The Mighty Clevo P870DM-G "Phoenix" Gets an 8700K and GTX 1080 Upgrade

86.04.2A.00.xx are the oldest and where released for P870DM3
(they should not be sold with KM1 model)
86.04.56.00.xx are the ones released with the P870KM1 and are backwards compatible with DM3
86.04.80.00.xx are the ones released with P870TM1 and are backwards compatible with all older models

Here is the latest g-sync version for your GPU! ENJOY!

 

vBIOS info:


Flashing process:


Result, as seen in (stock) BIOS:


Time to do some testing now. Thank you sir!

 

@artpra I have an even newer Clevo 1080 G-Sync vBIOS you can try.



https://www.sendspace.com/file/9o5053

 

That's not 'newer'. It's just the version adjusted for the P7xxTM (non-SLI) model.

 

I dodged a bullet here (black screen probably) but thanks anyway @yrekabakery

 

Wait, what ? I can plug a 2080 gsync in my P775dm3-g ( with your modded bios, i remember you did it yourself using teamviewer ) and that's it, it'll work ?

 

Stock very near 2105cb

Edit. Fixed. Stock above 2105cb





https://hwbot.org/submission/4164109_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i9_9900k_2182_cb?recalculate=true

https://hwbot.org/submission/416410...5_core_i9_9900k_23.64_points?recalculate=true

 

I'm speechless.

 

That's poopoosan cpu magic for ya imagine what he could do with proper RAM!

 

I'm glad to be back to the p870 series @Papusan



I've got a 1080 ti in my laptop lol, with these crazy benchmark scores I'm getting

 

Hi i want to try this method.but i dont understant power cable diagram.i want to teach .8 color cable 4 positive 4 negative (black brown red orange pozitive yellow green purple gray negative) or I just need to use black and red other colors unneeded?
Thank you

 

True?

 

Yes, connect the 4 red wires shown in the left image to the 4 wires marked positive in the image to the right. Connect the 4 black wires from the image on the left to the 4 wires marked negative in the image to the right. The color coding Clevo selected for the 1080 power connector shown in the image to the right makes no sense at all and could be misleading based on color coding. They did not need multi-colored wires, only red and black like the older wiring, and having a black wire carry power is pretty retarded. The older 4-pin connectors made perfect sense since red was positive and black was negative (as expected). They do not need to be connected in any special order as long as you connect postive to positive and negative to negative.

 

@Papusan getting decent scores now due to @TheDantee gpu which shipped quite quickly (thanks for that btw) SLI works and G-sync works, I can play the rage 2 without lag now lol

Yeah temps are toasty but look at that tdp

 

Thats about 150w more than I could hope for....though I could probably cool it with a little creativity.

 

Should I try 300w on both gpu's just for fun I hope the mosfets can last that long lol

 

Bumped up my 2133Mhz ram to 2800MHz and with some changed timings.


2110cb in CBR-15 with stock 9900K is quite ok for an 4 years old notebook vs. todays new and shiny.


Edit. One more with Stock clocks

As a comparison, then look at the Cinebench R15 scores from 9900K in the Alienware Area-51m

Spoiler: World's Fastest and most upradeable laptop, according to Alienware's top duo Frank Azor and Umar

 

So just did a 3dmark time spy benchmark, results are actually higher than I expected



Compared to @Prema benchmark


Please tell me that's with the stock 150w vbios? I was expecting the rtx 2080 to mop the floor with the gtx 1080 sli

 

Single RTX 2080 has no chance against 1080 SLI:

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/6414560/spy/7118655

Apart from Ray Tracing, where 1080 SLI can't even beat a single 2060:


https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/101265/pr/79888

 

But, what is really SAD is that the Time Spy score gave minimal credit for the 122.5% superior CPU performance. It literally raped the i5-8600K and it had a very modest effect on the "overall" score. Seems we need to stop calling it an "overall" score since that doesn't appear to be accurate with Time Spy, Port Royal or Fire Strike. It sort of begs the question of why they even bother to measure the CPU performance on some of these tests. Makes sense that they don't bother to measure it on some of them (Port Royal, for example).

 

To be fair I was planning on dropping in a 9900k when I get an RTX 2080 with the T shaped heatsink and put in the tm1 cpu heatsink because as of now a 9900k will throttle badly no matter how much it's undervolted. The 8600k stays in the high 80's atm when gaming and benchmarking. The CPU heatsink is trash.

 

From the looks of the algorithm, it's not going to do a lot for that benchmark. But, it certainly will for those that give proper credit for having a healthier and more potent CPU.

 

TS is a pure GPU bench unless the CPU bottlenecks the GPU.
We can literally disable HT and half on the cores and get almost identical overall score.
FS is an actual (flaky) combined score bench.

What I really like from the new ones is Night Raid...it's the most rewarding when Tuning core, vRAM and CPU.

 

@Mr. Fox @Prema whats the max safe wattage for a clevo GTX 1080? 300W?

 

I have seen so many Clevo 1080 with burned MOSFETs due to user going overboard that I would say maybe more in the 220-250W region.

I think @Johnksss has pulled some 350W+, but that was under full blown AC.

 

Isn't MSI the OEM for the Clevo cards? aka the cards are made in MSI's factories per Clevo's design requirements?
If the mosfets are identical on the MSI 1080 and Clevo 1080, that would basically prove that.

