The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

All right davidricardo! Nice spot. Nice to know I have an upgrade path if I desire.

 

Anyone interested in my HP 6475b? I don't use it much and other than playing and benchmarking don't really have a need for it.

 

EDIT: Nevermind

 

so I was in Bestbuy today to 'borrow' some HP ac/charger for a few minutes to look at something on my new-to-me M6 unit - sitting right next to it was one of the 'new' asus 11.5" new-A6 lv touchbooks - to me its just another dm1/x120e. messing with it for awhile, its competent but nobody would call it lightning quick.
for whatever windows WEI's are worth, its nearly identical to a e-450 - a little worse here, a little better there.
you can get a lot more laptop for 450 usd.

 

Cognus, do you remember the model name/number for that "11.5 A6 Asus" netbook? I don't think I've seen or heard about that one.

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this one: Acer Aspire 11.6" TouchScreen Laptop 4GB Memory 500GB Hard Drive V5-122P-0643 - Best Buy

 

Are you seeking another application of your 6475b? How about making a synthesized laptop?
6475b motherboard seems compatible with 6570b, 6560b, 6565b, 8560p, etc.
So by putting the 6475b motherboard, you can make, as it were, "6575b". A officially non-existing 15.6inch AMD trinity/richland powered business laptop with a numeric key and a pointstick, and a high resolution LCD.

I did similar kind of work previously. I put hp probook 4515s' motherboard into 4710s' chassis. One-in-the-world AMD CPU equiped 17 inch probook.

 

Thanks but no. I'm looking to sell it. As soon as I get the time I'll be putting it up for sale.

 

Thats the Acer with the tablet processor, not an Asus. I would pass on that one too and get something with a Kabini A6-5200 (25W) or A4-5000 (15W), instead of the A6-1450.

If you were happy with the original DM1z like I have, then the new Acer is alright, but while the E350 does fine for Micorsoft Office, websurfing, and surprising well at multitasking, I am looking for something with little more performance, like the quad core A4-5000 in a convertible unit. Even the E2-3000 should be pretty good in an 11".

 

Really nice deal for Acer V3 here in Serbia. (447€
Acer Aspire V3-551G-8450121TMakk 15.6" AMD A8-4500M/12GB/1TB/HD 7670 2GB - Laptop komponente racunari LCD televizori laptopovi prodaja - PC Practic

 

Check this out 45W Richland for desktop.

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013070201_AMD_prepares_A10-6700T_and_A8-6500T_APUs.html

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A shame that the 45W and 65W APUs won't be coming to laptops to compete against the i5s + dedicated GPUs.

 

The 45W APU isn't any better than A10-5750m as far as CPU is concerned, they are clocked the same, the only differance is higher clocked GPU which is similar to desktop A10s.

 

Samsung haven't updated the drivers for my NP355V5C since Oct last year! Go Samsung

 

I guess this would make sense if you determined the GPU was the bottleneck in most games when just using the APU and no discrete graphics.

 

Good news everyone! Anandtech recently put out this piece regarding some nice iGPU updates that will impact APUs like Trinity/Richland positively!

AnandTech | Windows 8.1 and VS2013 bring GPU computing updates to Direct3D and C++ AMP

 

so, I've been rehab'ing this M6-1035dx and have it rolling pretty well. No big upgrades yet - just paired-up the ram using some I had in the shop - 2x4gb.
I must say this unit is way better implemented than the gateway/acer I had been getting ready for sale [now sold]
pretty good ergos, decent keyboard, feels lighter than its stated 5.25lb.
under-spec'd hinges/implementation feel like would be easily cracked from too much wiggle. definitely not a one-hander.
but the overall performance is more impressive than I thought - it just has a 'quick' feel, and that with a mundane hard drive.

that brings a question - I've been crawling all over trying to get exact specs AS IMPLEMENTED on this particular model.
Can one of you smarter guys tell me: as implemented, what is the SATA speed at the HDD? I'm wanting to match a SSD to it and need to know what to get

thx

 

Almost all laptops use SATA3 ports. Not even the 15K RPM HDDs come close to saturating the ports.

