*HP EliteBook 8760w Owners Lounge*

Would You be so kind and tell me how You modified INF to get brightness control working. I have K3000M and everything is working fine except the brightness control. Every time when driver is loaded brightness control stops responding.

 

Attempted fiddling with the registry entries for the brightness but I cannot get it to work either, never realized the problem until now as I run an external monitor. So if anyone knows how to mend that?
Having the same issue with my GTX 980M on the 8760w.

 

Use HP's K3000M driver (for example from 8770w driver download site), not ones from Nvidia.com. You will probably have to modify INF file, but that's not difficult.

 

I've used several HP drivers. I've modified the inf file to recognize the K3000M card. No problem with installation but no brightness control. I even changed Video Bios to Dell bios (2 version) and to HP bios ( 2 vertions, including the newest for HP Z workstation) Still no brightness control. Everything besides that working great.

 

For people who have attempted or are running their machines in legacy boot mode, and could not get the RAID 0 array to create the MBR, here is your solution or workaround. Also, stumbled upon a bug in the 8760w BIOS for SSD users especially as they max out the SATA 2 protocol.

Under the Max SATA Speed setting in BIOS, its actually the opposite. Do not believe me? Benchmark it yourself. It will still display SATA 3 6Gbit mode in the tools I use to check at both settings.

Found this out from testing the RAID 0 array and could only get about 500MB/s with SATA 6.0 set, and almost 1100Mb/s with SATA 3.0 set.

HP was not being much of a help so I decided to read up on how UEFI actually works.
Something everyone should read about the topic:

https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/

And credits to http://www.intowindows.com/create-uefi-bootable-usb-of-windows-10/ for a simple tutorial how to make a USB stick UEFI would read as a file system. Picture below is from the same site.

Found a workaround that will work on pre-2012 Elitebooks like 8740w and 8760w without UEFI Hybrid mode for making a bootable RAID 0 array since this was broken in the later BIOS versions with MBR boot devices.



Create a USB stick with UEFI boot capability, with FAT32 file system using a tool called Rufus. The volume label does not matter obviously. Select the windows.iso image of your choice.
EFI can read partitions on FAT32 devices under the "Boot from EFI file" boot option.

Boot the PC -> F9 for Boot Options -> Boot from EFI file -> The USB device created should show -> navigate into it under \efi\boot\ -> execute bootx64.efi

Follow Windows installation as normal. Will be able to create partitions the UEFI boot perfectly on Pre-2012 Elitebooks without UEFI Hybrid mode as the 8770w has a workaround.


Hope this helps others. Been raving about this problem for a year since they ruined legacy boot and RAID 0 in recent BIOS updates. Sorry for the rambling, been up for over a day and a shift at work.

EDIT: Found an annoying bug where sometimes when cold booting, it will not detect the RAID array as a bootable device. A simple soft reboot will allow UEFI boot. Probably another BIOS bug as it specifies in the BIOS that UEFI support is experimental and should only be used to testing purposes.

 

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Hi Dysprositos, I have k4100m from Dell and would like to install it on 8760W the same as u did with your k5100m. I have few questions to you :
1. Did you flash HP vbios?
2. Did you modify only nvbl.inf?
3. Before installing new modified drivers did you unistall old ones? if so was it just simply uninstall and thats it ?
4. Did you turn off driver signature enforcement ?

many many thanks for reply.

 

I had a 8770w with a AMD GPU prior, installed a K5100M in it with Dell vBIOS. No problem at all. Running a Clevo GTX 980M in my 8760w now. Same thing. No problem except unability to change brightness setting. No problem for me though personally.
1. So no, you should be fine. As part of the vBIOS is loaded from the system BIOS HP machines seems to be fairly tolerant to any other vBIOS on the GPU board itself but requires a custom driver in Windows. Linux does not care and auto detects the corrent GPU and driver.
2,3 and 4. You better just download the modified .inf from http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ with the driver version you like and replace the .inf in the driver folder then install the driver with the "have disk" option after you disable driver signing at boot.

Should be straight forward enough.
Happy to help as well if you have questions.

