A Guide to BIOS OC HP 8600gs with drivers ABOVE 169.04

looking real nice for a class 2 video card!

 

Thanks, I feel a bit better.

The game itself is pretty cool.

 

yeah. gets to be a bit addicting....lol

 

Update for HP DV9790 (probably other models check HP website support)

There is a new BIOS from HP ver F.51, they have updated some FAN Timings (Seems to be CPU FAN timings). Re did the Video BIOS settings to 600\1200\450, updated the BIOS no problems.

Also there is a new version of NiBiTor.v4.0 from Guru3D. This has been updated for newer Graphics cards including Nvidia 8600M

 

well.... i done went and done it....the hp is up for sale. just bought a gateway with with the 8800m gts card in it and it just blows away any chance the 8600 gs ever had...... a very said day for my hp..... stock 3dmark score without doing anything....7105.

all for the low low price of 1300 out the door.

so now i will be moving my upgrades to this lappy and really put crysis to the test....

 

For me doesn't works....

I have Hp pavilion dv6560el

video 8400m GS

bios f.51

video driver 174.83

i mod oprom2 but nothing change...i did the procedure 5 times......but nothing seems to change....help me......

 

Nothing changed for me either, I think we are missing something, perhaps we are suppose to use this modded flash with an overclocking utility? or a non hp driver?

 

what is it your doing exactly?

did you use rivatuner to get your max clocks yet?

 

aand for the record...all the 174. whatever drivers pretty much suck for over clocking...and i have tried them all.

 

before, i had 169.04 and OC with rivatuner, then i install 174.93 and unistall rivatuner. then i mod my bios following your procedure....then i installed the new firmware and installed again rivatuner but my clock is always the same...

what driver you raccomend me???

sorry my english...i'm italian ihhihihi

 

Just in case you have not modded BIOS properly, here is the files you need to update your BIOS from within Windows (32bit or 64bit) to HP F.51 BIOS. I have set the clock settings to 600/1200/450 as these seem to be the most stable with no extra heat problems (same as on mine). Hope this helps.

http://www.mediafire.com/?yy6b3imglts

PS you do not need to use overclocking tool, only to check that your 3D Value clock has been changed by BIOS update. You can then use the latest drivers.

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS FOR THE NVIDIA 8600GS ONLY

 

thanks for the bios,
I tried it, then ran techpowerup gpu-z and I get gpu clock 400, memory 400, shader 800, these are also my defaults.

I also tried ntune, but that gave bsod when running it...
Any other ways of checking to see if the over clock worked???

 

to me too doesn't work; gpu clock in cpu-z is 400, 400, 800....... in atitool is 400,400 in rivatuner is 400,400,800.....these are also my defaults.


why doesn't work???

 

lets start at the beginning.....what driver are we all using to try to over clock with?

1: you really need to start with 169.04 drivers.
2: you need to uninstall old drivers.
3: you will need the modded inf file for your 8600/8400m gs cards
4: you will need rivatuner 206 or really 208 software or ntune.
5: you will need to click yes to everything when installing rivatuner. including updates else it wont work right.
6: modded inf file needs to go inside your 169.04 folder before you start your install. it replaces the original inf file (nv_disp.inf)
7: once all is installed you will need to reboot your computer.
8: open rivatuner and verify that you now have 169.04 drivers installed.
9: you dont need to do the bios hack until you learn to over clock your card first. mess around and over clock it wrong or the wrong file and your going to be in a bit of trouble. bios hacking is really for when you have the right clocks that are stable for your system. rivatuner can be made to install your over clock after each reboot. and to see your tru gpu clock speeds, click on sensors of gpu-z and then open a game or 3d application. then click back to gpu-z and it will show the max speed your using. or use rivatuner/ click on customize/ hardware monitoring.

 

Ok done some investigation of BIOS file and OPROM2.ROM file in BIOS is for the 8600gs ONLY and not the 8400gs.

The OPROM1.ROM is for the 8400GS, as it matches your default clock speeds. Please ignore my previous post with F.51 modded file as it is only for 8600GS.

Use the 169.04 drivers to test what are the best clock speeds for your card (search web to see what others have upped the clocks to on your card). then once you have established the correct clock speeds which do not cause overheating or Artifacts, then mod OPROM1.ROM with your new clock speeds and update your BIOS. Job done

I would try core 500 , Shader 1000, Memory 450

 

I know how OC....

i have 169.04 driver downloaded form laptopvideo2go..... the oc with rivatuner to 600/1200/515 and its all ok....

....then i mod bios f.51 and before flash it, with rivatuner i set clock to default 400/800/400....then i flash mid bios(OPROM2) but the clock is always 400/800/400.........

