yet. (edit, that comment not aimed at poster above rather some comments in the thread linked to)

 

This gpu is not dedicated gpu from clevo/kapok - this is msi card and doesnt worth from 1x980 desktop.

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And they are all perfectly valid reasons to whine.

 

So no official upgrades from Clevo then?

 

Nop. We still working on it

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"We" as in you (CEG) or Clevo?

 

As CEG of course.

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If you guys get 1070 SLI or 1080 to work, let me be the first to know.

 

I'm also interested about upgrade my P775DM to gtx 1070. If it possible i am first to buy. Let mi know plz.

 

Someone needs to make a 990m, or something like that

 

I dont believe pascal MXM is coming out (hopefully Im wrong). I would love to upgrade my 880m pair and get 1080 GTX. clevo-extreme should expect my money in day one if he can accomplish that with a decent price.

One more thing to ask, if the upgrade is possible, how to upgrade (if possible) the HDMI interface to support 4k@60fps?

Many thanks.

 

Upgrade is in Progress



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