The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

Can you get into the bios and see if person disabled AMD Cool n Quiet or turbo or certain power states or messed with anything?

 

Bios was ok, plus I put him the newest available bios. I could not figure out the Windows or driver problems, something was messed up. I reinstalled everything and now laptop seems ok, ain't heat so much and makes 590 3DMark 11 points. I guess it is normal for A4-4400M.

 

Ok. What I thought but concerned with some posts on user forums

 

so, a couple of recent 'bargains' of the trinity sort on ebay - they actually are bargains, relative to where things have been
- item Asus N56DP DH11 Laptop Computer AMD Quad Core A10 4600M 2 3GHz 8GB DDR3 1TB 886227298068 | eBay
that's the full 1080p version. 600 bucks

- if you can stomach the A6 and you're a sammy fan, 260usd takes it home:
Samsung NP365E5C S03US 15 6" AMD A6 4400m 2 7GHz 4GB 500GB | eBay

i really despise the display on this g7, but the rest of it, aside from the HDD, is pretty good. better batt life than a monster this size should have
off topic,but the real estate broker who owns this system is the 'poster child' for Microsoft's determination to off itself. professionals like this who use iphone but are 'stuck' with MS due to business apps are just beyond infuriated. its good for consulting business, but sad to observe.
the OEM made a terrible windows 8 experience worse, introducing the 'tuned' trackpad that makes it inevitable, multiple times per day, to kickoff unwanted apps by accident. user has no idea how to 'escape' the app, gets caught in the labyrinth

i now return you to your regularly-scheduled broadcast

 

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It may be refurbished but just wow. Get that N56DP, the 7730m alone and the awesome screen are worth it.

 

Guys guess what I just found.

ASUS U38N-DS81T Laptop Computer - AMD Quad-Core A8-4555M 1.6GHz, 4GB DDR3, 500GB HDD + 24GB SSD Cache, 13.3 Full HD Touchscreen Display, Windows 8 64-bit (U38N-DS81T) at TigerDirect.com

 

That's a step in the right direction

 

Yes, very nice, has a 6-cell battery even, hopefully with decent capacity.

 

Huh. 4 GB again? That's probably single-channel.

 

Dual channel as far as I know (at lest for the European models) with 2GB soldered RAM and 2GB in the single DIMM slot.

 

$800!? Ack!

 

Agreed! A little too high and a little too late I think. Asus sure took its time releasing this model.... hmm... this or a Vizio thin&light?

Edit: I forgot, the Vizio's are "full voltage" and we've yet to see them in the wild.

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That Asus has a 19W APU, I cannot imagine how terrible is; no CPU, no GPU power. I could not even found the 25W version satisfactory enough in Samsung, when the laptop was excellent build.

 

That's not good to hear, but then again it really depends on what you're trying to do with it or does it always feel slow.
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Feels slow playing games, encoding video (if you measure time), for the rest windows experiences is good. But there is the 17W Ivy Bridge, which has significantly faster CPU with similar GPU performance and available in many beautiful thin laptops. So I just do not see the sense to buy this ultrathin Asus for $800, especially Haswell is in the corner.

 

so, how does i7 compare with a trinity A10 notebook crippled by HALF the memory of the i7 tester

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Really nice. I am assuming that is single channel DDR3 too. Would have blown it away if it had 2x4GB!

 

A10-4600M has the best mobile integrated graphics for a year now!

 

Well, not anymore. MSI laptop with AMD A10-5750M processor and HD 8970M | Hardware.Info United Kingdom

 

party pooper!

 

Marketing... sigh. Where do they get Fire Strike as 4000 score for 680m: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3740QM Processor,CLEVO P1x0EM

 

Overclocked CPU bloating the score I guess.

 

Overclocked CPU? It's a stock i7-3740qm.

 

The leaked info of the new 19W quad-core shows a really strong improvement in performance compared with the APU on the U38N. Lets hope that it is enough.
The U38N also had loads of QA issues.

That MSI gaming notebook is great bang for the buck but with Kaveri right around the corner I wouldn't jump on it. I have a feeling that Kaveri will be a bigger improvement over Trinity/Richland than Trinity was over Llano.

 

They probably had AMD A10 under 680m, that is how fair compare the two together .

Gaugamela

I would not count too soon with Kaveri, rather next spring time... For example Richland officially launched 12th of March and they are still nowhere. Not mention Richland just same as Trinity, which does not need new socket, new laptops, memory or anything, so the start easier...

 

That 3890MHz for the CPU doesn't seem stock for me, especially on a quad core mobile CPU.