 

Well Toshiba already have a AMD Kabini laptop here in Australia.

It should be $100-150 cheaper but AMD isn't priced competitively over here.

 

HP E0J61UA#ABA 17.3" Notebook | Staples®

 

Samsung killing the Ativ Book 9 Lite with a high price tag and low battery capacity. 800$ for a Kabini notebook???? Seriously? Nice way to rip off people. They should've sold it for 600$ at most.

 

Has this been mentioned?
Toshiba Satellite S75D Laptop AMD Quad-Core A10-5750M 2.5GHz

At least somebody got it right - finally.

 

Samsung Ativo is way overpriced - seriously Samsung, what the heck do you think you are doing?
Its a low resolution screen in a 13.3" form factor, featuring a quad core CPU that's meant to go up against Intel Atom's (and is actually disturbingly close in performance to an Intel i3 cpu).
$800?
This thing should be $500 at most... $450 to a minimum maybe.

As for Toshiba - its a 17" notebook - too large.
15" and lower should be the offer.
For the love of man, if PcSpecialist can offer a 3630QM and GT650M GDDR3 with 16GB of RAM in a 11" netbook, then the A10-5750M can certainly fit into the same form factor, and certainly marginally larger (say 14")

Manufacturers are STILL apparently sabotaging AMD.
If its not in form factor, then its in everything else.

 

They are all waiting for Steamroller perhaps, unfortunately.

 

Kaveri isn't likely to come out if AMD can't sell any Richland chips due to crap laptops.

I don't think any of the OEMs are taking in consideration of a potential scenario where the only x86 chip supplier would be Intel.

 

$800 is the msrp, it should be a bit lower at retail and poor sales are bound to bring that price right down to reality anyway. Samsung did this with the 14" and 13.3" Trinity ULV 5 series.

Ill add the rest to the list.




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Amen!

Playing devil's advocate for a second, however, from those manufacturer's viewpoint, why take away from your limited supply of high end resources (1080p displays, for one) to put into uncertain demand, slow moving inventory? Market perception is still heavily favored for intel, and sales margins on laptops in general are already fairly thin (typically single digit percentages, according to a quick google), So it only makes sense to put them where it makes the most money. While it would be nice to cater to all markets, businesses that might try would end up dying off, reducing competition, and thus, diversity and innovation.

I guess I'll never see that 35W A-10 in a 1080p 11.6" chassis.

 

That is correct, in my tests I found they consumes to much power to be able to build in a small chassis like that.

 

Then why can an 11" netbook be offered with 3630QM and a dedicated GPU like 650m GT GDDR3?

 

Intel CPU's are more heat tolerant (to throttling) and heat up less at the same or higher workloads.

AMD is still not there in terms of efficiency - even if they were the one time leaders over a half dozen years ago.

 

You're pairing a dedicated GPU with the CPU. That's an extra 25W to 35W power consumption under max load. That i7 has to be pretty darn efficient and heat tolerate.

 

Exactly; it is.

 

I was under the impression that AMD's chips were made on a more heat resistant silicon - which is why (among other reasons) their CPU's are clocked higher.

Besides, what's the difference exactly between a 35W A10 Richland APU and a 45W 3630qm?

The latter is bound to produce more head with a dedicated GPU in the mix in a 11" casing - and if I'm not mistaken, AMD cpu's don't really suffer from large throttling issues anymore (since the Richland refresh).

 

My info/experiences:

AMD throttles at significantly lower temps than Intel does (I've seen as low as 80C allowing throttling).

AMD gives much less performance per watt of power.

AMD and Intel do not report the same in terms of TDP - if they did; we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

Those laptops are thick and noisy, are the common people want hair dryers? I think 13-14" thin chassis could be real for 35W Richland (if the laptop has well built cooling system), but that is need more investments and nobody wants bothering so much with AMD laptops. Especially when Intel has better offers, a 15W Haswell has faster CPU cores and almost as fast graphics with HD5000...

