The Ultimate AMD Trinity Notebook List

I would guess that 7640G is around 70% as powerful as the 7660G given that they have pretty much the same clock speeds but the 7640G has 256 shaders to the 384 of the 7660G

 

I went ahead and jumped on the deal since I had giftcard. Came to 383 for me. Comes with code for dirt 3. Any benchmark requests?

 

Really makes you think. If this is being done, I see no reason an AMD powered equivalent can't be made.

Id love to see this done but due to the higher cost of 32nm 17W A6 it probably won't ever happen. Yes oems are lazy, stagnant & they do not take chances into making more attractive options.

Yes, yes, yes & more yes!

They might have one on display at the store, I'm sure you could call & ask. This comes with 8gb ram & a 750gb hdd which are nice & big. Acutype keyboards are plesant to type on too. Everything else is average. Overall looks like a good notebook though.

Good price. Can you give us a review?

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Quick question guys, what do you think of this deal:

Samsung NP355V4-S01CA 14"
A10-4600M
6gb RAM (4gb + 2 gb)
7670M 1gb + 7660G dual graphics
750gb, 5400 rpm

For 550$?

And do you think I would need to fork out for a 2x4gb ram setup?

 

4+2 should be fine.

 

I would buy a 14'' notebook with that for $550.

 

But 4+2 won't run in dual-channel, which is really important for apu/crossfire performance.. and anything on the memory bus, really. Weird choice to have 4+2 as the standard config. So you should probably pick up two 4Gb chips.

 

That's a terrific deal!
Would you mind leaving a small review afterwards? You know, display quality, build quality, some opinion about gaming if you are going to use it for that...
And that's a new notebook to be added to the list! Samsung np355v4.

IMO, this is one of the best deals around.

 

More info on the Asus K45DR. It will be available with the A6/A8/A10 APUs.
For sale in Thailand.

 

350 euro. That's not bad for a full-featured laptop.

 

Great specs for the price actually. Anti-reflective display, big hdd, plenty of RAM from the get go & I like the 14" form factor. I remember reading a user review on this very similar Samsung notebook (almost exact same specs). I think Guagmela posted the link a few posts back. You might want to check it out or search out reviews before you buy it. And yes, reviews are welcomed.

I was under the assumption that as long as both sodimm slots were occupied that it meant its operating in dual-channel mode & RAM capacity wasn't relevant.

If the Trinity ASUS K-series is out for sale in Thailand, id imagine it wouldn't be too long until it made its way to the USA. Nice find btw!

Ill add this new info to the list later today when I get a chance. I've got a busy day today & I'm getting internet back at home.

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You know, I'm not completely sure how that would work, or what sort of performance you would be likely to get out of it. But maybe you're right. And that it depends on the way the controller will address the memory areas. So that you wouldn't have that much of a performance hit in practice, even with mismatched sticks. And the timing on ram now isn't so critical as it used to be, after all..

Anyone have any numbers on any performance differences with.. similarly timed but differently sized ram?

 

With 4GB + 2GB RAM modules; 2GB + 2GB RAM will run in dual channel mode. The remaining 2GB RAM will run in single channel mode.

This is called Asynchronous Dual Channel which is not as good as Synchronous Dual Channel (especially for igpu's).

Better to have 4GB + 4GB RAM modules to have full Synchronous Dual Channel mode and give the platform as much performance as it can possibly have.

 

Unfortunately Best Buy doesn't have this on display in the store:
Lenovo - 15.6" IdeaPad Laptop - 8GB Memory - 750GB Hard Drive - Gray Metal - P585 - 4575H4U

I looked an an i5 they had there, though, which looked similar physically. I wasn't all that impressed with the screen but I think the build is better than the A10 HP they're selling. I'm recommending it to a friend of mine.

 

My acer v3-551 shipped with 1 stick of 1333mhz ram. Go figure. Only game so far is starcraft and it runs well but looking at cpu speed it keeps throttling down instead of staying at 2.3( havent seen it hit 2.8). I wish they'd fix this somehow the temps are at 60c at 2.3 underload so should be able to go higher.

 

Get another stick! and putting power plan to High performance usually works wonders.

 

That's with power plan on high... I wish that I would get at least 2.7ghz on all cores considering this is pretty much same as a10 just clocked lower and some cores disabled.

 

Thanks for the input guys, I think I'm gonna grab one and see how it runs. What kind of apps do you use to check cpu load and other stats? Is there something similar to ThrottleStop for AMD APUs? Right now I only have CPUID Hardware Monitor in mind for temperature monitoring.

