HP EliteBook Folio 1040 G1 Notebook PC

That's odd. Mine is an Intel SSD Pro 1500.

 

What do I know

Would you be so kind and post AS SSD benchmark results for this Intel drive? And are you using Bitlocker?

 

- double post -

 

I'm guessing you meant this?
Is... it fine?

Still, I don't know what Bitlocker is

 

Thanks for the screenshot! Bitlocker is Microsoft's encryption software built into Windows. You can use it to encrypt your system disk and any other internal or external storage device. When Bitlocker was still turned off on my Folio 1040 I got sequential values of 482 MB/s reads and 434 MB/s writes. When I turned Bitlocker on (a requirement by my employer) the sequential writes dropped to 176 MB/s, much like your benchmark shows. So you could have Bitlocker active on your system too without even knowing it, but that's just a wild assumption

Bitlocker off:



Bitlocker on:



(Bios 1.05 installed, OS is Win 8.0 Enterprise)

 

Thanks for the reply. I'm worried though that I loose the warranty if I open it and fiddle around with the fan. Also - at the price point of the Folio, HP should find a solution to the problem. It really is a great machine and this clicking noise is just a minor inconvenience but I'm expecting HP to fix it.

 

Interesting. I'll have a look at that. I did not know this. Thank you for teaching me something new today

I could have sent it back but once I checked it out it didn't seem worth going through the trouble. You should if you don't feel comfortable opening it, though. One thing I can say, this computer is really repair-friendly when it comes to opening the base and cleaning it out.

 

Interesting results. Turning off bitlocker gives faster sequential writes, but slower random reads:

With Bitlocker:


Without Bitlocker:


Edit: I should note that this is with software encryption - I have not worked out how to hardware encrypt it yet.

 

Thanks a lot for the screenshots! Odd results indeed, especially compared to my results. The M500 is compatible with Microsoft's eDrive, but it seems quite complex to make use of it. Anand has written an article about it though: AnandTech | Hardware Accelerated BitLocker Encryption: Microsoft Windows 8 eDrive Investigated with Crucial M500.

I'll probably buy a M550 once they become available and try my eDrive luck with it.

 

I might get this ultrabook but perhaps Guid can answer my important question. Is the battery CRU (customer replaceable unit) or is it only FRU like the X1 Carbon?

Basically if the battery breaks, can I keep using the system with the power cord, and then insert a new mail-ordered battery without voiding the warranty?

 

If the battery breaks under warranty, I guess I would have it replaced under warranty. Of course I can't speak to what might or might not void the warranty, but I believe the battery is "serviceable", in that you can pop off the back and get to it without using a heat gun or prying up any plastic tabs or anything - take out the screws and there it is. The battery pack is an orderable part from the HP parts store, so I expect it is not too hard to replace. Don't know about using it with AC power only in case of a battery failure - I expect that to work, as I haven't had a laptop that needed a battery to work since the old Mac Portable...

 

If you look at the manual, all you need to do is remove the bottom cover, unplug the battery (appears to use some sort of ZIF connector), and unscrew the battery from the underside of the computer. However, the battery is listed as non-user replaceable, which leads me to believe that replacing it would void your warranty.

 

Hi again, everyone

I was wondering, doesn't this computer support Connected Standby? I thought Haswell was mature enough (since the market is flooding with Haswell laptops) to have OEMs support this now, especially on high-end machines. I wrote "powercfg /a" in cmd and it said connected standby is not supported.

Granted I get the same thing with Intel Smart Connect, but I am wondering what the differences between these are? Windows + Haswell should support this natively, instead of having to install an extra program to this. Does anyone have info on this? Thanks.

 

A new smartbuy, G4U68UT#ABA, is available now that has the i7 4650U with the FHD IPS touchscreen. It can also be configured to order with an i5 4350U and FHD IPS touchscreen on HP's website.

 

Does anyone know when the touchscreen will be avaliable on the HP Topconfig in Scandinavia/Europe?

