*HP EliteBook 8460p Owners Lounge!*

fan is always on when plugged in but i cant hear it at all.
On the battery it goes in bursts when it needs to cool down. This is for the 8560p Im guessing hte 8460p is the same thing.

Curious about the screen also. How is the veiwing angle. Other reports/reviews dont really mention the contrast which I assume is decent but not great but the main gripe is the vertical viewing angle.

 

Forgive my naivete, I understand that when ordering a SSD for the 8460p, I need to select a SATA II drive, but do I need to worry about 3Gps vs 6 Gbps?

 

Not really. Only the newest SSDs are capable to reach that limit when transfering big files, while most of the reading/writing activity is random.
Thus, you could measure a difference, but you won't really realize this in daily work.

Here you can take a look.

 

Is quadcore still not available in Europe?

 

Love my ssd. Best upgrade I did. It's a very noticeable difference even during daily work. ssd = pure awesomeness

 

I think nobody get it in US...

I ordered one with i7 2720QM, but get email from HP about my custom order will be delayed.

 

What about bus ? Can it potentially support SATA III ? Did you run something like HWiNFO32 to check it ?
P.S: this motherboard can be running 2 SATA III + 4 SATA II connections, or just 6 SATA II connections... depend of HP customization of the chipset.

 

It looks like 2560p is ready. I find it very attractive

 

May 09 2011 : get email from HP. Finally HP get 2720QM (and 2630QM) OEM's and start building QM CPU laptops for US customers.

I think non-US sites will be updated soon to include QM CPU options.

P.S: Maybe delayed in release of 8460w was related to QM CPU absence at HP ?

 

Sounds good allthough I think I will end up with a W520 FHD if my shop can get it cheap enough else I think this is going to be it.

 

What happened to your review you promised?

Very interested in your opinion on the screen since Yoshimeow called it poor.

I get my similar order on Wednesday according to tracking.

 

yes what happened to your review????
also Duffin I never personally saw the 8460p screen. I changed it last second and they shipped me the 8560p while canceling the 8460p shipment.
The screen I saw was the 8440p and that one was definitely poor. It was another memeber on here who returned their laptop cause they couldnt stand the screen.

Can someone else at least take some pictures of the screen or comment on it for those of you that have the 8460p?

Been using the 8560p and loving it more each day. The 6.3 pounds isnt too heavy to lug around for the most part. Dont want to be carrying it all day but to and from the office and to meeting rooms and the occasional business trip is fine.

 

You duped me! I cancelled the 8460p thinking you didn't like it. As luck would have it, somehow it didnt cancel and it shows up this Friday and can be returned.

 

haha I didnt dupe you. . You jsut misread I what I wrote. There was another user or maybe even two users that returned it and called the screen crap. From the pics it doesnt look like crap but I think some professional reviews have confirmed the vertical viewing angle is pretty bad.

Don't like the 8560p? Didnt want the bigger model at first also but now I actually like it. I like looking at a big screen when i'm doing work away from the docking station. Easier on the eyes and it turns out 6.3 pounds isnt that heavy. If I had to travel a lot I'd get the 8460p though if it has a decent screen.

 

haha. Yoshi, your review is what tipped the scale for me in terms of going with the 8560, though I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I have to say though, after looking at 14" screen it just looks too small to really enjoy a movie or put things side by side. Though I look forward to hearing about the screen. I posted in Yoshi's review, there is a 10 degree difference between the 8460 and 8560 in the vertical viewing angle from the top..

By the way do you know if there are stores in NYC that carry the Elitebook line? I'm going to do a CTO but I would like to get hands on with them first to really my the determination about size.

 

Confused - do you have the 8460p in hand? If so, what specs and what maker of the screen?

 

Hi guys.

sorry for my delay with the review of the 8460p.
I was really busy at work...

but now, here it is:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-business-class-notebooks/577467-hp-elitebook-8460p.html

 

This is a great review. Thanks!

Now I wonder what the real life gains would between a i7M vs i7QM CPU.

