*HP EliteBook 8760w Owners Lounge*

Just be sure you have free space enough on the array and you should be good to go. In any way 4KiB reads and writes will drop at some point without adequate TRIM support.

 

Yes - the distance is not too big and the heatpipes can be simply BEND to that. The factory heatpipes are narrower but taller, and the ones I suggest are more flat so they can fit under the cover. I have seen also 2mm high heatpipes somewhere on Ali. Just don't mistake solid copper plates with heatpipes filled with "something"

 

Het guys,

can you tell any facts regarding SATA 6Gb transfers on 8760w ?? Are they lower than supposed to ??
ex. I got Sandisk SSD SATA 6Gb supposingly achieving up to 550MB/s while
it got only 275 MB/s in SATA 6Gb mode AHCI
and 325 MB/s in SATA 6Gb mode IDE
the second result only in the 1st HDD bay achieved.

Do you know certain clues to gain a good disk (240-256 GB) with good read speeds (> 500MB/s) in 8760w ??

cheers !!

 

Yes, the settings are messed up after F.60 bios and now are reversed. to get real SATA 6Gb working, you need to set it to SATA 3Gb in the bios.

 

That's too much...
Apparently I would need to switch to 8770w feel like my goals are met there. Except I am not sure whether my 980M non-GSync non-Optimus would be compatible with non-DreamColor display. Can you tell ??

 

You won't have any troubles transferring your non-Gsync 980M in 8770W. Especially if it is non Dreamcolor.

Try with setting Sata 3Gb in the bios and tell me what speed you achieve for your SSD.

I am reborn since I upgraded to 8770W. Everything is working perfect now - no more 1333MHz limitation, TRIM support for RAID0 with two SSD, mSata slot, no white-list for the WiFi- now I am using Intel 7260AC, PCIe 3.0 vs 2.0 on 8760W, no more sound chops on YouTube (better sound card drivers), fully compatible fingerprint sensor with Win 10, working brightness controls with DC screen and Maxwell gpus, better 45W CPU than any XM 2nd gen. Everything is perfect now.

 

Well you are sure doing a great job selling me on one... Time to scour eBay

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Yep, I got much better speeds with this setting - 510 MB/s average.

 

8760W with FHD display, hoping to replace failing Quadro 3000M with a K3000M. The K3000M part number (689280-001) tracks with an HP8770W (hp partsurfer), with a vbios of 80.04.33.00.2E. Will this K3000M plug/play in the 8760W?

 

Be careful with that, M4000 from 8770W doesn’t work on 8760W.

 

Hi guys.

I have observed on my 8760w that CPU temp behave very strange. Do u have any idea what could be the reason it jumps from one value to another - 45, 55, 52, 47 - it does not increase fluently and predictable as the GPU does ?? Can you tell where the CPU temp sensor is located on 8760w ?? Until I do this I see no point to close the heat-building site (also I wait for copper from China)...

 

I think it’s pretty normal being this way, depending on the background tasks, mine does the same when there is any light system activity.

 

I have a question about the startup lights between the caps lock and num lock. According to the HP docs, something isn't right, but it seems to be working fine booting into win7.

The case took some serious hits when the seller shipped it to me to the point the left latch won't latch anymore and there are dents on the frame in the two of the corners. But it seems to be working fine aside from the odd leds upon started. Just wanted to see if anyone has some feedback. I love this thing and don't want it to suddenly die on me.

 

Does someone has already tried to put 4 x 16GB DDR3 in a 8770w? I am wondering if with last bios we can get a 64GB machine?

 

No, the i7 CPU supports max 32GB.

