*HP EliteBook 8460p Owners Lounge!*

yup dealing with facts.. Apple does not have a docking station.
So if you need a docking station then MBP's are not for you.

I personally avoid the warranties cause I take my chances on my electronics. Most likely if something doesnt break in the first year its going to be fine. After two years I am looking to get a new notebook already so the extra warranty doesnt do me any good. Plus I can get a discount on apple products through the university so its actually a bit cheaper or just the same as the elitebooks for me.

 

I have 6.4 for gaming on my 8560p

 

yeah that is really a shame. I was reallly hoping you would find your right notebook in the 8460p. That is definitely a deal breaker for me. The screen is probably the most important thing for me. It's the thing you freaken look at all the time when using your notebook. A horrible screen will just make me upset using my laptop everytime. Everyone is different but I'd recommend returning it. Just imagine having to fiddle with the screen and adjusting it everytime you use it to get the right viewing angle. I personally use my laptop when its not docked on the sofa, bed, lap, recliner, etc so I definitely need a nice vertical viewing angle.

Anyways thanks for the feedback on the 8460p screen. I still had a tiny bit of hope the screen would be okay but I think it's been confirmed by the pcmag review, your experience and stormslayers and I think one other member. The only member that liked the screen was the guy that wrote the review but he was comparing it to his 8440 which has a horrible screen also so I didnt put too much weight in it when he said the 8460 was better. Oh well.. definitely keeping my 8560 now

Order of Importance for me
1) Screen
2) Performance
3) Deisgn
4) Size+Weight

Had to sacrifice a bit on the size and weight on the 8560p but I got a nice screen and great performance. Better design than lenovo

 

Could you please post a screenshot from HwInfo32 where you can see this option?
thnx.

 

So, according to the HP sales rep that I just talked to, the 8460p doesn't support 6Gb/s SATA. In fact, he said that none of the current HP laptops support 6Gb/s SATA.

 

I said that and it is not opinions, it is based on facts.

I have a friend that have dropped his MBP from his table. The unibody aluminium is beautiful, but damn it absorbs nothing. It breaks! It is for that it is a bad build design. In the business world, you have to protect your data, but with the apple's design, the body transfer the shock to everything inside, included the HDD/SSD. That is a fail. Business laptop like elitebook or thinkpad are designed to absorb the shock.

Also, bootcamp is good, I don't say it is bull. BUT, for business, you can't use it. It is not safe to do it. Maybe in 2-3 years, it will be perfect, but for now, there are some issues that we can't pass over.

That said, it is ONLY for business use. For the consumer, it is a great machine.

 

hmm so your ONE friend's experience makes it fact? Hmm I think I'll trust the millions of users out there and the PROFESSIONAL reviewers on that one over your ONE firend's experience. If you look at all the professional reviews they all mention how the build on the MBP's are amazing and how they are built to last.

Also why isnt bootcamp good for business? It just depends on your use. A lot of developers who need linux/unix all prefer macs over windows machines. Bootcamp is just a added bonus. anyways dont mean to derail the topic from the 8460p so we can just agree to disagree.

 

can someone take a pic of the 8460p screen showing the poor viewing angles?

 

Why don't you take the pictures out of the well written review ("DISPLAY and AUDIO" part in http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-business-class-notebooks/577467-hp-elitebook-8460p.html)? Or is the quality not good enough? In my opinion you can receive a good impression of the angles with them.

 

Yea I guess those pics will do. Quality is pretty poor on them though. Oh well

 

Hi. I am going to buy a new laptop next week. I am torn between t420 and hp 8460p (I also consider x220 but I think it'll be too small ). Which should I choose? What about fan noise in 8460p? Is it loud? What about durability in both models? Are they both solid? I have always wanted thinkpad but hp seems really ok.

Excuse me for my English...

 

Sale Reps know nothing... only information from HP web site...

