Envy 15 2nd Gen Benchmarks

I've got one of each display type and the glossy is far superior when viewed side by side. Higher brightness (225 nits vs. 165nits) better contrast ~ 550:1 vs ~ 375:1 and it is much sharper. The added brightness makes it more viewable with direct light on the screen but you do have to live with the reflections.

The SSD's are 1.8" and usally g1's (I got lucky with G2's), They come configured in RAID0 so it doesn't really matter since TRIM won't work in RAID configs anyway.

 

are you comparing the matte (1920x1080) vs the brightview (1366x768) or ultra brightview (1920x1080)? i'd rather get the lower resolution screen if the quality is as good as the 1080p panel. if not, sounds like the 1080p glossy is the way to go. can you comment on the vertical viewing angles? thanks much!

 

Was comparing 1080P's. Vertical angle is very good, better from above than below, colors will 'wash out' but still very 'readable'. The horizontal is quite good also. Windows 7 does an excellent job of scaling text and most applications graphics, you don't need to really worry about most things appearing to small. I leave it at a scale of 125% which is about the same scale as my Dell 17" 1705's 1920 x 1200 res screen, but it looks 10 times better

 

Just so we get back on topic I'm posting my DirectComputer/OpenCL benchmarks below

Default ATI 5830 500/800
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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series @ 500 MHz (1002 / 68A1 / 1522103C)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz (8 logical CPUs)

Benchmark version: v0.45
DirectCompute: D2246.6
OpenCL: C1185.9
CPU: M32.3

AMD multi-vendor Miniport Driver
amdkmdap 8.14.01.6099
Windows 7 x64 Enterprise Edition (build 7600)


Overclocked ATI 5830 575/1150
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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series @ 575 MHz (1002 / 68A1 / 1522103C)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU Q 720 @ 1.60GHz (8 logical CPUs)

Benchmark version: v0.45
DirectCompute: D2561.9
OpenCL: C1432.4
CPU: M31.3

AMD multi-vendor Miniport Driver
amdkmdap 8.14.01.6099
Windows 7 x64 Enterprise Edition (build 7600)

I would luv to see comparisons with other notebooks and even the Gen1 with the 4830

 

Where can I download the benchmark? Is it a free version?

 

They're 1.8 (the Envy holds 2 1.8" drives or one 2.5"), they came in RAID 0, and they're G1s.

Some people got G2s but I haven't seen anybody who has ordered a new one in the last four to six weeks receive G2s.

 

FWIW, the matte display I have gets very bright. I wouldn't want it any brighter. I can't speak to sharpness and I have no doubt that the glossy screen is fantastic. I just hate the reflections.

 

Its free and the developer is still getting feedback from the users and making changes to the scoring system.

Heres the link http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards/16920-directcompute-and-opencl-benchmark.html

 

Thanks. Downloaded v.45 but it will not recognize my openCL. Do I need to D/L the ATI ---sdk link in the read me file or could it be an issue with the 10.3 drivers ?

CPU score M26.7

 

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Thanks to 'lepton'

 

<--Eagerly awaiting my Envy 15.

Back on topic though, a desktop 5770 absolutely obliterates our 5830 mobility.

We're talking ~16,000 3dmark06.

Although laptops have come a long way, graphics cards are still a few generrations behind (heat is still an issue where as even desktop cpu's have dropped dramatically in temperature over the years).

That's a desktop GTX 260 caliber card we're talking about.

The 5770 is seriously an obscene bang for the buck @ 130 bucks or so AR.

 

Well the 5830 uses the same die as the desktop 5770. The biggest difference is the memory bandwidth / speed and of course the power consumption. Considering the 5830 uses about 1/3 the power and half the bandwidth of the 5770 it is quite amazing that it can get 8000 default 3dmark06 pts. Anyway, I think I made it clear in my reply that the desktop version would be much higher performance....

 

To run the OpenCL benches the Stream SDK needs to be installed. This benchmark will max out the GPU temps to ~75C

 

We need someone to get a bios dump. I am wondering if there are un-lockable voltage bumps. With how good the cooling is, I bet the core and mem could stand just a small bump.

 

no doubt. my desktop 5850 OCs like a champ (+30%). these mobile parts should have plenty of headroom as well but we need extra power to take advantage.

 

Also the mobile 5830,5850, and 5870 all based from the same core. Differences are clock speeds and the 5870 uses GDDR5 vs GDDR3.

 

Actually the 5850 & 5870 can use either DDR3 or GDDR5, its up to the laptop makers as to which they use. According to notebookcheck if the DDR3 memory is used then you face the possibility of memory bottleneck.

"If (G)DDR3 is used by the laptop vendor the performance clearly suffers noticable."

 

I am able to get +30% OC without adjusting the voltage. Also remember that the mobile GPU's get only half of a PCI E bus, not full 16 like desktops. On my envy the GDDR3 is definately the bottle neck when OC'ing, not the core.

 

No I think they get full 16. even if they did not, its PCI-E 2.0 and even at X8 there would be zero difference.

 

Also your 30% may not be the norm. I rembering back to the Dell 9300 days with the 7800GTX and later on the 7900GS cards. Bios flash upped the voltage a touch and help performance quite a bit.

 

There is quite a range of variance in both the GPU and memory speeds people are getting, but none of the 4 BIOS updates from HP have really changed my max stable clocks.

Funny you mention the 9300 / 7900GS, that's my what my Envy replaced (9400/1705), it now serves mainly as a notebook stand for the envy when on a soft surface . It really amuses me when people start to worry about the idle temps on the evny processors, my 7900 idles at 64C and the T7200 at 58C.

