Upgrading my weak Trinity Laptop with the strongest AMD A10-5750M ES Richland APU

Thank you for the encouraging words. I'm also in the process of upgrading my older Acer Athlon II P340 laptop with a Phenom II X4 N950, but due to the holiday season delay, the cpu has yet to reach me from the Chinese ebay seller. With that Acer laptop I choose a saver upgrade, meaning that the new cpu N950 is in fact written as compatible in the laptop service manual. However, I have yet to find the Toshiba service manual -most likely will not- so I googled for Toshiba laptops with the same form factor/body and off course cpu family. I found that there are similar Toshiba laptops boasting the Trinity A10-4600M cpu. Although price have dropped to sub $150 for the 'regular' A10-5750M, and significantly lower for A10-4600M, yes, I'm still worried about the 'bios microcode' thingy..

 

as far as compatibility is concerned some users have stated that it is possible to install the A10 5750m if you change a setting regarding "UEFI" in bios.

Knowing this I decided to just use the 4600m since i didnt want to re install windows ( changing that setting affects the OS installed on the HDD is what Ive heard )

The real problem is driver support but if u can pick up that cpu and return it for a refund i say do it XD

 

hi guys thanks for all the hardwork . i have a hp dv7 7121nr it has the a8 4500 in it do you think a a10 5750 would work ? or go with a a10 4600 i know this laptop did come with a a1- 4600m in it ? has anyone upgraded this model ?

 

Hi!

I have been reading posts written here for a couple of months now.

As agreed with Atom Ant people do make mistakes when making CPU upgrades. Laptops are the hardest to upgrade.

I have worked with computers for a long time.

Here are some tips i wanted to share after reading all posts here:

1. Do not put alcohol into your CPU socket! Alcohol often contains a lot of water. Instead use purified petroleum benzin. It dries up fast. It is also good for dissolving thermal paste etc. Purified petroleum benzin can be bought from any pharmacy in my country. No prescription needed, costs 3 Euros a bottle.

I use it to dissolve old stickers from LP covers (when i am not cleaning CPU:s and sockets).

2. After reading reading about A10-CPU:s im not sure if they have an issue BUT adding thermal paste can have unexpected issues. I learned this with some older MSI-based laptops first hand how professional "Silver thermal paste" made the notebooks seem bricked. Im afraid i have forgotten the maker of the silver paste and was it the CPU and/or GPU core that had to have the basic "bulk white thermal paste" but the results where super simple. Silver paste--> no boot, standard paste and all is ok. I stopped professionally fixing computers in 2008 so im not shure about the latest issues of cpu pastes etc.

I´ll give a few good tips for a successful upgrade:

1. Don´t panic ever. Patience.
2. Don´t rush things. Laptops can be tricky to open etc. Search youtube for a disassembly videos of your laptop model.
3. Do your homework. Don´t ask about basic things. Learn them. That gives confidence not to mention you learn things.
4. Know your laptop model, CPU and RAM sockets, chipsets and upgrades by heart and learn about their limitations. With laptops BIOS upgrades can be very hard to get good information about but try nevertheless. Sometimes they give a big payout.
5. Never upgrade BIOS if nothing is wrong! There is more to lose than to gain when playing with BIOS upgrades. Although i prefer hacked bios files they also present the biggest risks in firmware upgrades.
6. Don´t do all your upgrades at once. Always do one step and then test out the results. Upgrade BIOS with your old "known to work" hardware setup. If the memory is changed test it with a "known to work" CPU/BIOS. If you run into problems it will be easier to troubleshoot a problem with less variables.
7. Learn and have fun. Most problems can be fixed. The more you run into problems the more you have to learn. Even if it means soldering a new integrated bios chip into to a running laptop (quite extreme mod-hack fixes).

That said if someone has a spare and is interested in selling a A10-4600M processor i would be interested in buying one. They are not so expensive on Ebay either but maybe someone has an unneeded CPU lying around.

After i get a new CPU i can give pointers about making the upgrade to a HP Pavillion G6 -based laptop.

Cheers,
Sal

 

Useful comment, thanks for sharing your experiences. I'll consider to use Purified petroleum benzin if it not smells too bad. Otherwise I'll stick with the 96% alcohol, it does not leave much moist at all.

 

I've succeeded in upgrading my old Acer from Athlon II P340 to Phenom II X4 N950 and now it's, not counting graphics, faster than my Toshiba with A6 4400M
Reading this excellent thread, I have no doubt that my Satellite L875D could be upgraded to A10 5750M. However, the price of said cpu being $150 something at the market, halted me from getting this upgrade and I bought the way cheaper A10 4600, which I jumped off ebay for less that fifty bucks. I'm sure I will surely miss the possible 10-25% increase in performance of the newer cpu, but it seems that going to A10 4600M is the most logical option for me at the moment.