 

Can I ask you to try a 4k display with the 980M and check if it works, please? I need to know if it's a GPU limitation or a BIOS limitation of the laptop.

 

Sorry, do not own any 4k displays. Only been running my two 30" 2560x1600 displays without a hitch. But that does not help you..
The 8760/8770w DP out as far as I know is version 1.2 and the 980M will certainly support a 4k display.

Quote from notebookcheck on the 980M: "Displays can be connected with a maximum resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels via DisplayPort 1.2 or HDMI 2.0 (no HDCP @ 4K)"

 

Should work, check this. Older than yours, same generation as mine. I believe you have to get proper cable and you'll be fine.

 

Hi all you kind experts.
Here's the thing, I have an 8760W with FHD screen, recently upgraded to 32Gb, I7 2960XM, SSD running a Quadro 4000M (I'm running Creo hence the spec). I was looking at a final upgrade to a 5010M but seems silly money. After trawling through this forum, it seems that I can upgrade to a newer NV card, with perhaps a bit of tweaking.
I have the chance to get a K3100M or a K4000M for the same price. Which one do I go for?

Should point out that both units are stated as 'from a working Dell system'

Any kind help is much appreciated.

Kindest regards

Ash

 

What's your budget? If eBay is where you are looking at, you can find K5000m cheaper than 5010m as strange as it sounds. DELL K5000m should work, no problems and I think someone already got that, or even K5100m. Check the last few pages.

 

Not a great budget but just picked up a Dell K4000M for £150 which seems good. The comparison between that and a 5010M seems to show the K4000M wins hands down.

 

Can someone add a link to the dang 8770w owners lounge. I searched the crap out of it and can't find it.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/8770w-elitebook.657317/

There is quite a few threads about 8770w, that one has ~40 pages at least

 

Theres no owners lounge for the 8770w? That sucks. I have a 8560w and I am either going to get a 8760w or 8770w. I was hoping there was one so I could get peoples thoughts on the 8770w from the time it was new until now like the other owners lounge threads.

 

It's only a matter of renaming one thread to owner's lounge and hopefully an active thread starter who likes to edit first post with links and whatnot. Unfortunately we are few years late now for that to work.

 

Quick heads up. Dell K4000M arrived from Spain last week, stripped down and replaced the 4000M with the 'K' this morning. Reset BIOS to defaults, booted back up into on board VGA, checked GPU-Z and Device Manager and nothing! No graphics card listed. 5 minutes later message popped up saying new display driver installed and reboot required.
Rebooted into HD graphics, checked GPU-Z and there she was in all her glory! Correct HP vendor and everything.
So basically, I didn't have to do anything. It configured itself.
I now have one hell of a spec 8760W.

 

Can anyone technical here could tell
If my HP 8760w laptop would run only on CPU Intel Graphics (i7 2620QM).
Has anybody tried to disconnect an internal MXM vga card and watch FullHD movies only on Intel ?
Tech geek anyone ?

 

Mine would run on the integrated graphics but only VGA, so assume that the driver was not installed.

 

Hi guys,

I spent the other day 3 hours on the chat with some lazy douche from the laptop support (I've worked as support for HP servers and I know what I'm talking about - this guy was a complete douchebag and besides being super lazy not wanting to help me at all, didn't have a clue what he was talking about - really disappointing to see that from a colleague and to understand what customers are experiencing every day, given how I'vce always strived to be helpful and professional for my customers and their datacenter issues....) and he wasn't able to help me, so before I start swapping parts, I want to ask around here - maybe someone has a clue and can help me. So here's what happened - I bought my 8760w from ebay, it was listed as quadcore with dreamcolor, needless to say turned out to be a dualcore model with a quad cpu + non-dreamcolor display, so I started upgrading. I bought a motherboard a few days ago and swapped it and after a while I started having the following issue - the battery won't charge even if the charger is plugged in. Sometimes the power LED would be lit on white, but blink amber in the meantime too (which I've never seen before), othertimes it'd be just off. I have an extended 74Wh battery, so don't think it's the battery (could be the internal one though if it has higher priority or is required for the laptop to power on). Yesterday it worked with the old PSU again for a while and then stopped just as suddenly as it started working. I've just received the new 230w power supply I ordered and unfortunately it's the same thing. I thought it'd be either the mobo or the PSU, but since I needed a second PSU anyways, decided to get one and check. Now before I start swapping the mobo back to the dualcore model, has anyone seen this type of LED behaviour? Also a thing I think is worth mentioning - I think I've had similar issue when I first got it with the old PSU - it wouldn't charge, but as far as I can remember the LED was off then (might've been with the 120W PSU I got it with though, not the 230W one I used ever since).

