The ThrottleStop Guide

thank you! well i don't want to install xtu because i know that it creates issues with clevos and their control center.. so if i could just use throttlestop to fix anything i have to try it would be perfect.. i had already found my limit of undervolting , and that was -150, so 130 should be the sweet spot..
thanks so much for your help and i hope someone can tell me what to do with Throttlestop to fix anything if i have to fix it

 

In Throttlestop:
-Click on TPL button
-Package Power Long (increase number - this is in Watts - say 130W)
-Package Power Short (increase number - this is Watts - say 150W)
-Turbo Time Limit (increase this number - this is seconds, and determines the length of time allowed to spend at max turbo limits).
There's also 'Primary Plane Power Limits' in Throttlestop but don't understand the values to input there - it's to do with the current limit, you might need to increase that value, but google or get advice on that specific variable.

(The wattage figures I provided above are just to make sure you don't run into limitations, your laptop won't be able to cool those wattages, but you won't hit those wattages either, so doesn't matter - not sure if you'll be able to change these variables on a non-K CPU)

 

Open the "Limit Reasons' box in TS. Run your benchmark. Throttling shows up as yellow or red boxes and report back if you have any. Your CPU is nowhere near thermal limits, 70C is nothing, but there are lots of ways the CPU can constrain itself other than temps. Hence the "Limit Reasons" box in TS.

The other way is if your average multipliers across the CPU drop from below 4.0ghz stable during the entire benchmark.

I don't know 7700 turbo multis but I bet they're x40 (4GHz) on multicore as that's what you're seeing. Disable turbo and your max would be 3.6GHz - base clock. The CPU decides how much to turbo based on temperature and power. If you undervolt you improve both, which should mean you CPU decides to turbo more+higher => better scores. It's constantly happening behind the scenes, hundreds of times a second. Very hard for monitoring programs to accurately report. TS does the best job of them all by reporting 'average' multpliers. Many just report a maximum, e.g. XTU or HWInfo; plus TS uses less CPU overhead doing it too.

 

Hey thanks for your help, I tried to do what you say opening this window
https://gyazo.com/25fdc3976f24e62e8abcad0bb41f28d7

and i ran the bench without undervolt.. and nothing happened i mean those boxes never changed..

@Robbo99999

Ok i see how to change those values but why should i change them? i mean i don't care of the turbo boost.. i just don't understand why at stock voltage i need to do this thing to evade my cpu from downclocking when at full load like that...

thanks everybody =))

 

I call this screenshot from your IBT testing, throttling 101.



Check out the GFlops for the first run vs the GFlops for all of the other runs. If your computer runs at full speed and then over time slows down, that is usually a sign of throttling. If you open up Limit Reasons while IBT is running, look for one of the boxes in the CPU Core column to be red. That tells you what is causing the throttling. The multiplier reported by ThrottleStop will also show that it has decreased. The Core i7-7700 is only a 65 Watt processor. At its default settings, long term, it is designed to throttle so it does not exceed 65 Watts. You could try opening up the ThrottleStop - TPL window and see if the Package Power Long and Package Power Short are adjustable. Sometimes these are locked by the bios. If they are unlocked, try bumping these both up to 100. This might get rid of all of your throttling. Best thing about ThrottleStop is you can monitor and adjust your CPU while you are benchmark testing. That is the best way to get a better understanding of how a modern Intel CPU operates. Post some TPL screenshots if you need some help.

Edit - I just saw your screenshot. The boxes in the TPL window will not change by themselves. The boxes in the Limit Reasons window will change colors as a benchmark is running. Your bios did not correctly set your TPL limits. That is why you should try changing them with ThrottleStop. Also uncheck the Clamp option in there. It is not needed.

