Upgrading my weak Trinity Laptop with the strongest AMD A10-5750M ES Richland APU

Maybe Kaveri ES will be available some day. But it really doesn't make any sense at all. There is so little performance difference between Richland/Kaveri cores! HSA is really pure marketing and HSA features will not be usefull for real world applications in next 5-6 years exept some vary specific applications. Do not expect better overclocking potential from Kaveri. Max. difference will be no more than 10% in max. performace after overclocking, but the price will be more aggressive. If you really need real performance for you laptop buy intel core i7 Hasswell with 8 threads. It is expensive but powerfull.

 

It is not about you CPU it is about software. 1. Use Windows only in lagecy mode. 2. Disable Turbo Core and it works perfectly. But remember you laptop has very weak cooling system. Maybe there is no need to push it over 3,6-3.7 Ghz.

 

I really don't understand what is the problem. PSscheck is terrible. Overdrive can overclock the cpu up to its limits 6300mhz. Everything works perfect with AMD Overdrive. Where is the problem? Why it doesn't work for you correctly?

 

Anyway i decided to sell my MSI GX60 on Ebay. It is powerfull enough after overclocking for gaming but not as strong as intel core i7 haswell with 8 threads and i need it for programming and compilation not for gaming and the only way to do it more or less compfortable is to use top intel/nvidia combination. I add some pictures on ebay to show how far it can go after overclocking with cooling system modification i made. It is a real gaming machine but not a workstation. All overclocking has been made with AMD Overdrive + Baredite to avoid TDP limitation. Very good cooling modification for the laptop with a heatsink from MSI GT60 and additional heatsinks for GPU and CPU and 100% unlocked BIOS. Now the laptop is perfectly optimized for gaming, but for workstation level is anyway not powerfull enough. The best stable result is 4,7 Ghz. Not bad for a laptop. Now it is probably the best Laptop with 4 threads CPU on the market.

 

So I've been trawling the net for a while now and found this thread must say it is the most informative of anything out there for my needs... I have been looking to try and upgrade my laptop CPU but have not been able to find any kind of information relating to it's motherboard and what it can handle.
My setup currently is :
Model: HP G6-2213sa
AMD A8-4500M 1.9GHz Quad with AMD Radeon HD 7640G
Trinity Architecture
BIOS: Insyde - F.26 - 02/21/2013
8GB DDR3-1614 - Dual Channel
Crucial CT256MX100SSD1 256GB MX100
8800mAh - 12 Cell Battery
Windows 8.1 x64

Would like to know if possible what's the fastest Chip I could throw in it that has an integrated GPU and is it just a case of swapping it out and powering up...?

Also someone did post a link to a BIOS Update to F.27 earlier in this thread... Just wanted to say the link appears to be broken and doesn't work any more, don't suppose someone could repost it could they...?

Thanks in advance for any info you could provide

 

A10-4600M
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I think he should not have problem to use A10-5750M or? I believe I had similar laptop...

 

You can try a10 or a8 es CPU trinity or richland. They will work fine and you can always set higher clocks. But it will not make your laptop ready for the latest games or heavy applications. It has always been a low end notebook for some multimedia and serfing the web. Don't expect to much.

 

if anyone wants to try 5550m unlocked, i have one.

 

hi everyone i have a dv7 7121nr has anyone used the a10-5750m in this model and did it work ? thanks

 

As a thought would anyone know if it possible to run one of the faster 65w A10 processors in in place of the AMD A8-4500M which I know is a 35w... What would the implications be...?

 

Different pin layout and size, no bios support. Someone should try a 35W Kaveri APU, that is might working.

 

Ok so I have been looking at Aliexpress for awhile now and I have heard a raft of crap about them and their reliability. Has anyone here used them? They have really good prices on A10-5750m ES's. I have wanted to swap my 4600m for awhile now and for the price that Aliexpress has them I can. I was simply going to use a prepaid card but before I just throw money away I thought I would see if any one else had ever used them.

 

Where heard you anything about their realibity? If they die, probably because of too much overvolting and heating.