 

Sorry if this has already been refuted, but the GTS 360m nvidia has out in laptops SUCKS. It's worse than their last gen 260m gtx's. Okay so it doesn't suck but it's certainly nowhere near a GDDR5 5850 (which is out on the MSI gx640 and is basically just a downclocked 5870) and probably worse than the 5830 by a tad bit..

 

Well the GTX 260m has a 256 bit memory bus which puts it at healthy pace higher than the newer brethren even those with GDDR5 but the 5830 is by far the most power efficient with a 24W TDP.

 

Sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with that, because with GDDR5 the 128bit memory bus really doesn't matter. The 5850 is essentially a 10% downclocked 5870, which destroys the 280m, never mind the 260m.

 

Your can't compare units with GDDR3 vs GDDR5 fairly.

The GTX 260M with GDDR5 wil beat the 5850 with GDDR5, the other nvidias you try to compare can only support GDDR3. You must be thinking of the GTS 260M

Here is a performance listing of current class1 GPU's using GDDR3 so your looking at honest performance comparisons (from notebookcheck):



It is cool that MSi is using GDDR5 which is not very common.

That being said, this whole topic really does not belong on this thread. If you want why not start a ATI vs. Nvidia thread to continue this argument

 

Can anyone tell me how to OC my 5830 please???
I have tried AMD GPU CLOCK and it said "No valid device found!"
Please help me...

 

You have to use the latest version: http://downloads.guru3d.com/AMD-GPU-Clock-Tool-v0.9.26.0-For-HD-5870-download-2383.html

 

man I was hoping the envy could game for at least 2 years but the gpu can't even handle its 1080p res, whats the point of 1080 then

 

Not sure what you expect, it runs fine at 1080p on most current games, on some you just need to use lower settings for higher frame rates. This is a 5.2 lb 1" thick notebook, nothing even comes close to the envy's performance in this form factor. You want a hardcore gaming machine then you won't get anything nearly as light or portable.

 

the gx640 is in its form factor

 

It's about a pound more. It's definitely the closest competitor, though...if you can stand the red stripe.

 

5.9 vs 5.1 lbs.. my last laptop was 6.9 (with only a 7600 inside), so both are really light considering how powerful they both are! They have a similar footprint, and the GX640 is 1.2" thick compared to 1.1".

 

Yeah, I'm not smack-talking the GX640. It's a lot of laptop in a small package. That .9lbs makes it 15% heavier, which is not insignificant, though I would agree with you that it still makes it a semi-light notebook.

If I could tolerate the red stripe on the GX640 I'd have considered it. HP also has a better deal with the dual SSDs (I think Xotic wants $400+ for one G2; HP wants $550 for two).

 

Not really. It's a full pound heavier and it starts at 1.22" thick and gets thicker toward the rear, they don't give the thickest dimension but from the side view it looks at least over 1.5". And it has a much lower res screen, with the envy you could just reduce res as needed for gaming and then still get your 1080p.

 

yes this is true, but the msi is better price performance, A little thicker but its less wide as well, also who uses 1080p in a 15 inch screen, it can't even really be noticed till around a 32 inch tv. Also no one can beat msi warranty 3 compared to 1 year is drastic difference. Not saying the envy isn't a good machine it should just be sold no more than around 800 bucks max base. I think if hp stood behind there product more with at least a 2 year warranty it would be different, but 1 year for a 1000 and up pc is ridiculas. Also why have 1080p if the laptop can't play games on high with it, its always better to have a lower res and play higher than higher res and loose fps

 

You can play all games at 1080p, just in some without max settings.

As for 1080p, I guess you don't do much image editing, with my pro cameras I can't even see 1/4 of an image at 100% resolution at 1080p, any lower resolution would be ridiculous.

The pricing is your own opinion, IMO the envy is a bargain at the regular pricing.

Enjoy your MSI when you get....

 

My Envy just died. Wow that was fast. Definitely returning for the Gx640 now.

 

wow u only has it for 2 weeks, thats crazy scary, man now I am really debating the cancel order and not even trying it. However some people seem fine with there envy, also people complain about msi customer service. This is tuff, can anyone here convince someone why they should buy an envy, not including portablitity.

 

Every single manufacturer produces laptops that die. That's why you look at how good the service + warranty is. If yours died after two weeks you should be able to get HP to take some $$$ off your order for your trouble - I got them to extend my warranty to 3 years from 2 when mine arrived broken.

 

What do you mean died?? What happened?

 

i really want to try the envy but its 4 days past ship

 

A gentle reminder. This is the benchmarks Thread. Please stay on topic !

General Envy 15 discussions should be posted on the HP Envy owners lounge threads: HERE or HERE

Those links go tot the most recent pages, a lot of good/useful info available on the 1st page of both threads also...

 

LOL and in the MSI threads including my review you mostly just pound the MSI for not having full HD and "dying in 6 months because of overheating", and then going on and on about how good an Envy is. I don't get what you're trying to do

 

Look at his name, LOL. He's just sniping I guess, good to read your post, now I know to just ignore him in the future, I just wish i hadn't posted the links to the other Envy threads

 

Smells like Troll. Ban?

 

I didn't bash the msi thats why I have one on order, grow up kid. Also it is a con it dosn't have full hd, and has high heat, but I still bought one. I was just saying those are cons for it cause there where people asking about it. Also I said an envy is nice looking which is a pro but I did not say it was good, I said it was a decent machine just overpriced in the end its an hp. Get it right.

 

also no troll here just was gettin info about the envy and msi cause I had them both on order, but went with the msi in the end for warranty, and like I said before both machines have there pros in cons, but in the end the warranty on the msi one me over, also hps delays .

 

PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC!

Or go to an appropriate thread.

 

can someone do the driverheaven photoshop v3 benchmark on cs4? i'm very curious to know how well it performs. thanks!