The Mighty Clevo P870DM-G "Phoenix" Gets an 8700K and GTX 1080 Upgrade

I need to extract the bios find the cpu code.bin and add the microcode into that. Does the msi have a uefi bios or not? I'm sure it doesn't but just in case.

 

You can probably get Temps down my adding more fins to heat exchanger but that will be much more labor intensive than adding pipes

 

It turns out the mod can be done but the heatsink can't handle it unless the IHS is taken off and the heatsink is applied DIRECTLY to the die with metal paste, then there is a chance that the temps stay at a reasonable level even when overclocking.
This laptop fits my criteria too, I wish there was a 17'' version though.

 

P870DM3?

 

Slightly too bulky for my liking, plus the msi (a GT62VR without the BGA) doesn't look like a full blown gaming laptop. I like it's kinda formal design layout. Plus I have a feeling MSI will continue to make mxm cards for this laptop. Not saying they will be regular mxm cards, of course not. But I have a hunch this laptop will be future proof.

Edit: And since the mxm slot can handle upto 180w on burst power the future isn't looking too dark for this laptop anyway.

 

Follow win-raid's step , modify to BIOS: add microcode , do pcie patch and switch ME'sku to z370, it can work with cfl i5 up to 8600k . but cfl i7 with ht cannot boot.
or port bios from g25(z370),can boot cfl i7 with ht , but need fix some acpi parts. i haven't done this ,now have usb and graphic issue that i can't fix,that's too difficult for me.

 

F7 tornado is coming up, which is a 17 inch version of the F5. prob end of this year or early next year.

 

I have read the fourm but how did you manage to boot with coffee lake cpu on integrated? This laptop doesn't support that. Will the laptop boot up with the modified bios without pci patch on mxm graphics card?

 

I dont know. I just done BIOS mod and flash to device. Then change CPU and got all things work normally.

 

You are very lucky that worked, I will now do bios mod, I will replace kabylake microcode with coffee lake as I have a skylake processor atm

 

@Mr. Fox some news around saida the Z370 chipset will support probably the newt gen intel cpus *9th gen* then maybe the phoenix needs a new brain LOL

 

BGA clocks for people who is interested in how crippled it is ([email protected] all 6 cores).

From Notebookcheck.net (i7-8750H)


3.9GHz on all 6 cores (equal i7-8750H burst clocks - first round in Cinebench R15).


I cripple the clocks further.... 38x all 6 cores and still under 45w TDP. No reason for the i7-8750H BGA have to score lackluster within it's TDP in Cinebench R15 benchmarks. I could probably shave of +5w Cpu Package power with proper voltage tveaking for the fixed clocks. But why the need for cripple the clocks and scores below it's TDP ?

 

@dsanke my laptop is bricked fully with the unsuccessful bios flash. The laptop is dead. I have ordered a skypro spi flasher with the 1.8v adapter which cost me a total of £50 with the pamona clip!

If it's not too much to ask please can you link me your bios mod, I have been trying this for weeks and have managed to screw it up completely.




Edit: just learned my gtx 1070 mxm is broken too, what a wonderful day lol.

 

What a shame, I hope you can fix it easily enough

 

The system bios chip is 3.3v, not 1.8v. Don't use the adapter on that.
The Vbios chip is 1.8v.

Unless you already have a non chinese (decent) clip, you also need these for your Skypro for much easier flashing:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2WWHQ25ENKVJ1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHH65T4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3NA65ZFC06KVD

 

Thank you for clarifying that, I will not use the 1.8v adapter.

I already have the clip mentioned in the second link, I will purchase the cables in the first link though. Thanks for the info.

 

The cables are just for hooking up the Pomona clip (you see the male pins on the Pomona clip) into the holes on either the Skypro or the 1.8v adapter. Just remember to mount them counter-clickwise with pin 1 starting at top left on the skypro (or 1.8v adapter).

I actually used an SOIC8 adapter board (NOT to be confused with the 1.8v adapter!!) because it's annoying to have to make sure each wire is plugged in in order each time you switch from NOT using the 1.8v adapter to using it. So I just plugged the Pomona clip to the SOIC8 adapter board, using "female to female" cables from the kit. That way if I wanted to use the 1.8v adapter, It's simple easy plug and play since the SOIC8 adapter board has its pins pre-aligned.

