The "Undervolting" Guide

Hi, I'm having a tad of an issue following this guide. I just installed RmClock and the guide says to click on the "advanced cpu settings" tab, but for me there isn't one.

I really need to get this thing undervolted (sig laptop). I got 89c on it from Orthos and that really scares me.

 

Thx for using thumbnails, but the "About..." page doesn't tell us much. Also, what OS system ?

 

system specs are in my sig and I'm using windows 7 home premium.

 

never mind

 

I still don't know if you have x32 or 64 bit. If it's 64, you need to download the signed driver (link in the manual) and over-write the stock driver. Then you need to deal with User Account Control as explained many times in this thread. Do a search for "UAC".

 

The best tool for RM-72 is K10Stat.. try to undervolt with it.
Good luck!

 

oops. the one thing I forget to mention >.< it's 64bit

 

Still, a lot of people told me they couldn't undervolt RM Series with rmclock,
that's where k10stat come in handy..
please do inform us whether you can or not undervolt yours with rmclock..

cheers!

 

OK, guys. I'll take this one. Looks easy.

 

nope. I cannot undervolt with Rmclock...sigh...gotta go with k10stat then

 

LOLOLOL

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question about K10stat:

a guide says that the FID is the multiplier of the cpu. it's on 12 by default. Do I have to worry about any numbers above it?

 

Put FID 13 on your P0, because your top frequency should be 2100,
you can leave p1 and p2's FID by default..

you can read this as reference
*credit to aspiregemstone.blogspot.com

 

that is actually the guide I had open, lol

So what I should do from 1-13 is change P0 and don't touch P1 and P2?

 

no, I meant change P0 to FID 13,
then undervolt all P0,P1,P2

you can see the voltage in link above as reference since it's also a RM-72 .

 

oh! I get it now. I was looking at it like this

mult13 - P0
P1
P2

mult12 - P0
P1
P2

mult11 - P0
P1
P2

instead of P0 being the highest multiplier P1 being the middle and P2 being the lower

 

yeah this is it LOL.. I kinda lost at words

 

3 minutes in after starting Orthos after dropping voltage to 1.0125, looking cooler already

edit:
before- max temp at 10min. - 89c

after- 79c


booyah!

 

RMClock doesn't seem to like to play nice with my computer. I'e been using CrystalCPUID before this, but for some reason when my CPU ramps up I'll either hit my undervolt of 1.188v or the "stock" voltge of 1.3v. So off to RMClock.

Anyway, I did the half-multiplier workaround for RMClock and my CPU was able to run at 11.5x.

Anyway, back with Crystal I was able to run the OCCT Linpack test (basically Intel Burn Test) for twenty minutes without issue. However, when I do the Linpack test (using the same multiplier and voltages as Crystal) I'll get sporadic BSODs. Might be a few minutes into the stress tests, might be near the end... or might be even while I'm just surfing the internet.

Anyway, this is running on Win7 64-bit, and the settings I use for both Crystal and RMClock are

11.5x @ 1.118
9.0x @ 1.125
6.0x @ 0.900


Yet Crystal is stable while RMClock is not. Any ideas?

EDIT: It seems if I run a game or do a stress test like Orthos or OCCT, the voltage at 11.5x will be 1.118v. However, when installing something it'll be 11.5x @ 1.300v.

 

I was just wondering, when undervolting using K10stat the guide here says with RMclock some have been able to go down by .250v, can I still probably do that?

 

There's no one correct answer. Depends on chip and mobo. You get what you get.

 

Hi Forge, what method are you using to get half-multiplier?
is it edit registry one, or check the IDA one?
and just wondering, when stressing your cpu, do you get spikes in rmclock's monitoring tab on core clock and FID ?

 

I used the registry workaround.

I didn't monitor the system. Let me try now.

 

The reason I asked is I got some spikes when using the registry edit..
since then I've been using "check the IDA FID, but uncheck the Engange IDA in Advanced CPU Setting"
no more spikes after that.

I don't know if this would help your stability problem,
but it's good not to have the FID jumping to IDA on random times..

 

I'll try that. I also misspoke. I just did the IDA check-off. I can't even find the Rightmark directory in my registry, haha.

I'll see if that works.


EDIT: Seems to pass through 15 minutes of OCCT with your suggestion. I'll try a real world test ( Left 4 Dead, baby!)

EDIT2: Spoke too soon. Three minutes after opening up Steam I BSODed. Maybe my other voltages are too low...

EDIT3: Nope. Still BSODing. Guess I'm sticking with Crystal. I have no idea why RMClock is unstable for me. It causes blue screen while I'm surfing the internet.

 

That's too bad.. I don't know what's wrong with rmclock in your machine..
have you considered CPUGenie?

 

I hear it's quite good, but I'd rather not pay.

Stable voltages shouldn't change depending on the program you use, right? If I'm stable with 1.118 with Crystal I should be fine with 1.118 with RMClock, yes?

