The Mighty Clevo P870DM-G "Phoenix" Gets an 8700K and GTX 1080 Upgrade

If you would like to get the Prema BIOS using your own hands, you'll need to use them to contact your Prema Partner ( https://premamod.com/partner/ ) from which you purchased the laptop - http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-bios-thread.416916/page-433#post-10697854 Mr. Fox received his BIOS through his Prema channel.

Othwerise, you most likely won't be able to flash the BIOS.

 

Yes, it should. If I am not mistaken, it was pretty much plug and play other than a little bit of tweaking on the 980 T-shaped heat sink. Brother @thegh0sts is our residence expert on the MSI 1070 upgrade. He is one of the pioneers on that and he has a nice thread around here somewhere showing what he did. Let's hear what he has to say about it so I don't give you any wrong information.

 

Thanks
Project "Why everyone should trash Jokebooks and always buy LGA Notebooks" continue rolling On the way, but it will take some time get it here where I live. People in U.S or EU have it easier. Faster shipping + better prices. Oh'well, but thats life



++ Something more. @Phoenix

 

@Prema did a wonderful job on your boot logo, @Papusan. Looks great.

I can hardly wait for you to get your nice new cherry-picked 8700K.

 

What? Modding the 980DT heatsink for the MSI 1070? If so then yes, the instructions are on techinferno. But it was @Coolane that showed it was possible with their extreme mod, you just need patience and a bit of elbow grease to get the job done. My mod is very basic and should satisfy most power users that undertake this task. The modifications are simple so if you can get the following from either ebay, amazon, or your nearest hardware store like Home Depot:

- a hacksaw
- sandpaper of varying grits that are suitable for soft metal like copper
- 8mm x 8mm heatsinks
- thermal adhesive (I used arctic silver's 2-part thermal adhesive)
- heat proof/resistant spray paint (not necessary but might help with the heat insulation)

https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/11137-p870dm-g-980dt-heatsink-mod-for-msi-1070/&

This is a mock up on how my 980DT heatsink plate look like.



I trimmed a bit of the plate from the left side and put it on the right side to cover the exposed VRM. Coolane didn't do this on their mod as they placed an 8x8mm heatsink directly on the top of the VRM.

Yes, once you make these mods there's no turning back. LOL

The 980M heatsink doesn't require any modding though I don't use it because it only uses one fan to cool and a second fan is working but not cooling anything so I went with the 980DT heatsink so as to not waste the second cooling fan.

Plus the 980M heatsink only has 3 heatpipes compared to the 980DT heatsink's 6 pipes. So, in theory, the more pipes = better cooling overhead.

If you run the stock vBIOS with the stock TDP of 115W then you're OK with the 980M heatsink. But if you want to be able to run with a modded vBIOS with a TDP of between 115W and 200W then modding the 980DT heatsink is the way to go.

 

my boot logo is my forum avatar

 

Is it possible to do a full screen boot logo?

Also, should I buy a CPU heatsink from a DM3?

 

I think this has been discussed already?

If you're going to solder in more heatpipes, yes. (the channel and the flat top suits that). Otherwise, no

 

No as in "don't waste the money" or as in "it's not compatible"?

 

I think its in the basis of unless you mod it there is no gains compared to your current one.

 

Would be interested if the 1170 would work if one was available.

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Want comprimise? Maybe a full upgradeable Slabtop?

 

whoa!!!!!! You just made my head explode!


Looks like this is a conceptual design right now, but it is something I'll definitely keep an eye on. Thx for sharing this.

 

@Prema, @Mr. Fox and @Khenglish remarkable teamwork! Thank you!

 

Thanks.

 

OK, I might get motivated enough this weekend to try my hand at modding the CPU heat sink with the extra new heat pipes I purchased. Maybe. We will see. Sometimes I find it extremely difficult to get motivated enough to start, but then I get into it and am disappointed when it's finished because it was fun doing it.

I am also thinking about using the butchered leftovers (pump/block) from my Thermaltake Riing plus and EVGA Hybrid cooler (120MM radiator) to FrankenKool it for benching.

I think I am going to do something special with my desktop as well. I am thinking about using a small 6-pack sized cooler with a bunch of coiled copper tubing inside of it, filling it with water and freezing it into a solid block of ice. Then connecting it to my loop with quick-connect fittings.

 

I wish you success! With impatience I will wait for the results of your work

 

You'd be amazed how fast the ice melts. When I used to do eGPU I found the GTX 460 heatpipes would cut ice cubes like a knife.