 

I use amd overdrive to monitor everything and pscheck to lock in power states. I wish amd would update their utility to allow manually configuring trinity.

 

Ohhhh god.... just thinking about that UX31A makes me drool. The thin chassis + ULV A10 gaming capabilities +1080p IPS display all at a lower price than the Intel version would be sick. And you would get equal or better battery life.

But... AMD is getting the shaft as usual and only gets a limited array of cheap budget notebooks rather than offering cheaper premium computers. Of course, some is definitely AMD's fault. I still think It was dumb to make brazos 2.0 chips for a dying netbook market just so OEMs could take away Trinity sales by putting them in 15" laptops. The A6 ULV should be in any of the netbooks that are left. But , I also would not be surprised if Intel was slipping some under-the-table money to Dell and Hp.

That is why notebooks can't compete with tablets. You can buy an iPad for $500 with a retina display for the same price as a Core i3 processor laptop with crappy design and a cheap 768p panel. Intel charges ridiculous prices for CPUs that are overkill for what most people do (web browsing, skype, word processing, etc) If OEMs could sell an XPS 13, UX31A, Series 9, or HP Spectre XT for $800 or $900 and they could all play games at reasonable settings with decent battery life, I'd buy that over an iPad or Galaxy tab any day.

Intel didn't even come through with Ivy Bridge... one of the main points was to get more dies per wafer and thus lower prices on chips. However I don't see any lower prices, and I have read articles that say OEMs are making low profit margins. So who saves money from 30% more dies per wafer?... Intel because they are just pocketing the higher profits. Yet, OEMs still choose them over AMD. Cheers to hoping 2013 ARM offerings will bring force Intel to compete.

^Thats my AMD/Intel rant

 

Hm. Thanks, learned something today as well. ..so - mixed speeds for any writes above 4Gb address marks..? Or above 2Gb?

 

Well said.
Like in the mobile department,it's probably better if there were 3 options!

 

Single channel above 4GB (reads or writes).

(The lowest capacity Sodimm is matched (or doubled) and that is what is running in Dual Channel).

 

Hi guys - I registered soley due to this thread, it seems to be the only repositry of info I can find on Trinity laptops.

I really like the look of the Samsung Series 5 13" 535U3C - even though it only has the a6 inside of it.
In the UK they're coming in at around £500 but for that price there's nothing else quite like it - it's thin and can probably handle some basic games I'd throw at it (I like turn based strategy - so I don't think it'll be taxed too much).

Does anyone have one, and can anyone confirm:
a) It can actually handle a bit of gaming
b) Does adding more RAM kick it into Dual Channel and does that make a significant difference?

Thanks guys..

 

yes and yes.
for older games it'll be perfect, for new games it'll be on low-medium settings.

Lenovo announced the S405

14"
AMD A8 (not A10 )
1.8kg
1366x768.
AMD finally have a 32gb SSD option also and price STARTS at $499.


Also at IFA, NONE of the computers use AMD!?!?!

 

The A10's can handle gaming - but they are far from a 'gaming' notebook.

See:
AnandTech - ASUS UX31A: Putting the Ultra in Ultrabooks


Notice the low 1366x768 resolution and the medium quality settings these games were tested on...


More RAM doesn't enable Dual Channel Mode - Two Sodimms enable Dual Channel Mode; so if you use 2x 2GB sticks you will get more (memory) performance than using 1x 4GB stick.

I would suggest throwing as much RAM (and the speediest RAM) as possible at this setup (A10's...) to get the most benefit from this platform. 2x 8GB DDR3 12800 (1600MHz) Sodimms sounds just about right here (to me - remember; the video cards will be using main system RAM too).

As to does it make a significant difference? I would say yes (for the $$ involved).

Specifically:

See:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...g-benchmarked-various-ram-configurations.html


Hope this helps.

 

Lenovo announces the AMD Trinity S405 notebook. Looks atractive and it will be really cheap.

 

Hey guys check this Lenovo IdeaPad s405... oh wait... I see you guys already found it! Adding it to the list plus a few related articles that basically say the same thing. I really like the S405's design and if it really only comes available with an A8 I suppose someone like me would put an A10 in there anyways. It's not the first time I wished Lenovo would've offered better APUs in there notebooks. Also, I think the "32GB SSD" might be an Intel only mSATA SSD. The reason I say this is because in the past Lenovo only used mSATA on Intel equivalent notebooks (e420 vs e425 but also Intel Sleekbook vs AMD Sleekbook).