HP 8460p support SATA III - 6 Gb on ports 0 and 1 :

 

Windows Performance Assessment values:

HP 8460p: i7-2720QM + HD 3000 (NO AMD) + 8 Gb RAM + SSD 200 Gb (Vertex 2)

 

Yes, you are correct. Thank you, now I can see it too.

 

Quick results - X220 destroys 8460p for me. More later, but the 8460p screen just is terrible in comparison to decent 15" displays. Next to x220 ISP display, it's laughable. Use case drives whether one can live with 12.5" screen. In my case, the 20% I am undocked, I can.

 

Hi, I am looking for a new notebook and I am stuck between X220 a 8460p, normally, i would take a X220, because of IPS display, but i can get better processor, better gpu, and also a ssd with 8460p for a similar price as x220.
Smaller screen (x220) or bigger weight (8460p) doesn´t bother me at all.
Thanks

 

Glad u found ur notebook. Dell has some ultra thin all metallic notebooks coming out that look promising. Too bad for the 8460p screen. I saw a e4699 Dell and the screen was awesome for a 14". Wish the 8460p was like that. 12" is just too small for me.

 

Thanks - was the Dell e4699 Sandy Bridge? I saw the PR for the thin metallic Dell notebooks, but once again, consumer class with no docking.

 

If you are going to never use the 8460p screen and have it docked and never take it anywhere, then its your machine.

I tested i7 Duo vs Quad and it doesn't make a difference in routine use cases. Same performance rendering iPhone HD video.

I have had the X220 and 8460p side by side for a few days now and I just boxed up the 8460p to go back. Read my post before your first.

 

You're posts are so one sided. I don't believe world works like that. It's not like x220 is always better than 8460p. If one won't use a small laptop to watch movies and price/performance is the most important variable (most programmers/admins) then x220 will be worse. Not to mention that your duo vs quad test is wrong and irrelevant. In that case one could say that single core is as good as dual core and thus its as good as quad. Which is false. Quad core is twice better than dual core (with slight performance oscillation due to shared LLC cache). Maybe encoding video is done by gpu implemented on sandy bridge cpu - that's why you didn't see any difference. But if one would like to run 8 virtual machines on dual core it would be twice slower than on quad. Good way of testing if dual/single cpu matters is compiling a linux kernel with -j2 and -j4 on quad. And maybe more life case scenario for typical user: If you like to have software-encoded hard drive (truecrypt or lukscrypt) and also want to use photoshop and a bunch other cpu intensive stuff at the same time (antivirus for windows) - you'll see the difference.

All of you guys speak that screen is crap. Are you really going to edit photos on it or watch movies on 14" display? Any movie that shows great visual effects should be seen on a big display or in cinema. And if it comes to my personal opinion - screen is just a part of laptop. And for the money saved on buying 8460p I would get a decent 24" display.

@kennygenius: dell is going to release some new laptops also you could look at hp 5330m (13") or 2560p (12") which should have better screen than 8460p.

 

And is the screen really that bad? I read shaq32 review, and it doesn´t seem so horrible

 

You wrote all this for nothing because the screen has terrible color (and white ain't white and black ain't black) for the price. I put it up Side by side with the X220, MBP, old Dell 820. I've seen better in consumer class. Secondly, you missed that I wrote that use cases are a driving factor and mine don't need the quad core and there is better than the 8460p for my use.

 

When you physically compare it side by side to other laptops in similar price range, yes it's that bad. I had to get one to see it myself. After playing with the X220, I can live with 1.5 less screen space to have accurate color, crisp text and great viewing angles and less weight. I had a big visual prejudice against the Lenovo and it's weird I am going with it.

