SSD Thread (Benchmarks, Brands, News, and Advice)

lol, maybe we still need to wait...
my samsung SSD writting is 80MB/s now for both seq and 512k

 

I shall be dreaming Intel dreams tonight.

 

i am dreaming 320G intel SSD, with extra writing boost.

 

Sounds like we need to get the Lenovo OEM SSD in order to use the update. This only choice now is to wait for Dell to release the firmware. Oh well.

 

one more week ,one more week.
i hope samsung will release something on monday, since Lenovo has already released the new frimware.

 

I updated the firmware on my Lenovo SSD and I didn't see any performance gain. Not sure if TRIM is included in the firmware, but it doesn't appear so. Most likely implements a GC for previously non-GC enabled firmware.

 

Try logging off for about 10 minutes and see if there is any HDD activity light action. The GC on Samsung controller requires the drive to be idle to initiate. Supposedly the Intel controller GC function works in real time. I have an Nvidia chipset and have to use the sleep function, then when I press the power button to resume I leave it at the logon screen. It doesn't take very long to do it's thing and restore performance.

Yesterday I intentionally wrote zeroes to the free space using CCleaner "wipe free space". There is nothing that I know of that will degrade my SSD performance worse than that. Put the PC to sleep for a couple minutes then resumed to the logon screen. There was alot of HDD light activity for about 3 minutes and that was it. The performance was restored.

 

I am dreaming of 320GB SSD too (but i wouldn't need all that space)

and a write-speed boost up to 120MB / sec (as reparation for making us all wait even longer, give us even more speed!) and TRIM.

 

I'm dreaming of Intel 80GB G2 performance boosts.

 

I'm dreaming of.. well actually, my stuff right now all works perfect even while my ssds are old and 'unhip' by now

right now i'm finishing polish on my media center, which now can playback digital cable tv including hd, bluray, all stuff from the server, and even my old consoles (n64 and gameboy added right now, all full-hd on 2m x 1.1m projection). all with the remote + a wireless xbox 360 controller for games it's awesome.. powered by one mtron 64gb right now (as is my main desktop.. no raid0 anymore).

win7 is nice together with the home server. should get the powerpack3 in 2 days to make them work perfect together..

yeah.. that's it. i've shown my e-*****

 

sounds like my setup

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1170306

 

yeah similar but your server rack is gorgeous i don't have a rack, see my webpage

 

The way to know is to download CrystalDiskInfo, which will tell you whether your drive supports TRIM or not:
http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

 

here is the new email I received from Samsung 2 mins ago,
the ans is vague, so i am implying that the new stuff will be delayed, and maybe no more surprise at the end of Nov??

 

Sounds pretty crappy on Samsung's part. They've apparently been telling OCZ that there will be a new firmware for the Summit drives 'any day now' for months, and that email is not inspiring at all.

 

I may be old and unhip, but my SSD will be young and hip

 

Dave Permen, can you believe that it comes tomorrow! Finally, I get a good SSD, I am pretty sure. nice and fast.

 

hahaha.. for you, there's right now just one song that comes to mind:

I'm sooo excited.. Oh I just can't hide it ... lalalalala



well. my mtron (3.5", but half height) doesn't fit into my media center. so i have to get something new in there. i consider a 40gb intel..

 

Yeah, I am pretty excited, and yet i have much work to do, plus the dental surgery, so I am not as focused as I might be.

 

haha. well, i'm quite unexcited to buy another ssd right now. money pressure doesn't really support it..
then again, the mtron on it's own isn't that funny.. the raid0 made it much faster (the mtron doesn't have 10 parallel lanes, like the intel.. so i quite often hit a parallelization-limit on them, which the controller made invisible).

well well.. not in a good mood anyways.. it's monday!

 

I wish I didnt have those 3 wisdom teeth, so I could have extra money to get two 128G SLC SSD

 

nah, just get intel mlc.. more bang for the buck. i currently use slcs, and intels. i like the intel more. memory type is unimportant (and yes, i believed otherwise for a long long time). the only thing that matters is what the controller makes out of them.

 

yea, I am thinking about get 160G intel for OS and program disk, and samsung 256 to be the backup disk.... coz intel 4k random is really good. I was thinking about get Solidata 64G SLC ssd coz the price is really cheap, only $350 or so, but 64G is not enough for me.

 

ronan_zj,

64GB is not enough for anyone IMO that actually uses a computer to produce output.

I just tried a Torqx 64GB SSD and when empty, I was smiling like a cat that swallowed the canary, but when it was just over 50% filled, the performance dropped like a rock (19MB/s anyone?) even though Anand says that Indilinx based controllers stay consistent as they fill, that's not what I have found in my own use.

And, this is with a TRIM aware O/S (Win 7) and TRIM aware firmware for the drive too. (very sad... )

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=436882

 

Hmmm, worringly it seems to be saying that my Intel drive doesn't support TRIM -



this is running on Win7 HP 64-Bit

 

new firmware?

 

Hi, I need a lil help.