Besides Atom Ant is right, they most likely tested the 680M with A10-5750M. And the P4000 score isn't for the 680M, its for the 8970M, the score for the 680M being a few percent lower than that.

 

It did mention that it had one core. Perhaps they disabled it to force it to turbo? But wouldn't that also decrease the score?

Or did they do BCLK OC?

 

Even if it did have only 1 core active, the turbo for 3740QM maxes out at 3.7GHz, and I don't see one core getting a ridiculous physics score like that, unless the Fire Strike Performance preset is single threaded. Also I have had issues with 3DMark11 giving out some BS info with crossfire and driver support, so i don't expect something newer to be more reliable (in fact I expect it to be the opposite.) And speaking of 3DMark, that combined score looks like a BS, just like mine when I have Dual Graphics active.

 

Hey guys, I am going to be digging ASUS' global website and I will be posting here whatever I find. :thumbsup:

Edit 1:
Here is the first one http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/N56DY/#specifications

Edit 2;
Here is another http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/X550DP/#specifications

Also this one is older but not sure if anyone posted already. Still it has an A10 for a 14'' so here http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/K45DR/#specifications

 

The one with A8-5550M Richland and 8750M should be a pretty well balanced laptop. Considering the P1800 of the 8750M and the decent cpu power, no cpu limiting should occur. Let's see now if it is well priced. The 8750M is the new HD 7670M but more powerfull by a substantial margin. Should be a lot of good deals soon with this gpu.

http://pcpractic.rs/proizvodi/lapto...quadcore-a8-5550m8gb1tbamd-hd-8770m-4gbhd8550

This one has 8770M GDDR5 on board which performs more or less like a 650M GT at lower power consumption.

 

Hehe, yeah here in Serbia there is some nice deals.

I 've looking at that one, 700€ isnt much for an machine like that.

 

I'd buy that to replace my 1564 if I was unaware that Kaveri was coming with all the memory thingies that can possibly change everything. Looks tempting.. Good job on AMD+Asus. Btw does it say that one slot has 1x 8gb ram? That's nice.. first time I've ever seen that on a specs page..
It's going to slow down the lappy in crossfire stuff but it is a better upgrade path I guess

~Aeny

 

That 8770M with 4GB GDDR5 seems pretty cool. Not sure why needed so much memory, probably GDDR5 modules are cheap nowadays. The 8750M with DDR3 in ultrabooks can make 2000 points, so this 8770M might around 2500 3DMark11 points.

 

Product page said DDR3 and I think it was 8750m, if your talking about the N56

 

It's even full HD lol. In France, i've seen only 3 or 4 poor Trinity models, pavillon G7 garbage with black glossy finish erk. Not to mention they're completely overpriced. So i don't have high hopes about seeing decent Richland laptops either haha.

 

I've talked about the above linked Serbian Asus N56DY with 8770M 4GB GDDR5 vs. an other brand ultrabook with 8750M 2GB DDR3.
With full HD IPS screen especially good deal for 700EUR...

 

Are we interested in Temash?
Acer Aspire V5 122P Unboxing, AMD Temash A6-1450 First Tests « Ultrabook News and the Ultrabook Database
AMD Temash A6-1450 Performance (Acer Aspire V5)|UMPCPortal – WIndows 8 Tablet and Handheld PCs

I suppose I'd be more interested in that Acer if it were $400 and included a reasonable capacity battery. Anyway, performance isn't that bad considering the clock rate and power envelope, but it's lower than I expected.

 

Oh I see, regular version has the 8750M with DDR3 though, probably what will be in US.

 

I for one am interested in Temash, just not in this Acer (3.5-4hrs meh, Acer quality/support i dont like). Temash SoCs more or less belong in a tablet/hybrid form factor and Kabini should be in something of this size. I agree this is too expensive right now and needs to be lowered a bit. That might happen when Kabini actually appears on the scene. And from what I read earlier, AMD has begun shipping Kabini to OEMs. Still, this Acer is small, light, SoC and Windows 8+touch (if you want that). It does run cool.

 

Is AMD going to release an A10 (or better) type APU w/ more than two SATA 6Gbit/s ports any time soon?

And is it the APU or the chipset that supports this type of thing?

 

It's usually the chipset that determines connections amounts such as USB and SATA.

 

1. It's been out. My 6475b's SATA ports (optical drive bay, 2.5" bay and eSATAp) operate at 6Bbit/s. I've checked with my Samsung 830, can also boot from these ports. There is a WWAN/PCIe port I have yet to test with an mSATA SSD so I can't say for certain that is SATA II or III (i have a feeling its SATA III but If i find out for sure I'll let you know). However, there are TWO or more 6475b motherboards (one of which doesn't include the WWAN/mPCIe port) so I also can't say they ALL work exactly like mine. If you need my motherboard part number let me know.