Edit: Look what I found! The Hardware Maintenance Manual for the IdeaPad S405 of course. This reveals a few new juicy tidbits. I wouldn't mind picking one up from the Lenovo Outlet at the right price once these become available.

1. The manual shows disassembly illustrations and it appears the APUs are soldered to the mobo. This can only mean ULV BGA APUs. Most than likely the stock RAM is also soldered to the board as it only appears to have 1 free sodimm slot (exactly like the Samsung 5 Series).

2. It appears AMD is now making some additional ULV BGA APUs we had not heard about before. There is now a quad-core A8-4555M & a dual-core A4-4355M, along the known A10-4655M & A6-4455M.

3. It appears the S405 will have a discrete GPU with 1 GB. The manual lists A70 mobo FRUs for "UMA" and "DIS 1G" as well as two different heatsinks, "UMA" & "DIS." You can also tell by the illustrations that there does exists a discrete GPU on that board.

4. All of the RAM FRUs show 2-4GB 1600 RAM only.

5. Battery will be removable and will be a 2200mAh 14.8V 32Wh 4-cell lithium-ion battery.

6. Only 7mm hard drives are used & there are indeed FRUs for mSATA SSDs (16 & 24 GB capacities) from Samsung (MZMPA024HMCD 24GB), Sandisk ( Sandisk U100 SDSA5DK 24G) & Ramaxel (RDM-II XM020C 24G). From what I can tell it appears the the mSATA port is right next to the PCIE WLAN port and judging by the mSATA FRUs we can assume it'll be there.


I too was looking for AMD-powered products at IFA but so far this s405 has been the only one. If anyone else spots one, let us know!

Edit: What I'm starting to wonder is where the heck is Sony and Asus at with their promised Trinity notebooks?! Sony hasn't released anything! At least we've seen a few Asus Trinity notebooks but they've yet to be released. If Asus can release something as nice as that Zenbook U500, then maybe they can release something similar but with an AMD chip+dgpu inside. C'mon!

 

There are strange things in that Hardware Maintenance Manual, so I would not count on it. Why is the chipset Intel in AMD laptop... ?

Wonder where did you get the A8-4555M? I've never heard about and I believe the only available A8 is A8-4500M... And that is socketed, therefore upgradeable to A10-4600M. Read this article too, which will explain S405 has up to a 1TB HDD (9mm) and option of a 32GB solid state drive (mSata).

 

Yes I agree that just because its in the Hardware Maintenance Manual doesn't always mean it will be offered or available. And, sometimes the manuals have typos or errors too.

Scroll to the bottom of the manual, under "Parts List" starting at page 60 is where it lists the APUs, motherboards, 7mm HDDs and mSATA SSDs, etc., but no mention of any 9mm 1TB HDD or 32GB mSATA SSD. This is the first time I heard about this (U?)LV BGA A8-4555M & ULV A4-4355M too hence why I was surprised. However, there isn't a motherboard part number with the discrete GPU listed with the A10-4655M . Looks like crossfire will be the name of the game for this s405.


According to the manual, the boards listed with dGPU include:
5 VIUS5 MB DIS 1G A70 A4-4355M HDMI 90000792 N
5 VIUS5 MB DIS 1G A70 A6-4455M HDMI 90000787 N
5 VIUS5 MB DIS 1G A70 A8-4555M HDMI 90000789 N

UMA or non-dGPU boards:
5 VIUS5 MB UMA A70 A4-4355M HDMI 90000791 N
5 VIUS5 MB UMA A70 A6-4455M HDMI 90000790 N
5 VIUS5 MB UMA A70 A8-4555M HDMI 90000788 N

ULV BGA APUs:
6 Processor, Comal QC AMD A10-4655M 2.0G/2.8G 4M 4C
A1 BGA CPU 102500368 N
6 Processor, Comal QC AMD A8-4555M 1.6G/2.4G 4M 4C
A1 BGA CPU 102500370 N
6 Processor, Comal DC AMD A6-4455M 2.1G/2.6G 2M 2C
A1 BGA CPU 102500372 N
6 Processor, Comal DC AMD A4-4355M 1.9G/2.4G 1M 2C
A1 BGA CPU 102500374 N