 

I keep forgetting that Limit Reasons is not working on the 7th Gen CPUs. That was fixed in TS 8.41. Here is the download link if you need that feature.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/0q1iya

 

Just like Unclewebb said, you wanna change the value in the box to something like 100W - it just makes sure you're not getting any power throttling if you do that. Also, you do care about Turbo Boost, because if you want to run your CPU at 4Ghz at 100% CPU load then that is at Turbo Boost.

 

@unclewebb
@Robbo99999

I've been doing 30 min of tests with some screenshots!
please take a look at them cause i'm a bit lost

1)TEST 1: stock voltage , nothing else modified , everything stock

https://gyazo.com/bc8a81f0c83e6de0856dfc66c65997fd -> this was taken mid test to show you those red bars, they would constanly blink now red... now yellow.. i guess that is the throttling.. no clue what those bars mean

https://gyazo.com/7a54ae5d4b24581a46173490a35f61d2


2) TEST 2: stock voltage, package power LONG and short bosted to 100

https://gyazo.com/e637fc18476480f61f74ba758f6dc440

3) TEST 3: undervolt -120 , package power LONG and short bosted to 100

https://gyazo.com/6252602a8c6e647f681b2e82e596005d


->> MY understanding:
ok i see that boosting the package power already solved the throttle, without even the undervolting... even though the temperatures really FIRE up.. instead when i do undervolt + package power boost, the temperatures lower by 7-8 degrees.
I have a few questions

1) I noticed that once i boosted the package power to 100, the cpu would clock stable around 3970 mhz vs 3990 mhz of before .. why is that and is there a problem with that?

2) in order to have these modifications to the package power i must have TT in the background always running ?

3) what should i do now? should i keep this boosted package power + undervolt?

4) what's the possible downeffect or downside of me raising the package power? could the system become unstable? i'm afraid to break something

5) why do i have to do these mods on a stock cpu that should be perfect already ? i mean even if it's a slight throttle i thought that a good cpu out of the stock didn't have to have at al these issues?

ty so much for your help, sorry for the many questions, just trying to understand something deeper about these things !

 

When bars constantly blink between red and yellow in Limit Reasons, that means you are right at the throttling point. The PL1 limit for your CPU is set to 65 Watts by Intel. If the software you are running is trying to consume more than 65 Watts, the CPU will automatically slow down just enough to keep power consumption at this level. That's throttling.

When you are at the throttling point, you have 2 choices. Most people start by under volting. Less voltage means less power consumption. If you are lucky and under volting reduces power consumption below 65 Watts, this will allow your CPU to run at full speed during this test without any more throttling. The other option is to raise the power limit. You can do this either in the bios or if there are no bios options to access the CPU's power limits, then you can try using either Intel XTU or ThrottleStop. If you raise the power limit and do not under volt, that might allow your CPU to run at full speed but now it is going to run hotter because it is being allowed to consume more power. You are lucky because both of these options are available to you. Some laptops and many pre-built desktop computers have no bios options for voltage control and lock the power limits so they cannot be adjusted.

When you go shopping, have you ever noticed that there are 10 different kinds of Doritos? The number of different flavors they have dreamed up is crazy but when when you think about it, all of the chips start out pretty much the same. Very similar to how all Intel CPUs come from the same silicon. They create one CPU model and then tweak it by turning on and off various features to cover as many different segments and as many price points as possible. The Core i7-7700 and the Core i7-7700K are almost identical. Check out and compare the individual specs.

http://ark.intel.com/products/97129/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_50-GHz
http://ark.intel.com/products/97128/Intel-Core-i7-7700-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz

These 2 come down the exact same assembly line. In order to create some sort of difference for marketing purposes, they set the 7700 to a 65 Watt power limit and set the 7700K to 91 Watts. A manufacturer that does not have a chassis that can dissipate 91 Watts of heat will sacrifice some performance and go with the 65 Watt CPU model instead. For eco type consumers that want to save the planet, there is also a 7700T model with a 35 Watt rating.

http://ark.intel.com/products/97122/Intel-Core-i7-7700T-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz

Instead of creating 3 factories and manufacturing 3 completely different CPUs, Intel came up with a way to create high and low watt CPUs in the same factory from the same CPU dies. That keeps Intel's costs down so we can buy this wonderful technology relatively cheap. Make sense? These same CPU dies are used to make a wide variety of different CPU models. 7600, 7500, 7400, low power T versions, unlocked K versions, non-K versions, etc., etc. are all the same. Intel just turns on and off various features and shoves the end result in different blue boxes at different prices points.

