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    *HP EliteBook 8760w Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by wkuballa, May 24, 2011.

  1. Savage.exe

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    Oh. I have the non dream color display, Can I still get atleast a 880m in my non dream color?
     
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    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    You can get 980m or if your budget is not up there, get a 780m. M4000m (970m) is also nice and overclockable GPU. STAY AWAY FROM 880m!
     
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    What's exactly wrong with the 880m? High temprature, Buggy, high failure rate?
     
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    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    So far the first two, the third might come later. Ironically it might be less prone to failure (don't quote me on that, I'm writing this for the giggles) unlike the others.
     
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    manjo Notebook Guru

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    Hello everyone,
    does anyone here know the pinout for BT connector of the 8760W?
    BT module is BCM92070MD
    It's on a 5 leads cable with 6 pin connector on the motherboard side.

    I have a BT module with cable from 8740W it fits (mechanicaly) but it's not recognised
    I'm sure it's the pinout issue (8740W pinout seams to be differen than 8760's)

    Thanks,
    manjo
     
  6. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    The pinout is the same, but the power delivery is different, so this might be the show stopper.
     
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    manjo Notebook Guru

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    How do you mean "pinout is the same but power delivery is different" ?

    the 8740w and 8760w use the same BCM92070MD module
    it must work if the pinout is the same (but it doesn't so...)
    i see red, green, white and black wires these seam to be standard USB wires plus one brown wire (i suspect this is a "wireless enable")
    (red+black=power supply and green+white=diff.data and brown seams to be "wireless enable")

    By "pinout" i mean signals on those 6 pins on the motherboard.
     
  8. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    So do I.

    By "power delivery" I mean just that, the power that comes to pin 1 is commanded differently. So your 8760w might not even know that there's a BT module, since the firmware has cut the juice, or something like that.
     
  9. manjo

    manjo Notebook Guru

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    When looking at the pins on the motherboard, connector connecting from the bottom, is "pin1" right or left ?
    my cable is not connected to the right side "pin1"
    from the right to left it's like this:
    1. NC
    2. red (+5V)
    3. white (usb data+)
    4. green (usb data-)
    5. brown (enable)
    6. black (GND)
    so when you say "the power that comes to pin1" ... means my problem is the cable
    (i don't have power on pin1 for sure) so I need to know the pinout on the motherboard to be able to connect the cable (rearange the connector pins) properly

    Then BT should show up in the bios, I'll enable it, and... should work from there...
    so you see, the BT connector pinout on the motherboard is the information I need :-(
     
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  10. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    You are counting them backwards. The way you cont them they go:

    1. NC
    2. LED
    3. USB-
    4. USB+
    5. GND
    6. Power

    Otherwise they are the other way around (6 to 1), but it doesn't matter.
     
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    manjo Notebook Guru

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    WOW,
    ok, 1 is on the other side so the last one is NC (thanks for that), but it seams that my cable is really messedup :-(
    i'll try to rearange the pins the way you wrote... I hope it works

    thanks
     
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    manjo Notebook Guru

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    Wire colors on the BCM module are consistent on both modules/wires that I have.
    On the connector/motherboard side each connector tells the different story :-(
     
  13. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Both have the same pinout on the motherboard, maybe the module is the one with the different pinout.
     
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    What temp does the Gtx 980m run at on the Hp Elitebook 8760w with MX 4 thermal paste, or ICD 7? Also, Should I update my BIOS all the way before upgrading?
     
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    Off Topic, Instead of getting a GTX 980m what if I get a 1060mxm has anyone tried that before?
     
  16. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    As I said before - no LVDS and so far it's not working with the 8740w's DC (eDP) either. So 1060 is off the list, but feel free to test it out @RMSMajestic is selling his.

    I'm not sure, I think there's more info on the matter a few pages back.
     
