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    *HP EliteBook 8760w Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by wkuballa, May 24, 2011.

  1. STL D

    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys,

    I managed to snag a dell K4000m on ebay at $80, which I got installed last night. After installing it, I received the dreaded black screen. The screen lights up, it just doesn't display a picture. To verify the card works, I plugged in an external screen via VGA, which does work. The only vBios I can find for this model HP wise seems to be for the Z1 All in one. I tried said bios, but still have the same issue. The only difference is now windows actually installed the drivers for the card.

    I see multiple people here are using this exact same card, would someone be willing the share their vBios? If not, does someone have a tool that will actually let me change the vendor on the bios?
     
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    I don't suppose anyone knows if a m.2 ssd can work in this machine? Or msata at Sata III?

    Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk
     
  3. STL D

    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    After messing with it a bit more, I tried a few Dell bioses as well as the z1 hp bios. Windows only reads a display if it is connected to the vga port (didn't try displayport). If I try and boot without a screen hooked up externally, the built in display shuts off upon boot. It does not give a picture period.

    If I put back in the old card, the screen turns on. Is it possible the card is bad even though it works fine to the vga out?

    Also, does anyone have a known working bios available for the k4000m on the 8760w? Trying to avoid sending it back...
     
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  4. kamilo23

    kamilo23 Notebook Geek

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    It could be broken.
     
  5. STL D

    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    Even though it outputs to the external monitor, and windows reads the card as what it is?
     
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    Your last check is try to change bios. Wish I could help but dont have one.
     
  7. STL D

    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's what I'm hoping, that someone here who has a confirmed working bios will be kind enough to upload it for me.
     
  8. Saltsi

    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    I'v upgraded my 8760w by installing a Geforce GTX 880m successfully yesterday. Bought the card from Ebay, description was "Dell Alienware M18X M17x Nvidia Geforce GTX 880 Video Card GTX880M 8GB CXC7W", it's a manufacturer refurbished new card.

    Used the standard HP Nvidia cooler. Had to put 2 layers of thermal padding on some places to get proper contact (Bought 1mm thick Arctic Cooling thermal pad), cut the pieces to fit the cooler.

    Edit: temps were too high, contact to the gpu core wasn't optimal. Took some extra layer if padding off, now it's in proper contact. Really fiddly work and many test fittings...

    Laptop booted normally, shows the card in bios, but i had to install the modified laptopvideo2go modded inf + regular nvidia driver in Windows test mode (win 10). So this version of the GPU is compatible.

    i7-2820qm , with 4 memory module motherboard version, newest Bios.

    www.kolumbus.fi/saltsi/kuva/003_gpu.jpg
    www.kolumbus.fi/saltsi/kuva/002_gpu_cooler.jpg
    004_3dmark11.jpg
     
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  9. Savage.exe

    Savage.exe Notebook Geek

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    It's nice to hear that the Elitebook 8760w can take a 880m. Im wanting to buy one to turn it into a gaming laptop except I was gonna put a gtx 770m. Would you have to mod the inf file in any way if you get the gtx 770m one from Laptopvideo2go? or does thier site even have the gtx 770m inf files?
     
  10. Savage.exe

    Savage.exe Notebook Geek

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    Also do you get the HP Geforce drivers on LaptopVideo2Go?
     
  11. Saltsi

    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    880m looks to be really hot card, but after fixing the heatsink contact to gpu was playing Diablo 3 for about an hour with a small thermal throttling. Really good performance from this, FullHD all settings maxed minimum framerate is ~80 and mostly around 120-130fps

    Core clock seems to stay between 870-980 Mhz , temps are ~89 in games
     
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  13. Savage.exe

    Savage.exe Notebook Geek

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    What is the most powerful CPU you can use in the quad core version of the HP Elitebook 8760w?
     
  14. STL D

    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    So does anyone have a known working bios for a k4000m for the quadcore version of the 8760w? Non dreamcolor.
     
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    Savage.exe Notebook Geek

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    I'm sorry I cant help you there. I do believe there is information on the K4000m a few pages back though if that helps you at all.
     
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    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sadly, no one posted the actual bios. It is weird, the k4000m is recognized in the hp bios and it outputs to the vga port, but refuses to output to the actual monitor on the laptop. Windows also recognizes the card without issue.
     
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    Would you be so kind as to post the vbios from your k4000m?
     