 

here is a professional review of the 8460p on the lower res screen
It's also AU Optronics screen. They rated it as the second worst screen they have ever seen. Looks like the 1600 x 900 one is better tho from users here
AnandTech - HP EliteBook 8460p: Everything But The Screen

 

Thanks for posting.

I don't understand why these professional reviewers are not requesting to test the higher rez display if 14" notebooks are notorious for poor displays. Strange that Lenovo can put an IPS display in a 12.5" notebook, but no manufacturer is doing this for the 14" class.

I also am hedging that the new 1" tall ProBook 5330m has the same poor display.

 

nope it seems like its the 14 inch that has the highest chance of a bad display. Consumers all want 15 inch displays so the 15 inch market has nice display. THe 13 inch and smaller has its own consumer market in tablets/portable notebooks. Macbook 13 has a great display. Seems like the most unpopular size is the 14 inch market which is why I guess manufacturers dont focus on this segment.
I read the 5330m has a decent display. Average is what I read on the first hands on.

 

on another note I love my 15inch 8560p. I played around with the color settings and it's almost on par with the 15inch macbook in terms of color. Great contrast/color, brightness and clarity. One area where I almost have it ranked above the MBP is there is no glare on the matte screen. It's definitely one of the better displays now. I compared it with other 15inch notebooks around the office and other than the lenovo high gamut displays this one is the best i've seen. So I'm pretty happy I got the 15" version. Although the 14 inch seems decent on the 1600 x 900 res. Hard to tell since the person that reviewed it didnt take very nice pics of the screen. But you can see from my review the screen is definitely on par with the MBP and that was before I tweaked with the settings.

* Just uploaded new pics of the 8560p screen http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...tebook-8560p-owners-lounge-7.html#post7479194 love my display!!

 

Oh well, the 1366x768 screen of the 8460p is one of the worse ever:

AnandTech - HP EliteBook 8460p: Everything But The Screen

I hope they test the 1600x900 screen, it must be better.

 

yup I posted this about 4 posts above yours..
Yes the screen is crap on the lower res... if ur getting the 8460p id take my chances on the 1600 x 900 screen

 

Where did you read this?

 

Hands On With the HP ProBook 5330m | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

"The 13.3-inch widescreen is average in terms of brightness and resolution (1,366-by-768), although few will offer a higher resolution at this screen size. "

 

Duffin,

I don't have one yet. I pulled the info out of the HP maintenance manuals:

8460p HD+ Monitor:

8560p HD+ Monitor

 

i wouldnt trust those maintenance numbers. can you pull one up for lower 1366 resolution ? curious to see what HP claims versus that new view that came out saying its the most horrible screen ever

 

haha. By the way. These specs are shared with the Probook 6460 and 6560...
8460p:

What is SVA??

8560p:

 

thanks josh,
yeah looks like HP just uses typical avg numbers. THis is a huge contradiction from the andtech reports which show viewing angles are horrendous and the contrast is well below 200:1 not the 300:1 HP claims.

oh well I personally love my screen on my 8560p.

 

I think the screen is functional, except for the vertical angles. N.b., I had the higher res screen, and it doesn't help all that much over the baseline. So either decide you can live with it or not, but don't believe the higher res screen is a different beast that will solve all the problems. Except for the screen and the fan, it's a great machine.

 

I got my 8460p tonight and I can't figure out how to make the adjustments to improve the 1600x900 screen out of the box. Wasn't there a power adjustment on the graphic card? I guess I have to dig into the threads to find it.

 

right click on the desk top and click on the catalyst control. Its one of the adjustments called vari-bright.. uncheck that.. but that only effects the screen when running on batteries. Also disable the ambient light sensor. So what is your opinion of the screen? Anything close to my pics I posted in the 8560p thread?

 

Thanks. I found these items.

I have the i72620m, 1600x900, Radeon, 6 cell, Centro-N.

I like this keyboard and overall size much better than 15 MBP. I'm 6' 3" with big hands and type with ease. It's slightly heavier than I thought it would be and ok, but overall, great size. I don't get why there is no backlit keyboard.