Thank You all and will be reporting again as soon as the cpu arrives, which I hope will not be more than a month in shipment like the previous purchase

 

I've been out of the loop for over a year now. Upgraded my hp g6-2123us from a6 to an a10-4600, 8gb 1600mhz and SSD at that time and been pretty happy with it but always looking for more of course . Just saw this thread. So bottom line, is going from a 4600 to 5750 worth the jump or no?

 

Surprisingly, the A-4600m I ordered arrived 2 days ago, in just under 2 weeks in shipping Although I'm at the moment did not upgrade to Richland, I must confess that this thread has helped me a lot on the how-to, and again, thank you for the OP for putting up this amazing info-packed source :thumbsup: I can't say that I'm done though, yeah I'm still putting an eye over that A10-5750M, hoping it would pop somewhere with reasonable tag

Okay, I go from here:


To here:


I'ts running great under the hood now, installed it with Deep Cool Z5 paste, starting at 42°c on idle and got a solid 45°c flicking thru tons of Chrome tabs. I can't really hear the fan humming at this point. Adding up movie via media player got the fan wishpered at 50°c and playing the good old Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare with my max 1600x900 res. at normal settings will gives a darn good 60°c-68°c. Cranking up the game settings (including bumping up the graphics to 1300MHz via Overdrive) will make me see 75°c, without undervolting. All in all, its a pretty solid upgrade from the previous A-4400m and I'm very satisfied.

One curiosity though, It hovers at 2700MHz all four cores on heavy loads, and I rarely see this A-4600m reach that promised 3200MHz turbo, well maybe couple of times when I really-really watched the HWInfo64 ups and downs, but it does so with one or probably two cores, and within just a fraction of a second. Now, is it common?

 

Yes, that is very common for A10-4600M, they cannot hold the 3200MHz frequency. The A10-5750M can do more often, but they are also throttling...

 

Well, running four cores the whole time at 2.7GHz, I suppose that's still fair enough My bios have this 'multi core' option (on/off), tried to run single core only an it did run @3.2GHz all the time, but performance-wise it's just nothing compared to the 2.7GHz all core running.

 

Odd to see the 5750M not always faster then the 4600m especially when you consider the 1866 ram.

I recently upgraded my A8-4500m to the A10-4600m. I found one online for $45 shipped to my door. I was considering getting the 5750m but cheapest I found was $150. I figured the jump from the A8 400 more mhz and 128 shader cores was worth $45 but didn't think the jump to the highest A10 was worth $105 more dollars.

I am running 1333mhz CAS9 ram debating if it is even worth the money to upgraded to better memory since it seems to make a <10% difference.

 

i wish i knew isf this would work on my hp dv7 7121nr .........may just get the a10 4600m to replace my a8

 

O.K., I'm interested in upgrading the AMD A4-3300M dual-core processor in my HP Pavilion G7-1261nr to an AMD A10-4600M quad-core unit, and from what I'm getting by reading these posts here is that I CAN do that - am I correct? If not, what is the best processor I can use in that laptop, without upgrading the motherboard?

Thanks,

Dennis

 

i would like to know to . if i go to a a10-4600m i would like to put my a8-4500m in to my wifes hp with a a4-3300m

 

a4-3300m is Llano, an older generation and there won't work a Trinity processor. For her the best processor is the A8-3550MX. However in your laptop you can go ahead with A10-4600M or even with A10-5750M.

 

First of all I'd like to say, AA - YOU are a national treasure :thumbsup:

I'm making the wild & unfounded assumption that the A8-4500m falls in the midst of these you tested. In your experience, is there anything Surprising about A8-4500m's performance - either way? all other things being neutral as you have tried to work here?

I have had several of the A10-4600m models and A8 and A6 models come through my hands. The A6 ones, perceptually, are noticeably more "paced" or measured in how it responds to loading of user tasks [not benchmarks, just the common things that people do to torture their laptops to slow and painful deaths]. On the other hand in my experience I can hardly tell a diff between the A8 populated units and the A10's, though it is clear from what benchmarks I've seen on the twain.

what's the scoop? one reason for asking [since they are out of date now] is there are still a lot of them on the 'super clean' aftermarket and even in the retails. also the part itself gets pulled and show up on Ebay for a very low price..... [$15-20]

 

Thanks cognus for your comment, you probably also have great experience with these APUs .
Anyway as you also know between A6, A8, A10 the main difference is the A6 running with two CPU cores, while the higher ones with twice as many. For everyday task A6 will do just good, but once we encoding a video or run similar intensive CPU task the 4 cores versions are noticeably faster. At GPU side obviously the higher always better. I would say if someone does not play games, than A8 is the gold way, hence they lot cheaper as the A10 ones and offer 4 cores.