  17. RMSMajestic

    RMSMajestic Notebook Consultant

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    8760w is not pure UEFI and you cannot turn off the CSM support, which is a big problem with those UEFI cards. I tried to remove the GOP part myself and did managed to get the offical nvidia tool to detect it as UEFI not enabled, yet still no luck on 8740w.

    on AMD cards, might have luck if I know what the GOP is like and also how to fix the checksum for the new polaris cards
     
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    how do you modify the driver to avoid the black screen? (Laptop Screen has no video but VGA does) I really need help
     
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    Savage.exe Notebook Geek

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    Ive noticed an annoying issue with my laptop (Hp Elitebook 8760w). every time my cord gets un plugged and plugged back in the performance of the system seems a bit sluggish, for instance if I am playing fallout 4 when it happens my fps goes from 20-40fps down to 15fps. It's very annoying, and each time it happens I have to reboot. Is there a way to prevent this from happening? I assume it's related to when the CPU, and, or GPU throttles, Not sure though, I could always check the frequency of the CPU and GPU when it happens. My GPU is a Firepro M5950 (Overclocked to 864 Mhz, or thereabout Via MSI Afterburner) and the CPU is a Intel Core i7 2760qm (Not Overclocked, nor do I even reccomend Overclocking this CPU as it runs pretty hot).

    *Correction done to "Throttle" and all parents of that word.
     
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  21. Savage.exe

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    I notice that the frequency goes up to stock speeds when I un plug my ac adapter, but when I plug it up it throttles down to 400mhz. -.- Driver issues? I updated the bios last month too.

    *Correction done to "Throttle" and all parents of that word.
     
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    Hi guys,

    I am looking for little help. I have 8760w from my friend with AMD m5950 and while for some Lightroom and normal usage it is gorgeous,I would like to have ntb for some light gaming too. I have changed Hitachi HDD for Samsung Evo SSD, another RAM modules (to 16) and installed W10 in UEFI and I have updated bios for the newest version. Mostly will be playing Path of Exile and some izometric rpgs which are not that power hungry. For the PoE It just needs better graphic card. Playing in 1024 x 768 window, but it is still weak. I was looking at k3100m, cuz it can be bought for pretty OK price. Taking another suggestion of course. Already changed the paste and disassemblied notebooks for cleaning as the first thing, cuz their IT tech did not care... even kept faulty hdd there.

    But changing and working with MXM format is something I have no experience whatsoever. I also read about some "dreamcolor" version that complicate swapping for more cards? Is that a version of panel that will not work with some cards at all? How do I know that? How does it look if I need to flash a vBios on a card? From USB utility? Would i need an integrated solution? Do I need to swap heatsing if changing to nvidia? I have 2630qm Sandy bridge, but seems HD3000 is not there for some reason... Thanks for any links, hints and particular graphic card solution, ideally that would work by just swapping in. Editing NV drivers should be ok too. Card of something like 840 would suffice I guess. Went through like 30 pages of here and read tha tpeople could stick in nice cards as 980, but that is out of the budget. And ideally if the one would be stored in Europe. Taxes from US/China would make it much more expensive here. Hoping that i did not cunfuse you much and I am sorry for my English. Thank you, guys.
     
  23. Savage.exe

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    Here's a list of some GTX cards that are probably compatible - Any professionals correct me if I am wrong.
    Starting from Cheap - Expensive
    Model Video Ram Price Comments
    - GTX 860m - 2Gb GDDR5 - $178.00 This card is prob overclock able with its 45w tdp. Only 2Gb of video ram though.
    - GTX 770m - 3Gb GDDR5 - $238.00 This card is 9% faster on userbenchmark, 3Gb of vram is good for most new games, and given its tdp at 75w, It's overclock able.
    - GTX 880m - 8Gb GDDR5 - $369.99 Faster, and cheaper than the GTX 780m. the tdp is 30w over the limit of 100w. This card would get alot of thermal throttling. Not worth it.
    - GTX 780m - 4Gb GDDR5 - $399.00 This is the best card to get for 'Budget' builds with the 8760w, although I think it's a bit expensive myself. (Perhaps overclocking will match the preformance of a 880m)
    - GTX 970m - 6Gb GDDR5 - $521.81 Might as well just get the 980m,
    - GTX 980m - 8Gb GDDR5 - $529.99 This is the best card you can get for an Hp Elitebook 8760w, this card is also way over most people's budget.

