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    *HP EliteBook 8760w Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP Business Class Notebooks' started by wkuballa, May 24, 2011.

  1. bobmook

    bobmook Notebook Consultant

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    What it came down to is there is a program named NBdmiFit.213 which is the one that supports 8760W's. HP won't allow non HP people to download it ........They also won't repair such old machines referring one to buy a new MB...... every place it is supposedly available for download (leaked copies) charges for access .......I'm unwilling to take a chance on a site like that
     
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    pcmaster Newbie

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    Has anyone tried to run wx4150 on 8760w? I know it is MXM 3.0a version but what really matters for me is a temp. I don't need the best gpu specs whatsoever. As we know all of 8x60w support only LVDS LCD. I've come across a topic where someone has successfully run M4800 G1 lvds with this graphic.

    It also means that there is a chance that gpu's like wx4170 or wx7130 could possibly work as well.

    Take a look :

    https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...ttps://forum.51nb.com/thread-1832992-1-1.html
     
  3. Mastermind5200

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    No chance, needs either Enduro/iGPU enabled or a eDP panel
     
  4. mirage_bg

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    Check this thread out:

    https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1816866&extra=page=1 (use english translator)

    It seems it happens with two DIMMs motherboards. Some power limit above 80C.
    Is your mobo with only two DIMM Ram slots?
     
  5. mirage_bg

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    Now Í see your system bios is from 2012 F.32
    Try to update it to the latest Ver. F.68
     
  6. Simmytu

    Simmytu Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a general question about the keyboards of the 8560w / 8760w. Are the keyboards of the 15" models compatible with the 17" ones? I'm curious to know if they have the same screw mounting locations.
     
  7. mirage_bg

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    No they are not the same
     
  8. Simmytu

    Simmytu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Bummer, thanks for the info.
     
  9. ExEmEx

    ExEmEx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay I contacted the seller about My issue with the GTX 980M and they said that you need at least 240 watts to use the GTX 980M. HP Elitebook only has 230 Watt. Is this true?
     
  10. mirage_bg

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    No, 230W is more than enough for GTX 980.
    I did use mine (while I had 980M) even with 200W PSU without single trouble.
    I told you - update your bios to the latest version first.
     
  11. ExEmEx

    ExEmEx Notebook Enthusiast

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    Already ruled out the bios. Also modified the FX 2800M heatsink from the 8740 and put it in there, same voltage and clock speed instability over 90%. I've also noticed the 980M has TWO device IDs in the inf files , mine is 13D7 from what I remember, not sure why that is, (updated model?)
     
  12. mirage_bg

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    No, you‘ve simply got the non gsync version og 980M - 13D7.
    The other one - 1617 is the gsync one.
    Our 8770W is capable of accepting both versions without problem, so it doesn‘t matter if gsync or non gsync.
    I would return the gpu to the seller.
    I am not surprised of his explanations and trying to escape return/refund, especially if he is Chinese. This bull....s with 230W not being enough are bla bla. He is simply trying to avoid refund.
     
  13. FranekX

    FranekX Notebook Enthusiast

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    Dear mirage_bg.

    I need to ask you for an advice as we had common heatsink experiences and ideas...

    I've had 980M on my 8760w and since (most probably since) upgrade to bios F66 the GPU always reaches 88 degrees. Athough I did every tuning of the heatsink as You did (as an extension of my humble idea) - addition heatpipes, zbook fan mod and even when cooled from fresh air with opened case - I always get those schmucken 88 degrees - I am pretty sure I do nothing wrong with mounting I repeat same steps as before. Do you have any knowledge of possible scenario that may happen with a card after hard gaming ? howto disgnose ? temperature tolerance ? asic ?
    - I EVEN DOWNCLOCKed the memory for 500 MHz and 100MHz on the core and still it slowly gets to 88 degrees and throttles.
    - what tool can I measure real temperature with right on the core ?

    - any idea, please comment anything I fell desperate really need a direction :)

    regards
     
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  14. mirage_bg

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    Hi,

    It is most probably wrong thickness of the thermal pads or uneven contact with the gpu’s die.

    Can you make some photos when the heatsink is off?
     
  15. ExEmEx

    ExEmEx Notebook Enthusiast

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    I sent back the faulty 980m and am looking at an M5000M instead. The seller says it's not compatible with my 8770W, it's an N16E-Q5-A1 green board, appears to be from a Z-Book from the pictures, Is this true?
     