 

atom ant
thank you for all the work you have done !!!
if you have anymore benchmarks you did i would be very much love to see them. i am trying to figure out if i am going to go for the a10 4600 or the a10 5750 .i have a dv7 7121nr with a a8-4500 now .in some of your benchmarks the a10 4600 did better .i play alot of titanfall now and i read its based off cod2 alot . would you happen to play titanfall on your a10 5750m ?

 

svper what kinda of dif did you notice going from the a8 4500m to the a10 4600m ? i am leaning that way myself .

 

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to keep this tread going

 

Alright So I have an HP G6-2244nr laptop that originally came with an A6 Processor in it, I upgraded it to a A10-4600M And noticed a huge difference for only $40 now ive upgraded it to A A10-5750M And My WEI Scored have dropped quite abit, the only thing that changed between the 4600M and the 5750 is I also added in a 240GB SSD. anyone have any idea why Performance would drop so significantly? I will be adding 2X8GB 1866 Memory to see if this helps from my Current 8GB 1600MHz memory.
Also When I changed to the A10-5750 I DID NOT do a clean windows install after installing it

 

the CPU or the GPU performance dropped? I assume the GPU since that dropped for me as well in many cases. It is because the A10-5750M has factory overclocked GPU and cannot fit into the 35W TDP limit, therefore the GPU will throttle and runs slower as the A10-4600M GPU.

 

Ant, how does old Llano CPU's overclocked to 2.3/2.4Ghz compare to 4600m or even 5750m? Does it worth upgrading at all or my old K53 still isnt for throwing?

 

Hi. I have HP g4 2072la. Can i upgrade from A8 4500m to A105750m? Do i need a new bios?
Thx

 

Very interesting news about Kaveri APU: http://wccftech.com/amd-mobile-kaveri-a10-7300-spotted-hp-envy/
This laptop can use Richland and Kaveri within the same motherboard, as I understood. Does it mean that we also can use Kaveri in a Trinity laptop? That should be great upgrade.

 

I guess someone have to try !

 

Hi Atom Ant, I have a HP Probook 4545s, and I want to upgrade the APU in it.

I would go with the AMD A8-5550M since it has good benchmarks, but it's a Richland processor, my Probook uses a Trinity based A4-4300M, so would I have to use a Trinity processor like the A10-4600M when I upgrade?

Also, would there be any other steps I would have to take before upgrading the APU like installing drivers, modifying bios, etc?

I just want to make sure that I don't turn my laptop into a paperweight

Thank you in advance for any help you can give

 

Almost 7 months visiting this thread and I still feel very helped. My Toshiba L875D is running absolutely great with the upgraded A10 4600M for months now.

 

Hi Atom Ant,

are you going to sell somedays your a8 5550m es? Or maybe you know where to get one? I have searched all the network and haven't found yet any es for notebooks.

 

A 2.3 ghz llano is a decent processor, especially if you undervolt it as well. Did your k53 come with discrete graphics, and can you force it to use the discrete graphics?

 

It came with HD 6650m 1gb which is basically 7670m , so isnt that bad for doing this and that.

 

I have an hp pavilion g7-2111nr, and I cant seem to get the amd a6-5350m to work. everytime I turn on the computer, it is only black screen and the fan is just running. I am currently using the older a6-4400m, which is something like you did, go from trinity to richland, but it is not working. I have bios update f 26, and I cant get f 27. at all. any help would be great

 

I've got a deal for A10-5750M ES and Im about to replace my HP ProBook 455's A8-4500M. Is there something I need to know? And is the iGPU working in these ES procs?

 

Anyone know if you can swap Richland APUs with Kaveri?

There was a HP laptop where they allowed you to pick an A4 Kaveri, A6 Kaveri, or A8 Richland. I do believe the APUs are soldered though.

 

Well if you are talking to me, I found a comprehensive upgrade/repair sheet for my notebook and all richland and trinity apus are listed there. So I'm exactly like the author of the thread, "Upgrading my weak Trinity Laptop with the strongest AMD A10-5750M ES Richland APU"

 

2 questions:
i have seen by myself that an A8-4500m with a hd7670m is running games faster than a A8-4500m alone. dual graphics were disabled.
could this mean that the integrated hd7640g is using the 7670m's Memory?
anyone nows if this is the case?

2.nd question:
anyone knows if it's useful to upgrade from an A8-4500m to a A10-4600m(60€ or A10-5750m(100€ ?
i can't find Benchmark comparisons.
thx in advance.

