Successful MXM GPU Upgraded Laptops

Kepler is useless for a daily system imo, lack of drivers really hurt it. Sure Quadro drivers are cool and all, but suck for actual gaming, plus its just a really old and inefficient architecture that'll likely be dropped early 2021 if not 2022. If I was considering something as my daily system, it certainly wouldn't be the M18X, it would be atleast my MBP which runs circles around it, the M18X was just a cheap system to mess around with, and if I get bored, resell easily.

 

Bought a M3000M for $110 shipped, we will see. Worst case, I'll just return it like I did to the M6100.

 

Alright, finally found a unlocked A04 bios, changed some settings around, got the 8950m working, however seems like the M18X's board itself is dying, had massive artifacting on the internal screen but not an external, external ran minecraft and BL:TPS fine so I'm guessing a dying mux chip, which given when iGPU is active not artifacting, seems to be the case

 

That's a bummer.
As for the Quadro Drivers, I wouldn't dismiss them . Sure, they have about 10% drop in performance when compared to GTX equivalent, but a Tesla partner can be a Maxwell card (they are also cheap now) and may be an absolute monster

 

Got the 8950M fully operational after finding a unlocked BIOS and tweaking some settings.

As for a monster, if you call it's ass getting handed to it by a rx 460, you and I have very different definitions of the word.

 

Well. The thing is I can't get an AMD RX460 in my MXM slot, and a Tesla and Quadro I do. As for the ass being handed to one - Rx 460 eats dust off of M4000M not even supported by a Tesla. It's 50% faster out if the box. Also this is an experiment to find out how they behave and how to turn an old laptop into contemporary machine without bottomless pockets. That is at least my motivation for the project.

 

Ok, but if I was building a machine with ANY practicality in mind, it wouldn't be building up a 8 year old gaming laptop out with a quadro or firepro lmao. This M18X is just a fun project because it was stupidly cheap and I'm only out $100 so far with the 8950M included, I could literally kill the machine and profit by still selling the display assembly on ebay.

 

780m SLI, 880m SLI are officially supported. 980M SLI BIOS was made but never released to public.

I think 8970M CF might also work. You really want an R2 if you want current gen performance.

 

I installed an HP Nvidia Quadro M2000M into a Zbook 15 G2. The requirement for me was to flash the HP VBIOS (the one that is 176kB) from TechPowerup as it didn't come with one (assuming they don't due to the VBIOS on the Zbook G3, which might not be even true). I am also able to use DP just fine. Switchable graphics is working (provided you keep switchable graphics on) and must be on because otherwise you can only get external output. The inf mod was required. The VBIOS version is picking up correctly in the BIOS and now it works in Windows. On Ubuntu/Mint/Pop OS, this isn't required after a VBIOS flash:



It's nice to have 4GB VRAM now. And native fan control!

 

Completely missing the point of anything I've said

 

Why do you always act like a dick?

 

I think you'd be surprised how far these 8 year old computers have come.

@Mr. Fox @Johnksss @Raidriar @Rengsey R. H. Jr. are some I know that would appreciate @Baddemichl work. NVMe SSD support and RTX 5000 in a 8 year old laptop LOL

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22933088

Spoiler

 

He's done some incredible work with the M18x R2. Pascal/Turing high tier MXM cards are still way too expensive for me to test out in my M18x R2. While SNB/IVB can still be useful in 2020, they are starting to show their age even with ridiculous overclocks. Given how power hungry Ampere is, I doubt we will see anything remotely resembling a MXM 3.0B card. Quadro P5200 was the last high powered card to keep within that form factor.

 

We might see something else in the future.

P4000 is a good card right now for $200. I just bought one and had some ebay bucks so cost me less than $200. Will be adding it to my M18xR2 and getting rid of 780M SLI.

Also waiting for my NVMe MXM adapter to ship.

 

What adapter is that? Where are you getting it from? What speed to you expect to get ? thanks bro!

I saw this:
https://twitter.com/BufferMod/status/1243023941125337088
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6323300704
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6653166932?pid=131881304258&cid=#131881304258

Last time I read something about that here on NBR, these were the links:
https://www.engtb.com/item/607393772035.html
https://shop.tbfocus.com/item.php?id=607393772035#4268652445304

there is this one too :
https://shop.tbfocus.com/item.php?id=620450952708#4557895378341

 

Full speed.

Only like five of us have the adapters. They were special order and idk if any more will be made.

 

I ordered both this :
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=607393772035&ft=t&toSite=main

and this :
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...6XVa1&id=620450952708&ns=1&abbucket=16#detail

will let you guys know if the both work

 

Quadro P4000 working in M18xR2: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/52490709?

Same process as P5000, need to be in SG mode, need to modify driver.

 

Months ago, there was a rumor we'd see Turing GPUs frankensteined onto standard form factor MXM boards this month. I think you were the one who mentioned this if I rmember correctly.

I'd like to see an Ampere card make it to standard MXM form factor, but I won't keep my hopes up. It'd be awesome if I could stick a Turing card in my Ranger, but even if Pascal is the end of the road for this laptop, it was still a good run. I definitely got my money's worth.

 

PNY is apparently still working on it, although 2020 release date is getting shakier by the minute. I'm not loosing my hope though.