 

That makes sense as the new msi rtx 2080 and old msi gtx 1080 (big version) mxm have the die in the exact same place as the clevo rtx 2080 and gtx 1080. This means with enough modding/shimming for the vrms you could possibly get an rtx 2080 from an msi laptop working in a clevo counterpart.

Plus the mxm RTX 2080 in the msi gt63 doesn't have the power cable connected and works without it!

This could be a good plug and play experiment for the O.G p870dm-g breathing new life into it AGAIN for those uncomfortable with @Mr. Fox mod for the gtx 1080 which works with the CLEVO rtx 2080 too thanks to @dsanke new RTX bios!

I'm thinking of trying to put one in a gt83 along with a 4k screen mod, maybe 2-3 months down the line...

 

- MXM factory is operated by MSI.
- Power Design (MOSFET) is different.
- Power cable present PIN check is on the mobo (EC), not the GPU side
- Only Clevo cards need Khenglish's MXM port changes
- RTX BIOS support was officially added by Clevo for TM models, (those are just cross-flashes)

 

I have the old one! Any benefit upgrading? DO i need a programmer?

So what is the result of your testing?

 

Nope, we never need a programmer to flash a proper firmware.

 

@Papusan what do you think? Is this 'Papusan' stock or a golden chip at -150mv undervolt on vcore? Bare in mind its being cooled with only 3 heatpipes lol

 

Congrats with new hardware And +rep

One thing for sure this ain’t Papusan Stock Neither is it Papusan’s unoptimized Stock.

Enjoy freedom with socketed hardware!!

And be very happy you didn’t jump on today’s new and shiny http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/bga-venting-thread.798775/page-225#post-10922543

 

Thanks, hmm maybe the new heatsink will improve that as I’m hitting 105c on the cpu, yeah I disabled tjmax in the bios because why not for the benchmark plus I need a heater for my room

 

150- mV is a very high undervolt. Sounds like an excellent chip. Mine can't even go lower than 45-mV on stock clocks.

Did the system reach 105c with such a high undervolt during a CB15 run on stock clocks or was that during longer gaming sessions? That sounds unusually high for a CB15, make sure to use FN 1 full fan profile for benching.

 

Great chip, I have mine at -120mV. Anything above -100mV it's great for 9900K.
But even then cooling at stock clocks is an issue.

 

It's all about finding the perfect balance:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Byr8D38As9f/?igshid=2ve1lhv2ayou

 

I don't know your thermal headroom before you reach 105C inCinebench. But have you tried reduce the undervolt somewhat and see if you can get higher CBR-15 score this way? A too massive undervolt can reduce your max possible bench scores. Worth a try as long you don't run all day near 105C. Give it a shoot bruh. See... Find the "DaMafiaGamer's" stock

Exactly

 

It’s reaches 105c in cinebench, in gaming it reaches around 83 to 88c. Varies from core to core. Cpu package reports 85c for games like rage 2, far cry new dawn, metro exodus...

 

Maybe help the cooling yourself or try with reduced Cashe

 

Yeah, I noticed that when I had a -180mv underclock, the cpu was literally being starved but no BSOD even then. Seems like I get lucky every time with the silicon lottery, first my 4940mx, next my 7920hq and now my 9900k. What could be better...

Bro I want to find your benchmark scores at stock, and that will be possible today as I’m finally putting in the tm1 heatsink. Hopefully all goes to plan, then I’m selling this laptop. I miss the gt83 greatly, that 18.4 screen and the sound quality are simply unbeatable.

 

Cache is at x36 multiplier any lower and I’m getting worse performance. I’d rather have my 9900k burn out then have crap performance

 

Don't go backwards into the future...

Spoiler: You really want similar like this on your desk? I pick it up everyday. And I hate it

The disadvantage of having a dog

 

Looooool, msi are crap but some stuff is decent. Like how they managed to use dynaudio a company that makes amazing custom speakers for cars, mainly VW (like my unreliable golf r, that damn DSG gearbox )
Cooling too is outstanding as well as no performance limitation, I mean like 0 power throttling on my previous Gt83, I was shocked lol, maybe I was lucky who knows.

EDIT: A 8850H is more than enough for me and I know I’ll find a buyer on these forums for my beastly laptop, of course if I don’t drop in an rtx 2080 which is strongly possible...

 

That's what I'm doing too. From three options that we have with KMs:
1. Swap CPU support (back plate) for TM one,
2. Reduce the height of stand offs from original KM CPU support (back plate),
3. Use 5mm copper shim(s),
I'm going with #3 (can't get TM back plate without mobo, asked everywhere and I would like to have stock KM back plate just in case).

 

New heatsink is in, sits flushly, new thread on it coming soon for all you km1 owners!

Now this is @Papusan stock, only reaching 71c in that run, the fan still didn't move from 10%, jesus this heatsink is CRAZY :



A beautiful interior lol, I spent many hours on this mod tbf, cpu bracket was modded by me too, no tm1 bracket :

 

Good job But still not Papusan's Stock

 

Let me adjust my ram timings and close background applications

 

Yeah, shouldn't be much work to let it perform better than World's Fastest and most upgradeable laptop

 

Our laptops would eat that laptop for lunch