 

OK Finally I got THERE and please read my lips:
The MSI GTX 980m 4GB non-DC non-GSYNC works flawlessly not-OVERHEATING using stock heatsink on 8760w, with few remarks below. Please accept my apologies for the overheating untrust seed in the former posts. What I did wrong was mounting the GPU heatsink very unprecisely. Mounting everything very equal (even I counted the turns with the 4 screws) gained that 5/6 celsius degrees I complained about. I did bought (tons of ) different copper plates and pipes from Ali, and bind them so it fitted the inner space BUT THEN I realized one thing - no matter how much copper would I inject into the laptop - IT will eventually heat-up to the same level after (let's say) 30 mins of extreme GPU . The heat is a bit like water - it needs to be released somewhere not poured in the jars. I found no reasonable space for an extra pipes transferring heat to the radiators without thermal validation of the case !!! I also did replace the fan from 8770w as MirageBG suggested - and yes - the RPMS where a bit higher but also noticed a fan center diameter difference between the fans - that makes the fan speed larger but lowers the air-sucking area !! so Eventually after numerous burn-in tests I decided to use the stock 8760w as there were no difference in temp. Going back to the GTX installation remarks:

• notice if it has the same x-bracket - use the one from the previous card if it is different - it must not change the vertical position of the card
• my GTX comes from MSI GT72 notebook and modding the driver is necessary here. I used the following modding manual with each Nvidia drivers update on Win7 and Win10: https://null-src.com/posts/nvidia-notebook-driver-inf-mod/post.php
• there is no need to use a top-conductive thermal paste (like I did even tried the liquid metal !!) I used normal Gelid GC-Extreme TC-GC-03-D as it is denser
  
• do not solid-close-mount the notebook after first temperature test !! wait for it. meanwhile physically take notebook in your hands and make few jumps with it whatever the paste/sink has to go through to stabilize it's position - it has to give the same effect for a long time. In my case first test gave me 80 degrees but after 1 hour it just strangely dropped to 88 degrees - the paste needed time to layout itself
  
• use the fresh 1 mm thermal pads I did use Gelid Thermalpad 7W/mK 120x20x1mm TP-GP03-B
• the most important is PRECISE and EVEN mounting of the GPU heatsink - after 3rd approach I realized to count that 4 screws twists using a 'dot' tag on the screw top. I gave a bit extra space (~ 1mm) for screws #3 and #4 remembering that #1 has to be the same elevation as #2 implying #3 equal to #4 !! That combination lowered my 15mins of FurMark Burn-in temperature from 87 degrees to constant max 81 degrees - which I tolerate as a human being
• also remember that sliding off the bottom cover gives extra 4/5 degrees in hotter days
• it is good to use docking station - it is reaaally cheap - beside other docking advantages it naturally keeps the notebook higher and fine air flow

Gosh - what I went true to realize it was all a part of a joker's plan.

So summarizing: precise GPU installation and heatsink mounting releases the problem of GTX 980M vs Quadro M5000M TDP shift - If you mentally tolerate max 81 celsius degrees (no OC involved)

 

Or just use the Docking station

 

A 4Gb GTX 980m exsists? Normally what I find them in is 8Gb. If I were to get a GTX 980m 8Gb (Alienware) and flashed it to MSI would that work?

 

Yes, it would work with Dell's vbios also...no need to reflash it with MSI vbios.

@FranekX Great work! I knew you will find a way to complete your machine in the best way.

 

I had a Dell (Alienware) GTX 770m before. It died on me a few days ago. (Capicider Exploded.) There was no damage to the motherboard below. To get the GTX 770m to work I had to flash the Clevo bios.
I would buy a GTX 980m, but I don't know if it's worth it really. The GTX 980m on eBay costs like $300+ USD. Upgrading this computer will cost more than it would cost to build a desktop with all of the parts in my laptop that has to be replaced. With everything replaced I am expecting it would cost $500, With that I don't think that it's worth fixing and upgrading.

 

For me it was worth it only because it’s an Elitebook and 8760/8770W are my favorites among all laptop workstations.
980m will run perfectly on your laptop, no matter if Dell or Clevo card.

 

Nice! Thanks for letting me know this. The way it sounds, it doesn't seem like it's going to be as hard to install. It shouldn't be much different from installing the GTX 770m.

Right now I don't have much money, not enough to get a GTX 980m. I was thinking of either getting a GTX 770m again or a GTX 870m. I know people say to stay away from the 8 series altogether.
The 870m looks appealing though, it shows that it's 37% faster than the GTX 770m on User benchmark. I don't know how accurate user benchmark is. The GTX 870m is $140 on eBay. It's a MSI graphics card.

