A Guide to BIOS OC HP 8600gs with drivers ABOVE 169.04

ok.

in the website there are following bioses.

f.33a; f.45; f.51; f.53 current.

which this I should use??? or do you have one for me?

 

you already have f53.
just extract it again. you need to cover your messed up bios that wont flash.
then jsut go through the steps again. and it should work this time.

 

ok, sorry but i understand that not.

please can you wright slowly

 

ok i make this.

when i became an errormessage i will post it to you

 

ok...........

 

you see my message what i became. and what values must i write on nibitor that the system is stable?

i hope i make it all right

 

you already have f53.
just extract it again. you need to cover your messed up bios that wont flash.
then jsut go through the steps again. and it should work this time.

i dont understand what you meen with that

 

say...you need to run ntune to over clock your gpu and find your own stable clocks to work with first. not just jump into bios over clocking....i would ahte to see you mess up that nice shinny new laptop.....

 

ok, also i just run ntune. and not other.

also i can forget that with the bios

and what driver i should use?

 

yes. do a few days with getting to know ntune...it overclocks and if you make a mistake, it will reset itself...but bios over clocking is more of a permanet solution.

 

i have now downloaded the ntune. now i make changes there.

and what should i make with bios

 

i have startet ntune but i can make nothing there. the software will not make changes there.
it will always the standard configures.

i don´t no what i make false with the software.

 

say, leave that bios stuff alone for a bit..till we get someone that can explain in your native language...i dont want you making any mistakes on my account... just use ntune for now. and when someone comes online and can better explain it to you, then you make the bios move.

 

you need 169.04 or 169.09 drivers to use ntune to over clock.

 

ok thanks.

i hope it come on, who can help me with that.

i still download now 169.09 with the .inf

thanks

 

ok, cool.. start there to get your gpu clocks in order and to fully understand over clocking...because here you can make mistakes, but you can just reboot your computer, but bios over clocking...make a mistake and your computer will not come back on.

 

i have the 169.09 driver and ntune now. but when i will overclock it will be jump always back to the standard configuration

 

Try to download the 169.04 driver and check it again

 

I still dont get why its not possible to tweak things so the reason why 169.04 works can be applied to the newer drivers.. Im suffering from this too, stuck at 169.04 because I cant get hold of my bios from, since LG only provides some stupid auto update .exe file and not a .rom file.

 

well....these drivers are pretty much the same...it has more to do with what is loaded and not loaded in the inf files (about 85 percent anyways). all these files are modded and you would have to download from the manufacturer to find out what the original file looked like.

 

Johnksss i have the hp 9750ev notebook with 8600M GS 512 video card and i flashed my bios with the modded F.53 and now i have 675/450/1350 clocks and they are very stable.My graphics(aero) is rated 5.4 from 4.7 and i am very happy but i was wondering if the memory clock could rize to 600.I say that because i saw at nvidia site that the default clocks for a 8600M GS are 600/700/1200(shader).What do you think?I would also like to know if that card supports ageia PhysX acceleration.Thank you in advance

 

if your card has ddr3 then yes you can up to 700, but if your card has ddr2 then no.

and as for the physx..... it will run the demo stuff but it will not install the driver.

 

I have the ddr2 version.What is the best memory clock for this card?As for the PhysX support Nvidia will support all the 8 and 9 series(because they support CUDA).For now nvidia supports officially(For PhysX) the GT200 Series and the 9800GTX cards.

 

hopefully that will change by next month...but i hope they give it a on/off switch. because in some games it will make the fps drop. you'll have to read up on exactly why....

 

Do you know the best stable memory clock for my card?(ddr2)?

 

the clocks your using now are my clocks...lol

have no clue at the moment..been testing my gateway, but with the new drivers...they be able to go higher or lower but with better performance.