Also a friend mentioned he had similar issue with his 8560p, with the led behaviour and everything, but he can't remember whether it was mobo, battery or psu (it was his work laptop and got fixed internally).

Thanks in advance for all help and pointers I might be missing here.

Cheers,
Vlad

P.S. I forgot to mention I've updated the BIOS - it was at F43, so I've upgraded to F50 and then F60 - no change. Also there's a message I still haven't figured out completely yet - "ME is in recovery state" on POST. I don't use ME, so it's strange I get this and haven't figured out a way to get rid of it yet.

 

On my 8740w I had to swap the motherboard to fix the charging. (actually the HP engineer did it for me)

 

I certainly hope it doesn't come to this. The funny part is that it arbitrarily just starts working whenever it wishes to - like an hour after I finished writing this above it started charging and working normally for no apparent reason... I have completely no idea what the f is going on with this laptop..

 

Check the soldering around the battery and PSU connector.
Maybe the previous owner had a little accident.

 

Vlad, you are aware that eBay offers buyers protection right? You should have gotten a full refund if something different is delivered or damaged in shipment.
That said, by this point its probably too late.

But to your problem, it sounds like the motherboard alright. Had a similar issue with a 8730w years back that was repaired under warranty. They replaced either the motherboard/and or the power board. (basically the circuit board under the power button on the 8730w)
Your best bet is to swap back to your dual core motherboard to rule out the problem as you are planning. I would bet the motherboard is gone, that said, a battery can die or refuse charge at any moment. Does pressing F1 at boot report the battery as present? But its still not charging?

The LED behaviour you see I have seen with other Elitebooks, and I have always suspected them to be due to either fault indications or if you have the Intel ME/AMT enabled. You could try updating the ME engine with the latest firmware and see if it changes anything.
http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/...id=5071184&swItemId=ob_107269_1&swEnvOid=4059

Wish I never had updated my BIOS to the latest F.60 version, as I cannot boot from the RAID 0 array now. This is a problem across the 8740w, 8760w and 8770w in legacy boot mode. At least with the 8770w you have UEFI native, that works.
The original BIOS from 2011 worked perfectly and I have been dealing with HP for weeks now trying to get them to escalate this problem to the BIOS development team. I gave up today as they keep ringing me every other day asking the same stupid questions.

Also, remember if you have an SSD to set your SATA controller to SATA2 mode for full speed SATA3 speed. Another ****up in the BIOS I found when benchmarking.

EDIT: Might be a simple thing also as the power connector as its a standalone piece with a multimeter. I would inspect the motherboard carefully for any residue of flux as well, as I have stumbled upon repaired motherboards delivered as new from HP as replacement parts that were faulty. In my case, a glitchy docking port connector that disconnected the LAN to the dock randomly.

 

For 8760W (win7) with backlit keyboard...is there a method to adjust brightness? One google response indicated fn-f11 would toggle keyboard brightness, but that doesn't seem to work.

 

It's either on or off, only setting in BIOS is illumination duration after a stroke or use of the touchpad.

 

Gave up on HP support fixing the RAID issue, they kept ringing every day asking me to redo everything I have already done over and over. Gave up and told them to close the case.
So, if you are planning on RAID0 on any Elitebook, DO NOT UPDATE THE BIOS if you are lucky to have one of the older versions installed.

Also, at least on the 8760w, BIOS version F.60 SATA controller speed is reversed. Obvious BIOS bug but they seemed totally incapable of reading the information I gave them.

 

Hi there,
I just bought a second hand hp 17'' elite book 8760w workstation for 875 Canadian. I install solidworks 2015 on it . However, the machine is very slow. The window 7 pro that is installed is not the original.
I have the product number and the product code, but I don't know how the get original OS and other utilities that come with it.