I could just get the gtx 770m again but I wasn't too happy with the performance. Even when I had it overclocked it wasn't much faster, maybe I overclocked it wrong. I wasn't able to get it over 941 MHz on the core stable. I was able to go 2400 MHz (Thereabout) on the memory though, It was faster after I overclocked the vram.

If I decide to get a GTX 770m they're only like $100 on ebay.

I guess we'll just see how things pan out.

 

The 870m has 1344 CUDA cores instead of the 960 of the 770m, and it has a core clock of 941Mhz, so it will be faster than your 770m by a good margin.

Its worth the 40$ price jump.

 

8770W here. After overclocking my G.Skill DDR3L 1600MHz CL9 RAM to 1866MHz CL10 and heavily overclocking M5000M to 1400MHz core and 2700MHz mem, I got this results, which are ok for 7 y.o. laptop, I think...

 

Nice scores! How did you bump the RAM speed?

 

Thanks! I did use Thaiphoon Burner and re-flashed the default modules' SPD with custom one. This alone gave a nice boost of 100-120pts of Physics in 3DM11. Now I have to figure it out which modded CPU fan to use - preferably more than 10CFM, because the GPU on 1400MHz and 1.105V easily hits 88-90C, the CPU- 94-95C. Before the mod with default voltage of 0.987V, the GPU never reached 70C, the CPU- 85-88C.
I found a fan from M17x r3 on eBay, which is labeled as 10CFM. What do you think, would it work on my 8770W:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Lufter-CPU-Fan-Dell-Alienware-15-R2-P42F-Alienware-17-r2-r3-0MYX41-0XXXXX/152691057701?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20170511121231&meid=8b0a43b42104412c87cadb6d7a2da712&pid=100675&rk=2&rkt=15&sd=172852141361&itm=152691057701&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:32de1807-9075-11e9-8304-74dbd180a9cd|parentrq:61f96dd316b0ad305847a603ffd2ed11|iid:1

 

That's a pretty nice bump. So you flashed the altered profile and it booted like that?

This one is for the newer systems. I think that there was another one from older systems that everyone is using for an upgrade. An M14x main fan or M17x R3/R4 GPU fan, not sure. In any case, I'm looking forward to your results.

 

Yes, just altered the SPD, reflashed and everything went smooth - the system recognised immediately the new frequency and timings. Later I tried to bump it to 2133Mhz, but it didn’t boot with two sticks (1T). Eventually it booted with four (2T) , but it was way too unstable and gave me a bunch of BSODs...Even raising the memory’s voltage to 1.5V didn’t help.

By saying it is from the newer batch, you are assuming that it wouldn’t work or you don’t have enough observations about this particular fan model?

 

Did you loosen the rest of the timings as well (11-11-... whatever is standard for 2133)?

This and also the newer models got slimmer, so the fans might've followed suit. It's not necessarily a bad thing, I mean it still says 10CFM, it's just that I think the older ones can run at higher RPM and get even more air, they just become noisier, it can be true for this one just as well. The best source would be the Alienware guys, it's where I saw it mentioned (getting more RPM). Check there for tried and proven information.

 

Yes, I did. I tried even 12,13,14CL with no luck. The sticks simply refused to work at 2133MHz.
The funniest thing is that they work on Acer V3-571G without problem at 2133MHz 11-11-11 1T (2X16).
I think it is just a HP with its bios refusing to accept 2133MHz memory bus.

 

This is the limit of my system
Every other, more powerful GPU will be bottlenecked by the platform (CPU/MEM/Chipset) and it's not worth the investment.

 

It seems like it. Wonder if an XM would do any difference?

Indeed, pretty balanced, everything more is just for giggles Mine does 9100 FS in its current state (920XM @3.6GHz, 1070 @90W, RAM @1066), so there's that. Enjoy!

 

I heard it would in some cases. But I am not going to deal with 55W CPU anymore
For some negligible difference between 1866 and 2133, I will certainly experience some great temps rising which I wouldn’t enjoy..

 

How is it possible that a Pascal GPU scores lower than a Maxwell in FS? Very interesting. Isn't heat management a problem with a 90W gpu?