Screen: I am ok with horizontal angles. I played with the Catalyst color controls and got color, brightness and saturation to a satisfactory level in the viewing sweet-spot. But the vertical viewing angles are not good -- the sweet spot is so small. I find I have to push back the screen farther away than usual. I like to be able to have a more upright laptop screen. Really small text like in the bing tool bar icons (out of the box) are smudgy.

I am really bummed about the screen because overall, this could be a killer laptop if it weren't for the screen. Really makes me wonder about an after market replacement screen per the link someone posted earlier.

Lenovo X220 with IPS screen arrives Friday.

 

bummer sorry you are dissapointed in the screen. For curiosity sake can you check the screen hardware ID? is it a AUO screen?
I was the one that posted the screen replacement link.

I agree the 8460 would be the perfect laptop if not for the screen. But im happy with the 8560. If u saw my pics u'll see the viewing angles are pretty good. Thats why i was worried about the 8460. I work on my lap a lot so any slight movement would lose the narrow sweet spot.

Sounds like the 8460p is going back? What a shame.

 

Sorry, where do I find the screen hardware ID?

I am embarrased to say I didn't have the vari-bright off. Doing that was a 50% improvement on color and contrast with 20% improvement to vertical viewing which is now boarderline. Small text is still not crisp. I am going to wait for Lenovo X220 for comparison before sending one back.

 

I am esitating between these two also. Could you do a little review/comparaison of each for us?

Thanks!

 

Also, I tested video rendering speed. I took the same 13 iPhone 4 HD clips and put them back-to-back into a 3 minute Quicktime HD movie.

I used Cyberlink PowerDirector 9 software.

15" MBP i7 2.3 quad (Mac OS) - 9 minutes
15" MBP i7 2.3 quad (Win 7 Bootcamp / post bootcamp CPU firmware patch) - 8 minutes
HP 8460p i72620m Duo (Win 7) - 11 minutes

 

X220 has an amazing screen. It's going to blow ur 8460p away in that regards. But 12 inches is way too small. Why not get a mbp 13?

 

Because it is build like sh** . You hit it, drop it, it will be damaged.

Also, I hate OSX. I know I can do Bootcamp for windows, but I don't want something buggy for CAD at work.

I am using now a HP 2530p for 5-6h per day and I am used with that size.

I am between 3 notebooks now : X220, 2560P and 8460p.

Also, I want to do DIY graphic Vidock, so MBP is a nogo.

 

No dock, glossy screen, Apple tax, warranty, durability

 

THIS is exactly what I did. I kept the x220 and returned the HP. It's not a straight-forward choice:

1. both machines equally fast EXCEPT
2. the discrete graphics card on the HP kicks the hell out of the hd 3000. For whatever reason, the HD 3000 on the Mac's can play starcraft, but probably due to driver issues, they can't on the x220. The radeon in the HP is great in comparison.
3. the IPS screen on the x220 is way, way, way better than the 1600x900 HP screen. The deal-killer for me w/ the HP was the vertical viewing angle (or lack thereof).
4. The x220 does have less real estate. That doesn't bother me much b/c I overall prefer the weight of the x220 compared to the HP (it's about 1.5# lighter).
5. Trackpad is way, way, way better on the HP.
6. Keyboards, build quality, battery life, etc. equally good on both, though very different aesthetics.
7. x220 has fan noise as well, though not quite as bad as the HP. I think but haven't verified that tpfancontrol can solve the problem for the x220.

sd

 

I took a look on the X220 but the price is a killer argument for me.
I've ordered a 8460p (LG744EA - German) i72620, 1600x900, ATI, 4GB, 320GB for 1250€ (about 1800$), a X220 with similar configuration but 12,5" 1366x768, no optical drive, no ATI is about 1650€ (about 2400$)
I think they couldn't be compared...
I hope the display is OK for me
Delivery is in 2 weeks...

 

Just got my 8460p custom build: i7-2720QM with Intel HD 3000 (NO AMD)...

