The ThrottleStop Guide

If you have a recent version I can pay to have it not expring, i'm the first to jump in.

Is there a easy way for the most recent version to auto-start on windows 10? I thought I read about it from the obsidian guy somewhere, but I cant seem to find a direct option for that on windows 10. Its just a minor detail, I can always just start the program myself, but if there an easy way I'm all ears.

 

@Miguel Pereira I already beat you to that, several posts ago. (i swear everyone ignores everything I post unless they need something...)
But @unclewebb hasn't been online since

 

It is throttling on AC too. I have no luck with y50.

 

Probably because your CPU is hitting power limit of 15W, you could undervolt it. Again which is the cpu model?

 

I undervolt it to -50mv and my cpu is 4720hq. I dont understand why it is not working with the new version TS. Version 6.0 is working fine... Maybe it is about the windows version.
Thanks.

 

Its best that you ask @judal57 about that processor 4720HQ, it gets hot. He can tell you how to repad,repaste and some mods to fix your CPU.
@judal57 is using latest TS. Maybe you need to delete ini file in TS and start over.

 

I have a Lenovo G50-80 which has an i7-5500u and an AMD r5 m330 GPU. My issue is that I had to disable the r5 m330 permanently as it was degraded from an overclock I had and would frequently freeze games.

Now this isn't an issue because the Intel HD 5500 has the same or slightly better performance as the dedicated GPU on my games. Also, the CPU temperatures have been reduced.

I enabled Powercut in Throttlestop because the 15 watt limit basically reduces iGPU performance by around 40% after 5-10 seconds of gaming and I was wondering if it's okay to keep Powercut running with maximum CPU temperatures of ~60*C (I applied Kryonaut thermal paste) and the laptop connected to the AC adapter.

Thanks in advance.

 

Ugh I HATE it when the iGPU has better performance than the dGPU - What's the point of having it anyway? That happened to my old laptop (which I hated, found an issue with it and asked acer 4 times to give me a refund, spent 3 entire months on that.)

Anyway a maximum CPU temperature of 60C for a laptop is more than acceptable - It is fantastic. Leave powercut enabled, I'd say

BTW if you want better iGPU performance, get dual channel memory. It might not improve day to day tasks, but you will notice a huge improvement in iGPU games. This is from previous experience

 

Even I have the same issue, r5 330m is giving terrible performance. What was the voltage was it 1.5v?

 

The laptop is already upgraded with dual channel memory so I'm maxed out in performance. Thanks for the input.

I assume that's VCCIN voltage? I randomly tried 1.7v which seems to be ~0.65v above turbo boost voltage, my CPU is undervolted with a 80mv offset. If that's GPU voltage, then this laptop has no voltage control on the GPU and I don't think a GPU runs at 1.5v anyway.

 

I'd doubt that a modern GPU will run at 1.5v, especially on a mobile system. My 945M runs at 1.0X volts (Which according to Passmark has triple the performance of your M330 ). I don't have any control over the dGPU voltage - If anyone has any ideas it would be great. I already tried NvidiaInspector, I can overclock to +135MHz on the Core and +188Mhz on the memory.

 

You need Prema's vbios to get OC limits off the BIOS.
@Outofnames: I fixed the issue, it was RTSS degrading the GPU performance. I didn't observe RTSS becoming a resource hog on 980m.

 

Hi. I have two questions...

First, I'm using Windows 10, and the latest ThrottleStop ("Obsidian", it doesn't really show any version numbers... do I really have the real thing?). I can't minimize the program to system tray. I managed to get the tray icon to show up, but the regular taskbar program is still active. How do I hide the program into the background?

Second, I'm having trouble figuring out PowerCut. I have a laptop with i7-6560u. The readme guide only mentions 4th and 5th gen. Some people have commented that they got it working on their i7-6500u or similar Skylake CPUs, but they don't say how.

 

So I started getting the "Throttlestop version expired" messages on startup. Installed new version, which works fine... but the old messages (and I assume old version) is still running on startup.

What can I do to find/uninstall the old version? I tried deleting the old folder it was in, didn't help.

 

In the main windows, uncheck Taksbar option. Then Click on option button and check Start Minimized and Minimise on close.

 

Anyone seen @unclewebb recently?
@unclewebb I sent you a PM.
You can use the "Imon" offset to change the power draw reporting of the GPU. (I think this is what VCCIN did on haswell?). Imon offset is available in the Bios (if the Bios is unlocked) on skylake and kabylake, so this could be added to Throttlestop since it's an unlocked MSR. I got my CPU to report 25% less power draw than before (no loss in performance). Drawback: Vid is slightly higher (not sure if the VID reading is accurate); e.g. 4.5 ghz 1.11v -->1.14v, yet I can't really detect a change in temps easily.

 

Hey guys,

I have a 6700HQ with this stable config.

As you can see, I can set -1V for Intel GPU and it has not effect.
Is this normal?

 

Looks like it's working to me.
What does it show when your offset is "0mv"?

And I see Intel CPU. You don't have intel GPU shown.
You SURE you meant iGPU?