 

I think he was referring to the seller and not the chip, though I could be mistaken.


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Yeah the seller. Sorry I wasn't clear I'm just hoping for another opinion before I throw money away.

 

I buy lots and lots of stuff on Taobao.com, which is basically the domestic version of Aliexpress. You aren't throwing your money away when you buy from sellers on there, trust me. The biggest problems I have encountered are that sometimes you might pay for an ES chip, and then the seller will say, eh, how about I send you the same chip, but an non-ES version? No thanks.... Pay with a credit card, because then you will get a refund if it comes to that. If you pay with a debit card or do a bank transfer, a refund will be given as credit and it will be very hard to get cash back out of your Aliexpress account.

 

Want to thank Atom Ant and the others with regards to the Chip Upgrade advice...
Went with the A10-5750m... Found a new one on Ebay for a good price from a re-seller in the UK.
Arrived within a couple of days and was in the and powered up within the hour
As daft as it sounds this chip actually runs cooler than the original AMD A8-4500M that was in there, and my fan isn't working at full speed like it used to either... While checking the speeds using CPUz it's reporting the chip running @ 3.5GHz most the time, even while idle (This makes me happy)

Playing Skyrim maxed out with a mass of mods uploaded doesn't even make it break into a sweat...

My NEW setup is now :
Model: HP G6-2213sa (Upgraded)
AMD A10-5750M 2.5GHz Quad with AMD Radeon HD 8650G
Trinity Architecture
BIOS: Insyde - F.26 - 02/21/2013
8GB DDR3-1614 - Dual Channel
Crucial CT256MX100SSD1 256GB MX100
8800mAh - 12 Cell Battery
Windows 8.1 x64

 

I've recently upgraded a Samsung NP355V5C - A06UK laptop with an A6-4400M to a 5750M APU . Happy enough with the performance.
I bought some Gskill Ripjaws 1866mhz ram however it is stuck running at 1600mhz which is annoying.
It has the latest bios (P07ABF) installed but there are no options to tweak the memory settings in there and no other way that I know of.

*It's 1866mhz ddr3L and the 5750M supports 1866 ram at 1.5v apparently so that's probably what the problem is.

 

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Has anyone with an HP ProBook 6475b successfully switched over from a Trinity APU to a Richland APU? Over a year ago I tried but unsuccessfully had to revert back to using Trinity APUs.

Originally my HP ProBook 6475b shipped with what then seemed like an anemic and slow A6-4000M. Turns out the Seagate Momentous 5400 RPM 7 MM SATA III HDD was the true culprit in comparison to the dual-core APU (I should've known better). Since then, I have been able to happily operate the A6-4400M at approximately 3.2 GHz using BAR-Edit without any problems. At this locked frequency CPU performance, and to a certain extent GPU performance, is quite satisfactory. Using some spare parts I had lying around, admittedly catching dust, I coupled the modular dual-core with, by today's standards an ancient SATA II dinosaur, a Samsung 470 128 GB SSD, 2x4 GB of ADATA 1.5 V 1600 CL11 DDR3 SDRAM, and, to round things off, a copy of Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit for good measure. This combination now provides me with a very enjoyable, affordable, reasonably snappy budget system as a backup device for when current my main rig (Acer Aspire V5-122P) is too preoccupied with at the moment.

Next, I replaced the surprisingly satisfying 3.2 GHz A6-4400M with a more well-equipped A10-4600M. I figured, moar CPU and GPU cores, oh yeah come to poppa! Now, let's see what BAR-Edit can do to this quad core and its clocks. While it ran much better and predictably than the stock fluctuating frequencies, I was "only" able to operate it at a solid 2.7 GHz. Not bad at all but 500 MHz short of the A6-4000M. Yeah yeah, I know what you're going to say; more cores, more heat, less speed. I am happy but not fully satisfied as I know and have witnessed the Richland A10-5750M OEM or ES QS can operate at 3.2-3.5 GHz using the same BAR-Edit. Now if could just get my hands on some ES QS APUs.