1. Display AOU 223 (1600x900) looks really good if ambient sensor disabled

2. Graphics performance for i7-2720QM + HD 3000 is very good, it show in Windows Performance Assessment values: Desktop = 6.2 / Gaming = 6.2 !!!
P.S: Those values out of the box... and I can expect to see 6.3 / 6.3 after some small tweaks
P.S: In Shaq32 review for i5-2540M + AMD HD 6470M related values were: 5.3 / 6.3

3. It's support SATA III (6 Gb) on two SATA connections: 0 and 1 !!!

Great laptop...

 

how can anyone take what you say seriously if you are so blantantly biased against apple? The MBP 13 didnt get rated as one of the best laptops because it is sh** like you say.

First off if you are dumb enough to drop your laptop its going to get damaged regardless of build. I don't know about you but I have never dropped any of my laptops. I sure as hell going to try and not drop my new 8560p cause if i did you know what? Its going to get damaged. Do you really think a X220 is going to be better off being dropped than a MBP? They are both going to be damaged. I have seen and held both laptops and the MBP actually feels a lot more solid. That is why I didnt like the thinkpads they are not solid like elitebooks. They are very plastiky and cheap feeling.

Second the MBP has one of the best build qualities of any laptop. Check out all the PROFESSIONAL reviews. They all agree what apple does well is design and build quality. I personally had a 13 and still have a 15MBP. I never used apple prior to these laptops and I must say they are one of the best laptops I have ever used. What is up with all this talk by everyone about reliability. I have never had a single thing go wrong with my MBP's.

Third is bootcamp. Have you ever personally used bootcamp? I think you would be quite surprised on how well windows runs on mac hardware. Infact duffin even ran some simple tests and guess what windows runs better on his MBP15 than his new 8460p! I personally had the same experience. Windows on my MBP15 runs better than my desktop at similar specs. Everything is just faster and it crashes a whole lot less. Not saying the MBP is better cause the MBP does have a fresher install of windows than my desktop but just saying don't knock something you havent tried. I'm sure the MBP can run your CAD program perfectly since it runs windows so flawlessly.

Last is design. The X220 is a great notebook no doubt but I personally hate the lenovo designs which is why I got a HP. They just look so dated. Not saying its not a amazing piece of hardware because it is with the IPS screen. Unlike you I can look at facts. But it's a bit too small and it doesnt even have a DVD drive like the MBPs. I think 13" is the smallest I'll go on a screen size. Anything smaller becomes uncomfortable on the eyes to work withfor extended periods of time.

Well thats just my opinion and you are entitled to yours but it doesnt help anyone if you are just going to be blast another notebook because of your personal bias and ignore facts.

 

Glossy screen okay I'll give you that one..
Yes no dock is a bit annoying but they do have those USB type docks now. Even the new probook 5330m doesnt have a dock and just supports one of those USB docks.

Durability? I had a 13inch MBP for almost three years before I sold it and got a newer 15MBP. The 13inch MBP was perfect and held up a lot better than my Dell D830 which is suppose to be a super durable business laptop.

Apple tax? warranty? Umm the price is about the same if not cheaper compared to Lenovo's and Elitebooks.

 

Congratulations on your purchase. Very nice performane, surprisingly high...
How did you check support for Sata III (6gbps)? Aida64 doesn't show me that...

 

Actually, to bring a 13" MBP warranty up to a 3-year level makes it much more expensive than the HP or Lenovo because I can get HP and Lenovo at a steep discount.

For example, a 15" quad-core, anti-glare MBP compared to 8560p is $1,000 more. The 13" is about $600 more. This is what I call the Apple Tax.

Keep in mind I used a snap-in docking station 80% of the time and this is an important feature for me.

 

The small text on 8460p looks smudgy and pixelated and when coupled with poor vertical viewing, it may be a deal breaker. I am very curious if I can work/live with the 12.5" X220 screen which I would only use 20% of the time.

 

I'm using HWiNFO32

Looks like combination of i7 QM + HD3000 with 6.3 / 6.3 assessment better than i5 + AMD with 5.3 / 6.3 assessment in all aspects except gaming.
And power consumption is very low...