1) TS 8.41 was a test version that I never got around to releasing. Limit Reasons works in this version but the MHz are not quite right. When there is a load on your CPU, click on the BCLK button and TS should be able to correctly measure your BCLK speed. This should be all fixed up for the next release in a day or two. I wish I had access to more hardware and had more time for this project but I don't. Minor bugs like this are inevitable. If Limit reasons is all black while fully loaded, that confirms that there is no throttling going on.

2) After you have changed the power limits and changed the voltage, you should be able to exit ThrottleStop and all of those limits will remain in place. As soon as you use hibernate or sleep mode, these settings will likely be reset and you will need to run ThrottleStop again. That's why if you have these options available in the bios, it makes more sense to adjust things there so these settings are more permanent. That is also why most people just leave TS running, 24/7. Click on the Stop Monitoring button if you want a more efficient version of TS.

3) The boosted power and under volt seems to be working wonderful for you so I would keep both of those values.

4) As explained in my long story about Intel, there is no real difference in these CPUs so boosting the power limit is not going to hurt anything. Ultimately, it is your CPU and your choice. Your cooling seems good so no worries.

5) See long Intel story above. It is just marketing. A CPU model for every computer for every consumer. Kind of like how Henry Ford started making more money when he finally realized that not all consumers want a black car.

Edit - I see you are using the Windows Balanced power profile. If you are going to use ThrottleStop, you should look into using the new Intel Speed Shift technology instead.

 

Thanks so much for the long and perfect and detailed explanation ! You should write books about this ! I really got it now I would have not found a better explanation anywhere else ! Thank you so much !
What is this intel speed shift tecnology and how do I set it up ?
Many thanks !!


edit. i found the speed shift options in TT.. how should i activate them? in the TLP windows i can enable it but what values should i put ? right now it's min 1 max 255.Also should i check speed shift EPP in the main windows and if yes what value should i put? thank you!

edit1. i activated the shift in the tlp windows leaving 1 and 255, then i did a bench and i saw my clocks reduced to 3750 from 3990.. so i figured out something was wrong and reverted the change.. I guess i need to put some different values instead of 1 and 255?

 

That's good, Unclewebb explained it very well - undervolt & increasing the power limit to 100W seems like the way to go. I only played with Speed Shift briefly, but from what I learned you want to put 78 as the EPP value, and you can probably leave all the other Speed Shift windows alone - think I read that EPP to 78 should allow you to get full Turbo Boost. I'd recommend putting your Windows Power Profile to High Performance and then just enabling Speed Shift in Throttlestop - most people seem to do that rather than run Balanced Profile & Speed Shift, perhaps to prevent a conflict of managing the clocks (although I have vague memory also of Unclewebb saying that Speed Shift enabled will just override any Mhz adjustments that Balanced Profile would otherwise want to control in which case Balanced Profile would also be ok).

 

@unclewebb: Is it possible to replace only the executable file as new version of TS comes out? Is there any ways to confirm C state values, especially Interrupt Request Limit values are correct and set accordingly regardless of OS.

 

ok! i'm waiting for some other imputs from @unclewebb and then i'll try to change those values as well!
thank you!

 

(If you don't want to wait for a response, you may as well just try it - because you're not gonna damage anything by doing so.)

 

I've been playing with Throttlestop trying to eke a bit more performance out of the i7-2640m in my 'new' HP Probook 6460b ($50, woohoo.) It turbos to 35x on one core, and 33x on two cores. I was hoping I could get a bit more speed by lifting the dual core turbo multiplier to 35x, but that doesn't seem possible. Has anyone had any luck with this particular chip?