 

If you guys were wondering what processor the new ATIV Book 9 Lite is using and thought that it was Kabini, guess again. From the spec sheet ( https://www.samsung.com/us/computer/pcs/NP915S3G-K02US-specs) where it says quad core up to 1.4GHz processor it's easy to tell that this thing uses a software modified Temash A6-1450. Why??? When in turbo it uses as much power as a A4-5000 but is 100 MHz slower on both the CPU and GPU, and only supports DDR3L-1066 vs DDR3L-1600.

Also last week there were a lot of rumors going on about Kaveri being delayed a quarter, not sure whether it is about Desktop or Laptop, lower end APUs only, or just completely wrong but there is some good news too. ASUS already released a motherboard with A88X chipset and FM2+ socket with support for Kaveri and PCIe 3.0 X16!
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (NYSE:AMD) Releases With Help of ASUS World What do you guys think? I think if the chipset is out than the processor shouldn't be far behind, at least the Desktop models.

 

It uses an individual temash APU, that no other laptop manufacturer will use. 1.4GHz supported on hardware level, while in the original A6-1450 software boosts to 1.4GHz. Not sure what the sense of it, but probably because A6-1450 was made for tablets and supposed to work 1.4GHz only in docking. Samsung probably asked here fine-tune, because Ativ book 9 is not a tablet and need different turbo.
The GPU part will operate on higher clocks too, but no information on that... It also interesting "AMD" brand will not be visible in the system .

 

Acer Aspire 11.6" TouchScreen Laptop 4GB Memory 500GB Hard Drive V5-122P-0643 - Best Buy

$379.99 :thumbsup:



EDIT: Amazon has it for the same price, with 2-day prime shipping and a backlit keyboard!
http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-V.../ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

Looks like Kaveri delay is official, launch date postponed to February.

 

Link, or source that confirms this?
I don't think AMD made any official statements about Kaveri being delayed.

EDIT:
http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-apu-delay-confirmed-launches-pushed-midfebruary-2014/
http://vr-zone.com/articles/new-confirmed-details-on-amds-2014-apu-lineup-kaveri-delayed/47455.html

This seems to confirm the delay... but again, despite the inside documents, AMD itself has not made any official claims as of yet.
Still, I guess its better they delay and release it as a properly done chip instead of repeating what they did with Bulldozer.

 

I don't think the delay has anything to do with the chip being properly finished or not, AMD had working Kaveri samples since about a year ago. The issue here is either production where most of the silicon is defective or supply issues where the 28nm fabs are too saturated due to XBone and PS4 APUs and the console pre-orders being sold out they have to make way more chips than initially estimated.

 

At least they priced it better.

But it seems that the OEMs will use Temash for netbooks and Kabini for 15,6'' and 17'' crapbooks. They truly deserve that AMD is moving away from competing with Intel.

 

Here is something new HP 255 Notebook PC - AMD A4-4500 1.5GHz, 4GB DDR3, 320GB HDD, DVDRW, 15.6 Display, Windows 8 64-bit (E2B54UT#ABA) at TigerDirect.com with A4-4500 quad core Kabini for $369.

 

I am, nonetheless, very happy to see Samsung release the ATIV Series 9 Lite. Show me an alternative at <3.5lbs, 13.3" touchscreen, SSD, >= 6hrs achievable battery life, and having a slim attractive form factor for $800 msrp. I'm not aware of any alternative less than $1000.

For daily tasks of a highly mobile user, each of the considerations above are more important to me than a processor having high peak benchmark scores. At this level, an SSD provides more benefit than a faster processor. I would certainly prefer ATIV 9 Lite over any Intel Core system with HDD for most daily tasks. AMD systmes are normally crippled with HDD, and it is refreshing to finally see an AMD system with everything else done right!

I was a bit disappointed in the choice Temash APU rather than Kabini A4-5000; however, locked in at the higher TDP there may be little performance difference. I also don't mind the lower screen resolution -- it is no different than MacBook Air, which is clearly a top-of-the-line ultraportable. Although Samsung lists battery life as 5.5hrs, reviews have shown longer run-times to be very achievable.