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  17. Savage.exe

    Savage.exe Notebook Geek

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    So today I got all of the parts to fix my HP Elitebook 8760w since I got a clevo GTX 970M from a dead laptop. But I am 100% confused.. Windows keeps installing the drivers it's self, I thought you always had to manually edit and install the drivers.
     
  18. ExEmEx

    ExEmEx Notebook Enthusiast

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    There is no Gsync version is there?
    Okay thank you. I also just found out there is a Nvidia HPE Tesla M6 that is similar to the M5000M in design, is this card good for gaming or not?
     
  19. mirage_bg

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    No, Tesla M6 is 20% slower than M5000M
     
  20. ExEmEx

    ExEmEx Notebook Enthusiast

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    OK I appreciate your feedback. I want to buy the M5000M but there is an offer for a GTX 980M that's about 15%+ cheaper. I hear the Quadros are better silicon but do they overclock just as good? Also if the M5000M has the Zbook bios will I have to blind flash it or something?
     
  21. mirage_bg

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    Better get 980M if it is cheaper.
    M5000M O/C very well, but it won’t work with HP vbios. Either you need to ask the seller to reflash it with Dell’s vbios or you need to do it yourself with HW programmer.
    Better get 980M. Same performance for less money.
     
  22. ExEmEx

    ExEmEx Notebook Enthusiast

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    I do want to overclock, so silicon quality is of importance to me, I wanna make sure I'm getting the most for my money in terms of longevity even when overclocking
     
  23. mirage_bg

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    Even the best OC won’t give you more than 2-3% performance gain, so it is absolutely pointless.
    In the most optimistic way you will get 1300-1350Mhz core clock out of the Quadro M5000M and less memory OC because it uses Hynix modules which clock worse than Samsung’s - so 2700Mhz memory at best.
    On the other hand 980M uses Samsung modules for memory and will most probably reach 3000Mhz.
    The core in worse case will clock around 1200-1250Mhz.
    So at the end you have pretty similar performance between the two GPUs.
    Just get the one which is cheaper.
     
  24. ExEmEx

    ExEmEx Notebook Enthusiast

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    OK what about longevity in terms of silicon quality? I Want the GPU to be as stable as possible and able to withstand high clocks and temperature over long periods of time.
    What's funny is I read about a reply you posted on another 8770W thread about the M5000M you had having insane silicon quality and the overclocks you got, I guess you were lucky right?
     
  25. mirage_bg

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    The longevity should be the same as long as you keep the temps under 85C.
    Yes, I got extremely lucky with this ASIC quality of 77,3%. I have never seen another unit this high after this one.
     
  26. ExEmEx

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    What's hilarious is my CPU temperature is at least 7-10 degrees HOTTER than my GPU across the board and even gets to 95+ under OCCT power supply stress testing(which I do rarely) under regular load through moderate gaming the CPU is 74+ all the time so does this mean the CPU is at much more risk since it's thermal limits are usually lower than the GPU?
     
  27. mirage_bg

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    No, the TJMAX of the CPU is 105C, for the GPU is 95C.
    It is normal for the CPU to be hotter than GPU.
    You need liquid metal thermal solution for both. This will put everything in place.
     
  28. Savage.exe

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    One time I had the same issue with my Dell GTX 770m not working awhile back. I didn't have a hardware programmer, so I enabled remote desktop and flashed the vbios that would work with the laptop that way. I actually used "Chrome Remote Desktop" but microsoft remote desktop will work better probably because you won't be forced to use 640x480 while remoted in.
     
  29. ExEmEx

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    Is that true only for laptops? Because on desktops the GPU is usually the component with higher TJ max how does it switch around for laptops? I also found another M5000M that's cheaper. The seller told me it has a "special" bios that works on Dell and HP laptops and he tested it on a 8770W, I was wondering if you have any insight on that.
     