 

@Atom Ant i have a question. The a10-5750m can handle more over 3.2ghz? Do you test? SORRY ABOUT MY ENGLISH. Answer me please.

 

I am loving this thread. I have an AMD llano a8 3500 and another laptop with a trinity a6 4400 which I will be upgrading to the a10 4600. For a $400 laptop and a extra $30 for the CPU and extra 4gb stick this will be a smoking laptop. And I'll throw a Samsung ssd in there. Now we are good. Question is. Windows 8 has security measures when a CPU is changed it won't activate. Anyone faced this issue?

 

No, the regular one do not even make constant 3.2 GHz.

 

Yeah, but ES version is as overclockeable as desktop CPU.

3.6GHz @1.2V
3.8GHz @1.3V HIGH Temperature.
4,5GHz @1.4V EXTREMELY HIGH Temperature.
In theory 5GHz @1,45V, possible only with external super cooler which blows underneath and with hole in plastic bottom.
Tested by 1 guy with override.

BTW, I will quote myself what I found from the same guy

 

I wonder if there are going to be any mobile Kaveri ES?...

The only issue with a overclockable Kaveri is that it's built on a silicon process optimized for low power consumption, not high clock rates. It's why the mobile Kaveri has increased clock rate over mobile Richland while desktop Kaveri's clock rate was reduced.

 

No, unless some of the current owner get tired of it and selling it.

 

Get an A10-5750M, it should work without an issue unless your laptop BIOS causes one, it may have less than 10% improvement in clocks but the much better turbo from lower temps make it about 20% faster.

 

There's also 5550M ES in the marketplace if someone of you is interested

 

Today received my 5750ES, installed it and undervolted it. got no time to overclock but soon. Everything went smooth, even got cooler cpu, probably my remaining paste from Cooler Master TX3 gave a nice difference. I cant hide my happiness.

There are still guys who are selling 5750ES cpus, I got mine for 62$, search the 'aliexpress' site, 5750es is even cheaper that 5750m now but there are a few remaining so be fast with your orders if you want one in your notebook.

 

Thanks for the reply. I would upgrade to the 5750 but since I don't know whether or not the motherboard will support it since there's a couple posts of others that weren't able to boot up. But I'm guessing the 4600 should good enough. It's an HP G7 2340DX, I've looked at the service document and it says it supported the 4600 so I'd rather be safe than drop about $90 on a CPU and later find out it isn't supported by my bios. Besides I'll be throwing an SSD in there and upping the ram to 8GB so I should see some considerable improvement even if it doesn't support sata 3 and with almost 2 year old CPU. My llano A8 is doing just fine on my DV6 as well. I've overclocked it to 3.0ghz and temps seem to hover around 80°C mark. Man, I tell you, these AMD CPU are tough. With many overheating moments and the computer shutting itself down it still performs like a champ. I'm expecting the same from this 4600 which is out for delivery today. Can't wait. Thanks

 

Does anyone know, how to increase the voltage on A-10 5750m ES above 1.2125v?

I tried overclocking it to 3.7 Ghz, but I cannot increase the voltage above 1.2125v without getting all freqiencies on 4 cores drop to 2000-2100 mhz.

I want to increase the voltage to make the CPU stable on 3.7 Ghz, so far on my GX60 the highest stable OC I could get is 3.6 Ghz on 1.2125v. There is still temp room for OC, but like I said, when I increase the voltage above 1.2125v the frequencies just drop to 2000-2100 mhz no matter what.

Currently I can set it to 3.7 Ghz on 1.2125v, but after w while the system crashes, this calls for more voltage on the CPU witch I cannot boost in OverDrive.

Atom Ant,

do you have any idea what could be wrong?

 

Has anyone gotten a non-overclockable a10-5750m es, I bought one from china for my hp envy 15z-j000 but I can't overclock for hell. I'm using amdmsrtweaker v1.1 and amd overdrive. Every piece of software says its a a10-5750m es.

 

This is a problem with overdrive that the maximum overclock is 3.6ghz in that processor, you need to try with pscheck. With pscheck you will can to overclock over @4ghz depending only in temp, like people in other forums. You need to disable also powernow in bios (you dont need the unlocked bios) to prevent the up and down frecuencys. The only problem in pscheck is that you need to install windows 7/8/8.1 in legacy mode, with uefi mode the program dont work. If you have an installation of windows 8/8.1 with uefi and you dont want to format again and install in legacy bios mode, you can follow the guide on the link to convert gpt partition to mbr without loss data. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/kb/article.php?id=580 . Im waiting my 5750es for my gx70 from china, and i want to see your tutorial for mounting and overclocking. Thanks and i hope my advices helps you.

 

This is vary simple. Just use Baredite to avoid TDP limitation and then it works perfectly even at 1,5v