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Which is better and why?

A6-4400M, dual-core, 192 GPU @ 3.2 GHz (not sure on L2 cache size, I'll have to switch back to check)
A10-4600M, quad-core, 384 GPU @ 2.7 GHz (my Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit Task Manager shows L2 cache: 8 MB)


Now I'm itching to venture into trying ES QS Richland and Trinity APUs once again. I have found A10-4600M ES QS and A10-5750M ES QS for roughly $26 each and its cheap enough for me that if the ES QS Richland APU does not work I can at least chuck it onto eBay and sell it whilst keeping the ES QS Trinity APU answering my own question once and forever while utilizing the best possible compatible APU in my 6475b!

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Thanks guys for the updates, glad it working out for more and more of you! Hope David will manage this time too, A10-4600M ES QS sounds interesting .

From the two, the above one probably faster in single treated programs and in general feeling of using windows?

 

Out of curiosity, what is the best 14" or smaller AMD notebook with upgradeable-to-the-top-APU?

 

Thanks to your green light I did purchase an ES A10-5750m from Aliexpress for the amazing price of $26!. It took about two weeks to come in and I just got around to installing it. It runs great so far. Thank you very much for your help.

For everyone else out there I am running it in an acer V3-551G-X419 with Win 8.1 and 8GB 1600Mhz ADATA memory. Unfortunately I have had a bit of a reduction in performance when running the 8650G compared to the 7669G in Dual Graphics mode with the 2GB 7670m that is in the laptop. However this was before I cleared the Drivers and I was only able to test Skyrim. I will probably fiddle around with downclocking the APU graphics as I wanted it predominantly for the CPU performance anyway. I have already tried to overclock the 7670m to mostly no avail. very very small gains with MSI afterburner.
All in all though I got well more that what I paid for thanks for all of the help all and I will update Crossfire results When I get them improved

Update: Newest fully wiped drivers fixed it right up. Skyrim got a boost of around 4-10 frames and Dragon Age Inquisition got a boost of 5-20 frames still some frame pacing issues but overall awsome! and for just 26$ Note I am also using the Catalyst Control Center AMD Overdrive and running at 3.2 Ghz @1.125v(default) this has likely contributed greatly to the games as well.

 

HP Pavilion G4

 

FYI

HP Probook 4545s ( bios F.50 ) boots fine with ES/QS A10-5750M . Clean drivers required, removal of HP assistant recommended

Great, inspirational post. Thanks

 

Thanks a lot for this info.
I've got a ProBook 4545s with an A4-4300M. I've upgraded to SSD and more RAM. Now (out of curiosity) I want to see what a new APU would do for me.

I have a couple of questions though:
- It isn't soldered, right? So it's easy interchangeable?
- BIOS is already upgraded to F.50, so the rest should be pretty much "plug and play"?
- Are there different A10-5750M? Or can I buy any, if it says this model and is FS1r2?

Sorry for all the questions, but I have never changed CPU before... but it's time to try

 

That's the exact CPU I have upgraded my laptop from.
The CPU isn't soldered and the access to CPU in 4545s is just great - http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalciti...iCountry/disassembly_notebo_2012611222155.pdf
(you can end your reading on page 4 )

Thermal control works fine on the QS I have, performance wise should not be different than retail a10-5750m.
No plans to overclock since I saw how thin the fan is, I do not want to kill it, 2 extra cores or threads will suffice.
So far so good, no crashes or BSODs, everything works, 'browsing' temps are fine - 35-45 degrees.
I have used the very inexpensive Arctic Ceramique 2

 

Excellent answer... it just encourages me to continue and buy the cpu upgrade.

