*HP Elitebook 800 Series Owners Lounge*

What is the difference between UWA. UWVA and WVA? Which one is better?
eg. HP's Small & Medium Business Online Store

 

Just to confirm, Can the m.2 be used as a boot drive, or only flash cache?

 

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Any answer of my screen question above?

Thanks

 

None of the Elitebook 850's come with a UWVA (IPS/FFS/VA) panel as far as I know. This document explains the various display options available and their specifications starting on page 24.

It can be used as a boot drive, but be sure to be running a recent bios.

 

The document you shared only talks about SVA - Standard Viewing Angle and UWVA - 85/85/85/85 (Left/Right/Down/Up) . The link I provided says the screen is UWA and I got info on WVA from hp a retailer. Does WVA mean Wide Viewing Angle and what about UWA?

 

Sorry for all of the confusion. Here are the acronyms and their meanings:

SVA: Standard Viewing Angles. The actual viewing angle can vary depending on the model and resolution, but these are the lowest quality screens offered. Uses TN technology.
WVA: Wide Viewing Angles. Not offered on the Elitebook 8xx series, but will be better viewing angles than SVA. Still uses TN technology.
UWVA: Ultra Wide Viewing Angles. Best contrast and brightness, viewing angles are usually 85 degrees or greater in any direction. Will be IPS (LG, Panasonic), FFS (Samsung), IGZO (Sharp) or AHVA (AUO) if multiple vendors make the same size and resolution panel.
UWA: Typo that shouldn't exist on any machine specs. I think these were supposed to be SVA based on the certain models that they appeared on.

What this means is if you want a FHD IPS screen on an HP business notebook, you have to choose the Zbook 15. None of the other lines have it available as an option at the moment. If you can hold off until the Elitebooks are refreshed it may change.

 

I am even more confused after hp live chat. He said UWA is about 5 degrees below UWVA. And WVA are same as UWVA. Hp has confused everyone with their vague classification, I guess.

Have you see hp Elitebook 850 G1 with WVA? In the country I am currently in, Kenya, retailers are claiming they have WVA for most of the models.

 

Yeah. I do not know what to say. It might be worth a try if you can purchase it from a place that will let you get a refund if the screen does not have what is advertised.

 

Any update on solutions for the WiFi not working when waking from sleep?

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No update on the WiFi issue. I am so frustrated I asked them to take the laptop back and waiting to hear back. I've spent enough time trying to resolve it.

 

I just prevented the notebook from going to sleep on AC and that my workaround, for now. When I'm on battery, I'm sure I'll run into it again.

 

It's very annoying and most likely a driver issue though HP is considering changing out some hardware. Not convinced it would help.

 

With all the laptops out there, you'd think that this WiFi issue would be a serious problem for HP. This is not a cheap laptop. And it should work like millions of laptops out there work. How can HP not be urgently fixing this? #confused

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I wonder if it could be hardware and not a widespread issue?

 

Perhaps. In which we should hand our laptops over to hp for a week and have them replace the WiFi card? Do we have any evidence that they would even do that, and that it would work?

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I changed the WiFi card and it made no difference. Maybe the board itself.

 

My friend has the 840 and he has the exact same WiFi problem. I wonder if we know people here who do NOT have the WiFi problem?

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Replacing the mother board for the wifi problem? Seems like overkill doesn't it?

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Good question because if many do not then it's hardware and I can have it fixed or replaced. I do like the laptop otherwise.

 

Seeing as the WiFi card is connected to it and it's not the card itself, not really.

 

My 840 had major problems coming out of sleep and hibernation. Then I got a host of HP updates (not windows updates) and that seems to have fixed the sleep and hibernate crashes. I'd imagine an HP update would do the same with wifi. But it needs to be on HP's radar.

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I installed Intel drivers tonight. Running 8.1 now. Better then it was when I had Windows 7 but still an issue. Funny, my HP rep asked me a while ago why I was buying Lenovo T series and I told her it was due to HP and their poor driver support. So I decided to give HP another try and this is what I get. Sigh.

 

I wonder if we can install our own wifi card and replace the OEM Intel card and see what happens....

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Hmm, I didn't think of that.

 

I have a Lenovo T520 sitting here. I can try swapping the card and see...

 

Cool. Let us know what you find...

 

Up and running. Let's see what happens. This will eliminate both the OEM card and driver.

 

Been trying my hardest to duplicate the issue with the new WLAN card but so far it's been perfect. Will have to test for a few days to confirm.

