ENVY 17-32XX Intel Ivy Bridge (AMD 7850M)

I ran 3dmark Vantage last night and the best score I could get was P12288. This was with 825/1250
AMD Radeon HD 7850M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 1853 score: P12288 3DMarks

 

Are you using Afterburner? Stock drivers or 12.6 beta?

I tried unlocking Afterburner, but for some reason it's not letting me make any adjustments. A few screenshots of your OC settings would help.

Thanks!

 

Afterburner with 12.6 beta drivers.




Edit the cfg file in program files.



UnofficialOverclockingEULA = I confirm that I am aware of unofficial overclocking limitations and fully understand that MSI will not provide me any support on it
UnofficialOverclockingMode = 1

 

Ordered, feel like a new man

 

could u try 3dmark11 please spartanjet broke 3k with a 2679 gpu subscore I believe... c if u can get it to 2.7k gpu then u would be at 670m range. (the avg vantage gpu score for 670m is 11151 ur almost there also

 

AMD Radeon HD 7850M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 1853 score: P2896 3DMarks



My 7850m refuses to go above 825/1250. Spartan is really lucky lol.

 

u mean stability wise or utility ise

 

I can't run any 3d program longer than 4 seconds above 825/1250. So I mean stability. Afterburner will let me go up to 880/1300.
The cooling is so good that if I could increase the voltage I could probably hit 900/1300. Afterburner showed my temps never hit above 68 C while playing BF3 for 2 hours while at 825/1250.

 

oh. ah well atleast we know the 7850m is better than 660m all good

 

Nice work. Smashes the high score for an OC'd 650m. Let the battle begin!

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,Alienware M14xR2 score: P2719 3DMarks

 

Edit:
Oops, wrong thread

 

Bah, now I feel silly for having just called Fedex about my shipment since you already did.

I ordered mine on the 7th, and it was dropped off at the Shanghai Fedex on the 18th. It's missed flights both days so far because of a backup of packages at the Shanghai facility, though the Customer service rep said it would be on a flight tonight. My expected ship date still says it's expected by 6/22/12 @ 4:30pm, but the rep said it'll likely have to wait til Monday or Tuesday. With the time difference, it's been sitting there for well over 50 hours without a nudge out the door.

My projected ship date was initially the 26th, so it'll be earlier than that anyways, but it hasn't stopped me from feeling so impatient.

 

naa I need the 17" desktop...
how much battery would i gain by going down to i5 and how much speed would I lose?

maybe I should just get the dv7t with the bigger battery

 

You gain a ton just by going from 3D to 2D model with graphics switching. The Envy 17 is also the better laptop versus the DV7T. You can watch my videos for a decent comparison.

The 9 cell battery on the DV7T can be make or break depending on how you plan on using your laptop though. The difference in cooling may also be a make a break for you too.

 

I thought I would give an update for those still waiting for shipment. I ordered on the 3rd with a build date by the 12th. I got a delay email saying it would ship on the 20th. I was a bit surprised but it has shipped. I made several calls to hp during this time and just like most got the run around from hp. I called on the 18th to cancel because I had no confidence it would ship on the 20th. The person I talked to said they would try to get me a quick ship model and even showed me the model that matched my specs. She said she would call me back in about an hour because she had to get the ok to give me the price. I never got called back from the that person and then two days later, the 20th, it shipped. The experience from hp was terrible and the next time I need a computer hp will not be on the list. I assume they will offer up some sort of satisfaction survey after I get the laptop and if they dont I will search one out that is for sure. Shame on you hp for how you have handled this situation.

 

been viewing this page for a few months now, finally just posted.

Yes, my HP Envy 17 is still sitting in Shanghai as well. My HP Envy 15 must of made the plane because that's expected to arrive tomorrow. I'll let you guys know if it does or not as that should give us a better sense of whether my other package will arrive on Friday.

 

As well, I find this so interesting and still can't fathom it. I ordered the HP 17t-3000 model which had 3D nearly all the same specs as the 3200 and that had switchable graphics.

Now not much as changed other than the processor (which will have no effect) and the video card that was upgraded.

Now I can understand that MAYBEEE this doesn't have switchable graphics, but to me it doesn't make sense how the non-3D version does have switchable graphics. I laugh at this situation because that is the exact same model as ours, just we have the 120hz screen.

Here's my assumption. The HP Envy 3D 3200 WILL get switchable graphics as well as a couple new updated drivers. I think what happened was that HP sent out a few laptops to people who ordered the 17 3D and 15 and used them as a guinea pig to test it out and correct and errors.

I would not be surprised if the 17 3D's we receive from this new batch has switchable graphics OR if in the upcoming days HP releases the drivers for it.

However, I don't really want to hear from HP that it's a hardware error, i'm just not buying it as long as someone can confirm that the same graphics card in the 17 non-3D has switchable graphics.

 

wondering how much more battery does the non 3d model gets

 

I get slightly over 5 hours on battery. Someone reported they get 3:25 with the 3D version.