Many thanks,

SB

 

Hi.

Question: Can I use the SIM with the laptop to make calls or send text messages? I mean, what are the uses of having a WWAN card other than using Internet? We don't have 4G here in my country so I don't see how that would be too useful to me, but the call or SMS thing would be useful. Does the HP Connection Manager allow for this? Is it even available for W8/8.1? Thanks.

 

No, it's data only. You can text (at least in Win7 with the HP Connection Manager - not sure how to do it in Win8 yet), but there is no voice. This is a feature of the card, not the software - only a very few data cards come with voice circuits. Of course you can Skype, etc..

 

Ah, I see. I'll try the Connection Manager then, and look for alternatives too. If it doesn't work under 8.1 I'll report back. Thank you.

 

Yeah, it doesn't (have it from my 8560 which is still on Win7). AT&T has an app that lets me receive SMS, but I don't see an option to send any. There's an SMS API built in to Win8, so it *should* be there somewhere! But maybe it's like the Location API in Win7 - there, but no one uses it... Let me know if you find it somewhere - I'll do the same.

 

Has anyone installed linux on the 1040 G1? I'm thinking about buying this notebook; I would probably wipe the hard drive and install debian, or, if I can, order the notebook without an operating system.

 

I'm wondering if anyone can answer this question too. Has anyone tried the forcepad with linux? If the forcpad does work with linux I would buy this laptop.

 

While there have not been any specific commits to the xorg synaptics driver for it, the forcepad should work with typical left/right button taps and scrolling as well. What you probably won't get is the advanced stuff that makes the forcepad neat, i.e. using more force when two finger scrolling wont accelerate the scrolling. You might still want to keep a copy of Windows 7 around too, as it looks like firmware updates for the forcepad are only being released as windows executables (if you order it with SuSE and complain loudly enough, HP might send you a bootable ISO however)

If you still have doubts but otherwise want to give it a try, I think HP direct charges a $15 restocking fee + shipping if you don't like how well it is supported, or newegg with that Premier trial thing should be a free return. You may try asking a HP rep directly about how well the trackpad is supported under Linux, while they might not actually know the answer, if they say "yes" and later you find out that the answer is "no" then a log of such a promise might give you grounds for a free return.

If anyone out there who has one could try booting even a live linux usb image it would be helpful!

 

I came across a discussion on google + about the 1040 and linux, and exchanged a few messages with someone who has installed fedora on it. Aside from some minor docking problems, he said linux runs very well. The forcepad functions as a normal touchpad--quite a nice one apparently--but it doesn't have the unique pressure features that it does under windows. So I think I'll go ahead and get this one.

 

Hey folks. So my Folio 1040 g1 just arrived this morning. I have the i7-4650 model with hd5000 graphics, 8 gb ram, and 256 ssd. I took about 5 minutes to test out the forcepad on windows 7 and it is pretty cool. I then proceeded to replace windows with Xubuntu using a live usb. After a few hours of playing around with it, so far so good. The forcepad is definitely functioning as a normal touch pad. The pressure gestures don't work and I am having trouble getting two fingered scroll to work (the cursor highlights text instead of scrolling), but I am able to scroll on the right side of the touchpad. I installed steam and had an old school counter-strike session for an hour and I had no issues whatsoever. This thing is quick, quiet, and stays nice and cool. No wifi issues. Boots in mere seconds. The matte screen is beautiful after selling my glossy screened mac. I can already tell you that I love the keyboard. Whatever coating they put on the keys, it is very pleasant. Basically, I did my research and this thing is very much what I expected. If anyone else has had experience getting Linux/Ubuntu to run best on this thing, please share any tips you have. If you have any questions for me, let me know and I'll do my best to answer.

 

That sounds nearly perfect ... except the two-finger scrolling.

 

Thanks for the linux information. I do have one quick question: Did you have to deal with UEFI/secure boot during the installation, or is that not an issue with Windows 7 machines?