My windows is noticeably slower starting from yesterday.
like when i browse my folders...the spinning thing appears for a second before the folder opens. I know it's not THAT slow, but still.
I have windows 7 ultimate on 160 G2 intel drive.
the drive is not full. I've only used up like 80GB. and windows was installed less than a month ago.
is there any maintenance or something i can do?

 

maybe try to run that batch:

Defrag Boot Files it does a lot of house keeping.

 

tried it. it's still the same.

 

ccleaner?

 

lol, i run ccleaner like at least 5 times a day.
should i try those GC things? or does g2 drives do it on their own?

 

is the hdd light actually glowing while it's waiting for something? if not, it's not the ssd that's the problem, just your installation.

what GC things?

 

Garbage collection.

should i reinstall windows?

 

i know what GC is, but i just don't know how you want to "try those GC things". what would you do, exactly, to "try them"??

 

G2 doesnt have GC tho...

 

depends. each ssd has some clean up routines. but it's not like you can trigger them somehow. that's why the term gc is used: they are for automatic clean up. and yes, even the gen1 had it, and did/does it all the time. in the first firmware there was a bug that could prevent the gc to work well which resulted in a very bad slowdown over short time, then.

it does have a gc to clean up it's own mess. but not a gc to clean up the os mess (due to lack of trim based cleaning). other ssds do have that (or get called to have that, prove actually still lacking)

 

ok, i am confused now.
Dave, are u saying intel SSD G1 and G2 have GC functioning like OCZ Vertex and Summit?

 

davepermen, see this post:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5548577#post5548577

the defrag part will not run in Win 7 with an SSD installed.

Thatoe, yes, that's my experience also (used PerfectDisk and Patriot.exe (wiper.exe) because of the 'problem' I pointed out to davepermen in the link above.

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=436882

for more details.

 

no, i'm saying all can clean up their mess (which one can call GC for marketing hipness).

some claim to be able to clean up the mess from the file system, too, a.k.a. making trim unneeded. but which ones really go how far, i'm unsure.

but the intel sure does clean itself, like all ssds actually. gc is a simple term for a simple thing, but they used marketing to sound it like it's the awesome next big thing.

 

and even while the defrag part might not run, having the batch at hand is best. sometimes, one uses it on an ssd where the defrag doesn't matter. sometimes on a hdd, where it does.

and btw, file defrag is still a nice thing, even on an ssd. having to go through several hops in the nfts file system to collect the info where to actually to read the boot files from will sure not GAIN you performance.

 

Oh yes, I always have it on my usb key as a quick fix on computers I have to use.

But if the Win 7 detection of an SSD disables the boot time defrag - then the command to processidletasks skips some of the benefits that running that process normally has too. (As can be seen by an Analyze of the disk map in PerfectDisk; there are no 'boot' files).

On the Torqx though, the consolidate free space option in PerfectDisk 10 actually slowed the drive down. Hmmm....

Not to mention that it took 45 minutes to run (on 46GB of data).

 

no one uses perfectdisk really. marketing crap, placebo..

the boot time defrag and the processidletasks are independent, dunno how you want to see skipping the LATER one affects the FIRST one, but well.. i don't care. it helps, never hurts.

 

Your X-25M G2 160GB has firmware 02G9:



You need firmware 02HA for the Auto TRIM command plus the increased sequential write speeds.

Intel has made an announcement back on November 16th, 2009 that the 02HA firmware will be re-released by the end of the month. Just hang tight!

Cheers,
Kermee

 

davepermen,

you are really showing how little you know. I'm shocked!

One of the processidletasks functions is to collect information from the O/S so that it knows which files are used for boot and then the second 'defrag c: -b' command uses that information to put them in the fastest part of the disk.

As for PerfectDisk - sure, it's a placebo that makes a computer that one owner thought was 'virus ridden' to a smooth, quiet (no more HD head chatter) and yes, even Faster computing experience.

But don't test it on your mechanical drives (if you still have any)...

 

perfectdisk wants money for it's placebo. yes, it's a placebo, as its a defraggler which defrags for high performance for the first some days. afterwards, you have to continue to run it so often that you spend more time using it than you could ever have gained. so far, free to use defraggler beats it at the long-time-performance of it's defragmentation, and, at it's price.

and no, i don't even defrag mechanical drives. they are mostly data hives anyways. they are in my home server.


about processidletasks. well, nice to know, but, then again.. for what do i need to know that, again, exactly? it works, it works well, even on ssds. maybe one task is useless, maybe not. it still works.

 

I've been a bit out of the loop... Has this drive started shipping to North America yet?

 

no, should be next year afaik (but i don't have any reliable new news about that.. intel one time said january)

 

So, any more idea???
I"m sure it's not hardware problem. It was fast and suddenly went slow these days.
and installing/copying stuffs is still fast. it's just when i'm browsing the files.
CrystalDiskMark still shows the same speeds.

 

Maybe CES with Arrandale.

 

yeah, most likely. and a preview of G3 + i9

and i would, if i would be there, so want to just take it with me.. you know.. to test that stuff out..