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    Savage.exe Notebook Geek

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    Do you think I should get a Hp EliteBook 8760W or a Dell inspiron 15 7559 i5?
     
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    erv2 Newbie

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    Hi all, I got myself a AMD M4000 from Alibaba, according to the seller, it has vBios and it would work with 8770w.

    when i put it in my 8760w, i got black screen, using VGA does not help, also black screen.

    does it mean something wrong with the card or it's simply not compatible with my laptop? thanks.
     
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    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    I appreciate the link, but apparently that site doesn't properly send out authentication emails to sign up. I've tried 3 different email addresses now. Without being a full member, I can't download from them.
     
  22. STL D

    STL D Notebook Enthusiast

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    I managed to get signed up, but they use a point system and I need 15 points to download the file. Unfortunately, the site is not in english, so I can't really post very well on it to earn the points to download the file. :(

    If you have access to download it, would you be willing to upload it here for me?
     
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  23. kamilo23

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    I need 10 more, I'am working on this. :D
     
  24. juventuscadillac

    juventuscadillac Newbie

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    can you guys please tell me what panel i can replace my laptop screen with, I have the 8760w i7-2620M 2 ram slot model, it came with the chi mei 1600x900 panel.

    would the LP173WF1 (TL) (B3) panel work ok? are there any better screen models i can replace it with?

     
  25. Saltsi

    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    I replaced my screen with http://www.panelook.com/B173HW02 V1_AUO_17.3_LCM_overview_17335.html , it has good colors. Working great, got a good deal from ebay, was around 35$ used in mint condition.
     
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    anyone installed a ips panel? or what is a newer panel i can installed in it?
     
  27. kamilo23

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    DC panel or above
     
  28. erv2

    erv2 Newbie

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    I've changed to a B173HW01.V4 , very straight forward operation .

    but for most of the time, my 8760w is on a dock and connected to a Philips 40inch 4k monitor :)
     
  29. Lucious

    Lucious Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wassup guys? New owner of a 8760W behemoth here. I've never dealt with these beasts before so I have some questions:

    1) The user I bought this from had a Windows 10 installation with no possibility of reverting back to Windows 7 PRo 64bit which is the OS the machine originally came with. Does HP allow to download Windows 7 Pro 64 bit from it's website? I tried downloading them from MS and it came up with this:

    Error
    The product key you've entered appears to be for software which was pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

    2) I've heard you must set SATA 3GBs (F60 - latest bios) in the bios to achive proper 6GBs (SATA III) speeds. Is this true?

    3) Resolution of the monitor is 1920X1080, card is Nvidia Quadro 4000M. Do I have the dreamcolour screen?

    4) Any guides on how to disassemble these? Looking to change thermal paste and putting in an SSD (Samsung 850 Evo 1TB)

    Thanks in advance :)
     
  30. KLF

    KLF NBR Super Modernator Super Moderator

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    1. Since Microsoft stopped distributing iso images to other than their own customers, we are officially out of luck. HP would probably sell you a recovery disc set. I doubt they let you download anything but if they do, mind giving me the links too? :)
    2. Umm... Canada? (I'll pass on this one) I just installed latest bios and let it be... it works, so I won't touch it.
    3. Turn your laptop upside down, remove battery and take note of the model number. Google it and you should find something, hopefully useful information.
    4. Look at the second post in this thread. It was there all this time ;)
     
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  31. Brad_M

    Brad_M Newbie

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    You can grab ISOs from http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/ - you can verify the original MD5 and SHA-1 on them to confirm they've not been played with.

    As for the SATA speeds, I ran a quick test against my SSD and mechanical drives:
    Under UEFI boot, there's no difference - the setting is ignored and you get 6Gbps speeds. However, booting up in 'BIOS' mode the setting does matter and yes, it is reversed.
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    CrystalDiskMark 5.1.1 x64
    Test : 100 MiB [SSD] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
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    'BIOS' boot mode, SATA speed set at 6Gbps:
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    Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 284.120 MB/s
    Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 268.271 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 197.065 MB/s [48111.6 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 185.205 MB/s [45216.1 IOPS]
    Sequential Read (T= 1) : 266.371 MB/s
    Sequential Write (T= 1) : 249.760 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 28.075 MB/s [ 6854.2 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 46.930 MB/s [11457.5 IOPS]

    'BIOS' boot mode, SATA speed set at 3Gbps:
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    Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 549.984 MB/s
    Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 524.531 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 214.665 MB/s [ 52408.4 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 187.702 MB/s [ 45825.7 IOPS]
    Sequential Read (T= 1) : 505.395 MB/s
    Sequential Write (T= 1) : 480.627 MB/s
    Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 26.241 MB/s [ 6406.5 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 68.071 MB/s [ 16618.9 IOPS]
     
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  32. Lucious

    Lucious Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the answer everyone. I have a friend in Greece that works for HP support and he bought the Windows recovery discs for me (8 euros) and he'll be sending them over (UK here)

    I'm about to replace the 750GB hard drive with a 850 EVO 1TB. Should I go with UEFI boot or choose SATA2 (to get SATA3) instead?