 

I would be looking at using an insulated cooler filled with water and about 10 feet of copper pipe coiled up inside of it and freezing that into a solid block of ice. In the loop I'd be using a non-conductive coolant that does not freeze like water, as I already do in my loop. I do not use water in it. My existing loop would remain in the loop (referring to the desktop, not the DM-G) and the coolant coming off the CPU would be cooled by the 360MM radiator before it re-enters the copper pipes in the solid block of ice. I could be wrong, but I would think that would be effective for at least several hours of benching at below-ambient temperatures. My house is normally 68°-70°F, so it's already not very hot ambient temps. Even at 5.3GHz it takes a helluva torturous CPU benchmark for it to breach 70°C and at 5.4GHz it stays below 75°C in all workload just using the existing loop. The Futuremark benches are usually maxing out in the low 60s at 5.4GHz. If I could get the max temps down to about 40°F (4°C) for several hours worth of benching, that would work great.

I would not use that backyard ice block thing on the DM-G with the FrankenKool mod using my butchered AIO parts until the bare-die cooling block is available for purchase. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/341758082/ncore-v1-naked-die-cooling-waterblock-designed-by

 

Can you do full screen boot logos?

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So where would I download the bios to do this on my own p870dm-g i know one of the users here has a download so i'm curious on how to do this

 

prema directly. if you can find one it's probably stolen from prema so don't download those.

 

OK folks. The DM3 heat sink I got from @bloodhawk is almost ready to pop into the oven. I don't think I can bend the one heat pipe closest to the fan sharp enough to have 5 heat pipes side-by-side, but I will have 4 directly on the heat plate and the 5th pipe stacked over another. Should help the temps. I used my $10 mini-sandblaster from Tractor Supply up the road to blast all of the black paint off. Took all of about 20 seconds to strip it down to bare copper.

@Prema @Khenglish @j95 @Papusan @jaybee83 @thegh0sts @bennyg @Dr. AMK

 

will see how the temps are after baking

 

It's got the solder paste with clamps on it now. Baking at 138°C/300°F for 20 minutes. I hope that does the trick. I used all of the solder paste I had left. I did not know I was almost out of the stuff.

Edit: letting it cook another 30 minutes. The solder paste still isn't totally melted yet. I don't want to use any more heat than absolutely necessary because I don't want the pipes to swell up and ruin the radiator.

 

WOOT! It worked. I'll post some results in a bit.

 

Wow....you made it work with solder paste?

 

Yup. That's how I made my own 1080 heat sink as well. This stuff... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0195V1QEI

 

So I should just ask Prema?, How much is it?(If I do have to pay for it)

 

Great job

Fox, there is no possibility change voltage for fans with firmware tweaks? Either increase 5v up a bit or add in 12v values for 12v fans? Or is the EC problematic to mod? The 12v parts is probably hardware dependent and no go. But I mean the 5v fans can handle a bit higher voltage. If I remember correct is fan speed on Clevo voltage tuned. Correct me if I’m wrong. Or @Prema have the answers.

 

how malleable are the heatsink pipes? this might be interesting

 

Yes, I think the 12V part is hardware dependent, but I don't know. The fans are definitely too slow and quiet. They need to be much stronger, like the DM3 fans.

I shaped them with my hands, but you have to go really slow and be very careful because they will kink easily.

So, it worked but the results are too minor to really be meaningful. It takes a few minutes longer to saturate the TDP capacity of the heat sink, but other than that kind of a waste of time. There's just no way it can be a serious overclocked benching rig without AC cooling. But, I'm used to that for years now and probably shouldn't complain. One of the drawbacks to having an air cooled laptop. The temps are livable at boring clock speeds like 47x6.

 

Yeah unfortunately add extra pipes doesn’t always help.
If we only could run the 5v fans a bit faster it would help. Have you thought about add a shim as your previous mod to increase the pressure on die? You are already in work with soldering

 

I honestly do not believe it will help. The pressure is already decent. I think the heat sink radiator and fan are both too weak to support the higher TDP and extra cores with any kind of impressive overclock. It does great at stock, up to 4.7-4.8GHz. It was never designed to handle this much CPU. It's not terrible by any means, but 4.8GHz just doesn't float my boat, LOL. That was my daily driver clock speed with 6700K. On a positive note, 2 more cores and 4 more threads, what's not to love? It rapes 6700K and 7700K, so I will just have to be content with 4.8Ghz without AC cooling. It will still be amazing as a traveling monsterbook. My desktop has me too spoiled now.

 

Who was this question for? Prema?

 

Anyone who knows the specs for it.

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I think it depends on the display resolution, and UEFI with CSM disabled display it different than if you have the BIOS set to CSM/Legacy.

 

For me it's 1440p with UEFI.

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Better ask @Prema to be sure, but I think you can use the same resolution. If you use a boot logo with a solid back background that is lower resolution it should still work, but it will be centered and blend in with the black screen that is not filled by a boot logo. If you had a boot logo with a colored background it might look odd when centered with a black frame around the perimeter.