 

intereesting... my friend with the 3xxx 15 says he gets around 4-5 hrs with browsing and music... the ivy one should be around 6 then

 

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Hello -

I certainly hope your Envy arrives soon, but some of us ordered on the 3rd or 4th (not sure if there's other dates out there) that have NO clue on the status of their laptop, or if/when it will be shipped. It's just one story after another, and by folks who barely speak English. I've heard my ship date will be the 13th, 20th, 25th, and 26th by several different HP reps. On my order status - It STILL says my laptop will ship by June 13th. That's just ridiculous.... especially for a techology company. In all honestly, I feel they are clueless, and are unable to resolve anything. I have no idea what to believe anymore.

This latest HP experience has been a miserable process, and I've owned about 12 HP Desktops & Laptops personally, and many more for my business. If this is how HP is now handling customer service problems, I doubt I will spend any money with them on future purchases... but I do wonder if all the PC makers are just as bad. It seems like a no-win situation !

What's become clear to me, is lower prices = no customer service.

 

oh there are some people from the first few days that havent shipped yet?? I feel bad for u guys . atleast i know that mine is stuck in fedex office in shanghai.

the problem is that even with the coupon the envy ISNT low pricing. You could get the same hardware/software from a dv6 for less. its dissapointing to see how little they care of their premium line. I understand if it was like a budget $200 laptop when they dont really put much effort into it but seriously, this is their premium line. If this is what they do with the best... i feel sorry for the lower products

 

Supply and demand. The premium machines are far less demanded than the cheaper Pavilion machines, and thus takes longer to assemble.

 

ehh but for paying a higher price I would expect better CS. also, its not the fact that its takin glong. its the fact that people who ordered a week after the initial release have theirs in their hand while the first people who ordered within the first few hours are still waiting. I think most people would be fine patiently waiting to get their premium product

 

Thanks a bunch, I was not aware of the software you pointed me to but it seems it should do exactly what I wanted with just one install!!

 

Mine is also awaiting container transport from Shanghai as well and is ahead of schedule and I think the 3D with the 120 Hz screen is only availble on the 17" Envys & not the dv6 or others... I think the discounted pricing IS very good as the comparable AlienWare M17x 3D was $2,868.99 vs $1,340.53 for my HP Envy 17 3D (heavy discounts & rebate support from HP and minimal from Dell). That is a SAVINGS of $1,528.46 (or 53%) for a very similar configuration. Note my original HP price before discounts & rebates was $2,439.99.
To be fair, anytime a refresh is done and things are changing there will be bugs, issues, & fallout... That being said, HP should have been all over the orders for people that were caught in the switchover by now and done something extra for them... At a minimum they should have already picked the closest quick ship model that meets or exceeds the order (upgrade for free if necessary) and gotten them out the door.

 

It was confirmed multiple times, the non-3d 17" version of the envy does have switchable graphics or anyways something very similar, and it can be set by also by right-clicking on the desktop.

As for your prediction, I wouldn't be so sure about the whole thing. As it has been mentioned before, other 3d-enabled laptops do suffer from the same issue, so it's at the very least something not really easy to solve. It might be possible that Ivy bridge integrated graphics have some problem keeping up with the 120hz refresh rate of the screen, or it might just be that the current bios are not properly set. In any case, I'd say there's a 50/50 chance to get a switchable 3d model later on, be it a new version or just an update of some sort....

 

exactly. we will both probably get it at the same time when mine was actually scheduled to ship on the 13 and urs weeks after. That's what annoys me. If HP was out of stock for parts or some other thing, if they pushed back the shipping date by like 3 weeks for EVERYONE not just the first few, I would be completely fine with that.

Also, Don't get me wrong I like the discounts but they arent giving the envys to us for dirt cheap. we are still paying over a grand for each.

 

Ordered mine on the 12th

HP expected ship date 22nd

Based on everyone's experience here, I expect to win the lottery before predicting my actual ship date.

 

Hi guys,

Quick question here, I will have the Envy 17 soon with 750gb Hybrid Drive, but I really want a SSD (my friend strongly recommended Samsung 830 for safer) so is this possible to replace the Hybrid Drive with the new samsung SSD and place the original hybrid into 2nd drive? Will envy 17 have 2 detacheable hdd to do that?

One more thing that HP use intel 320 ssd (old model ) option on their build and I really hate something outdated . If I replace, maybe my warranty will be voided and....

 

Just got off the phone with Fedex Int'l and it seems the palette with our laptops might actually be on a plane lol. I'll check again around 4 pm to see if there are any updates. They claim it might still be delivered on time tomorrow.

 

Yes you can switch out the Hybrid for a SSD drive. The Envy 17 apparently comes with a second SATA cable according to Maverick, but you'll need this caddy to actually mount it.

 

So the caddy and cable for the Hybrid drive will be used for the new ssd and I have to bought this caddy for the hybrid drive to mound to 2nd drive?

How about the OS? Reinstall it

 

Add a 2nd Hard Drive to a HP Envy 17 -3000 series laptop (3xxx) - YouTube

As soon as you boot up, create your restoration discs. Then shutdown, switch out SSD for hard drive, reinstall from restoration discs, then you can format the Hybrid drive and use it just for storage.