 

I´ll be using it mostly in school, but at home it will be connected with Samsung T240HD, but main reason why I can´t decide is that I can get 8460p with better specs for a same price as x220, and I am a student, so money is important for me, when i compare it, I would have 2,5ghz (X220) vs 2,7ghz(8460p) which is not much of a difference, but it would be HD3000 vs AMD6470 and 320GB HDD vs 128GB SSD :-/

 

SSD gives a massive speed improvement over HDD. And if you're going to use external display most of the time then in my opinion 8460p bad display should be good enough. I always buy my computers with more performance so it would "last" longer. Today not many apps can utilize many cores/threads. But this trend will change pretty soon since we actually don't get more power on a single core these days. I think you should go to HP and see if they got 8460p or something with similar display. That way you could see if it's good enough for you. Since money is important (as it is for me) I don't think you would like to buy new laptop soon. So performance should be more important then great viewing angles. I know I'm different but I tend to use my laptop by looking directly to it so seeing perfect colors when looking from side of the laptop is not important for me at all.

Oh and back to CPU - if you can - get the 4 core version that way it's almost like 8 cpus (because of HT).

 

I am used to display from old Pavilion Dv6 (4 years old I think) and display is perfectly fine for me, so if it would be somewhere in that level, I´d have no problem with that

 

What about t420 screen? Is it better than 8460p?

 

I gave up any plans for the 420 because of the screen, and now the story repeats itself with the hp! Seems all the great screens are on the 15's only, for some unexplicable reason.

See http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo-ibm/570356-t420-t520-reviews-screen-differences.html

 

I have to disagree. I had a choice between the 2620 and 2720 for $5 more. I chose the 2620 because it has a much higher clock speed, which, if not using programs like photoshop (such as gaming) is what you want. In my desktop PC I have an i7 920 and while I love it, I rarely am using more than one or two cores. Maybe this will change in the future but for right now, I choose clock speed over number of cores (and the 2620 has a 4 virtual b/c of HT).

 

With Turbo on, the 2720 has 3,2GHZ and the 2620 3,3GHZ (single core).

 

First of all quads have much more LLC Cache which is very very important. And you're comparing 2 powerful cores to 4 cores that has much less power. I was talking about 2 cores vs 4 cores using same speed.

 

I cannot find anything on google about the Dell e4699. Could you give more information ?

 

Lol my bad. Major typos on my iPhone when I wrote that. It's the e6400

Dell Latitude E6400 Review

Awesome screen!

The matte WXGA+ (1440x900) screen on the Dell Latitude E6400 is absolutely beautiful. No dead pixels were found during testing, and backlight bleed while noticed on some dark screens was minimal. Colors were vibrant despite the matte screen and the additional benefit of matte screens is the lack of reflection in an office environment. Wide viewing angles made the screen look sharp even at oddly contorted angles. Backlight adjustment was very broad, allowing me to adjust low enough for darker room settings, and bright enough to still be readable in sunlight or a bright office.

 

Awesome!!! Thank you so much, BearLab, for proving the sales reps wrong! I even spoke to 2 different reps in the hopes that the second rep would say that the first was mistaken. I was also unable to find any information or reviews that could show the SATA III support. I was hoping either someone would prove them wrong or show a way to enable the SATA III support.

Again, thank you. The 8460p is back at the top of my list.

 

I still don't know... T420 is more quiet. And ThinkPad is lighter.

 

Sh..
I ordered a 8460p on 5-May-2011 (available in 1-2 weeks)
6-May-2011 - planned delivery date 20-May-2011
10-May-2011 - planned delivery date 27-May-2011
13-May-2011 - planned delivery date 7-June-2011
17-May-2011 - planned delivery date 14-June-2011
hope i get it this year...

 

Hmm...I know what you mean. And I've been a fan of Thinkpads for a long time. But the main reason I'd lean toward the HP is the ability to upgrade to 16GB of RAM. I know that I don't need 16GB now but I plan to have my laptop for several years and I will probably end up wanting/needing to upgrade to more than 8GB. My Latitude D820 is 5 years old and I've upgraded it as much as possible.