    Also looking for the docking stations for the 8760W which one is a better solution?

    1) This: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq...Docking-Station-Port-Replicator-/271259295531
    2) Or this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq...ation-Port-Replicator-w-USB-2-0-/271552348232

    Many thanks again :)
     
  33. Brad_M

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    UEFI boot is faster but I was never able to get it working properly and I've disabled it now (note: you'll need to wipe your drive and reinstall everything to switch between MBR and GPT formats).
     
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    UEFI does not work properly on pre-2012 HP laptops. If you are lucky, it might, but probably not. I got random missing boot drives at cold boot. Better stick to legacy boot on these older machines. So no, do not go UEFI as its experimental on the 8760w.
     
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    In case there's anyone interested, I managed to replace my old M5950 and "Blind Flash" the AMD M4000 card i got from Alibaba, the system boots with no problem, Windows10 recognized it as the 7700M series, and I managed to update the driver using the automatic option.

    With some manual overwrites of the custom resolution settings, I managed to get the system to output native 4K resolution @60Hz with my Philips 4K monitor. It's all silky moves now. I am a very happy man.

    The whole upgrades costs no more than US$50.
     
  36. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    What cable you have used between the TV and the laptop?
     
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    If you are asking about me, i am not connecting to a TV, i am connecting to a 40inch 4K monitor using displayport.

    I have the docking station which has the displayport, however it only supports 30hz @ 4k nomatter what settings i tried. however if i use the machine's displayport, it can output 60hz @4k.
     
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    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    I'v been using a Displayport -> HDMI cable, working great. Sound is transferred too with this cable.
     
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    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Thanks! Is it a special cable, since HDMI 1.4 doesn't support 4K@60Hz, only HDMI 2.0?

    @erv2 - That's what I was asking. So it's a 4K monitor connected to the 8760w using normal DisplayPort cable, correct? Thank you, I knew that it was possible.
     
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    It's a normal DP 1.2 cable connecting between the onboard DP port and my monitor DP port.

    My monitor does not support HDMI 2.0, so i am not able to verify DP 1.4 ->HDMI 2.0 @ 4k 60hz , however DP -> HDMI 1.4 works, so it can output 4k @ 30hz

    Hope it helps.
     
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    UEFI works fine for me on W10. Luckily didn't run into any problems at all. But note that older machines initially released with legacy bios don't tend to run full UEFI. Some features are missing (BIOS/chip doesn't have enough blocks for full feature set of uefi), like using TPM (everything would look fine, but you will just run into errors trying to actually use it). So if you want to use something like bitlocker, best to resort to legacy bios. And like brad says, choose wisely since you won't be able to switch after installing an OS.

    Also a question, anyone successfully upgrade the 2nd gen CPU with any 3rd gens? I read mostly not possible...
     
  42. Saltsi

    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    Got a good deal for a 8770w. Took my gtx 880m from the 8760w and installed it on the 8770w, can confirm that it works in 8770w aswell.
     
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    Erm... I've got a somewhat strange question, I guess... I've been thinking about changing my mobo in order to get the extra two memory slots and I was wondering, whether if I were to get a mobo for 8770w, I'd need to replace anything else (besides the CPU, but that's more of a sought effect actually - get an Ivy instead of the Sandy bridge CPU I've got now), or they would fit perfectly. AFAIK the chassis are completely 1:1, but don't know jack about the rest of the boards in the laptop. I.e. has anyone made this kind of "upgrade" to their 8760w and can anyone enlighten me a bit over what I should expect if I were to take this path? Also if this were to work, what CPU should I aim for? I guess 3840qm is the best money can buy, before hitting the extreme section, for which I'd need to sell a kidney and probably a child or two in slavery?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    That has been done before in this forum, either on 8760w or 8560w.
    At least it was motherboard+cpu, usb3 board.. top cover with mouse I think. Probably missed something.