 

Hi guys,

I have been using version 8.40 of Throttlestop and I use the inbuilt notifications to monitor my CPU/GPU temps which appear on my taskbar but for some reason they have no disappeared and I can't select them in the settings.

I have tried to restart and End Task which has worked in the past but to no avail, is it a bug?

 

So @unclewebb I got your TS 8.41 and ran a TSBench for it. It doesn't seem to actually hit my machine very hard, all things considered:



The voltage hovered around 1.24v and power draw was around 65W for it, even 1024M. The whole thing ran at 4.4GHz flat (I haven't touched a thing yet with respect to voltage etc). I've seen some games and other scenarios hitting 1.38v at the stock settings, though, so I'm wondering if there's a way you could make TSBench a little heavier on voltage? Might be a better stress tester and stability tester if you do that.

(I've only run this for 5 minutes, I'll dig up and figure stuff out for you in the next couple of days as I'll be trying my testing).

 

Congrats on the new laptop, a step up from your 780M sli! Good to see you've gone for another 120Hz option!

I reckon that the relatively low stress of the Throttlestop benchmark is quite a good fit for laptops - something as stringent as the latest Prime95's with AVX instructions just produces too much heat for a laptop to reliably handle under most situations. Thinking about it freely I do reckon that an ability to put the Throttlestop benchmark on a never-ending loop would be a useful tool for stress testing overclocks & undervolts, especially as it doesn't produce insane amounts of heat. Even as it stands the Throttlestop stress test is a lot more stressful than anything most people run on their CPUs anyway.

 

Ah well see TSBench is the only stress I have touched here. The higher voltages are purely from gaming. So I figure it could be a little more brutal for the much more varied voltage usage of Skylake and Kaby Lake. Haswell generally stuck around one voltage set on adaptive no matter what I did. It did repeat-ably use higher voltage under linpack etc, but that higher voltage was very consistent. In my case, either 0.9976 (with 0.001 in variance) and a rare, short spike to 1.09v (default voltage at 3.8GHz), or, it sat at 1.09v (linpack etc).

Kaby is legit all over the place. I should have been done my tweaking and stuff a long time ago, but I have had problems getting things I needed to tweak (hardware side) but I can't really wait much longer so as I tweak I will report back =3.

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hello @unclewebb, first i want to say thankyou for your wonderfull app.
i have some problem, i have an i7 6700K OCed to 4,5GHz, the cpu freq stays at 4,5 when using TS bench, but when using heavy stressing software like LinX or Prime95, it always fluctuated from 4,5 down to 4,0 (first @4,5 then after few seconds it will be @4,0, but it will go up again to 4,5 and repeat).
How this behaviour can happen?

My motherboard is MSI Z170A-PRO.

Here's my screenshot:
CPU-Z:
http://valid.x86.fr/rdk8gx


Normal:


Reduced:


FIVR:


TPL:

 

I have an offset overclock on my 6700K with whatever standard LLC settings are applied in BIOS, and it's true that I also see brief occasional spikes to higher voltage than any of the stress testing programs (whether that's Throttlestop or Prime95), but they're very brief spikes - I'm thinking it just happens under specific scenarios as the CPU comes out of C-states (the clocks don't fluctuate on my setup, Windows High Performance Power Plan).

 

Nope, I'm purely talking games here. I've watched HWiNFO64 and seen my chip just about sit at 1.3v+ in just games, with a lot less load than TSBench provides, and it runs quite a bit hotter there too. TSBench in this respect is indeed a 100%-load stress test, but since it doesn't do much to the voltage for kaby Lake (and I assume Skylake too) it doesn't really work to produce much heat, or I think, produce much instability. If that makes any sense to you?