The problem is, some "Prebuilt" clips have the soic8 adapter board preassembled (but not soldered, thank god) to the clip cable assembly directly, so its not always easy to find an soic8 adapter board by itself (the Skypro "comes" with the board---but---requires you to actually manually solder it) but as long as its on a socket and can be simply removed, you can use that.

you don't NEED the SOIC8 board--it's just for easy convenience.

 

@Mr. Fox @Papusan What thermal application methods are you using for your 870DM's? I'm sure between the two of you you have reapplied TIMs numerous times over the years. What method have you found works best?

I've used pea, X and manual spread so far.

I have a Silver Shining IHS coming in today (with the extra 1mm for a better pairing) to replace the standard intel IHS I delidded last week as a spread test (with the tons of MX-4 I have from yesteryear) showed a tighter fit wouldn't hurt.

As always I'm trying to find the optimal performance:quiet ratio.

 

I use the spread method now. Seems to get the most even application for me with less waste.

 

I mostly use Liquid metal.
X-cross or the manuel spread method of paste really doesn't matter for the end results. But don't use the pea method. See also my re-post of my REPASTE AND LAPPING OF BITSPOWER LID

 

(back when I used to use paste) I always made sure the middle had a tiny dollop extra paste and was the highest point so that when the HS came down it would contact there first and push away from the centre, I never ever saw any air bubbles in any application I ever did that way

 

Does anyone have the actual working coffee lake bios for the P870dm-g?

I only have a 8700k and 8600k to use as I have sold the 6700k. As of now Im getting no sound and random shutdowns...

 

Work well with @Prema developing (test Bios - firmware) and mod for us who do the science and showing it to others... The well known “Intel’s Scam”.

 

I can 100% use my laptop as a tester no problem. Spi flasher can fix any corrupted or non functioning bios anyway.

 

Then re-flash same or a new firmware from your "firmware"sources if you still have problems. Or check your hardware mod.

 

i have it too. but not prema one.

 

Anyone upgrading to coffee lake who has 2133mhz will need to change it immediately, for some reason this laptop with 2133mhz ram and a coffee lake chip seems to bsod or not even turn on.

I have bought a single 16gb ddr4 ram stick beforehand rated for 2400mhz and that works flawlessly. I advise you don't go below 2400mhz.

This is the ram I'm using currently:


This is the 'bad' ram which seems to work fine with a 6700k:

 

Precision 7710 can be upgraded to 8950HK? Try HWINFO Memory and you should see hwinfo reports 1300-1400MHz on RAM freq. My stock dell Memory failed( SKHynix) and I am eying Crucial's 2400MHz on 6700HQ.
You can check HWINFO > Memory for more info. Actually it reports, I can take 1300MHz on 6700HQ. I think the info is precise since I tried querying older ivybridge and broadwell and it reported 800MHz(aka 1600MHz on ddr3)

 

@dsanke thank you again bro, this coffee lake bios is amazing everything works.
I think I will have better temps too as the heatsink on this clevo is way superior to the eurocom tornado f5.

 

Hello @dsanke
I have also a p800dm-g and a i7 8700. i flash the coffee lake bios but Im also getting no sound and random shutdowns...
Can you please send me your bios. I have a CH341a flasher.

 

@Papusan @dsanke seems like the llc and vrms on the clevo motherboards are vastly superior to the eurocom tornado f5 ones, I would get a blue screen at 4.8GHz with my 8600k in the tornado f5 even with a '+' offset voltage, I can now reach 4.9GHz without even adjusting the voltage or offset on the clevo.
Plus the temperatures are way more reasonable at this stage max temp 89c with fan profile set to overclock. I might just keep the i5 as it can offer upto i7 performance.

 

i5 8600k = i7 7700k clock to clock in benchmarks

 

Clock for clock, 8600K is faster.

 

Hello everyone!

Has anyone upgraded/tested P751DM2-G model with 8700k?
Currently installed GTX1080 and have acceptable temperatures with stock heatsink and paperclip mod (which will be replaced with something more decent).

 

LLC control maybe, vrm I think is the same..







And Maybe you got a lemon cpu as mine ^_^

 

I am having a bit of an issue, when gaming my i5 processor clock speed dips to 2.5GHz exactly and current limit throttling shows up. When the gpu is inactive it runs fine on its full 4.7GHz clock speed, not throttling whatsoever.