Thank you so much
Yeshi

 

I recently ordered an HP 8760w elitebook for about $280. Specs are 4gbs ddr3 ram, 2nd gen duel core i7 2620m (2.7ghz), and nvidia quadro 3000m. I plan to use this laptop for picture editing, video editing, and some gaming. I want to upgrade to a quad core i7 2720QM (2.2ghz) an a nvidia gtx 680. Would swaping the components be all the work that's required? From what i understand there compatable components. Has anyone successfully done this that can help me out?

 

Dual core 8760w has different motherboard than 4-core. The only visible difference is 2 vs 4 RAM slots (quad has 4) . Not sure about other differences.

Earlier in this thread it has been reported that gtx 680 works just fine, but you might have replace thermal pads to fit the 680 which is a bit different, I believe. Also, don't forget to repaste

 

Quick question - I've been fighting with my 8760 (i7-2860QM, Q 3000M) since July, trying to get an OS to install to a GPT formatted disk. The only way I've managed it has been to jump through a ridiculous # of hoops and even then it's just not working properly. Bottom line is that the OS is unable to update the BCD store even though the laptop will boot to it without issues (in UEFI mode obviously). The real problem is even though I've managed to get the OS installed and it boots & runs (mostly) fine the inability to read/update the BCD from a running OS means some things are simply impossible to do (such as installing Win 10's "SP1" ) and other things require insane workarounds.

Before I reformat the SSD back to the time of the dinosaurs, I just wanted to check with you guys to see if I'm missing something? I'm running the latest v60 F/W and when that disappeared from the HP servers for a while I was holding out hope that they would be addressing this issue (I can't swear to it but I thought this checked out OK on the old .42 f/w).

Thanks
Brad

 

So I just picked up an 8760W 17.3" and I'm very happy with it (i7-2720 I think), 12 GB RAM, Quadro 3000M card.

I picked it up primarily to run engineering/professional software.

However I was curious about it's ability to play games as well and was very happy with how it performed, considering it's not built for that. I had one concern though..

The fan kicked on and stayed at higher speed during gameplay, the actual laptop did not feel hot/warm, so that's telling me that the fan its job perfectly. The noise does not bother me as I'll have my bose headphones in anyways. I'm just concerned about the extended workload on the laptop...am I being too overly cautious?

Again the actual unit did not get warm, the computer did not experience any slowdown, or anything else that caused concern..just paranoid about whether I should be concerned about the life of the fan and if this is healthy or not.

Anyways, this thing works beautifully and it's my first elitebook. I came from a macbook pro after several years. Macbook's are great, but in the end of the day they are best for personal/home usage and not for what I need. Got tired of trying to run Windows on it (computer would get buggy a lot and act up) for my engineering software.

 

HP 8760w vBios upgrade

Hi tech geeks !!! My concern is very simple.
Would I be able to upgrade vBios of the other-manufacturer VGAcard after installing on the same notebook
or would I use some external bios flashing device in the first way AND then mount it in notebook ?

CAN Anyone tell please his/hers experience with VGA upgrade ?

 

Yes, you are They're designed to be portable workstations; so long as it's working as expected and the fan noise doesn't bother you, have at it!

 

Hi, All

I'm about to replace my primary HDD with SSD, but am wondering how to remove SC (smart card?) plastic assembly on top of HDD 1. Any clues? Or helpful videos? Thank you

 

@Severin Pappadeux : The smart card reader has one screw and then swivels up. Once perpendicular to the rest of the chassis, you can access the HDD caddy, or you could simply remove the SC reader all together - one of the pins it rotates on can be pulled up and the other one just pops out. Be careful with the ribbon cable though - I recommend you disconnect it upfront, if you're removing the SC assembly.

Here's the maintenance guide for more info: http://h20628.www2.hp.com/km-ext/kmcsdirect/emr_na-c02847569-1.pdf (p.54)

 

Hi users !