 

Hi @unclewebb,

Quick one. Is there any way to change the DC timer resolution? I can see the setting where you can change the AC timer resolution which is fine but on DC, it seems that throttlestop requests a 0.5ms timer resolution (or it might be something else but I'm not sure what it could be since the default AC timer resolution is 0.5ms as well).

Thanks.

 

@unclewebb

an other thing.. i just found out that when my pc enters in battery mode ( because power goes out) throttlestop automatically closes.. how is that?

edit. ok i've been playing with speedshift

1) i set evv to 78 and i left the rest of the speedshift values alone
https://gyazo.com/a62d2668b770ea0a34053281ecc87df4
I also left windows on balanced power settings in the energy settings.
I see no real change and all benchs are normal apart from I guess the cpu that now turboes to 4.1 4.2 when it's using some single-double core application

2) when i set high performance profile in window energy settings, THEN my cpu stays always around 4.1 even when it's not underload... even if there's 2% load it clocks around 4.1 , it never goes back to the 1-5 -2 -3 of the idling thing.. this happens no matter if speed shift is enabled or not.. is that bad? that's why i just left for now speed shift enabled and windows recommended energy settings.. it seems a waste to me that it always clocks at 4.1

 

@crusher88: Check out my guide here and follow the steps precisely: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-454#post-10247294

 

oh thank you.. i'll try it out right now

 

My laptop does the same thing, it seems changing power plan gives back some control to the OS. In my experience , simply unchecking/rechecking the speedshift box in the main ThrottleStop window will give back control to the CPU, and clock speed will adjust with the given EPP value.


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unclewebb,

I was looking at the TPL tab and noticed that the TDP level limits is filled in with PL 1 35 with a ratio of 17. I dont remember making any setting with this combo. Is this something that I would be able to change? I have seen others TPL screens that have nothing in this box.

 

Your Kaby behaves differently to my Skylake then in terms of voltage seen in games vs Throttlestop benchmark - for me they're the same at 1.28V. I get brief spikes to 1.31V randomly and only quite rarely and not specific to stress testing or gaming or any type of load that I can pinpoint, which I assumed to be something related to rare specific circumstances when coming out of C-states, didn't see those brief spikes when I had C-states disabled.

 

If your laptop is anything like mine (I have a 6700hq) it could have the option to lower its TDP. In Windows power management I have a Intel BlaBla Thermal Framework setting with 2 options, 35W at 2.1GHz and 45W at 2.6GHz. From what I understand, you can also control this setting from throttlestop TPL window.
In the top left, you have your standard TDP setting, mine being 45 TDP and Ratio 26 (meaning a multiplier of 26, for a base clock of 2.6GHz). In the top right, you have the alternative TDP settings you can use to limit the CPU (not all CPUs have this option, so it might be all zeros). Mine is TDP 35 and Ratio 21 for Level 1, Level 2 is empty.

You can set the TDP by checking the "TDP Level Control" box and set the level in the box next to it, 0 being no limit.


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Thank you for explaining that for me. I will try what you said tonight.


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That is the best way to update ThrottleStop. Download the new zip file and copy the new ThrottleStop.exe file into your current ThrottleStop folder.

I am not quite sure what you mean. I don't have any default values for Interrupt Response Limits. These seem to vary from one CPU to the next and from one manufacturer to the next. Sometimes adjusting these from one end of the scale to the other does not seem to make any difference. I have not had much feedback about IRL. They were useful for me on my 4700MQ.

After fixing up Windows 10, this Lenovo dual core U CPU is spending lots of idle time in package C8. Both C9 and C10 seem disabled.

I think it was possible to bump the multipliers up a little with the i7-2720QM but your Core i7 is a dual core CPU that does not have any multiplier adjustment abilities.

