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    Successful MXM GPU Upgraded Laptops

    Discussion in 'Hardware Components and Aftermarket Upgrades' started by sicily428, May 21, 2017.

  1. razor0601

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    Ah ok, next week I am trying an RTX 3000 in AW18 and Precision M6700. Does the RTX cards also have only EDP support?
    And is it possible to overclock with a BiosTweaker?
     
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    It's the Hp one ? or the Aetina one ?
    It's gonna be useless unless you have a way to flash other vbios, it will not work in the M6700 right out of the box (it's very unlikely knowing Pascal vbios issue), as for the AW18 it should work with Dell vbios. Turing and Pascal card only support numerical video output, so only eDP, Display port and HDMI would work unless you are running optimus.
     
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    I think it's a HP card. And it also doesn’t work with Optimus enabled in the M6700?
    So I have to flash a Dell Vbios with the external Programmer?
     
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    it could work, it depend on the vbios of the card.
     
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    This is the Vbios and was working in an MSI GT70: 90.06.26.00.0B
     
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    what's the issue with M17xR2 and maxwell card ?
    I think you'd better off taking an RTX4000 for your M18x R2
     
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    Apparently Maxwell cards such as 980M have messed up colors on the M17xR2 with RGB display becuase it is a 8 bit panel. One member modified to 6 bit panel and works with maxwell but I do not want to get rid of RGB panel.

    I am wondering if M5000M would work since it's a quadro card. Maybe installing the drivers? But idk anyone who has one to test and anyone who tested it.

    I made a list of M17xR2 compatibility based on what I read:

    285M/5870M - Native GPUs everything works

    7970M - v1.2 Clevo models native fan control, onboard audio and sound through DP/HDMI (Dell/MSI no fan control) Then what does v1.0/1.1 do?

    8970M - Clevo models same as above (Dell/MSI no fan control)

    680M - Requires fan control? Onboard audio working? Sound through DP?HDMI working?

    780M - Has IRQ conflicts? There was a driver mod somewhere here that address these IRQ issues, I will dig them up later and update on this...

    M1000M - Apparently works fine according to one ebay listing

    K3000M - Works according to one forum member here

    K4000M - Works according to me, fan is constantly around 23xx-24xx RPM though, onboard audio works, will confirm HDMI/DP sound later

    M6100/8950M - Works? Fan control? Onboard audio? HDMI/DP sound?


    970/980M - Inveted/messed up colors? Require 6 bit panel mod (kills R2 purpose today IMO)

    I would prefer P5000 in M18xR2 due to perfect fitment and compatibility. As far as I know the RTX cards are not standard mxm because of the core screw holes are moved and the card is a tiny bit wider. There are rumors of RTX cards in standard mxm 3.0b format in fall of this year but we will see.
     
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    As my addition I'll say that 7970M CLEVO 1.1 works fine, with native fan control, and with Crossfire-X. There is a thread around the forum about that, and it was actually saying that 1.2 was not encouraged to put in. 1.1 would be my go-to, if anyone needs it I've got a pair of vBIOSes that worked for me.

    M6100/8950M is a wonderful card for that system, it's absolutely plug and play, with native fan control and audio working fine. I use it as my benchmark card for all the older laptops, since it's a "one size fits all" kinda card, anything else may not work, but not this one :)
     
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    I have a dead 7970m (v1.0 - 015.017.000.001.042717) wonder if a heat gun would fix it lol

    Does 1.1 vBIOS work on v1.0?
     
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    No idea :) I can send it to you :)
     
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    Unfortunately, something is wrong.
    The card received the MSI Max-Q Vbios. (Rev:A)
    He's not coming up. You can't see your laptop. SG mode ..... the fan is spinning.
    I have an open bios, lots of settings. In vain.
    Is this over, or is there some other magic to hardware recognition?
    What should I set up in the bios?
    /MSI GT70 2OC, i7-4940MX........../
     

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    Thats 3 threads Ive seen with the same post, just make a thread dude.
     
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    I know that the GT70 didn't recognize the 1080 zotac, might be the same for the P5200..
     
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    If I'm not mistaken all 3 Max-P. That's not good for me.
     
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    What makes you not recognize it? Motherboard Bios?
    What if a GT70-2OK Workstation bios goes up?
    https://www.msi.com/Workstation/support/GT70-2OK-Workstation
    I've already used it. I used to have a Workstation.
    It has been changed, rewritten.
    Would you have more chances? Would the situation be better?
     
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    You misunderstand, but that is typical I guess
     
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    I've tried them before.
     
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    Im tellin' you that you're spamming. If you seek aid then create a thread and @mention some people / look through threads where its already been attempted.
     
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    Has anyone here tried R9 M390X or W7170M in LVDS laptop?

    @Raidriar has stumbled upon the AMD S7100X MXM card. Might be worth looking at.
     
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    Important to note W7170M and S7100X are NOT the same card. Different cores!
     
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    I think 1-2 people might have tried it in the M6600 but I cant be certain
     
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    I know someone has tried the W series card here...I just don't remember the username.

    EDIT: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/m17x-r4-and-wx-7100-driver-detection-issues.821133/

    It was the WX7100 that people tried. Works in SG mode in M18xR2 and M17xR4 or PEG with eDP 120Hz in M17xR4. This is a newer Polaris based GPU.

    So the S7100X might have some hope.
     