I confirm that K4100M works fine on 8760w. All I did was to cleanly remove NVidia drivers&software beforehave just completed replacing my Quadro 3000M with K4100M in the 8760w. It works without any problems.

 

Hi users !

Quadro K4100M works on 8760w !!!

I have just completed a successfull upgrade from standard Quadro 3000M and now I see a pleasant boost to the graphics

Let me tell you how I did it - hopefully U find anything usefull.

I got a K4100M for $170 as a used part from MSI notebook. Although it claimed to be a MSI dedicated, it occured it has HP vBios. It's crucial to check this first before upgrading.

I also upgraded my laptop's bios to version F60 !!! and I do NOT use UEFI !!! - maybe those are crucial but I cannot confirm that.

Then all I did was to cleanly remove NVidia drivers&software before unscrewing laptop (no fear people - just screw it ,
replace the card, put the thermal paste on gently and assembly the laptop.
Naturally I did some precautions, like preparing a self boot USB pendrive with DOS and NVIDIA flashing tools as well as getting a cordless USB keyboard in case I need to type some operations on a disassembled machine. In fact the most trouble was the PowerOn button - the cord needs to be reattached each time you need something to test.

After checking that 8760w tolerates it's new hardware I assembled the laptop and run Windows 7. The most up-to-date Nvidia drivers also occured to work as a charm.

Now to the results:

During extremely heavy load, like FurMark benchmark - It heats up to 80(C) degrees PLUS (around 82).
I can imagine that because it is a 100Watt graphics card in comparison to 75Watt Quadro 3000M.
Nevertheless during "entertaining" myself 15hours non-stop on Far Cry 3 in Very High setting 1080p it did not pass 80(C) degrees.
Any comments is this is a good result (?) I have a twin-heat-pipe for GPU.
On plain Windows desktop it's a 43(C) degrees only.

Checked thoroughly. On my second OS Ubuntu 14.04 there was NOT even a single modification needed. Ubuntu started correctly with all deskop 3D effects.

Summarizing:
Beside the heating, no other doubts concerned. I am wondering to get an external USB cooling air-sucker but it's small price for a large noise in total. What do you think ?


PS.
In fact I gathered 2 similar cards and checked both of them ! Both had identical vBios version sticker (see top of picture)
Eventhough the other one was from a garage sale - it did start with DOS and I could reflash it's vBios from the working one but in any case it kept rebooting laptop after first Windows 7 initialization.


That's it

Next step: Quadro M3000M (looking for price discount ))))

 

So series Quadro MX000M will be work in 8760w and 8770w?

 

Will it ? I have no idea.
Probably this depends on BIOS & vBIOS relation.

 

M5000M has been tested in 8740w by a Chinese, works but the fan has to be controlled manually.

 

Do you have any links?

 

Here you are. The pictures can be viewed only if you are registered, but basically it's shot of a program that gives full system information (8740w, ES CPU and M5000M), and a GPU-Z shot.

 

Thank you. This is great info.

 

Should i buy a elitebook 8760w or get a dell inspiron 7559? If i get the Hp Elitebook 8760w i was going to put a Gtx 770m from msi. But im a noob when i comes to editing .exe files so Is there any programs i can use for that? I know you have to edit the drivers but im not shure if i can edit the latest nvidia drivers for the 770m

 

I found this but i dont really know it will work cause this wwas awhile ago.
http://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/to...r-for-geforce-gtx-770m-on-hp-elitebook-8760w/

 

My 8760W is currently running on a M5950, i just got myself a Philips 4K monitor, it can only go up to 4K @ 30Hz.

Is there any option i can upgrade the display card so that i can run at 60Hz?

I don't play that much of video games, so i don't need a very fancy card, as long as 60Hz is working for 4k.

Thanks,

 

You need an adapter. Search for Club 3D CAC-1070 (DP to HDMI 2.0), or just CAC-1070. Your cable has to be HDMI 2.0 spec as well. Your GPU should be up for the task. Even if it's not, you'll still need these anyway, but you'll also need a GPU.

You need to modify the inf files, not the exe. There are guides on how to do it.

 

I figured out how to extract the exe files and i found the inf files. Is there a diffrence between the AMD and Nvida gpu heatsinks?