    Notice:
    - All prices don't include shipping costs.
    - All prices may varry
    - All graphics cards must be Dell / Alieanware Cards. (If not you'll have to flash a bios)
     
  24. Waki__

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    Thank you Savage for the info. I think 860m or 770m would be enough for my needs. How about the cooler? Some thermal pads and paste change and I should be ok even with AMD one? Thanks
     
  25. Savage.exe

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    No, You will have to use the Nvidia one, the nvidia one is bigger and fits the whole card, and it has 2 heat pipes. as for the 860m, I am not 100% sure if that works in the Hp Elitebook 8760w cause no one tested it, But I assume that it prob will work. The 770m was however tested (Not by me), If I could I would test them both myself to double check, the 770m 3gb has a higher chance of working.
    If anyone has tested the GTX 860m please let us know if you have tested it or not.
     
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    Hi everyone, I have just got a 8760w with a i5 2540m 2nd gen, has anyone upgraded the cpu to a quad 2nd gen ?
     
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    I was thinking of the i7 2630QM its seems a good match, TDP is 45w only 10 higher than the one already in there
     
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    Just fyi - check this out. It's an 8740w, but I was planning on transplanting my 16:10 DC2 in an 8760/8770w when the CPU starts really bottlenecking... The heatsink should be an even easier/better fit for those machines since they have the same GPU orientation like the w701DS (unlike the 8740w - had to grind away everything but the core copper plate and the surrounding support structure). Not sure about the DVD drive height though but.... dremel :)

    Not sure if the GTX9** series will work with the dreamcolor properly - there are issues with DC2-equipped 8740w's (greyscale).
     
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    I dont have dream color myself
     
  30. triturbo

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    Actually it can surpass overclocked 880m. The entire 8 series, especially 880m, is not worth considering.

    A user tested 980m in 8770w DC and said that it works fine. Maybe recent drivers fixed the issue?
     
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    Has no one upgraded a i5 cpu ? :(
     
  32. triturbo

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    You mean from i5? You can, but you need new heat-sink, your current one wont handle i7.
     
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    I figured that the 780m would pass the 880m overclocked, but would it be safe is the question. On another note, I did some work last night on my HP Elitebook 8760w, I removed the bottom filters to allow for more air flow into the fan. Perhaps, also re pasted the gpu, and completely cleaned each blade spotless and cleaned the heatsinks out, (Blew out and wiped off with fingers). There was alot of cat hair and dust in my system, and my cpu temp was going upto 200f, so It was time to clean it out.

    Specs:
    Intel Core i7 2760qm
    Firepro M5950
    12Gb Ram DDR3 1333 (Can I do 1600?)
    320Gb Stock hdd - Slow as hell.
    Stock 3 band wifi card - Cant think of the name off of the top of my head.
     
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    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    A lot of people were running them heavily clocked around the forum. How long they lasted that way? Can't say for certain, but about 3 years, some more, some less. In any case, there are a lot of things that need performance bump, so you'll have quite the project on your hands.
     
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    I was thinking of doing +100 mhz over stock speeds, That's what I normally do on all builds, and if it can be overclocked more, why not overclock more. It may sound stupid, but I actually bought the laptop with gaming in mind, a $600-700 dollar total price for a high end (In my mind) gaming laptop is not bad of a price, and I also like the look and feel of the Hp Elitebook 8760w and 8770w, It feels, and looks more sturdy than most other gaming laptops. In other thoughts, Would I be able to get a alieanware ac adapter to work with my laptop, or would I have to go with the 230w power brick HP offers?
     
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    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    It doesn't sound stupid at all, you can get a lot more than these 100MHz.

    Same here. I do use it for work, but also gaming. Love the design and the extra business features.

    HP's 230W would be more than enough.
     
  37. swukjay

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    Thanks for the reply, I was thinking of going for one with a TDP of 45w so I was hoping the heatsink would be able to handle it, I`m not after the highest just a bit better multitasking
     
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    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Either way, you better get the beefier heat-sink. Feel free to try it with your current one, just keep an eye on the temps.
     
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    Yes I will, thanks for the help. I also notice the quad heatsink has two pipes so yes it would probably make a big difference
     
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    Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but...

    8770w with the 8740w's 16:10 1920x1200 DC2 screen:
    [​IMG]
    Hackjob but that's what a few hours and just about no tools gets you :D

    More info later, suffice to say that the display barely fits in the frame, and that all antennas, the camera & mics board and the hooks for the display latch had to go. The antennas/mics/cam can be relocated, but the hooks will require some creativity (current idea is a custom steel frame that will be able to hold them... somehow).

    Should work with the 8760w as well - actually confirmed to work a few years back... there just weren't any pics afaik.
     