Heatsinks:
13 VIUS5 HeatSink DIS 90201811 **
14 VIUS5 HeatSink UMA 90201812 *

7mm HDDs & mSATA SSDs:
10 HDD, 320GB, 5400rpm (7mm), MN500S 320G, 7mm, others TBD 16200265 **
10 HDD, 320GB, 5400rpm (7mm), Seagate ST320LT020 5400RPM 7MM 320G HDD 16005211 **
10 HDD, 320GB, 5400rpm (7mm), Aquarius-B Slim 7mm 16200274 **
10 HDD, 320GB, 5400rpm (7mm), Seagate ST320LT012 320G 5.4K rpm 7mm HDD 16200212 *
10 HDD, 500GB, 5400rpm (7mm), MN500S 7mm, others TBD 16200264 *
10 HDD, 500GB, 5400rpm (7mm), Aquarius-B Slim 7mm, others TBD 16200273 *
10 HDD, 500GB, 5400rpm (7mm), Seagate ST500LT012 500G 5.4K rpm 7mm HDD 16200211 *
10 HDD, 320G 7200rpm (7mm), HTS725032A7E630 RV 7.2K rpm 7mm 320G HDD 16200305 *
10 HDD, 320G 7200rpm (7mm), Seagate ST320LT007 7200RPM 7MM 320G HDD 16005030 *
10 HDD, 500G,7200rpm (7mm), HTS725050A7E630 RV 7.2k RPM 7MM 500G HDD 16200306 *
10 HDD, 24G SSD, Samsung MZMPA024HMCD 24G mSATA SSD 16200256 **
10 HDD, 24G SSD, Sandisk U100 SDSA5DK 24G mSATA SSD 16200252 **
10 HDD, 24G SSD, Ramaxel RDM-II XM020C 24G mSATA SSD 16200253 **
10 HDD, 16G SSD, Samsung MZMPA016HMCD 16G mSATA SSD 16200255 **
10 HDD, 16G SSD, Sandisk U100 16G mSATA SSD 16200215 **

Edit: This Anandtech article proves what I found and some new information that none of the other tech blogs mentioned.

Lenovo Announces New Ideatabs and IdeaPads at IFA

Edit: Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E535 is now officially for sale in the USA. Check Lenovo.com for customization options.

 

And here's a new Toshiba Trinity notebook: the Satellite S955.

As for Asus, I think they're releasing the Trinity notebooks mostly in Asia. But you can aslo already get the K55DR in my country.

 

Awesome! I'll add that one to the list as well. I like that Toshiba S955, but I wonder what A8 its using? Check this article:

Toshiba Satellite S955: Windows 8 For $600








Toshiba S955 First Look Video from CNET

 

Another 15" notebook. What the heck? The best option we may have is with that S405 if an A10 does become available.

 

I know we've got a good idea about this but here's great in-depth review of the Samsung Series 5 535U4C Notebook from notebookcheck.net for those interested. Added to the list.

Review Samsung Series 5 535U4C Notebook


Edit: In other news...

Samsung slips into AMD's HSA party, may seek parallel processing boost for Exynos

HSA Foundation President to Deliver Opening Day Keynote at IFA 2012

AMD infographic to IFA 2012: From Edison to AMD - the success story of the video

Edit: Some interesting slideshow and more from this site...

GPGPU algorithms in games

 

Well, that ain't sounds as good as what I expected first. So AMD came out with new 17W part (A8-4555M). Actually it's good; quad core in 17W, but unfortunately also mean there is no upgrade option for more advanced users... A10-4655M just not fit into with 25W TDP .

 

I noticed that review. However they reviewed the A6 version.
I wanted to see a review of the A10 version. Did anyone notice that there's no review whatsoever in tech sites of an AMD notebook with a A10 APU? (excluding the test unit provided by AMD)

 

Not sure if this was mentioned already:

See:
ThinkPad E535 - stylish small business laptop from Lenovo (CA)


This (ThinkPAD) might get me to consider an AMD based setup - depending on the actual performance, of course.

 

That Toshiba looks like it may actually be a compelling AMD offering for those who want a touchscreen Win8 notebook. =)

But the Lenovo S series looks a bit disappointing. I am expecting full-voltage APUs in those. Seems to be a cheaper, more consumer oriented version of the Thinkpad Edge series, except I am surprised to see a hybrid drive being used. I guess AMD has figured out their own version of IRST. No option for the A10 or higher res screen is just another fail IMO.

 

Well I returned my acer v3 and exhanged for the asus k55n. It turns out they are slowly getting them at bestbuy as one in my area received one. There's a $20 difference between the two but the asus is the better model. Only con is onc piece mouse pad design instead of individual buttons like on the acer. I picked up a SSD and ordered a stick of ram that's on the way.

