SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

Hm, now what if the prices were as follows:

OCZ Vertex 2 100GB: $329.99 + no tax + free 2-day shipping = $329.99 (Amazon with Amazon Prime)

or

OCZ Vertex 2 120GB: $332.49 + no tax + free 2-day shipping = $332.49 (Amazon with Amazon Prime)

or

Corsair Force 120GB: $295.99 + tax + $2.99 shipping = $326.37 (NewEgg)

 

Force 120, cheapest and fastest.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6361339&CatId=5300

Amazon.com: Corsair 120 GB Force Series Ultra Fast TRIM Supported Solid State Drive CSSD-F120GB2-BRKT: Electronics

 

Ok, will be ordering this one Unfortunately, I won't be able to order from TigerDirect because they've screwed over my father in the past (didn't ship a laptop, was a headache to get refund). I guess $30 more won't hurt, and NewEgg's CA warehouse is only 40 miles from my home.

 

Didn't think about this before but OCZ offers three year warranty while Corsair offers two.

If you value that year extra you might want to get OCZ Vertex 2 120GB.

 

Ok what do you have to do to 128GB Crucial C300 SSD when you get the laptop? Do i have to turn some stuff or what? Also what about TRIM?

 

Nothing you need to do. Just a clean install. Windows 7 will arrange TRIM for you.

(And installing Intel RST driver, if you haven't already done that. Even if you don't get an SSD)

 

You should make sure you have the latest firmware as well.

 

Phil: I haven't heard that before. So there are gains for a regular hdd with the latest RST driver as opposed to whatever Win7 installs?

 

That's what I believe but I'm not sure about it. I have tested it about one year ago but can't remember what came out.

 

I'm definitely going to do so with my Crucial SSD that is yet to arrive in the mail, but will try it on my regular HDD tonight when I get home. Nothing to lose and if it makes things faster, it's a bonus...Thanks.

 

I just read a review that said that Corsair has upgraded the warranties to 3 years: SandForce showdown: Corsair's Force F100 and OCZ's Agility 2 and Vertex 2 SSDs - The Tech Report - Page 10

 

why does the RST driver help with the C300?

 

Some have recorded getting faster speeds using the RST driver versus the standard one Windows installs...

 

It's a driver for the Intel controller.

Here's the Vertex LE with default MS driver.



And here with Intel RST driver

 

Hmm, I wonder if I'm missing something. I went to download the latest RST driver and in the install text it states "If you have a 64-bit system, use F6flp64.exe". However, there is no .exe file in the download. I went to look at the 32bit download and the exe file is missing as well. What am I missing here? How does one install the driver in Win7? This is an existing install of Win7 btw...

 

Go to device manager > IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers > Standard AHCI 1.0 Serial ATA Controller ( right click ) > Update Driver Software > browse the folder (f6flpy96x64) > ok.

Enjoy!

 

I was running a CrystalDiskMark to see if there is any performance degradation happening on my C300.



Ahh... the write performance is terrible.

Turned out I had disabled write caching. I enabled it and now everything is back to normal.

 

Just ordered the Corsair Force 120GB on NewEgg. Can't wait to benchmark it

EDIT: What program would I use to calculate startup time?

 

http://www.planetsoft.org/utils/BootTimer.exe

If you want to learn how to boot in 8 seconds go here:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...-your-windows-7-boot-time-tweaks-allowed.html

 

I guess I must be old fashioned. I still really like my Corsair Nova 128. Has been fast and bulletproof and fast.

I will be looking at the new Intel's in Q4, but they had better be faster than mine or no way.

Indilinx rules!

 

Cape... Technology is always going to be one step ahead big guy. Personally, any common sense jump requires a system jump to SATA3 as well or the SSD is still going to give you much the same.

I wouldnt be surprised if the revamped Intel is nothing more than the old without the write cap.

 

Hey Les, darn, as I just built my new machine a few months ago with no sata 3. I hope you are at least partially wrong about that. Maybe one more round before that is necessary.