 

Found this very useful

 

No that's not normal.
Are you sure that you are using your iGPU?
Some laptops use GSync, which bypasses the iGPU, and some laptops using Optimus allow the user to force the dedicated GPU - I'd imagine that both scenarios pretty much render GPU undervolting useless.

 

That's true.
I have optimus so there is no point to use undervolt iGPU.

Meanwhile, I set Intel Power balance to lowest priority in iGPU and highest to CPU.

Thanks!

 

My laptop (Surface Book) has the i5-6300u, which has configurable TDP-UP to 25W. I believe Microsoft locked it at 15W. Is there a way to unlock it higher? Should I apply the PP0 Power Limit, or should I do it with the Package Power Short/Long?

Related questions: What's the difference between Package Power Limits and Primary Plane Power Limits? What is PP0? What does the "Clamp" button do, and what does the "Lock" button do? And lastly, after I apply the "Lock", why everything gets greyed out until I reboot the whole system?

Thank you!

 

Lock prevents anything from changing the power limit until rebooting. Clamp I believe simply prevents the setting from being changed elsewhere.
I dont know if PP0 power limit even works on Skylake+ systems.

 

Clamp allows it to throttle below base clocks. I always disable that.


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Hi all,

I have just downloaded throttlestop and disabled turbo and unchecked BD PROCHOT and got some improved results playing Warhammer total war on my laptop. However I am still getting some animation stuttering / lag. The worst is when armies are clashing and fighting.

When I look at the limit reason, CORE, GPU, RING all have EDP OTHER highlighted in red while playing. if i exit the game, these change to yellow.

What does this EDP other mean?? to do with power? what settings could i adjust to help this? sorry for my ignorance, I am not too familiar with all these settings.

 

It is hitting TDP limit. Are you using ULV CPU?

 

Hi Vasudev.

I am using a i7-6700HQ processor.

 

You could try undervolting to -100mV on CPU,Cache, Analog and System Agent. Its present in FIVR. Also go to TPL and tick 2 options to enable Speedshift and also check Speedshift in main window too. Consider making a battery profile with safe undervolt so that in case your system reboots you can turn off AC and TS will activate battery profile.

 

Hi Vasudev. thank you for the reply!

I moved the slider to -100mv ( and testing a few other values) offset voltage for CPU,Cache,Analog and system agent but with no improvement.
I also ticked 'Speedshift' and 'SpeedShift When Throttle Starts' under Miscellanous.

I also ticked Speedshift in the main settings ( Speedshift -EPP?)

Unfortunately no improvement when playing the game; still have the EDP Other limit reasons.

Very frustrating!

 

What's your idle and full load temps? If its above 60C at idle you could try repaste.

 

Hey all! I'm currently using intel XTU to undervolt my cpu (7700HQ), I'm running into a problem where at I can undervolt much more during load than at idle. My CPU seems fine at -0.15v during load, but is only ok at -0.12v at idle. Can throttlestop adjust undervolt based on frequency? Thank you!

 

No Ts can't change according to frequency. Stick with -0.12V.

 

Even with a static undervolt the voltage will fluctuate automatically. It isn't fully regulated wth ThrottleStop.

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idle temp 35-40c. while gaming, 65-70. These are the temps without using my laptop coolers

 

Try lifting the back of the laptop using an engineering tri-scale or X Stand from Steklo, that will reduce the temps by 5-10C.

 

Those temps don't seem bad enough to cause your problem. If the undervolting took effect (you should see the result on upper right side of TDP page), then that should have helped. Note that, if CPU and cache are not undervolted by exactly the same amount, the voltages don't drop. You could, for example, drop CPU only by 0.5 V, and there would be no effect. if you drop CPU and cache both by that amount - crash. A puzzlement.. Best, Joe

 

Hi JdPurvis,

Yes my temps dont seem too bad. The strange thing i found was I had my laptop plugged in using power supply. trying to explore possible solutions, I unplugged my laptop and had it just running on the battery. Better FPS when i did this plaing warhammer. I still had the EDP limit reason on CpU, GPU, Ring which was still restricting performance down but when I am just running from battery, my Fps seemed better. As soon as I plugged back in, FPS would suddenly drop at times

I will try undervolting again and making sure the values are the same for CPU,Cache, Analog and System Agent. what value do you think I should try?
Could you perhaps send me a screenshot so I know I am doing things correctly?

 

Which PC are you using? Specifics please?

 

Gigabyte P55
i7-6700hq
Nvidia GTX 970M
DDR4 16gb
SSD 128GB HDD 1t
Windows 10

 

I haven't had this experience. I often find slightly improved temps by decreasing my cache voltage more than my cpu voltage.

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BIOS and everything including drivers are updated, correct?

 

Looks like I shall just experiment a little and see what happens.
thank you

 

Yes all updated and everything.

 

I have been trying different voltages and still no luck. The EDP limit is very persistent!

 

Is it hitting Power Limit 1 & 2?

 

These are some screenshots of throttlestop when my computer is idle/not playing warhammer

 

Which setting does that come under Vasudev?

 

When underload playing warhammer

 

BD ProcHot? Something else is overheating in there. Open hwinfo while gaming and check all the temp sensors.

 

The BD ProcHot limit reason sometimes pops up. It has gone for now.