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    sicily428 Donuts!! :)

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    W7170M and SX7100 should be the same core. I know the W7170M works in the M6800, as well was the 7710. I believe it also works in the 8740W. At the price you could get a 970M, I'd say its of questionable value given you can do zero tweaking to one. I had a M390X AW15 and the amount of issues I had with it.....
     
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    Well I think W7170M killed my m17xR2 motherboard. Same issue @King of Interns had with his M15x.

    I didn't even get to flash the GPU vBIOS so I won't know for sure if it will work because that's what allowed it to work in 8740w.

    I think something is weird with these GPUs that cause them to kill the M15x/M17x series MBs. Dont know if one of the pins is changed or something. I mean I put mine in the second slot at first so I could flash it in windows.

    970M doesn't work in M17xR2 without inverted colors.

    8970M is fastest GPU right now with no issues except brightness control.
     
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    8970M working in M17xR3:

    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/23225370

    Requires specific vBIOS. @Raidriar vBIOS works fine for me:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/m17x-r2-8970m-crossfire-upgrade.814434/

    PEG mode. To flash vBIOS, use SG mode first so that iGPU works and no 6/8 beeps. Then once flashed you can switch to PEG. His vBIOS has no UEFI portion which further supports my idea higher end cards like 980M can work maybe even 1070 with 120Hz display, if someone was able to strip out the UEFI (gop) portion of an nVidia vBIOS.


    EDIT: Think I found out how to do it....anyone have a 9 series card or MX000M series card I can borrow? :D
     
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    [​IMG]
     

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    All I got is an 860m, a more modern card would be pretty cool though!
     
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    860m already works. 980M/M5000M or 1070 series could work but need testers.

    I modded a M4000M vBIOS for @MrMogwai and 980M vBIOS for @Baddemichl so awaiting their results.

    P5200 didn't work but it didn't work in the original working systems either (black screen due to signed Quadro vBIOS)
     
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    I know I'm one of the testers, but I haven't had enough time recently for a big one like that to haul through. I'll take a gander at it as soon as my schedule slows down to a state I'm able to gather my thoughts and scrounge through my toys.
     
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    The Quadro P5200 ..... let's talk about photos!
    It will not allow you to upload. A vbios .... P5200_HP_ZVRG1.rom
     

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    you need to compress it into zip file
     
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    Thanks! I forget.
    I downloaded this bios file from this forum. For me, it works well.
     

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    Does anyone have any performance metrics on a WX4150? Potentially looking at one for various projects such as upgrading a iMac and a Precision 7510.
     
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    It's the same GPU as the RX460/560 desktop, only the core frequency is lower by about 10~15% and maybe the memory is slower (techpowerup and notebookchec have different frequency for this)

    edit : and if it's like on desktop you could flash a new bios to unlock the card to 1024sp
     
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    I'm not sure if you wanna add my experience with the WX4150 on Zbook 15 G2 to the list, but maybe under failed due to no fan control:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/l17822-001-wx4150-in-zbook-15-g2.833550/

    It works, sure, but I'd say it isn't a successful upgrade because of the fan control being nonexistent. I wonder if it's due to the fact it's not using the VBIOS stored on the motherboard, and maybe it thinks its not there and thus speeds the fan up or it's something else.

    I might venture into the M1200M (something I could try... and risk it) or M2000M and be done with it.
     
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    Does anyone know the upgrade path of a M18X R1? I have a 8950M in it currently but it doesn't POST, going to try and put the iGPU only mode on it
     
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    R1 has similar upgrade path to M17x R2 and R3, it supposedly can go up to GTX 8xx cards.
    Firepro M6100 should work on it, and max Radeon card supported is 8970M.
     
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    Then maybe I have a dead card, I'll try and force iGPU but finding a unlocked BIOS would be nice
     
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    Try it ona different platform, if you have one at hand, it should work right on basically anything. I've been using 8950 as my benchmark card to see if the machine runs at all, since it is compatible with anything. As for the unlocked vBIOS, well, someone may have it, gotta ask around.
     
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    Yeah don't have anything on hand aside from it, only got it because someone listed it locally for an insane price ($70 w/o a GPU, but included a 2760QM, 16GB of RAM, and GPU HS/Fan). If not, I'm thinking of buying a (MSI) HD 8970M, as I believe this is the best upgrade atm for the machine, although I've heard a maxwell quadro does work in these sandy machines, and given CFX/SLI are quite literally, dead, I will try that soon if I can find a cheap card.
    I still need to find a unlocked BIOS, but I'm not too pained if I don't find one.
     
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    Maxwell cards gossip has been running around for a while, supposedly IST possible to run something like Quadro M1200 or M2200, but I can't confirm that.
    Well, there is one thing that we are testing right now, and it's a Quadro/Tesla combo. Given the characteristics of that setup it can be tricky to pull, since Alienware machines are not necessarily workstations, but if we're able to pull this off we can have insane computation power for relatively low price - Kepler Quadros are insanely low priced nowadays, and have lifetime support (GTX has about 3-5 years when it comes to drivers, while Quadro/Tesla are literally lifetime supported), desktop m2070 Tesla's in my country are about 40$, and MXM cards can be found for maybe 3 or 4 times that, yet still they are GTX 980 with downclocked core and insane number of CUDA cores. Basically a steal, just need to figure out how to run them ;)
     
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