 

T420's screen will make your eyes bleed.. . absolutely the worst screen I have ever seen. UGF

 

I think that 8460p's screen isn't better. Both are awful... Is 8460 power adapter very heavy? I know that laptop is heavier than T420. How looks power adapter?

 

Did you read the specs for HP 8460p and T420 ? or your knowledge came from your dreams ?

You are wrong... HP 8460p weight start with 4.56 Lb. and T420 weight start with 4.8 Lb... (T420 heavier)

My HP 8460p real weight (SSD + DVD + 62 W battery) = 4.75 Lb.

Power adapter weight and dimensions depend on what adapter you will have 65W or 90W... ( 90W = 5.00 x 1.97 x 1.1 in / 0.82 lb. , 65W = 4.17 x 1.85 x 1.1 in / 0.62 lb. )

I’m also get HP Slim Power adapter / USB charger 65 W (AX727UT#ABA) = 4.72 x 2.28 x 0.67 in / weight just 0.49 lb. !!! perfect for travel !!!

P.S: HP 8460p display (1600x900 AOU 223) not bad at all. It’s very bright and very good colors after ambient light sensor off and colors calibration. Only vertical viewing angle is little bit narrow.

 

Which exact configuration do you have? Does it matter? I mean if i7 with ati weight the same as i5 with intel? I am suprised. I read 8460p is heavier.

 

My config is i7-2720QM + SSD + DVD + 62 W battery + 1600x900 display ... but weight of CPU or GPU is irrelevant... in laptops it's just one chip...

P.S: With DVD replaced by second SSD in the option bay... weight... probably in the range 4.65 - 4.7 lb.

 

I have another question. Is 8560p fan noise similar to 8460p? I saw 8560 in store and I think that fan noise is acceptable. I didn't hear it without closing my ear to the fan.

 

my fan is constantly running when its plugged in but i dont heart it.
Where did you see a 8560 in a store?

 

Warsaw (Poland)

 

Hello Ypshimeow and all people.I have purchare an hp elitebook 8560p with 500gb hhd.Now!I want buy and SSD to replace this 500gb HHD.How can i do to replace?I don't know what SSD I can buy!Interface type will suitablle with my HP 8560p?

• PATA (4)
• SATA (1)
• SATA II (176)
• SATA III (35)
• ExpressCard (1)
• ExpressCard & USB 2.0 (1)

And Form Factor?

• 1.8" (4)
• 2.5" (73)
• 3.5" (3)
• ExpressCard (1)
• mSATA (1)

This is my link Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Hard Drives, SSD, $100 - $200
I search SSD in here.Can you help me choose one SSD?I have about 200usd.
And last!I need do what with my 500gb HDD?I from VietNam and hear something about caddy?Can you guide me?Where can I buy caddy?Help me Everybody!Thank all of you

 

Standard should be 2,5" with SATA (1&2&3). I don't know if it is possible to add a mSATA, but if yes, you could additionally use the 500GB drive.
Which SSD exactly depends on your demands:

- how much space?
- how fast?
- how durable

 

Thank you for quick reply!I want SSD about 120gb,no more 120gb because my money is 200usd.Only to install windows OS,some software like MS Visual Studio,MS SQl Server,Netbeans and other software.I want my system boot faster,cooler because my country weather is so hot.
And what is different between SATA(1,2,3).Which interface is best for my 8560p.Thank you so much.
//My english is so terrible

 

SATA is a specific interface, while 1,2,3 are different versions which are all downwardly compatible.
I've checked your shop and I'd recommend this A-data SSD 160GB (seems to be an intel ssd) or this Corsair SSD 115GB with Sandforce controller

The first one seems to be a good deal, but it's out of stock and I'm not 100% sure whether it really is a SSD with intel controller.

 

Hi,

just a quick question - can you notice a buzzing sound comming out from power adapter when plugged in? I have just noticed that I hear a buzzing sound comming out of power adapter. Strange