 

yeah it should be like that..
that's why I think it's your last half-multiplier that causes this problem in rmclock.

 

The problem with that though is that I'm sometimes perfectly stable--no BSOD--for fifteen minutes of hard stress at those settings. Yet I'll randomly BSOD at other times. If it was just that I'd BSOD right off the bat, right?

Could it be a problem with it switching from, say, 11.5x to 9.0x? Is there instability when switching multipliers?

I also noticed one thing, too. Once, when stress testing it and monitoring with CPU-Z, I saw the multiplier actually go to 12.0. Maybe that's the problem? If it is, how would I fix it?

 

hmm,, that's what I meant with spikes in rmclock monitoring, the multiplier will randomly jumps to IDA .. in my case 13x on T9300
but mine's fixed by unchecking the "Engange IDA" in advanced setting

edit: here's my setting for reference:

note:
- I check IDA in profile, but uncheck the Engage IDA in advanced setting
- I don't use superLFM now, since I'm cool without it

 

Unusual BSODs is a common problem with laptops with high-end graphics. None of the stress programs that are commonly used work-out the GPU and CPU at the same time. So, a VID that works fine with Orthos suddenly pukes out when editing videos or gaming.

I would test your undervolting with the most overall stressful video application that you routinely use your rig for and leave the marathon Orthos sessions for the OCD types.

I've heard of GPU under and over volting programs. I guess that I'd undervolt a GPU first, since they eat way more power, and then leave the CPU just a tad bit higher than rock-bottom.

Here's a graphics card stress test: http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/

 

How long did you stress / stability test for and what method did you use?

 

I'll try the OCCT tests, both the graphics tests and the PSU test.

 

OCCT has the "combo" test that I've been looking for. It's called the Power Supply Test and says that it simultaneously runs GPU stressing combined with a LinPack CPU workout.

Seems to do what it says, although Americans would call it the Super Ulimate Extreme Combo Terminator Mobo Destructor Test. Shows that Russians still don't understand our infomercial mentality

 

While you're at it, uncheck all the boxes except 4 and 8.

1. There's no energy savings by going to a lower clock speed runnng the same voltage.

2. Intermediate steps are never used in direct multi-step transitions.

2. Checking the IDA FID and then unchecking it in Adv. CPU gives you your top half-multiplier.

 

Interestingly enough, with my Crystal undervolt it passes through just fine. It's still RMClock that keeps giving my trouble.

 

I'm assuming that you have W7 and are finding RMC to be less stable than in the good ol' XP days. Me too. Try unchecking every selection all 3 panels of Adv. CPU except TM1 and Sync TM1. It helped me.

Also, don't integrate power plans. RMC does voltages only, W7 does the rest.

 

Nah,, I still prefered to check all FIDs provided by the cpu.
When I need full power though, I always use Max performance to my top FID
but Thanks for the advice

edit: on second thought, I'm gonna try to put my system to idles @ 2GHz
and see how's it going

Actually they do. Although not all FIDs, but middle FIDs are used too. Maybe for short time, but they do.

That's what I was saying this whole time

 

ok, i've been using rmclock since june of 2008 running vista and everything has been perfect. Today I upgraded to windows 7, and now the lowest voltage I can get is 1.000v even though I have it set to .950v. With vista I had superlfm running and I could hit 600mhz at .950v no problem when I was idling, now with the exact same preferences in windows 7, the lowest I can 1.2ghz at 1.000v!

if it helps, I have a t8300. thanks

 

I can't resist

Intel says Direct Multistep means Direct Multistep. Like A to D without touching B or C

I'm the guy who figured out and posted the IDA - Half Multiplier trick on this thread a long, long time ago.

 

LOL.. I haven't checked all hundreds of pages
ok you're the master ..hmm where's the bow icon

 

are you sure windows' power management doesn't interfere your rmclock setting?

 

Hey, that's a swell bow icon. I think I'm going to require it in all replies to me in 2010

 

I intended to do proper bow icon but can't find any decent one

 

I never even knew about undervolting--or general computer optimization/maintanence until I had my Vista system.

Oh well. I'll stick with Crystal for now. I'll trade a more powerful user interface for stability.

 

Alright,

I FINALLY received my Win 7 upgrade kit from Arvato (took a month all included).

So I had my Undervolting taken care of by K10STAT (AMD "griffin" CPU application).

It was running at startup (task scheduler) using Weinter's guide in Vista x64.
Now, I'm trying to reproduce the same effect and create the same task in Win7.

The task scheduler doesn't seems really different from Vista.
Still it doesn't work, even tho I type in the exact same commands. Any ideas?

 

If it still doesn't work after turning off (temp.) UAC, you may need to reinstall K10. I'm assuming K10 is supposed to W7 savvy

 

Observe my avatar, my son, and then dig much deeper

 

ROTFLMAO

 

why i didn't have the power saving, maximal performance and performance on demand sub-profile in my RightMark CPU clock utility? please help me~~ my hp pavilion tx2500 always keep on crashes due to the overheating~~