Q4 should be very interesting. I bet it is beautiful up in Canada this time of year

 

Cool, thanks! Seems that my current boot time is ~34 seconds. I hope the SSD will improve this figure

 

Hello guys
I think have a big problem with my SSDs !!
and it starting pisses me off !!!
take a look on the pictures in sequence ..
I started copy 6gb folder and look what transfering speed doing between two ssds !! I cant belive that !!!
anybody knows this suppose the mean ????? and then it dropped on 35MB/s

 

Download and run either CrystalDiskMark or AS SSD, and post a screenshot of the results to give us a better idea of how the drive is performing.

 

hi guys, long time browser/lurker (LOL), first time poster.
I just bought the Kingston V series 128GB ssd for my Acer 3820TG. I did lots of research beforehand and even though I knew it wasn't the fastest SSD, I preferred the GB/$ value.

After installing it, i did the recommended tweaks like disable hibernation, system restore, superfetch, prefetch, etc etc. (though not pagefile)

I just want to ensure I didn't get a dud or mess up anything during the install (I didn't bang the motherboard around at all during install). Right now, my SSD is running as warm as the old 500gb 5400rpm HDD, and boot times are pretty much unchanged (30 seconds) (and i've reduced timeout to 0, stopped unnecessary startup programs and tablet input, no gui, and enabled both cores).

Here's my benchmark using AS SSD:
The read and right speeds seem exactly on par with what's reported on the retailer spec sheets.

According to Speccy, the idle temp for the SSD is 45C, and I can feel it under the palm pad, same as the old HDD.

My laptop's specs are:
W7 HP
Intel i5 430m 2.27GHz
4GB DDR3 RAM
Intel HM55 (southbridge)
ATI 5470 HD 512MB, with switchable to Intel GMA HD

Also of note (I don't know if this has any relevance) on Speccy, "(IDE)" appears beside the SSD name and IDE appears under "Interface" on the Hard Drive screen, but I've confirmed several times in the BIOS, it is set to AHCI mode.

Is my SSD running as normal?

 

What controller does this Samsung use and is it any good???

Samsung SSD | Meet SSD Overview

 

I need a small(32-64G) SSD as windows 7 boot drive.Is X25-V still a good choice? My budget is around $150. Any other suggestions? Should I go for sandforce or Intel firmware?

 

Phil,

That discussion we were having about the C300 is done. Opinion is always appreciated if you wish.

 

What SSDs do you have and how are they connected?

Have you installed Intel Rapid Storage Driver?

PS. bypassing the language filter is against the forum rules.

Have you installed Intel Rapid Storage Driver?

PS. I doubt disabling superfetch will boot performance.

Judging by the first benchmarks that were posted earlier it's nothing special.

It performs below Indilinx, Sandforce etc.

Corsair Force 40 is much faster. For $150 you can also pick up a Vertex 1 60GB or Agility 2 60GB or C300 64GB. All of them are a lot faster than Intel 40GB.

I will check out your review Les.

PS. The link in your signature did not work. This one does:
The SSD Review: The Crucial C300 64 Gb SSD Review - Introduction

Edit: Nice review Les. I especially like the real world benchmarks.

I think running in safe mode is not representative for normal usage. I would like to see what the file copy result will be in normal mode.

 

thanks Phil. Did not want to let an up and comer sneak in without me knowing Samsung is a force to be reckoned with so I will still keep my eye on them.

 

Samsung 470 might get interesting from a GB/$ perspective.

 

I am still trying to improve performance in in Crucial C300 256GB SSD. When i look at the performance monitor for disk activity after bootup - i see a lot of disk activity going on for ReadyBoot? Isn't that disabled by default in Win 7 for SSD.

Do i need to disable it and if so, how?

 

Try searching this thread for readyboot, it is explained here;
http://forum.notebookreview.com/win...-your-windows-7-boot-time-tweaks-allowed.html

 

@Phil

Hi I have it connected normaly as SATA-AHCI but one is connected on the place where blu-ray used to be so in optibay is one
Second one is on HDD Bay as normal
I don't have installed Rapid storage Mngr. but i dont think that's problem
I turned of write cache on both but no change ..
I should install SATA patch cos on sony web they says it need to be installed But that's for vista no for Win 7 .. dunno ..
I have two identical Samsung SSDs (MMCRE28G5MXP_OVB)
220/200 speed
I have updated firmware as well .