 

Yes i know that i use your clocks but i was wondering if the memory clock would go further.I suppose that with the upcoming drivers(supporting PhysX) the performance would increase but the clocks should go lower or higher?I don't know.But please when the upcoming drivers are ready for public and you test them and decide the best clocks please tell me and if you can upload the new modified bios.Thanks in advance

P.S. : i see that when my computer is idle the temperature is 63-65 Celsius(no high performance though).Is it normal?

 

well, you can start testing now...but you would have to revert the clocks back to stock. i did have the memory as high as 485 but it wasn't stable back then and i haven't since tried again in a while.

the temps for this gs are averaging pretty high because it does not have a serperate fan or a better heat sink.

and we shall see...i may start retesting in a a few days.

 

Can i use an extra fan for my gpu(or a better heatsink?Is there room for a better heatsink or to put a powerfull fan?)I lowered the clocks to default ones and temperature is now 58 Celsius in in idle.

 

ATTENTION: USEFUL LINK BELOW

Hi all. I posted results a while back for my dv9700, and have since done a good bit of research on OC'ing the 512MB 8600M GS. As a matter of fact, you could say I'm a bit nuerotic about it. I've been trying a combination of drivers, BIOS swaps, and clock settings. To date, the highest I've pushed the 3D Mark 06 Score was 2966; 1156 SM2.0/ 1065 sm3.0/ 1933 CPU. The link is below. Now, I'm about to slipstream the F.23 Video Bios and try to break the 3000 mark. One thing I was just thinking about, am I bottle necking because of my memory clock vs. core clock? The posted score is using the new F.57 BIOS, with 675/1350/470 clocks. I'm wondering if I slipstream, then juice up the memory clock, lower the core clock, I may get better results. I notice everyone here is Core Focused, is that 'cause you've tried this way already? Anyhow, let me know if anyone has had luck..and I'll let you know if I do. Thanks to knivez and johnkiss for getting me addicted to OC'ing, it's time consuming and my girlfriend thinks I spend too much time on my comp now. If only HP would use a decent vid card then I could save a LOT of time

My 3dMark06:
http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=CC088E407886AD91632140F694053987
link broken..thanks johnksss for pointing out.
I will post new link with new scores.


VERY USEFUL LINK TO DOWNLOAD/REVIEW ALL PREVIOUS HP BIOS:
http://aldeby.org/blog/index.php/hp-pavilion-bios-changelogs-and-download-links.html

Thanks again for everyone's testing and helpful insight. Hopefully I don't brick with the next flash.. *knocks on wood*

 

well keep nuerotic-ing it up...lol

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=6870261

edit: we tried doing it all. and them clocks you see are my clocks. the core memory is no where near stable as you try to make it go higher. and your link is not working for futuremark.

 

you can use an external cooling solution only or take it completely apart and reapply thermal paste. also clean out heatpipe and fan of lint and dust.

 

John, I ran my mark06 @ 1280x1024, not 1280x800 Let me go ahead and OC this new BIOS real quick and I'll smoke ya BTW, slipped f.23a into f.57 bios with normal clocks, scored 2225 3dmark06 before and OC'ing. I'll post all results in next posting.

 

then here ya go know it all...lol

ill post my lowest 1280x1024 score. let me know when you pass it. then i'll post one of the others above it.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5962116

edit: dont e-wreck your self trying to hard....lol

 

just curious..which bios u using for the higher scores? i havent tried to beat it yet.. but i am curious

 

probably f45. it's not the bios that allows you to over clock high, it's something else...

 

Well, I know I need a new driver! I'm bout to give one a shot.. seems stable so far. 680/1496/495, gonna stress it and see what smokes! Im gonna go smoke in the meantime. If ya wanna offer any advice, please feel free I think I may just jack my shader up enough and lower memory. Then it will smoke, one way or another.

 

you can jack it up all you want. the record is 705/1515/510 so get to jacking. and the 3dmark scores we're pretty pathetic at best. but have fun with that.
you can only push a 16 shader chip so far. then the performance just degrades.