 

So, basically, the Intel(R) Dual Band Wireless-N 7260 adapters have a host of issues regardless what computer they are installed in.

https://communities.intel.com/thread/49947?start=0&tstart=0

It looks like there's a newer driver that is linked at the end of that thread I linked but I haven't tried it.

BTW, currently using an Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205.

 

Is there any 840 G1 with 500GB HDD, core i7, FHD UWVA in America?

 

HP's Small & Medium Business Online Store

This is the only quickship model in the USA that carrys the i7 with the UWVA screen. Resellers carry it for about 5% less than direct from HP. There is also a quickship model available which pairs the i5 with the UWVA screen which MSRP for $1419.

If you can hold off it would probably be wise just to wait, as the 840 G2 should be released soon with options for a PCIe SSD and updated Broadwell processors.

 

Unfortunately, shipping is not an option for me. I have a family member who will travel to Washington DC. He will only have 3 days. I fear the price in offline store might be much higher. I am struggling to find the prices in Walmart and Bestbuy stores but I could only get online store prices.

I thought Elitebook 840 has PCIe slot from some of the pics I saw.

Waiting for the latest thing is good but for what kind of benefit? I feel, Intel can only make a slight improvement on new generation processors just for the sake of saving improvement for future releases; my guess. I was disappointed with Haswell improvement over Ivy Bridge.Does anyone remember how Haswell was advertised to improve battery life to upto 10 hrs for the then ultrabooks with 6 hrs battery life? Then when Haswell came, we only could count very few ulrtabooks with that kind of battery life and the improvement was negligible. I guess it will be the same for Broadwell.

Moreover, if Brodwell is released in Q1, 2015, then we might get 840 G2 by Q2 or Q3 and I might end up getting it by 2016, lol. I haven't done enough research on Brodwell but what actual improvement will it bring?

EDIT: I found Elitebook 840 G2 on a Malaysian Hp website.
The display is maximum of UWA.

 

Hi Tinshield - any update on using the new WLAN card in your 840 G1?

 

Been perfect. Don't think I have Bluetooth though but I don't use it.

 

I wonder if it is the Bluetooth radio combined with the Wifi radio that makes it so unreliable? I don't recall ever having so much trouble back when we had the Centrino 6300N and similar cards.

 

I did see that link a few days ago, i was going to wait for the 840 g2 but I cant see any real improvements. i know there wasn't going to be a massive difference but theres no change in anything really besides a 1080p version of touchscreen. even the r7 m260x is like a supped up 8750m and i doubt will even match a 8830m which was pretty decent. i even doubt it matches the 8790m. but i cant really say that's a worthy upgrade from my 8750m considering the chassis is exactly the same. im not getting any thing really worth it for the same machine. i know theyse aren't gaming machines but i did want to game on it. i was hoping it would have an r9 m270/m275

im guessing that the new thinkpads like the e450/e550 are still using the NVidia 740m as the current models in e440/e540 im assuming they will have a refresh card in late spring with the mobile 900m cards otherwise they would of put the 800m inside. but ill see what the T models have.

overall i do like my 840 g1 although i did want the 640 g1 version because on the full core cpu but they only released what i wanted in the Asian market and couldn't find any sellers. i hope the G3 models if using amd are the HMB graphics and that they live up to what they sound like.

 

Anyone know what IPS screen I can look for to upgrade a HP EliteBook 820 G1?

 

You would want to verify what model of LCD you have first. This will be something like B125XTN02.0 (if you have an AUO panel) but not just the monitor ID that Windows provides. HWInfo64 would probably be your best bet to find it in software, or you can disassemble the notebook to find the model number printed on the back of the raw panel itself. Once you know what model of screen you have, then you can look on panelook for something that matches it as close as possible for size, thickness, wattage, backlight inverter dimensions, mounting locations, eDP/LDVS connector location.

In theory, if you have the eDP TN panel that I listed above, something like the LG LP125WH2-SPT1 would be a good place to start. It can be had for about $80 as A+ grade here in the US.

 

The model that I have is a LGD03EE and I can not find anything online about it. Do you think that the panel proposed by you would work?

 

Still not one issue since changing out the WLAN module.