My only real disappointment is the lack of 256GB option, which limits usefulness as a primary PC without upgrading. A non-touch option would also be nice to reduce cost. Compared to UK pricing, a non-touch could be ~$670 in US. A very respectable price for the ATIV Series 9 Lite, given its premium build features!

 

I'm really liking my 6475b after almost half a year of ownership. I'm currently typing this from my new "unlocked" HP Ericsson WWAN/T-Mobile SIM practice setup. 5.64 Mbps on HSPA+. This Trinity notebook still rocks. Love it!

Got it on ebay for $30 "new" and shipped. It looked the part.
Search for "Ericsson F5521GW HP hs2340 HSPA+ 21Mbps WWAN 632155-001 631727-002"
HP driver support for XP Vista and 7


Released:2011-04-14
File name:
sp52715.exe [1/1, 15.16M]
Version:6.3.5.3
Compatibility: Windows XP Vista and 7

Version: 7.2.2.0 (19 Jun 2012)
Operating System(s): Microsoft Windows 7
File name: sp57728.exe (22 MB)

Also got a chance to try out a Samsung 64 GB mSATA SSD and it didn't work. The system halted at the BIOS. Someone help me unlock this please!


EDIT: I bought that Acer V5-122P-0600 for $380, its quite nice for an ultra low voltage portable but its a big step down from my 6475b (I'm ok with this). Its mini display port supports USB 3.0 too (AMD Lighting Bolt) which caught my attention. I kinda like having the touch feature, today i found myself poking my finger at two non-touch laptop displays.

 

How are the A10 and A8 compared to Ivy Bridge Y series ? The Yoga 11S starts at $799 for an I3(Y) and the Ativ Book 9 Lite is at the same price but with a Temash inside...

 

You can get some nice Ivy Bridge ultrabooks at that price point.

 

True, I do see the Ivy Bridge Yoga 13 available at TigerDirect for $900 now that Haswell is updating these systems. Though the Yoga 13 may be a better option overall if you need the performance, I still feel the $100 price difference making it a difficult choice, since for my needs I doubt I will even feel the difference in processor.

But the ATIV 9 Lite would benefit from a price reduction to give it a stronger pricing edge over new previous generations of Intel systems.

 

Everyone who has a Dual-Graphics (crossfire APU with dGPU) Trinity, Richland or even Llano notebook please go try out the new Catalyst 13.8 Beta Drivers. It appears to have finally fix the micro-stuttering issue we've all come to know and hate. I will be trying these out with my Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E425 (A4-3300M + 6470M) later after work.

AMD Catalyst 13.8 BETA (13.200.0.0 July 23) - Guru3D.com Forums

Enjoy!



EDIT: From the Alienware threads, someone already tested them on a M18X with positive results.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m18x/727192-amd-catalyst-13-8-beta.html#post9312766

EDIT: And an in depth review of the new drivers tested by pcper.com.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-Catalyst-138-Brings-Frame-Pacing-AMD-Radeon

 

the Samsung Series 9 Lite is out here in Australia, it's light but not as light as the normal Series 9, it's definitely a beautiful machine but it costs twice as much as it's worth.

The screen is above average but still 1366x768

$1098 AUD, it doesn't say the processor anywhere even in dxdiag except the video card which is an Radeon 8350
Windows Experience Index

Processor: 4.5
Memory: 5.5
Graphics: 4.0
Gaming Graphics:5.8
HDD : 8.0



That's pretty crap if you ask me when you can get i7 laptops for that much. They're selling a Toshiba AMD A6-5200 15.6" for $700 which is a better (not by much) deal although it's


1366x768
5 hour rated battery life
standard size and weight.

Also there is a AMD A4-5000 Acer Notebook that has everything else the same as the Toshiba and beats the WEI of the Samsung for $494.

OEMs still treating AMD like crap and putting it in 2011 laptops.

I'm half expecting Sony to release a decent AMD notebook considering that AMD powers the PS4.