 

are you sure???
i have mod OPROM1 already, but i didn't flash bios, becouse i read that someone did that and had a black screen forever hihihihiih

 

really?
and u replace your old oprom2 file with the one you just changed using the nibitor 3.9 or higher.

 

and i think oprom1 is more of the standard vga and not anything to do with the gs cards

 

no oprom1 is not the SVGA, thats one of the others I checked

 

...........

 

yes and nothing changed....clock always the same...

 

i have a laptop....no floppy

 

just trying to get an understanding. i mean mine worked the first time out

 

try using bios f45 instead of f51. and let us know what happens with that one

 

did you have 8400gs or 8600gs? as the OPROM2.ROM has the clock settings for 8600gs not 8400gs, thats my understanding looking at the default clock settings

 

1: dv9740us
2: oprom1.rom is not for use as a gs card rom
3: oprom2.rom is the correct one to use. the only one to use. a few other people tried oprom1.rom with a dv9700 modle laptop and pretty much locked it up.
4: i have a 8600m gs 512 meg with 16 shaders no shared memory
5: this pertains to 8600m gs 256/512 cards. confirmed working.


and the funny thing is...it says 8400m gs in the rom file.

there are 5 to 6 oprom files. each for different things on the dv9700 series..it's oprom2.rom and not one. and all three clocks are in the same oprom.rom file (2d/3d/powersave)

 

If you use NiBiTor.v4.0 it reports as 8600gs

Also oprom1.rom has clock settings for the 8400gs model they are talking about, whereas the oprom2.rom has the clock settings for 86000gs not 8400gs. Since they have done the modded update and it has not changed their clock settings then logically this shows that the oprom2.rom is not the one for their 8400gs

 

i have
hp pavilion dv6560el
8400m gs 128mb ddr2
with f.51 i modded oprom2 nothig happends....
oprom2 with nibitor 4 report as 8600m gs....but the clock are my default....400/800/400.....i'm not sure to mod oprom1 i'm afraid to get a black boot......

today i try with f45.....

 

hummm, interesting....

but yours worked right daz? i had to re-read this forum to see what was going on..

 

yep mine worked, but I have 8600gs. another thing to note is NiBiTor.v4.0 doesn t have 8400gs in its settings. but does identify the OPROM1.ROM as a series 8 nvidia

I looked at the hardware identifier in OPROM1.ROM and it shows device id 0427, which after a quick search on the web shows it as

"Video Device ID (Mobile): (0427) GeForce 8400M GS. Video. Video RAM: 256MB"

Also looked at OPROM0.ROM and this one is for SVGA not OPROM1.ROM, which further indicates to me that I am looking at the right file.

So I think there has been some miss reporting on problems with OPROM1.ROM, I think someone tried to change OPROM0.ROM, which would brick your laptop.

So guys I think you should have a go, obviously test with not too high clock settings. 500/1000/450. I would test these clock speeds first in the driver tweaks then if ok up date BIOS.

 

yes, i had to break out the dv9700 and start looking around once again.

 

yep. looks to be for the 8400m gs. just went through it.

and daz...what are your 3dmar scores with your gs card?

 

Johnksss,

Here are my results on 3dmark06 with Hotfix feb 08

3DMark Score 2538
SM 2.0 Score 1019
SM 3.0 Score 843
CPU Score 2082
1280X1024


Date Apr 26, 2008

OS Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 32bit
CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T7700
3Gb RAM (4Gb installed Vista 32bit can t see 1Gb)
Nvidia 8600M GS 512Mb (600/1200/450)

HP Pavilion DV9790 Laptop.

 

my hp scores

default settings 1280x1024
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5962116

deafult settings 1280x800
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5894066

 

what did you overclock your card to? for those results

 

i think 675/1350/450 but it is posted in the thread some where.

 

but that aint nothing compaired to my gateway! i would trade a bluray drive for a 8800m gts card any day of the week!!

 

I agree, your Gateway is pretty hot. I live in Norway so I got HP cause of the Warrenty cover which you don t get with the rest including Gateway in Norway.

I am going to stick with my HP. As I am waiting a year or so for the price to drop on the Twin SLI Cards on laptops. Its taken a long time for laptops to get to were they are now, finally manufatureres are realising that we want POWER.

 

very true! i was going for a toshiba with 2 8600m gt cards, but the gateway smoked both of them with one. and they wanted 1800 for it. i was like....im cool. but you can up grade them cards in that lappy though. so you could run two 8800m gtx cards for about another 1200 bucks!! woohooo...i dont think so.