Thank you very much ☺

 

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Nice tread AA! Just. . . been following and would like to continue

 

Hi every one ! First, sorry for my english : I'm french
And I hardly find topic about upgrading AMD APU... So I decided to register here to learn more and contribute a little

I have a HP notebook g7-2302sf with A4-4300m and I want to upgrade it to A10-5750m, not particulary for gaming (I have a GTX980 for it) but just to learn how to and by the way, finish my notebook upgrade :
SSD : Sandisk Ultra plus 128GB,
RAM : Kingston DDR3L 2x4GB 1600Mhz CL9 1.35V
Thermal paste : Arctic Silver 5
(details are below)

But It's very difficult to find this APU here because there is no shipping from US and UK to France (ebay, amazon,...) However i found here a guy who sell this APU A10-5750m extracted from an MSI GX 60 for 60€ (about 66$ shipping included) and I will buy it soon.

I have a HP 184b Motherboard with F.28 bios version, and both A4-4300m and A10-5750m are FS1r2 socket (CPU Z is wrong I do not own A10 yet and I hope it's not FP2 socket too)

So according to what I read I think I will be able to upgrade it !

For information, this laptop g7-2302sf was sold in several website with the following indication : "2GB video memory dedicated" but it only have 512MB Somebody knows video memory of the HD8650G included in the A10-5750m APU ?

Thanks,

 

you probably have a 2GB 7670M dedicated card - change "GPU #0" on the right side screen (below "AMD Radeon Graphics" image) ------> "GPU #1"

The A10-4600M & A10-5750M both have 512mb of video memory.

The A10-5750M can use RAM @ 1866mhz
The A10-4600m can use RAM @ 1600mhz

 

Business class notebook with amd apu! This sounds amazing! I wish I would have did this intead of my Dell. I wouldn't mind upgrading the cpu a few more times to get a high end a10.

 

I'd love to see a top-AMD-APU-powered dual digitizer convertible, upgradeable to 2x16GB RAM. =\

 

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I faced the same problem and got sent some electronic waste. Fortunately, I have ordered two, from 2 different sellers, and one of them arrived intact. I have just checked and my 'good' seller no longer offers this item but I think, this should be a pretty good bet in case you won't find it decently priced on ebay http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...L2-Cache-2-5GHz-to-3-5GHz-A10/2029279002.html

There are plenty of thieves on aliexpress, not everyone is one , though

 

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I just ordered an A10-5750M ES QS from this guy:

http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6601686813.html?orderId=66740000625971

Is this guy okay? I hope I didn't make a mistake. It appears I can still cancel my order.

 

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Yeah, I ordered from this guy. I received the same super small chip as Liquid Cool did. Cancel your order before it is too late!

 

What's up Liquid Cool, good to see you back!

Unfortunately I cannot cancel the order anymore. I messaged the guy and told him to send me the "AMD A10-5750M ES QS CPU" and even provided a picture of it. If he sends me some tiny microchip that isn't what he claims he's selling then I'm putting in a complaint for a full refund.

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Well maybe I'm bitter but I gave up on trying to get the 5750m ES from aliexpress.
I am gonna settle for the normal one.
This screen cap says it all.

Hopefully you have better luck!

 

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Hi every one Me again with my HP g7-2302 and APU upgrade. But first I want to thank and reply to "itoffshore" --> I do not have GPU#1 and when I opened my laptop I did not see anything that could be a GPU...

So about the upgrade from A4-4300m to A10-5750m and as I said in my previous post, I ordered it for 60€ on ebay from a particular seller and it's a total success !!!
I managed to replace it very easily, I just had to re-install AMD catalyst drivers and here is the result :



Just on important thing, HP laptop are known to overheat : more than 120°C/250°F according to OCCT so my A4-4300m was volontary undercloked to 2.2Ghz which is enough for me and I do the same with A10-5750m but now I have 4 core instead of 2 and 3 times more shaders.

 

hi guys, I just bought a msi gx70 from ebay and I found this cpu.
Is it a ES version ??

 

Nope, looks like a 'normal' a10-5750m

 

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May be an ES since CPU-Z isn't detecting it correctly and it does say (ES)! Also try downloading AMD OverDrive and see if you can overclock it, I know you can overclock unlocked Desktop APUs with it but not sure about mobile ones, but the ES is unlocked too so you never know.