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    I have 8770W with ATI 4000M, I connected via DP trough docking station, a 4K monitor, Asus PB287Q, I was able to go into settings and change the resolution to 3840 X 2160 (4K) only 2 options as refresh rate... 30 or 60 Hertz, it does work, but at 30 Hertz you get less glitch as at 60 Hertz, mostly when is 4K content on full screen, I ran videos from YouTube, as well samples downloaded in computer... DP cable is 1.2 rated as well... sometimes it does not glitch at all, sometimes it does...
     
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    Hello me again, I have a big problem, I bought a display port adaptor so I could use my tv with laptop as dual monitor but when I plug in display port the tv is detected but I have no signal, I thought it may have been the adaptor so I bought a different make, still no signal ! I have tried different HDMI leads nothing, dead as dodo, everything shows in system tv detected 1080p res but no signal, any ideas ? I am starting to think its a hardware fault, I dont really want to return it but if it doesn't work what can I do ? I have ordered a docking station to see if I can get a signal via that, any help would be great appreciated,
    thanks
     
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    Just Bought:
    750gb hdd
    Cooling Pad
    Thermal Paste
    Headphones

    To Buy List:
    Gtx 770m or 780m (I'd prefer the 780m Myself.)
    230w Power Supply
    Thermal Pads
    Hp Elitebook 8770w/8760w Nvidia 2 Heat pipe gpu heatsink
    more hdds for RAID 5
     
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    hi guy.
    my lap 8760W
    i7 2630QM
    ram 8
    quadro 3000m
    Now i want to upgrade 3000M to 780M.
    I'm just afraid the temp of 780m will be hot for my laptop. Has anyone upgraded can advise me ?
     
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    8770w, 3720qm, 780m. DOOM at max settings (except for a few that need >5GB vRAM). Stock settings - GFX temp 93deg. -0.075v undervolt - ~85deg. If you're fine with that and the driver modding, you're good to go.

    Of course, you can underclock/undervolt the GPU further if you're not comfortable with the temperatures (or if they're higher than expected). I was running -200memory/-75core with some heavy undervolting in my 8740w to keep temperatures around 80... the 940xm wasn't helping me much.
     
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    I have an elitebook 8760w and having trouble upgrading to nvidia k3100m.The card works in my friends 8770w but I only get blank screen and no output on any ports. any ideas?
     
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    Man this 8760W is full of problems. So here goes:

    On my keyboard keys 5 and 6 and also 5 on the numeric keypad did not work. I removed the keyboard and put it back in and afterwards everything seemed to work. Some days later, again they keys 5,6 and also 5 on the numeric don't work. I then removed and put back in the keyboard like 10-12 times, trying to align perfectly the ribbon cables but again to no success. Again numbers 5 and 6 and also 5 on the numeric keypad do not register at all.

    Would this problem be solved with a new keyboard or is there something wrong with the motherboard or something else I might be missing here. Has anyone tried taking apart the keyboard?

    Edit: Ok, here is something interesting. If I start repeatedly pressing these keys hard for 10-20 seconds they suddenly become fine and require normal pressure afterwards in order to type. If I leave them idle for 20-30 seconds I need to do the same thing again (put a lot of force on them and hit them hard many times) in order for them to start working. I'm suspecting bad traces in the keyboard so a replacement might actually fix this. What do you think?
     
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    Lucious, based on what you wrote -if you buy a new keyboard your problem should be gone (seams mechanical issue to me)

    I can't find any solution anywhere so here goes:
    I'm running Linux (Fedora 25) Linux on 8760w and it works very nice BUT since I installed the dreaded Nvidia-340xx proprietary driver it has no backlight control :-( this seams to be "classic" problem on many laptops, but there are tweaks to make it work.. ok,

    With nouveau mesa driver and acpi_backlight=vendor kernel option it works as expected,
    but nothing I ever do with proprietary driver seams to work :-(

    Has anyone EVER managed to setup the nvidia proprietary driver on 8760w to control the backlight properly ?
     
  49. phomuabay

    phomuabay Notebook Enthusiast

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    gtx 1060 mobile
    Power 65 - 75 W ( quadro 4000m is 100W)
    MXM 3.0 type B.
    maybe 8760w can use it ?
     
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    k3100m is MXM 3.1 , not MXM 3.0. 8760W cant use it.
     
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