For any icon related problems, clean the Windows Icon Cache. Here's how.

http://www.digitalcitizen.life/how-clean-notification-area-icon-cache

The TS Bench was never intended to be a CPU crushing kind of benchmark. When first designed, itt was meant to put a more realistic load on the CPU compared to Prime95 or LinX. Just something simple so a person could watch how their multiplier responds when the CPU is loaded. It does not use any of the modern AVX instructions. I need to switch to a modern C++ compiler to turn the TS Bench into a CPU crushing fire breathing kind of benchmark. Maybe later this year I will try to add an AVX option.

@reveria - Your Limit Reasons screenshot shows EDP Other in red. This stands for Electrical Design Point which used to be current related. Is there any adjustment in your bios to increase the current limit? Have you tried increasing the Package Power Limits in ThrottleStop to some ridiculous values like 1024? I am not sure how to get around this limitation. For any real world software, you will probably never have this problem. Some stress tests are off the charts when it comes to taking your CPU to hell and back.

I do not think ThrottleStop is doing this. The default Windows resolution is usually 15.625 ms. Windows checks all software requests and then uses the lowest value that is requested. Sysinternals has ClockRes 2.1 so you can check out your timers. Open a command window to run it.

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897568

Try turning off ThrottleStop and see if anything changes. I have not played with this TS setting for quite a while. I seem to remember that TS has a hidden INI file option for this when running on battery power. If something else on your system is dropping this down to 0.5 ms, anything you request in TS will be ignored.

This is either a problem with how you have TS setup or you are using the Task Scheduler and the task you created needs to be fixed. You can find some helpful Task Scheduler info here.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-throttlestop-guide.531329/page-514

If you have Speed Shift properly setup, your CPU will not be at full MHz when it is idle. Post a screenshot of TS when your CPU is idle so I can see your C0%, your Speed Shift EPP setting, and the reported multiplier. BTW, there is nothing wrong with a fast CPU as long as you do not have a bunch of Windows 10 baggage running in the background, keeping cores busy, sending your secrets to Big Brother.

When changing Windows power profiles, have a look in the FIVR window to see what is reported in the monitoring table for EPP. If Windows is changing this value, which it probably is, I will need to add some code to TS so it changes EPP back to what you have set in TS.

 

Haha I don't think I want it to be a CPU-crushing kind of bench. Just that often it seems games make the CPU a good deal hotter without even touching 100% loads. I remember when you initially changed TSBench and it was very easy to run and you figured that was ok. Was just thinking if it's a little bit harder on a system it may be more realistic this time round.

Also, for some odd reason voltage control doesn't work for me on 8.41. I'll do some more testing and fiddle with le BIOS and get back to you about it!

 

@unclewebb

https://gyazo.com/250986317cef60364cc31320ea8a40cc -> at idle c0% stays around 5

https://gyazo.com/de7b6a25c0dd2fda5e55ed3639a6a9a9


what do i have to do with windows energy settings? perfomance or balanced mode?

 

About 300 pages ago, @D2 Ultima was playing around with this hidden INI option.

TimePeriodDC=16

Thanks for the feedback about the TS Bench. It has been a while since I originally wrote it so it might be ready for a tweak. Voltage control still works for me so you might have to adjust one of your bios settings. It might be called something VID related.

The picture you posted shows idle C0% at an average of 9.2% with one thread at 23.0%? That is not anywhere near idle. When using Speed Shift, if there is that much background activity running on your computer, your CPU will never settle down. It needs to maintain a good speed just to process all that crap running in the background. I might have to write a how to neuter Windows 10 tutorial next. Open up Task Manager and find out what is running on your computer. If you get that problem solved, you can leave your computer in Windows High Performance mode and then you can create 2 profiles in ThrottleStop and use an EPP setting of 0 for your high performance profile and in your second TS profile, use an EPP setting of somewhere between 80 and 128. In the TS Options window, it is easy to use 2 different profiles and have TS switch based on whether you are plugged in or on battery power.

 

i'm gonna investigate , can you tell me how to recognize if my pc is idle or not? what's the % the cores need to have in order to be considered idling?

 

Close everything.
Open Throttlestop.
Watch c0% for about 10 seconds.
Take screenshot.