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  30. flamebox

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    Hi, I'm looking for some advise help and guidance, without having to read threw 163 page thread. I have an 8760w with a 5010m GPU, and want to upgrade the GPU, preferably to another Quadro, hassle free, no science projects. needs to be Nvidia Kepler for hackintosh Can any one advise?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  31. bobmook

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    I've had really good luck with the K5100m. This about the fastest Nvidia card this laptop will accept which MacOS supports (At least through Catalina) and the good news is, even after all these years it's *still* nearly as good (And actually better in some benchmarks)as the Radeon Pro 5300m they are putting in the 16 inch macbooks now. Get one with a Dell or Clevo Vbios and the install is pretty simple aside from the usual Windows 10 driver inf modding. I had to back off to a 392.xx version of the Nvidia driver to get one to install. MacOS picks the card right up natively...... (Edit - I forgot to note I'm using the K5100m in an 8770w but the two noebooks are so similar *and* I've used the K4000m in an 8760w which I've since sold....I have no doubts at all it will work fine in an 8760w)
     
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    Thanks found one on Amazon, and orderd it seller says it should be just plug and play. Many Thanks
     
  33. nowifirange

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    Hello, can I use a quadro m1000m with the amd heatsink? Im going to buy a 8770w/8760w probably the 8770w
     
  34. mirage_bg

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    Which heatsink? There are two versions - for MXM-A and MXM-B GPUs.
     
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  35. nowifirange

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    Hello Mirage, for MXM-A part number 688733-001, on the service manual it says for Amd but I dont know if this would work on nvidia gpu quadro m1000m.
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  36. mirage_bg

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    Yes, it should work with m1000m. At worst you will have to grind a bit of the heatsink's underside to adjust the surface to match the GPUs elements, but I doubt it is going to be needed...
     
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  37. Troens

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    Good evening everyone. I need help! I am looking for where to buy a cable from a decoder to a matrix DС2
    Found 2 sellers on taobao, but they don't have a cable. Please help me find sellers who have a cable. :(
    [​IMG]
     
  38. flamebox

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    oops
     
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  39. flamebox

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    Would love to have your EFI ?
    all fitted works fine , only my hackintosh is not, was working before, can't figure it out do you have any advice, or could give some guidance to get High sierra with cuda working, ....wierd it was all working fine with my 5010m. Thanks
     
  40. faceman11

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    Hi. I am tying to mod my nvblwi.inf... what/where are the three lines I need to change?

    Thx,
     
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    Hi, my machine just died, only the fan runs for 5 seconds after turning it on and machine turns off. The top right hand leds light up while fan is running. Nothing on screen. If any key is pressed while powering on then the keyboard backlight turns on as well. I've tried re-seating everything - memory,drives,graphics card, replaced rtc battery and tried different adaptor but with no luck

    Any ideas on what issues cause this problem? Should I attempt to replace motherboard or graphics card first?

    Thanks
     
  43. mirage_bg

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    Any key blinks?
     
  44. BabyBell

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    Nope none at all.

    Although occasionally for a couple of months prior to this the boot disk wouldn't be detected after a hibernate or turn off. The number of boot options available on the boot screen would be a variable amount. Doing an immediate reboot it would always come up with all options and reboot just fine. Both hard disks always tested fine and never a problem once the laptop booted.
     
  45. mirage_bg

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    This could be the motherboard then, unfortunately...
     
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  46. loopster

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    Maybe the USB 3.0 or 2.0 board has failed. Leave them out and try booting.
     
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    Yes, @loopster has a point.
    I remember now I had this problem with one 8760W and it turned out to be a faulty USB 3.0 board.
     
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    Thanks guys. I'll try removing the usb board this evening and see if that does the trick. Else I'll start looking for a motherboard. Unfortunately there seems to be a lack of them in the UK at the moment. Only options seem to be from China or USA
     
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  49. BabyBell

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    That seemed to do it, the machine is working again much like before but I'm at a loss on what to replace. Plus seeing lower temps on CPU & GPU than before with new thermal paste. Had to leave the old thermal pads on the chips surrounding the GPU as I hadn't known about it being used when I ordered the paste.

    I removed the usb 3 board and machine booted up. Put board back in and it still booted so reassembled machine completely and it is booting each time but can't find the boot disk on first attempt (this is as before). Message is "BootDevice Not Found Hard disk - (3F0)" Pressing Esc finds the all the disks and machine boots & works fine.

    However I'm now seeing a blink code but Caps blinks once then immediately followed by 4 blinks so not sure if that is 4 or 5 blinks.

    What board should I replace try replacing first?
     
  50. mirage_bg

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    4 blinks is GPU, 5 - Motherboard
     
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