 

Because of power limitations of the older HP workstations. 1070 can consume more than 150-160W, whereas our systems are capable of holding around 120-130W at max.
I think that the older 1st gen CPU is too weak to hold on with the much newer Pascal technology and most probably bottlenecks it. Still valid for 2nd and 3rd gen CPUs.

 

Pretty sad, running such a recent GPU in a system like this would be awesome, but this makes it almost redundant next to 980m or a m5000m isnt it. Of course, if you don't want to use Pascal features

 

Higher graphics score, lower physics (like half of what 3840QM can do (don't forget slower RAM as well)) and you get this result

Depends on the CPU, sometimes even 90W is enough (BTW stock is 90W and runs fine). Hoping to resolve that. Needs a lot of cooling and hardware modding.

Still is. Where it's not CPU bound I can see 50-60FPS in Shadow of the Tomb Raider, but in a CPU bound (Paititi) drops to 25-30FPS.

 

It’s just a question of balance and if it’s worth it to spend sog much money for hardware and not using its full capabilities. But on the other hand if the 3D tasks are more GPU intensive, then it will be much better than any Maxwell GPU.

 

Indeed, the new cards might also push a better performance/watt ratio. I was about to write some remarks about not being able to use 4k res on this machine but just for the heck of it, I connected my 4k desktop screen. And for my surprise it gave a native 4k signal, the Nvidia cont panel recognises it can choose the 4k option, the monitor won't display the "non-native resolution" error message, and it looks the same as on my desktop. But going on to some resolution testing websites they give that my screen is 2k, and my refresh rate is not an even 60 hz its something like 59.96 or similar. How is this possible?
This laptop is full of surprises I might be able to use this as my main computer and will switch to a 1070 card in the future if its possible. I also found a support thread about the 4k res and its the same as me:
https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Noteb...o-K3000m-can-I-use-a-UHD-display/td-p/5060319

My bad overlooked your post mate. Is getting the 1070 to perform well was a hard job to do? Is the CPU bottleneck that bad, have you considered 3940qm for overcoming this? It's a lot of cash for a 10% performance boost. I've checked the ram prices(currently running 800 MHz modules), those are not that crazy if someone wants the 1866 cl11 versions. I haven't even seen lower latency figures for this speed.

Cooling def could be improved, taking out the ODD, getting 2-3 heatpipes, bending them and soldering/somehow attaching them to some generic copper heatsinks from aliexpress, then same with the other end to the GPU. Cut a hole in the chassis, get a blower, then arrange them in a way that it somehow performs well, 3d print a cover for the opening of the ODD. Sound ghetto but this is what came to my mind when I disassembled and repasted it. I'm pretty interested in your plans tho.

 

Is 200 F on the CPU and GPU normal under a full load? This seems a bit too high to me. Has anyone tried liquid metal?
*Edit Tempratures reach 200F not 190F.

 

For the CPU under intensive load is normal I would say.
For the GPU is too high though...

 

From what I've read it's not normal. Depends on the card, but it should throttle back at 90-91 C and you're at 93,3.

 

Hi everybody. I need your help. I purchased on my HP 8760w a video card Clevo GTX 970m, installed the driver and after loading the OS a black screen on the notebook. When through Displayport I turn on the external monitor, it starts to show a picture. Screen notebook DC2. I tried on the OS win 10 x64 and win 8.1 x64 - black screen . The video gtx 970m card does not see my screen DC2. With video card quadro 3000m everything is OK. With the driver sees the screen DC 2.
What to do? Help.

 

Are you on UEFI or Legacy Win 10?
DC2 and Maxwell GPUs require UEFI OS.
Then you need to load 388.13 nVidia driver

 

Put 388.13 nVidia driver on the win 8.1 UEFI. Anyway black screen

 

Don’t use win 8.1.
Install Win 10 on UEFI and let it auto install the graphic driver upon the main installation.

 

Did as you wrote. Again black screen

 

Which vBios has your GPU?
Make a screenshot from GPU-Z and post it here

 

Did you modify the .inf file of the GPU driver?
Do you know how to reflash vbios of Maxwell GPU?

You need to try the 970m version of this vbios:

https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/files/file/16-nvidia-gtx-970m-oc-edition-rev0zip/