 

First time posting to the forum, and thread.. I've been watching it for a while debating on whether or not I'd OC my 8600m GS 512MB. I've got a dv9700t CTO, it's a T7500 2.2Ghz, 4 GB DDR2 RAM, and Vista Home Premium 32Bit. Well, tonight I took the leap and flashed my bios using the 600/1200/450 setup.. Oh my god! I wasn't expecting this, but my previous PCMark05 was 2958, and well..my most recent after the flash is, well..almost double; 5444 marks! I'm using driver 174.60, and did the test @ 1280x1024. However, my previous test at native resolution of 1680x1050 yielded an impressive 5139. I can't complain about either, and I thank you all for your efforts. By the way, its the F.51 Bios from HP.. and no other upgrades on the lappy. Well, keep up the OC'ing, y'all rock

 

Hi thx for this article it’s been very informative, I’m one of I guess many you told to go away and learn something about O/C’ing before trying to take a task like this on.
Without a doubt you’d be right for saying that, I do understand what you’re doing, but being in the position of not knowing anyone who has O/C’ed I’ll probably never be able to do so from just reading something like your article.
Saying that I know I’d be much more inclined giving it a try if it was in a “how to” form as some of the clips on UTube. Does anyone know of such a video/clip showing how to O/C the Nvida 8600MS using this method?

 

Same for me. I have a dv9700t CTO T9300 @2.5Ghz 3GB DDR2 and flashed with the 600/1200/450 bios that DAZ999 was gracious enough to provide (I also installed the 174.60 driver based on E-wrecked's experience) and I gained 1000 marks on 03 with no apparent temperature increases!

Now to be greedy...HP has a new bios out F.53 and before attempting to o/c I tried it out. My 3dmarks increased 200 just from this bios (I think it changed how low load cpu core speed is handled or something). Anyway...any chance of getting the F.53 prepared with the 600/1200/450 speeds for those of us too chicken to try ourselves?

Many thanks for the OC!

 

Hi Guys

Here is the link to the modded F.53 HP BIOS For NVIDIA 8600M GS 512Mb ONLY

http://www.mediafire.com/?jmnm0yyyjxj

I have set the clock speeds for Nvida 8600M GS to 675/1350/450

The BIOS mod I have uploaded is used on my own Laptop, so I have tested it. And the settings I have set have been tested on my laptop for a long time now 675/1350/450.

the HP F.53 BIOS is for HP DV9800 and DV9700 series on NVIDIA 8600M GS 512Mb.
If you have a different model or Video card then check with HP update site to see if F.53 is listed and that you have NVIDIA 8600M GS card 512Mb.

The NVIDIA 8600M GS 256MB I have not tested with these settings so I advised you use overclocking software first to see what is the right level and then mod the BIOS file yourself.

I have included no mod for 8400M GS, you will have to do that one yourself.

 

daz! you are the best! many thanks for this.


Edit: Update-

With the new F.53 modded Bios, I gained another 300 marks with 3d03

For an additional compare- F.53 Bios no OC vs F.53 OC was a 2000 mark difference!

 

Just a warning to all,

The bioses that people upload will, for the most part, work with most machines( as long as the OC settings aren't too high). However, it is done at your own risk, because anyone mean enough can upload a bios file and purposively edit it wrongly, resulting in you having a semi-bricked laptop.

This is why i encourage everyone to do the process themselves, so they can find their optimal OC values, instead of relying on another set of "OC-stocked" values.

Good luck to all, and its good to hear the f.53 bios does something.

 

knievez

Words of Wisdom of course

The BIOS mod I have uploaded is used on my own Laptop, so I have tested it. And the settings I have set have been tested on my laptop for a long time now 675/1350/450.

the HP F.53 BIOS is for HP DV9800 and DV9700 series on NVIDIA 8600M GS 512Mb.
If you have a different model or Video card then check with HP update site to see if F.53 is listed and that you have NVIDIA 8600M GS card 512Mb.

The NVIDIA 8600M GS 256MB I have not tested with these settings so I advised you use overclocking software first to see what is the right level and then mod the BIOS file yourself.

I have included no mod for 8400M GS, you will have to do that one yourself.

 

hey knivez and daz999. i see your still over here holding things down right and keeping it all in order. nice!

 

haha hey johnksss, well i just post every now and then when i read new developments or w/e.

I think i've seen a quite a few posts still regarding the problem with OCing after 169.04 drivers. Either people don't know about this thread or they're scared to try it. Daz's bios has been confirmed to work by another member of the forum and himself.

It's fairly safe to say that you can update with his bios and have no issues, but everyone should just make sure to confirm that the values he has set won't cause problems with your particular card. *remember: OC values differ per card.

software OC first with 169.04 drivers+ rivatuner to check the values.

 

yes this is true. because i was thinking them clocks daz has we're mine...lol, but i could be wrong