Differences that make Asus k55n superior to Acer v3:
-No shiny surfaces that show finger prints on k55n
-Comes with 1 stick of DDR3 1600 4gb instead of 1333 like v3
-Stays cool and doesn't heat the case up like the v3
-Design isn't as bulky as the v3 and feels smaller
-No bloatware installed on asus unlike the v3
-Costs $450

 

I've noticed that too. AMD Trinity powered notebooks can't catch a break. What's also weird is that this A6-4455M model is paired with 7550M dGPU. We already know crossfire doesn't always work as intended but squeezing in that dGPU is still pretty cool.

Thanks, added it to the list! The E435 will be the one with the dGPU option.

Wait a minute!? That Toshiba has touchscreen? I thought it just had touchpad gestures for Windows 8.

You're forgetting that the S405 is very thin. Like the Samsung 5 Series, a soldered APU becomes your only option as the socketed APUs take up more space and most than likely the cooling system couldn't handle a full voltage APU. The quad core A8-4555M (most than likely 25w) is basically the same, CPU-wise, as the A10-4655M. Where it differs is the iGPU. In the S405 it will be paired to a 7450M, i'm guessing to make up for the loss of iGPU performance or lack of crossfire support from the A10? Like I notice before, there isn't a motherboard part number with the A10-4655M + 7450M listed. I too wish Lenovo would at least offer a 1600x900 optional display.

Thanks, added this and the K55N from Sears to the list as well! Sounds like the Asus was a better buy overall.

 

I wonder if the Asus K45DR will hit stateside. If it's priced like the k55N then I'll exchange for that.

 

Newegg.com - Acer Aspire V3-551G-7696 Notebook AMD A-Series A6-4400M(2.70GHz) 15.6" 4GB Memory 500GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi AMD Radeon HD 7670M
OP I didn't see this one on the list. it may be essentially same as another? dedicated 7670M w/ A6-4400M @460.
cruddy display, of course.

 

Thanks for finding this, I added it to the list. This one is different in that it has a dGPU and the other Aspires don't. Good price too.

 

They aren't manufactured yet I guess...

What I expected from the announcement of the A10-4655m in July (as I remember right) was to become the first real competitor in the space of Dell XPS13 or similar Ultrabooks, but I'm still waiting to see such product even at a premium price with AMD APU inside almost two months later.

 

Benchmarks of the Samsung NP355V4.

Forum thread with opinions about the notebook.
It seems that the product as a crappy screen (page 7 and 9). Excluding that it seems to be a great product for the price.

 

Wow! Quite some 3dmark performance for the buck...
Thanks for the heads-up!
Now we have to sart praying for a 13.3 Samsung with a PLS screen + backlit keyboard and I'll be happy to pay up to 1k for this thing.... But it seems every manufacturer thinks AMD = crap subpar lappies for the third world....
Btw... Crappy screen = NO BUY for me from now on.... We can't have NEXUS with a 7 inch 1280 x 800 IPS screen for 200 USD while we have to pay 1000+USD and STILL get TN crap in the laptop world... Unacceptable.

 

DITTO!!

so infuriating.... my wife's Galaxy handset looks better than my thinkpad.. [but I can hookup a monitor and go 1080P high def videos/sports/etc!! haha]

 

Very difficult to find information on the trinity notebooks, thanks for this thread.
Back to school shopping for my boys, university and high school.
Found the Samsung 13.3" AMD Dual-Core A6-4455M Laptop (NP535U3C-A01CA) for $499 - much cheaper than other Intel ultrabooks in Canada.
Samsung 13.3" AMD Dual-Core A6-4455M Laptop (NP535U3C-A01CA) - Brown : 13" & Smaller Laptops - Future Shop

A little concerned about the reviews indicate heat problems such as below.
This lap top heats up to incredible temperatures in a matter of about 5 minutes of turning it on. When browsing on google chrome for 10 minutes the keyboard became very warm and bottom of the lap top was too hot to touch

 

The review of the same laptop by Notebookcheck.net doesn't seem to indicate any overheating problems.

It seems it may get a bit warmer to the touch but not overall. Did you do any tests with Furmark to see if your unit overheats?
If it does then you should try to change by a different one because it may be a defective unit.

 

Gaugamela - the Notebookcheck review is a different model.

The 535U3C is the ultra thin one (that apparently overheats). 535U4C is the slighty fatter one with an optical drive and.