 

there are some rtx mxm on taboe chinese site.
rtx 2060, rtx 2060S and rtx 2070

 

We still might. PNY delayed their RTX 5000 MXM 3.0b card to Q1 2021. So we won't see 2080S on RTX 5000 boards til then. In the meantime, there's also possibility of Ampere as well, but we will need to wait.

 

Without any given prices unfortunately...

 

exactly i guess that they are more for industrial stuff than consumer selling.
but after those, maybe someone else chinese vendors will product them. the weirdo thing it's that they are with full desktop cores and frequencies, also high tdp, the most suitable should be rtx 2060 it's mentioned as 139W

 

so you are saying that maybe some chinese will use the pcb of those to make geforce RTX ones?

 

Yes, same thing as the current GTX 1070 mxm 3.0b cards that are using P5000 pcb with 1070 die.

 

Let’s hope so then

 

It's good to see industrial stuff still relies on standard form factor MXM cards. That means we could still get upgrades.

This is quite the ride.

 

Hope the Chinese won’t make the same mess like GTX 1070, using less VRMs , as they burned like fireworks...

 

Hopefully they learn their lesson and don't do that again. Otherwise, people are gonna stop buying their products.

 

They never learn their lessons, but this is another topic.....

 

Just it was cheaper put that chip on that pcb, btw that pcb was made for quadro ones that are at ~ 80w
Gtx 1060 works fine due to lower tdp

 

Actually the PCB was designed for Quadro P5000, means it could hold up to 115W, but those 1070 dies pulled in certain tasks more than 135-140W , and there is where the VRMs starts showing their weakness , caused by reduced quantity...

 

How can they pull till 140w if tdp it’s locked at 115/125 in certain vbios?
For example I have an gtx 1060 with black pcb with 88w tdp and when it reaches above 85 W it goes down

 

That's the big question...
My current vbios is locked at 125W and after FS test I see in HWinfo max GPU Power - 140W.

 

Yes but that’s maybe max peak tdp that longs one second after go down, should monitoring it by msi afterburner overlay in screen enabling gpu power. On pascal laptop tdp limit its very restrictive , the only way to get max stable performance it’s to get an high core frequency on low voltage step that doesn’t reach the limit tdp but some games even at 99% gpu stays down and others one at same percentage gpu usage uses more power, reaching the limit. Anyways what I mean it’s locking one frequency

 

Hi guys! I thank you all for your efforts. very helpful guide indeed .
i have a question and a noob one at that >_<. i have a MSI gt75 8rg with gtx 1080 mxm , could i upgrade that to rtx 2080 super mxm or rtx 2080 mxm ? anyone knows where and how to get a compatible part if so ? and another question do you expect that the 3000 new nvidia series be compatible with any old laptops ?

 

There is none rtx 2080 in mxm factor. Just clevo ones but they are in weirdo mxm size. Talking about rtx 3xxx still isnt available in any laptop.

 

Most likely the only RTX 3000 series MXM modules will be the Clevo form factor ones. MSI started soldering GPUs to their DTRs with the RTX 2000 series GPUs. That was an extremely stupid move.

Unfortunately most vendors and manufacturers have turned stupid.

As for upgrading your laptop, I don't think the jump from a 1080 to a 2080 is worth it. However the jump from a 1080 to a 3080 is. We'll have to see what form factors the RTX 3000 series MXM modules come in.

 

I don't understand where is the problem - GTX980M with its laughable VRM consist of 3x CSD87350 (40 amps power MOSFET blocks) was able to sustain 170W load (until VRM overheated and killed core, but this knowledge comes too late). So I think that it's not a problem with semiconductors, but with cheapest ceramic capacitors and poor cooling. Here's my topic about GTX1070 from MSI - much bigger VRM, same heat problem: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/what-thermopad-for-vrm-overheating-msi-1070-p870dm.830562/

 

Usually for 980M the top left one is dying.

 

Hi there ! I just could use a rx 480 mxm from zrt into a gt60 from MSI (Thus, a Medion Erazer x7817, but it's the same model with different brand).
I'll link the thread I created speaking about it, I don't know if the format is correct for your list.
If you need more information, arrange my posts there, just let me know
The link --> http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/help-needed-msi-gt60-with-rx480.834616/

 

Again, a non-MXM discussion, but I thought it'd be nice to detail the performance improvement from my stock GPU (Quadro P3200 @ 67 W) to the GPU I have now (Quadro RTX 5000 @ 90 W); link here. The CPU drop is mainly due to thermal paste issues.

 

HP version?

 

Dell Precision actually.

 

Good morning all,
I went through the forum before writing this missive
I own an HP ZBOOK 15 G3 with a Quadro M2000 MXM 3.0A.
I make many films in 4k and it lags...

Is it possible to upgrade to Quadro T1000 or T2000 MXM 3.1A?
Thanks to everyone who can help me

 

Anyone seen the 2080S in the Zotac EN072080S?

 

Unfortunately no. I've been wanting to have a look at the internals, but have not been able to find any images of the internals on the newest Zotac gaming mini PCs. No teardown videos either unless I've been missing some search terms.

Let me guess, it's a standard sized MXM module or it's the extended tall variant.

 

Wanting to see a teardown. any link ?

 

Sorry, I wish...but only heard the whispers in the woods during a cold night out...❄