 

anyone succesfully tried 16 gb memory already?

 

Is that even possible? I thought HP only soldered 4GB memory on this and those expensive chips from HP Parts Store were upto 8GB max.

 

Yes you're right, 12 is probably max


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Unfortunately 8GB max. It isn't possible to fit a double-sided sodimm in the expansion slot due to clearance issues.

 

And heaven knows I tried... Hopefully an 8GB stick it likes will come out some time.

 

All of this inconvenience just so HP could brag about one of the thinnest 14 inchers on the market? Was it worth it?

Business grade machines aren't meant to be this limiting. Good luck getting a decent SSD upgrade in M.2 as well. Does this support M.2 with PCIe too?

I think if the VAIO Pro supported PCIe M.2 all those months ago, these new ones can/should too.

 

Is this laptop equipped with a SATA slot? What slots for storage, and how much thislaptop has (SATA, mSATA, M2)? Thanks.

 

Its a full length M.2 SSD, so this Crucial M500 should work.

 

Thus impossible to install HDD (I need HDD + SSD inner devices)?

 

No, there isn't any room for an HDD in there.

 

And so it does - that's what I am running in it right now. As for if it will boot off of a non-SATA device, my understanding is that a system is set to either boot from SATA or to boot from native PCIe, but they are not swappable. But I would still try it if one of the native drives were available.

 

Lenovo ThinkPad Extreme Spill Test - YouTube

Do you think the EliteBook 1040 can do better?

SB

 

I would be worried about the vents that are under the screen hinge. The keyboard and forcepad are pretty bulletproof, though.

 

Battery life has become around 1.5 hours less since the 8.1 Update 1 got installed. I can't figure out why since the energy report doesn't have any issues. Forcepad is also averaging at 3-4% CPU usage all the time which wasn't so high before, and that's very high for a touchpad. HP should update driver changes if any were made in this update...

 

Oh no.... I wanted a long battery life. Anyone else reporting of same problem? Also has anyone tried the touchscreen yet?

SB

 

The battery runtime is still decent, I usually just charge once a day (and it charges really quickly, which is nice) but I'm used to seeing more since I've tweaked settings to maximize it. You can keep 8.1 on it and disable the update if you want to keep it in check.

The speakers, because of the forcepad click noise take some juice, since a speaker can't be turned off instantaneously after it's been powered on. There is a certain hold time of the inductor in there. Do that a couple of hundred times a day and it takes a toll on the runtime. I just mute it unless I'm doing multimedia stuff, I found it improves battery life.

 

Can't you just disable the forcepad click noise?

SB

 

One more question, does anyone know if the New SanDisk 128GB micro-SD will work on this laptop? Finally, is the USB3.0 issue resolved? There were problems about it in the beginning of the release?

SB

 

After the 8.1 update, battery life is still very decent. I didn't notice any issues and think that battery life has improved over W7. And yes, the forcepad click noise can be disabled.

 

My ForcePad is 0% CPU unless I am using it.

 

Sometimes it's hard to tell if a link-click happened especially on slow internet when there's no feedback at all except for the click noise. First world problems, lol.

Over W7, W8.1 was much better for battery. But since the Update 1 got installed for me like two weeks back (I wanted to see how the universal taskbar thing worked), it's gotten a bit worse. Maybe it's some background service causing the issue. I'll have another look later...

 

Have any1 tried putting inside 8GB stick? Which brand works and which one does not?

I really do need one of these but with 12 GB

 

Nobody makes one (yet). It has to be one-sided so that it will be thin enough to fit flush in the space.

 

I'm curious about this standard though. I never heard any announcement of single-sided RAM tech update, I've only seen it used in this one ultrabook... Would they break compatibility with all existing modules just for the sake of shaving a millimetre? I doubt it... Besides, Samsung and ASUS make absurdly thin machines and they can fit the standard modules just fine.