*HP 8710w Owners Lounge*

Half an hour of Skyrim:


These CPU temps are incredible...
GPU giving me same big temps it had before, so no change there. I might get myself some MX-4 later on down the line and try using that on the GPU, see if temps go lower.

 

Has anyone had trouble with ACPI.sys (system process) hogging up CPU after CPU upgrade?
I'm having this issue, and I can't find a solution to it...

 

Dammit, the 3600m started artefacting. Guess it's time to use the oven trick, hoping it will solve it.
If not, I need to find a way to get my hands on a 1600m, which has the benefit of not requiring the powermizer bypass to avoid crashes, which means I can finally move this laptop to linux.

I am so pissed off that there are no laptops with 17"-18.4" 1440p or 1200p monitors. The whole ing industry went backwards, and we have no way to just update the components within the laptop to the latest tech without sacrificing the monitor.

 

I have FX3600M myself don't have any troubles with drivers (forced medium mode in PowerMizer).

Well my NVS320M died some time ago think because of overheating.

About new laptops I don't agree with you. Look at Clevo or any other barebone systems, there are plenty of.

 

When it goes in P12 it BSODs, it's a known problem.

You can install a NV320M on a 8710w?

All clevo have 1080p or below displays. No 1200p, no 1440p.

If you're referring to upgradability, I don't know whether you can just take a model 2007 Clevo laptop, buy a 2014 mobo+cpu+ram+gpu laptop combo from Clevo and install it...

 

I know about it. NVS320M you can install 8710w/p BIOS'es are identical and VBIOS got 3 cards supported: NVS320M, FX1600M and FX3600M.

well, its truth but you can try to search, i'm sure there are some options for 1200p displays.

 

Hello fellow 8710w owners, I am thrilled to say I aquired a 8710w (T9500) recently, and look forward to using it. I want to upgrade the HDD to an SDD, do you have any advice on which SSD will work well with the 8710w ? I am leaning towards the 256GB Crucial M100 as it gives the most bang for my buck. I read the Samsung drives can cause some problems and the Intel drives are the safest (and most expensive) bet. So which SSD's work well your experience?

 

the best SSDs are intel 530/730

 

I would suggest looking at Sandisk Extreme II \ PRO - they are sustainably fast + should have around 0.128 Pb (128Tb) resource with 2K erase \ write cycles, while MX100 is at 0.072Pb (72Tb) though in theory that means writing about 40Gb per day during 5 years, still all these numbers are about the average failure rate %

 

God, I wish Professional Laptops had a standard for components, so I could just replace motherboard, cpu, ram and gpu on the 8710w now that it's dying.
I don't want to give up the 1920x1200 screen...

 

Question: does the 8710w BIOS support the FX570M? It comes from a 8510w, but I'm not sure if it can be installed on a 8710w.

 

no it doesnt.

it supports:

NVS320m
FX1600m
FX3600m

but you can try to integrate vBios somehow into HP compaq bios, though you will need to reverse-engineer it first

 

If I was able to do that I'd add support for far more recent, cooler and cheaper GPUs.
Thanks.

 

I'm using myself FX3600m and yeah it's very buggy and not the coolest videocard

shame nVidia abondoned it and not fixing bug in drivers on lowest frequency.

 

Do you know if there is there any other laptop with a 1920x1200 17" screen that has a MXM slot which can be populated with any GPU, possibly one of the recent ones?

 

I've checked current market and it's a shame most vendors just doing 1080p (

i think there is only HP 8740w and ASUS N750JK

but they are not cheap and knowing that HP whitelists specific hardware to be used with laptop and signing their BIOS'es with RSA not moving me towards buying anything off them :/

the best bet is to get some barebone system, e.g. some Clevo, where you can configure everything completely.

but they dont have 1200p (

 

Yeah, it's absurd. We have 4k 15" laptops, but no 17" or 18.4" high res screens.

 

indeed, stupid hype on tablets/convertible devices

 

Did you see this?

Panasonic Tablet | Business Tablets | Toughpad 4K Tablet

16:10!

I wonder if anyone will dare making a pro/gaming laptop with this screen, like the old HDX9000 Dragon.

 

Changed thermal paste on the 3600m with an artic silver 4 (thanks to @tifone7), and temps are now maxed at 83°C after 1 hour of Furmark!

Idle temps under 50°C (from 55°C+), and for now I have yet to have another artefacts/crash.

Hopefully it's gonna stay this way, since I don't have 100€ to replace my GPU atm.