 

Im not gonna get crazy or nothing..no need to burn out my GPU. Is there a driver you'd suggest? Keeping in mind, Ive got 64bit Premium, and a 512MB Card

 

your chip has ddr2 memory and not ddr3 memory like it states on the website.
8600m gs card will never over clock to what the website states because they are talking about the 256 meg shared version of the card and that has ddr3 memory. (so they say) you over clocking for pure speed and not stability. the gpu and cpu share the same fan. and the gpu already runs in the 100's when pushed to long or to high on over clocking. you can try the higher drivers, but you can not software over clock them. you would have to keep flashing the bios. the trick to all this is to get the same high marks without over clocking as high. when you can do that, then you can start to go higher. the dv9700 does not have a real gaming chip in it, there for your limited to what you can do. kind of why i let that go and bought a gateway with an 8800m gts card. which i have the record for over clocking on. i may pull back out the dv9700 and see what it can do now...but really no point in doing so technically. the over clock for this machine was to make it bare able to play crysis and call of duty 4.....but as i said before...you can only go so far with 16 shaders.

best drivers to use is 175.63/177.39

 

I understand exactly what you're saying. I realized that it wasn't a gaming rig right about the time I pressed the power button for the first time. It's all good though, I'm not trying to smoke anyone's records, and like you.. I will buy a new system soon. But, for the time being it's probably better I attempt to OC with this one, before moving onto a more expensive mistake. I'm trying to understand what you mean by not pushing the clocks, but still getting the highest score. I'm tryin to figure out how u marked in the lower 3000's if ya weren't pushing. Anyhow, I've got one last test to run..and I'll post final results. Enjoy the GTS!

 

actually it's not. because you have to bios hack that. in the gateway you don't. so your already 100 percent better.

as for scores...you need to check your settings for your card... these settings control how fast your card will render content. and since your over clocking, then you want to go for performance settings. but to much performance will also kill you off in the long run. check your nvidia control panel. live/learn/love what those 3d settings do. because without knowing them...you wont break 3k.

 

Well, I haven't altered the settings of the control panel yet..but I did finally break the 3000 mark, and the card is stable with no artifacting or loss of driver functionality. So, once I do tweak a bit more I'm sure I'll see even better results. But, for the time being my results links are lsited below.


Base Score:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7398184


OC'd 680/1498/485 - Stable
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7402287

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7402066

I considered pushing the clocks more, but no reason to really. I've had a 145-150% increase in 3dmark, I'm fine with that. However, I will tweak the Nvidia Panel to see if there are any results.

 

well i ran these. so go try to run them, if you already haven't tried yet.
705/1515/510

and your over clock is not stable running crysis
edit: and your new inf file edited the nvidia control settings for more performance than you had them set at. that's why your score is higher.

 

Anyhow.. I've installed the new driver, and the link below includes adjustments in Control Panel.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=7414441

Don't be skeered John, I'm only creeping up on ya. Ill run tests before trying your clock settings. Then Ill OC and post.

 

Johnksss can you modify F.57 bios and set the higher stable clocks please?I saw the higher clocks you mentioned above and i suppose that this bios could be edited somehow.I have HP 9750ev with Nvidia 8600 GS DDR2.Thanks in advance

 

your funny! and you already tried to run them and found you couldn't. and your default score is higher because of what i already pointed out. and now your over there trying out what i told you to try. you aint hardly slick. lmao! but im not the one to beat. some dude has a 4077 over there.

 

nah, no can do. the temps are crazy high and there is not enough cooling built in to the system for that. bottom line is.... we are pretty much maxing out the system as it stands. and your almost 200 mhz above stock core. not allot of chips can claim that title....but it's not a gaming gpu it's an entertainment gpu..... and that 512 ram your not ever gonna be able to really use efficiently because it needs a 256 bit bus and gddr3 memory.

 

Hey John, I just tried running at those clocks..but no go. I need a chill mat or something to keep temps down. Or, I could try to undervolt to spare my comp the extra heat. Lemme give that a try. I'll let ya know.

 

nah, undervolting wont help and the 8600 gs is a naturally hot chip to start with. have you taken yours completely apart yet?