 

Musata, for optimal performance Intel Rapid Storage Driver is necessary.

 

Out of curiosity, why look on the sequential write only?

Why not run some bench tests like CDM, ATTO, AS SSD which could tell us more of your SSD current performance/status?

 

Thanks Phil. Even after disabling readyboot, i am getting the same 22MB/sec(read) and 14MB/sec write. I tried the crucial forum suggested way of disabling some of the services using msconfig(i didn't touch any of the windows one though apart from the recommended ones).

 

Ah that doesn't sound good. Seems like your HP has some driver problems. Your performance looks good in safe mode but not good in normal mode.

Did you mean 22MB/sec write and 14MB/sec read?

What you could try is a clean install without being connected to the net. And then before you install any drivers or software to run Crystal. Make sure your laptop is in high performance.

If that fails it might be worthwhile to do a secure erase, although I don't see why that would work, you never know.

 

Yes, i meant what you said.

Is there any tool for secure erase?

 

no comments on my post? did i post it in the wrong thread?

 

why would i run som enot realistic tst when i can see that copying is real world and it's crap ?

 

If you can tell all that those programs tell you simply by doing things real world you need to start a business because I cannot and I have been in the game, as most here from day one. Secondly, my thoughts are that you might want to adjust your responses just a bit since we are here to assist you.

Now...let me give you a real world example of how Crystal Disk Manager can assist you. Many people elect to clone from HDD to ssd and believe that all went well until one day they elect to run a Crystal test. Whilst running the test, they notice that there 4k random writes are only like 5MB/s where they should be upwards of 50MB/s. So they come here and ask for help.

We here are interested to see if the problem is software related or hardware (ssd) related. Most likely its a problem with the cloning process because we have seen it a million times before but we ask the person to run a Crystal score in safe mode and then one normally (which he has already done).

99% of the time they return saying holy smoke! What a great score in safe mode!!! We then have now confirmed that the problem was, in fact, with the installation. Rarely, it just may be the drive to which an RMA and exchange is advised.

So here we started with a guy who for no reason but to see his speeds did a test only to find a software problem interfering with the system and we solved the problem...all through common sense and use of CDM.

 

Don't you think its worth running those unrealistic test (as you said) which can help you find what is causing your performance loss?

I'm only trying to help you.

Good luck anyways.

EDIT: Thanks Les for chiming in with more detailed example.

 

nitroblu,

your drive seems slightly low (90 vs. 110 AS SSD score), but otherwise seems 'fine' for a drive of its type in an actual system.

See:
Kingston 128GB SSDNow V Series SNV425-S2 Gen 2 SSD Review - ATTO v2.41 & AS SSD Benchmarks - Legit Reviews


Are you noticing any anomalities with it, or did you just want to compare benchmarks?

 

I just installed a Vertex 2 60GB into my E6410 and did not see any decrease in boot time at all if anything it increased! (Boot time = On button to Windows logon screen)

With a clean install of Win 7 Pro 64 with 160GB 7200RPM HDD it took ~37 seconds

With a clean install of Win 7 Pro 64 with 60GB SSD it took ~37 seconds

I'm really disappointed as my XPS M1330 (bloated with software and Win 7 Pro 64) with Intel X25 G1 booted to Windows logon in ~20-25 seconds.

 

I have installed Rapid and no changes..

 

Hi
I know you want help me that's why am here but test wont help me ..
I made 200 tests already with almost all software but that wont sort my problem ... i need do something else .. and that i need to know ..

 

Same recommendation for you mate. Run some bench test to see if you have it installed correctly else I can't think of any way to diagnose your problem.

ie, alignment, startup apps.

 

thanks for replying !

the anomalities i've been noticing are the relatively high idle temperatures (I was under the impression they run much cooler?), the same temperature as my old HDD.

It also seems to be drawing more power - though I haven't tested this yet, this is purely observational. With my old HDD, I got 6 hours on a full charge a few days ago, doing pure word processing with no wifi on. I tried to do the same thing today, all the same settings, only got 3 hours out of the battery, and the word processing was at the same level (no graphics, charts, etc). I was also under the impression SSDs draw less power, all things equal?