 

Anyone tried installing the new Windows 10 on the laptop?

 

Finally got my SSD (crucial M4 256GB). The caddy works wonderfully with the Toshiba 400GB, so now I have a disk dedicated only to data!

Windows 10 installed, and seems to work pretty good. Had to fix the same powermizer issues, and used the nvidia drivers that came with windows update.
RMClock seems to have some issues with vcore, it shows me 1.0675 as MINIMUM, and I can't even go under 1.1375 without the system crashing.

Scaling works pretty well at 125%, and is surprisingly making the experience with using the laptop much more enjoyable. Can't wait for 18.4" 2160p screens!

 

http://puu.sh/cdciV/6b43e7d1af.png
Kind of disappointed by the SSD speed, since my main PC, with the same SSD does a lot more, at least in sequential.

 

no, never, tried. I thought it's in beta mode, no?

 

that's normal, there is a limit of SATAII, so don't expect very high speeds ..

tbh, I'd buy some Intel instead of Crucial they are much more reliable

 

What's kinda caddy you've got? One from newmodeus or different? Interesting to see what kinda speeds you're getting in caddy and if there is any lag/limit of the speeds.

 

Yep, but it's pretty damn fast, and seems to be working well.

Uh, I've got another M4 256GB in my main machine, and it's been working wonderfully for the last 3+ years.
Plus, I got this another m4 256GB for fairly cheap (80€ shipped) so it was worth it for sure.

2nd IDE to SATA Hard Disk Drive HDD caddy For HP Mobile Workstation 8710w 8510w | eBay
Speeds are kinda meh, though:

 

You're just stuck with BIOS/Windows limitation. Windows sets drive to force mdma2 mode because it's connected where CD-Rom should be.

I've fixed this, check here: DIY: Adding SSD or HDD storage using an optical bay caddy [ver 2.0]

You can either fix by patching MBR or just running my script.

 

Works, thank you:

 

Win 10 Build 9860 seems to work fine as well. Had a freeze because it reinstalled the nvidia drivers and had to redo the Powermizer procedure all over again, but aside from that seems to work.
And it's insanely fast.

I probably won't bother installing it on my main PC, but it's awesome on the laptop!

 

Crap, just realized: the screen overclock to 75hz was removed, and now I get black screen when I try to reinstate it. Dammit.

EDIT: nvm, it was just the nvidia custom res function being broken. CRU solved it.

 

how is your Windows 10 living?

I've just bought Samsung SSD Evo 840 Pro 512GB and thinking about installing either Linux or new Windows 10 to replace my current Windows 7 x64 Ultimate setup.

 

Hey guys, I want to upgrade my current Windows 7 Ultimate to Windows 8.1 on my 8710w but I can't find any official drivers from HP for the Quadro FX 3600M and I'm worried that the blue screens of death will return.

Known issue

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/516145/legacy/quadro-fx-3600m-problems

8710w + Win7 random freezing/black screens - HP Enterprise Business Community

Any ideas for drivers or a way to solve this problem?

thxxx

 

use nvidia powermizer manager to force specific video mode to avoid auto switching.

 

Thx mate, I had no idea about this :thumbsup:

Which settings should I use? Is there a guide or something that can help? Can I use even the latest Quadro FX 3600M drivers using nvidia powermizer manager?

edit: I used nvidia powermizer manager but I didnt like the higher temps so I'm wondering is it possible to use the latest given from HP drivers (186.24) to the windows 8.1 ?

 

Pretty awesome. The speed increase is noticeable, the system itself is very responsive, and the 150% DPI scaling finally works properly, which means the 17" 1920x1200 display can be used very comfortably for reading without eye strain.
And both Nspector's Multi Display Power Saver and RightMark CPU Clock (although the later shows the wrong vcore) work fine, so I don't have temperature issues.

Have you tried the EVO? I've read some people having issues with Samsung SSDs and HP 8710w...

 

Hi there. I know, I know... "I'm pulling dead body from the wardrobe" .

I have exactly the same problems with HP 8710p and SSD Samsung 850 Evo 250GB as below:

Similar issues were in #36 and #34 posts of this thread.

Does anybody have any solution on this? After reading this thread I can't find any rock solid solution. I don't think that this is controller overheat. This drive works OK on Lenovo T61. I have spent few nights solving this issue and generally I'm very pissed off... :/

EDIT:
Oh.. I forgot. It happens on Windows 7, 8.1 and brand new 10. Aghr...