Will I need to install throttlestop and untick BD PROCHOT? If so I will have to uninstall xtu as they clash together, or is there an option in the bios @dsanke do you know anything about this?

It doesn't cause any stuttering or lagging due to the processor being pretty powerful even at a lower clock speed but it's worrying that it clocks so low.

As of now my clevo has a 200w gtx 980 in it and yes I'm using the 330w power supply.

 

@Mr. Fox hmmmm do you think this would work with the extra wide MSI 1080 that has extra 8pin power? It seems to physically fit otherwise

 

I am not sure, but I have a hunch it will not without a @Prema BIOS to add support for the 1080 GPU. Might have a black screen without it. Only way to know for sure would be to try it and find out what kind of hurdles will be encountered along the way. How is the GPU die positioned? Will you also need an MSI heat sink to disassemble to use its heat plate, or will a 980 heat sink fit? Also, not sure if MSI did something with reserved MXM pins that requires soldering jumper wires for extra power delivery through the MXM slot like the Clevo 1080. Could be a lot involved with it in terms of trial and error without having more information.

 

Yes, you will have to use ThrottleStop and you will need to play around with power limits. There is some sort of throttle cancer code in the Clevo BIOS and without a @Prema BIOS with all of those Clevo throttle feces demons exorcised you are going to have throttling issues to save power at the expense of performance. Using ThrottleStop is you only hope of a remedy for that nonsense.

 

It seems to be normal MXM format except for a very wide PCB, close in Size to a 200W 980DT. Core is positioned normally. I believe it is sold as for the GT72VR but let me check again, and post the link

EDIT: After finding the link, it appear to be closer in size to the 1070 MXM, but with the wing fully extended

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...DlkAa&id=558220154954&ns=1&abbucket=20#detail

 

It might work. If it fits in the chassis and the 200W 980 heat sink would fit it, that would be a really nice head nice start. Still not sure if you would have a black screen without a @Prema BIOS mod to add support for the GPU hardware ID.

 

Do you perhaps happen to have a Prema Bios or know where I can get one *crosses fingers*

Also, the 100W 980m heatsink might work without modding, but I would probably go for the 980DT heatsink anyways so no throttling would occur. I might not even go for this in general and just get 1070's in SLI

 

doing a little eyeballing, the 100W heatsinks might fit, but the core looks to be positioned slightly off center, and the 1080MXM is just wide enough for the RAM chips not to be fully covered, so a 980DT heatsink would be more reasonable

1080 MXM
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...DlkAa&id=558220154954&ns=1&abbucket=20#detail

P870DM-G Pics
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...x-980m-8gb-all-parts-included-for-sli.815483/

980DT heatsink
https://www.ebay.com/itm/for-Clevo-...cat=0&_nkw=clevo+980+heatsink&_from=R40&rt=nc

 

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...936&pvid=e164cc70-34f7-499b-a66b-b87d1ba16bab

Found this as well, requires heatsink reversal for GPU core but otherwise looks good

 

I would just go with the 1070s in sli, the 1070 with sli connector I bought for an insane price didn't need a tdp mod and overclocked on both core and memory at 200mhz, it can go up to 400mhz for the memory! This destroys my other gtx 1070 with a 150w tdp mod in benchmarks and overclocked!

Bare in mind look for gtx 1070/1080 mxm with Samsung memory NOT Micron as you will get higher overclocks. As of now my single gtx 1070 is literally performing as quickly as a 1080 in everything. Whilst keeping cool at 65c on max load thanks to the modded 980dt heatsink.

 

The only place to get a @Prema BIOS is from Prema, or buy a system from a PremaMod partner. Sharing the firmware mods is against the terms of use and people doing it in violation of that agreement (and some stealing it, taking credit and reselling it) is why it is no longer widely available as it used to me. So, yes, I have one but it is for my use only.

 

So maybe I’m searching as inaccurately as a Stormtrooper is at shooting any Rebel hero, but I can’t quite seem to find a guide in this thread for modding a stock DM-G to equip a 8700K...

Do you need to be running a Prema BIOS in order to fit the necessary BIOS upgrades to make this possible? Are such mods publicly available right now? And will you need to modify any SMD components on the mobo for preventing overheating?

 

It's basically as simple as a Bios mod and a few pieces of tape over the CPU

 

No other modding involved! Cool!

Where and/or how can a BIOS mod tutorial, or at least short instructions be found?

Edit: found