 

May I know which SSD brand and model 840 G1 has?
Does the AMD graphics perform with no throttling?
Is there a freeze when the graphics switches from AMD to Intel and the reverse?
This and this just have minor differences but there is 500 US$ difference! Would you check and tell me the difference other than processor, RAM and SSD size?
If you have time check this out.
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/CompareBasePs.asp?oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=
There are confusing prices. Those models with SVA and even 1366x768 resolution costs over 2000 US$! What am I missing or is it a typo?

 

Does anyone have problems with the laptop crashing and shutting off without proper shutdown when in sleep mode for an extended time? It happens to me about 50% of the time and it's quite troubling.

 

ok guys. got a weird one. everytime my laptops comes out of hibernate. it loads up as if the hard drive is blank. and I have to power it off and then restart and then it resumes from hibernation. why does it do this. my laptop bios is on this default.
I must add my current hard drive is a Seagate 1TB sshd. I was using a 256gb ssd and never had resume problems. is it because the 1tb has 8gb ssd cache messing up the boot? if that was the case how could I fix without disabling hibernate as it deletes system restore.

 

According to this review, the touchpad buttons are "slight[ly] clattering". In relation to this, I have a few questions:

1. Is this observation in accordance with that of others who have used the 850 G1?
2. I cannot really tell from Notebookcheck's review of the 840 G1 if the issue is the same with that laptop. Since the users of the 840 seem to be in majority in this thread, maybe you can tell if you have experienced this at all? If the answer is yes, I might at least know in advance that it will probably be a problem for me with the 850.
3. I wonder if it is likely that the new 850 G2, which according to this article will come for sale this month, will have improved touchpad buttons in this respect.
4. (Perhaps beyond the scope of this thread, but relevant to the topic.) I have slightly considered the Probook 470 and Zbook 17 (the latter's touchpad surface looks somewhat different though). Can anyone tell if either of these touchpads have been noisy?

I can add that it seems a bit arbitrary if Notebookcheck makes a note on an issue like this. For instance, it was not mentioned in the article on the Fujitsu Celsius H920, where the issue was one of the main reasons I returned the computer (the trackpoint buttons were also unsatisfactory in this regard).

Still partly on the touchpad topic, I will use the opportunity to bump my month-old post:

Anyone with an insight on this, not just B'midbar, is of course welcome to answer. And I am sorry that I cannot really find an adjective which fits the feel of the D820 touchpad. My hypothesis was that the visual similarity was a good indication of a similarity in feel; perhaps anyone here knows about just how good indication it is.

By the way, has anyone with the 850 G1 as well experienced issues with disconnection?

 

I have both the Zbook 17 and Elitebook 850 G1, and I would say that the Elitebook's trackpad buttons are louder than the Zbook's. The buttons themselves feel looser on the switch so they can shift a little to the side which is probably making the noise. It may just be me, but I think the Zbook trackpad doesn't discolor as bad as the Elitebook does.

Not sure what you are talking about with disconnection, unless you mean wireless. The 7260N chip seems to work ok for me under Windows and Linux as long as I use the latest drivers, but it really is nowhere near the quality of the older Centrino 6300N, or even the 6235N chip that the Zbook uses.

BTW, HP has put up a few Elitebook 8xx G2 models. Here is the cheapest 850 G2 with a FHD screen:

HP's Small & Medium Business Online Store

And a nice spec 840 G2:

HP's Small & Medium Business Online Store

And a nice 820 G2:

http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/MiddleFrame.asp?page=config&ProductLineId=539&FamilyId=3882&BaseId=46087&oi=E9CED&BEID=19701&SBLID=

 

@win32asmguy,Does it mean zbook has higher product quality? I saw that elitebook also have MIL-STD 810G standards. But if if the touch pad decolor in a year, it is worse than my 6 years old hp Pavilion DV4.

 

Thank you for that reply. I guess it could make sense to wait for the Zbook 15u, which has the non-numerical keyboard I want while still being 15.6 inches, which for me is minimum for 16:9.

Yes, it seems I meant wireless. I just remembered that Internet disconnection had been mentioned in this thread, and also here. Since this is not a problem for you, I guess that you with "quality" mean range and possibly speed? Anyway, I guess that these latter properties will be satisfactory for me unless they are really bad. I am much more concerned about the touchpad buttons ...

 

It seems this thread is less active...

 

Yes, the Zbook is definitely better built than the Elitebook. The touchpad on the Elitebook is a sort of translucent glass, so it can get discolored very easily if you do not regularly clean it.

 

I see. I though it is fading. So do you mean it catches dirt easily and even stays after being cleaned after a long time?