    In my opinion, check first how much a 8770w costs and how much you would get from your 8760w, how much would parts separately cost. Then decide if it is worthwhile.
     
  45. Lucious

    Lucious Notebook Enthusiast

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    An update from my side:

    1) Managed to get the HP support DVDs. For some odd reason I managed to install Windows 7 Pro on top of Windows 10 and the system never asked me for a cd key/activation. Had a little problem with Windows updates but managed to get them going (249 critical updates - I removed those related to Windows 10 reminders etc)
    2) It seems some of my keyboard keys are not working. Numbers 5 and 6 from the left and 5 and the small Enter key from the numeric keypad. Is it worth going for an original HP keyboard replacement or any generic replacement will do?
    3) Is it worth updating the drivers from the HP support site or getting the individually from each manufacturer? What's the best approach here? Also do you guys download a ZIP file for the latest QM67 chipset drivers or you go through that Intel check utility that auto-updates them? Is Intel® Chipset Device Software 10.1.1.14 the one I am looking for here?

    Any help with the above appreciated :)

    Cheers
     
  46. Saltsi

    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    Got my 8770w from Ebay for 275$ + shipping + taxes. All together about 380$. i7-3820qm, fullhd, Radeon m4000,near-mint condition. Hard drive was shot and only 4gb ram, but they are cheap anyway nowadays.
     
  47. Saltsi

    Saltsi Notebook Guru

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    Sometimes something like this happened to me too, the ribbon cable connecting the keyboard to the motherboard was not connected properly to the motherboard connector.

    Or can be a defective keyboard...
     
  48. Lucious

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    Thanks, I'll check it out.

    On another note everything was fine up until I installed almost all the Windows 7 update files. Now the laptop takes ages to boot and the event view manager has a lot of 7036 events (starting and stopping services) I guess I have to go for another Windows 7 clean install now that I have the HP support DVDs and carefully install the updates.

    I'll keep you updated on how this goes. :)
     
  49. Rideass

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    Well if anyone wonders, my setup, 8760w with 2960XM, 32GB RAM, GTX 980m 4Gb works beautifully with the HTC Vive for any VR considerations out there.
    Just make sure to get a good quality DP to miniDP cable that support 4K resolutions etc as lower quality solutions did not have the throughput to power both displays in the VR headset.

    Only "problem" I have is slight throttling of the CPU as it reaches 99C often while playing say Fallout 4. Both with the current 55W TDP CPU and previously the 2720QM 45W TDP.
    I have the quad CPU heatsink, but it seems insufficient. Wents are clear and new arctic silver paste have been applied with no improvement. GPU never passes 88C and does not throttle.
     
  50. vlex_

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    You make it sound easier than it might turn out to be. To buy a whole 8770w means to dig deeper in my pocket to get an entire DC machine, which would require liquid funds I don't think I'm gonna be able to (or "wonna" for that matter) invest in this endeavor of mine, where buying just the components separately seems somewhat more realistic.Yes, if we're talking about the 380$ that @Saltsi mentions, then I guess this might be viable solution, UNLESS it turns out again I've purchased another upgraded dualcore piece of junk, I need to start upgrading from scratch (not considering the parts I'd move from the 8760w to the new chassis). Again if we're takling about less than 400 bucks, it might be worth it (board is 80-ish, the top cover is 80-ish too, the proc is gonna be around 150-200, so it slowly comes to these 400 I mentioned above, but anything beyond that is plain dumb to pay for this.
    P.S. BTW, I have mostly reconsidered since I wrote that and have decided instead of having my 8760w as my main workstation, to upgrade one of my tower servers to dual xeon QCs with HTT, 96gigs of ram and a nice graphics card and to use it for the juiciest part of my workload and gaming. Will see how this turns out...

    Been there, done that, but with FarCry4. I even reapplied the AC MX4 solution I used to have on them, but to no avail, so I just ordered a syringe of CoolLaboratory's Liquid Ultra and have never had any issues since: 20 degrees drop from idle and ~30-32 degrees drop under load!!! Never switching back to them old fashioned gooey thermal solutions that don't have any of them unicorn tears, kitten farts or whatever the hell this thing is made out of (Bismuth and other metals) no more, I tell ya that for sure...
    So I couldn't recommend any other thermal solution more than I do this one.
     
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