Idle should produce near zero load, only a couple % of c0 while your CPU is downclocked.

 

Well but i don't have so much crap running.. i took the screenshot using gyazo so maybe in the second i took it, it fired up the cpu to 23%.. i mean the rest of the programs in background i have are not many.. ,my cpu stays loaded around 2% if i just look at task manager .

 

Here's what mine looks like at mostly idle (I still have things like DS4Windows, MSI Afterburner, etc running which uses up a little CPU).

 

I got a C0% of 1.5 on average at idle with a 6700hq, and that's with a lot of stuff/services disabled (used to be 2-2.5). For some reason "Audio Devices Graphical Isolation" (translated from french) needs 0.4 - 0.5 constantly, and it's necessary for sound to work (even when muted).


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Here is what a mild case of OCD will get you. Not a single thread over 1%.



@Takeishi - Lots of bad drivers out there and lots of undisciplined programmers that have no idea how inefficient their software is.

 

Yeah, I don't think I'll get something better than this. The bigger users after that last one are Interruptions, System and "software windows manager". Even my brothers 4 year old laptop with malwares runs at 0.9 on win7


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Anyway that's no big deal, I've been able to bump battery life from 4h30 to 6h30 of light usage thanks to ThrottleStop with a -160mV UV and turning off turbo boost. Now I can get trough my day at the uni without plugging it, thanks


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@unclewebb

i can't close an app right now ( firestorm consuming 0.5 % cpu ) , tomorrow i'll get an other screenshot but apart from that i just have 0,5 % thingies like killer wireless things like that plus the windows audio thingy audiodg.exe that stays around 1%..

https://gyazo.com/c4d6249590c4841b694478742f4449b0

but still provided i don't have any core more than 4 c0% , shall i then set windows on high perfomance + EPP at 0?
thank you!

edit. i just set EPP 0 and windows high performance and that fires up my mhz to 4100.. instead on windows balanced mod it clocks down around 2000-1500. etc

https://gyazo.com/c1f559602103969cb373101cf34092b9

 

EPP 0 is max performance, place it between 60-80 (higher number =~ lower clock)

Changing it to balanced just gives back control to the OS and ignore (mostly) your speedshift settings.


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@unclewebb There is the current limit, how much current limit should I set?

I already try the ridiculous values on PPL without no luck.

 

@unclewebb

@Takeishi

can i consider this idling?


https://gyazo.com/ffa7142b0051a637f2403981f0310813

I stil ldon't understand if i have to set EPP to 70 or to 0, @unclewebb said 0 and when i set 0 mt cpu as you can see from the screenshot, NEVER clocks down while idling.
Instead if I set it to 80, it clocks down while idling.
I don't understand which is better.. thanks for your help!

 

anyone know how to disable limit temp or make it higher?
Ive tried v8.41 but still cannot modify it
I saw on some post there is version with 99 C limit, anyone have link for that?

 

Well it depends on what you want, really. If you want your computer to run at max clock speed for faster processing, and there isn't a temperature issue (if your using a laptop, for example) you set it to 0. If you want it to adjust its speed depending on the load, and lower its consumption when not doing anything, set it around 80.

I personally use 2 profile for my laptop, one when plugged in and one when on battery. EPP at 6 when plugged in, so it'll stay at ~3Ghz when idle and go up to 3.5Ghz when needed. For battery, I'm testing values around 60-90, disabled turbo boost, and limit the max base clock to 2.1Ghz to maximize my battery life.


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Also, that looks idle to me, but then again a CPU running at max speed will be able to complete tasks really fast, in exchange for higher consumption (which is not really an issue for a desktop). Looking at the C7s window would give a good indication. If it's spending lots of time in the lowest state (usually C7) then it is idle.

This is what my laptop looks like at idle, 2 of the core are spending 98% of there time in C7 (so mostly unused) and 2 cores are running under 90%






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