 

Let me tell you, the 750gb Hybrid Hard Drive feels plenty fast. The 8gb of flash NAND does cache files pretty well, and makes things feel very snappy.

I was thinking the same way, about to buy a SSD to install into the laptop before it even arrived. Of course, any SSD will be faster than the Hybrid drive, but they're still very expensive. Prices for SSDs are dropping rapidly right now. If you can find the patience to wait, you might see SSD's starting to hit $0.50/gb prices by the end of summer, which is the magic price point for me right now.

Personally, I found that the Hybrid drive option is pretty fast already, and will be good enough to hold onto until SSD prices drop some more. Unless you've got money to burn, I'd recommend getting your Envy 17, trying out the Hybrid drive, and seeing if that's fast enough for you.

 

Agree on all points. I'm fine with waiting - if everyone else was waiting. What ticks me off, is that others who ordered well after me, have either receieved their ENVY's or they are enroute. Why are there so many orders in limbo ? Cant the folks at the factory realize an order placed on the 4th, should be built & shipped before an order placed on the 5th ? Havent they ever heard of "first in, first out" ?.

The other issue is the constant nonsense being supplied by the customer service folks. I'm convinced that HP is fabricating all excuses known to man, to try and keep the customer from cancelling their orders.

All around, the whole experience has been a failure. If the Envy ever arrives, I hope it will be worth the aggravation.

On another note, I hope I didnt make a mistake ordering the 3D model - though I mostly use it at a Desk. From what I'm reading, it seems as long as it's plugged in, I should be ok. Let's hope there will be a fix for the graphics switching issue.

 

I feel like we are all in a cult. lol envy 17 where is the fedex plane with our laptops branch!!??

Hope the plane reaches fast. Also I have the 2 day shipping so what are the chances that it goes direct to me here in Louisiana ?

 

What do you mean direct? China to Louisiana? None. All the laptop that comes from shanghai arrives at anchorage, Alaska. Then after that it'll prolly be from alaska to your big city in that state then locally then to you.

 

sounds good for me. I found some samsung 830 ssd 128gb for ~$100 and plan to replace, but let give the hybrid drive a try. I never use hybrid drive before, all I know is feedback from everyone

 

I am in the same boat. Please let me know whenever your Envy ships (hopefully tomorrow).

 

I had already bought my SSD while waiting for this damn thing to be built and shipped lol. Either way I would've gone the SSD route just to test it out.

 

Hi Everyone,

Can anyone offer a phone number or email address of a resolutions office that is US based ? All I'm able to reach, is folks in the Philippines. Thank you !

 

If I create a restoration disk, then wipe the envy and upgrade to ultimate, could I use the restoration disk to get back the programs before the wipe, or is it just for drivers? Thanks guys

 

No disrespect, but I honestly don't care about "other" manufactures, the previous model - the 17t-3000 model - HAD switchable graphics and that was 3D. So hearing about other models does very little benefit to me knowing that nearly the same specs as this one had it.

I can't imagine that a brand-new processor is going to have a hard time keeping up with 120hz either. When i was looking at the specs for their processor it said 3D supported (or something along those lines). I won't believe for a second that an older processor can handle a 120hz screen whereas this new generation won't.

To me, it's all drivers. I feel the hardware can easily handle it, it's just going to come down to whether HP is going to take the time to support it. And given that the previous 3D model had it, I see no reason why this one wouldn't down the road.

 

It may not be a driver issue. The 7850m may be wired directly to the monitor. Because the previous model had it doesn't mean anything. It's a completely new motherboard and components.

 

Very true here, it's a new chipset we have...

 

1) Create the recovery discs,

2) save C:\swsetup to a permanent media (flash drive you'll NEVER erase, CD/DVD, SD Card, etc...) ** If you have a 3D version then also save
C:\Program Files (x86)\TriDef -- Your software license is in there**

3) Don't wipe, just pop in the upgrade disc and do a clean install.

4) Then reinstall the programs with the contents of the SWsetup folder.

 

Same just called FedEx, they're telling me it's leaving Anchorage this afternoon between 3 and 4pm AKDaylightTime to Memphis. According to the rep, HP forgot the shipping invoice, and it's not something that happens often. Words will be had with HP. Great to know that my envy will hopefully be in my hands tomorrow morning Finally

 

Then i'm going to go back to my other point, im assuming there's no way HP used a different motherboard or layout for the Envy 17 and 17 3D, thus if they "just" wired in the monitor for our version, i can't imagine they would change this for the non-3D version.

So if switchable graphics works for the exact same specs and version for the non-3D system, again I don't see how a 120hz monitor would alter this for our 3D model lol it just doesn't make sense to me on a hardware standpoint with all of your arguments.

 

I think I checked the package tracker link on my phone about 30 times in the past 2 days. Seeing Anchorage instead of Shanghai at the top of the screen was pretty sweet.

When I talked to Fedex yesterday, they said that similar shipments in the past 2 days had been received in Anchorage and left within just a few hours. Yesterday, I doubted seeing my laptop anytime this week, but it looks like it's entirely possible we'll get them on time.