 

Translated to English.
Email From Redmond Moron's Store... "Time for a PC upgrade?".


Raw power and performance. Only $1500 usd. And you Save $200 usd I wonder if Micro$h4ft still offering Intel ssd’s and BSOD behavior due their new pastel colored OS update. Or is this feature only for the 2017 models? But I won’t check it out. I put the mail into the trash can Where it fits!!

 

The pagan environmentalist whackos from Micro$loth and Dell chirp about the environment all the time, but they are among the biggest offenders of worthless trash generation with the volume of marketing garbage they send me in the mail. It's ludicrous. But, we already know they are hypocritical compulsive liars about other things, so this is just confirmation through the exhibit of more of the same behavior. The marketing material itself, and the deceptively crafted information printed on it... garbage both ways. Count the product(s) the marketing materials make reference to, and it's garbage three ways.

@Papusan - "raw" means not fully cooked. So, they covered their butts well. The garbage they have on offer is half-baked trash, so it is raw in that sense.

 

Enjoy, Dells last Aw with socket hardware I mean the music He shall be happy this is upgradeable without to much work. Will the newest AW BGA models last equal long?



Edit. Talk about Surface Pro... https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ng-surface-pro-4-owners-with-flickergate.html

There's one sop to the neglected customer:

Customers who have already paid an out-of-warranty fee to repair the screen flickering issue will be offered a refund and should contact Customer Support for validation.​

Gee, if we had just known that, oh, two years ago.

 

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?sp...861&pvid=757378bd-5b2f-409c-a7e2-2b37e98bf1a1

https://forum.51nb.com/thread-1820716-1-1.html

Pity!
The tests of water cooling were not successful enough for the colleague from Asia.
Air cooling is probably still the best solution for the Clevos.
I would like to try that.
But that does not make sense.

 

Read this page (last post by the man himself). Something "better" might be coming down the pipeline soon.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nge-laptop-owners-welcome-too.810490/page-215

 

I have several ideas how to reduce the temperature of the processor. I think this should work. But this will complicate the construction.

 

thats what we need exactly. i have no time to go into it and still waiting for soldering tools to arrive but its gotta be diy.

@Mr. Fox @Prema thumbs up for completing the impossible. now we can laugh at BGA boys saying we can't upgrade with socket machine.

 

Hello , I've working on coffee-lake mod for old series laptops months.
But I still have some bug cannot fix by myself.

1.MSI 16L1 , 16L3
Port BIOS from MSI G25 , change pch-io configuration (both in BIOS and ME)to have all pcie work.
Modify dsdt to have battery , ac power , keyboard , touchpad working.
But USB and Graphic work abnormal.
16L3 has the same audio problem like DM series.
Modify on original BIOS , only works with coffee-lake CPUs less than 8 thread.

2.Clevo P7xxDM2,3/P870DM2,3/P870KM
Port BIOS from P7xxTM or P870TM , change pch-io configuration (both in BIOS and ME) to have everything work.
Modify NVdGpuPei to have old DM Edition GTX1080 works with P870TM based BIOS.
But all these laptop with 10-series graphic card need oc vbios (solved ,update gop >0x30006 ) , or they will not boot.
Modify on original BIOS , only works with coffee-lake CPUs less than 8 thread.

3.Clevo P7xxDM
The same as DM2,3 , and have audio issues ( audio jack mismatching)that I cannot fix.
I replace all EC 10 99 08 to EC 10 92 08 in UEFI Modules , got subsys id of realtek audio change from 10ec0892 to 77091558 , but audio jack still mismatch.
I edit driver inf , exchange 77(5)091558 and 77(5)021558 , but nothing happen.
And cannot power off when ac connected . It will auto-reboot after shutdown windows.

4.Clevo P870DM
The same as P7xxDM , only difference is P870DM do not have power off problem.
It has power on problem.
Sometimes cannot boot OS , stuck in "Resume from Hibernation...".But I didn't hibernate it , I just shutdown windows normally.

5.Clevo W650Kx/W650Dx N650DU
Cannot port BIOS from NB50Tx , it won't boot.
Modify on original BIOS , only works with coffee-lake CPUs less than 8 thread.
Port from W650KL , discrete graphic doesn't work.
N650DU has no discrete graphic so works fine.

6.Clevo W650KL
Seems it's a Z370-like BIOS , so everything works fine.

7.Clevo N95xKP6
Port from N95xTP6 , everything works fine.

8.MSI G65
Port from G25 , have one strange problem.
When I use USB mouse and keyboard at the same time .
Press A-Z or space , the left mouse button not work.
Modify on original BIOS , only works with coffee-lake CPUs less than 8 thread.

Honestly asking for solution to these problems or better method for coffee-lake mod than port Z370 BIOS to old PCH.

 

Wow
@Prema ?!