2. The chipset and in my case the AMD A70M FCH. According to wikipedia this chipset supports 6 × 6 Gbit/s AHCI 1.2 but If anyone can find something more concrete I'm all ears.

 

That's a really nice reply, especially the wiki comparison ref.

Thanks very much!

For the moment I don't need more info as wikipedia has more than enough.

As you may know, I like what I see AMD doing with their APU/chipset lineup for A10 Trinity and Richland. Here's hoping that the AMD A10 Richland will more than hold its own against the upcoming Intel Haswell cpu lineup.

Your recent mention of "Kabini" was what prompted my question. I failed to note that (from wiki): >"In January 2013 the Jaguar-based Kabini and Temash APUs were unveiled... The Kabini APU is aimed at the low-power, subnotebook, netbook, ultra-thin and small form factor markets, the Temash APU is aimed at the tablet, ultra-low power and small form factor markets."<

So given target of the Ultra-Mobile Processor market (tablets and similar small stuff without any resident HDD, and at most small mSATA type SSD) I made the disconnect that the 35 watt A10 Richland APUs were limited to only having 2 SATA III capable ports.

My bad.

Again thanks!

 

Benchmarks of the Temash APU in the Acer V5 by Notebookcheck.net.

Seems like it is a great little chip that blows the Intel and ARM competition out of the water. The CPU part is higly constrained by the TDP limits but the Kabini parts shouldn't have these limitations. The GPU beats the A6-4455M of the Trinity generation.
We should consider starting a Ultimate Jaguar Notebook/Hybrid/tablet list.

 

I am looking forward to a Jaguar tablet/hybrid. Will be a great, powerful, portable machine.

 

Yeah, at least something better than this piece of crap Acer netbook. With barely any battery capacity, just 2Gb RAM and a 500Gb HDD and for 450€ it's a total rip-off.
Nice to run some benchmarks but that's it.

 

I'm waiting to see how it compares to Tegra 4, really. In both GPU and CPU performance it looks like Jaguar will have advantage, but at the expense of power consumption. Then again Tegra 4 can only run WART, so Jaguar wins by default being able to run Windows.

 

Here's some more info about the 14" HP ProBook 445 Richland-Trinity. I think this model is many steps backwards, HP what were you smoking?! Let's look at what this "new" model brings:

From the specifications... first the CONS:
1. Only 1366x768 resolution is available (no more 1600x900)
2. 54mm gen 2 ExpressCard slot has been removed (I use mine all the time)
3. Docking port and TRUE docking stations have been removed (USB 3.0 replicators just aren't the same)
4. Secondary battery port has been removed
5. DP++ 1.2 has been replaced by HDMI 1.4a
6. eSATAp (eSATA+USB 2.0 combo) port has been replaced by just USB 2.0 port (i actually use mine on my E425 and 6475b)
7. FireWire 1394a port has been removed
8. 6-cell Lithium-ion 47 Whr (compared to 6-cell 55 Whr of the 6475b)
9. Pointstick with two additional pointstick buttons (for a total of four) has been removed
10. WWAN/mPCIe port has been removed as there aren't any WWAN options available
11. No "top-of-the-line" Richland A10-5750M APU option
12. 12.7mm optical drive has been replaced by a smaller 9.5mm optical drive

Lastly the PROS:
1. Richland APUs and A76M FCH (A70M FCH in the 6475b) also Trinity APUs are available and supported
2. Dual Graphics with the Radeon 8750M albeit with DDR3
3. SDXC/Memory Stick XC card reader
4. Slight slimmer, about the same weight but with "consumer-zed stylish" exterior (this is starting to lose its business feel)
5. Speakers are placed above the keyboard facing your ears


There's way more CONS than PROS, no thanks HP but I'll keep my 6475b thank you. I'm still betting on a drop-in Richland A10. If I wanted Dual Graphics, I'd probably skip this model for sure and NOT recommend it. Shoot i'll recommend the 6475b over this 445.

 

That's a lot of cons. I'm a bit confused about number 12, though - what's wrong with a slimmer ODD? About half of them would make zero difference to me, but the other half are all pretty significant downgrades. I shouldn't care because I'm not considering a 14" notebook for my next purchase, but it sucks to see regression from the already-underwhelming market of APU notebooks.

 

1,8,11 are what are most disconcerting. Although removing all the expansion options is a boneheaded move for a business class laptop.