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    Envy 15 2nd Gen Benchmarks

    Discussion in 'HP' started by jyar727, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Koshinn

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    Send me a link and I'll do it.
     
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    I just ran a 8024 on 3DMark06, bone stock with battery slice attached (does that block a vent on the bottom?)
     
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    Someone has bad company 2?
    Can you test 1280x720, 1600x900, 1920x1080 at different settings and tell me your average FPS (also if their minimums below 30FPS)

    Thanks
     
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    I ran it months ago when i had my first i7 model, can't remember exact score but it basically blew all notebooks away and even some of the higher end desktops. It was almost 2.5 times faster than the MBP 15 2.8Ghz '09 unibody. Don't have a copy on this envy with the i5 CPU, if I get time I'll try to run it again on this machine and post results.
     
  6. wordsworth03

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    Well that's awesome to hear. I wanted to compare the score with my oc'ed Q9450 b/c I am pondering switching over to a notebook. I am more than happy with the performance of my desktop, so if a notebook could match it, that would be awesome.
     
  7. JJB

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    Here is a screen of an 'Everest photoworxx' benchmark I just ran which ranks the performance against other CPU's, should give you an idea of where the i5 540M Envy falls. It looks like all the other listings are actually desktop CPU's....

    PHOTOWORXX1.PNG
     
  8. Koshinn

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    I ran the Photoshop CS4 benchmark on my i7-720QM, but I noticed it was only really using 1 core.

    That said, here are my scores:

    1.7
    2.0
    1.9
    23.9
    2.9
    24.7
    1.3
    13.3
    3.2
    10.4
    78
    57.8
    22.8
    20.8
    37.3
     
  9. wordsworth03

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    Thanks a lot Koshinn. Those scores are pretty good...right now my desktop did around 220sec total while yours was around 300sec. The fastest desktop i7's I've seen do around 170sec. I wonder how much of a difference I would really notice...your setup looks sweet with the dual SSD's and ATI HD5830. I'll have to continue to ponder this dilemma
     
  10. Koshinn

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    Yeah the CS4 benchmark doesn't look like it favors quadcores very much. If I had a higher clocked i5, I'd do better.

    I just got 15 FPS on the Unigine Dx11 benchmark at 720p resolution and everything at high, no AA.
     
  11. JJB

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    Here are my Photoshop CS4 benchmarks with the 540M:

    0.9
    1.3
    1.5
    19.7
    2.5
    20.7
    1.0
    11.0
    2.0
    8.5
    66.0
    52.6
    18.9
    17.5
    29.6

    253.7 Total

    I'm running the 10.5 driver which does not support openGL in photoshop since it is not signed, since this bench uses openGL I am not sure if it is getting the full GPU performance, wish I could find my original i7 720Q results to compare with Koshinn's times...
     
  12. Koshinn

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    Yeah I was right, a higher clocked i5 system scores better than a quad core i7 because photoshop does not take advantage of multiple cores. Sad times.

    Oh, my GPU utilization was 0% throughout the benchmark.
     
  13. wordsworth03

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    huh, that's really interesting...i'm surprised an i5 would be faster and i thought cs4 utilized the graphics card much more.
     
  14. JJB

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    That's why I never reloaded that benchmark when I switched to the i5 version, it did not seem to be a very good test of the whole system. To confirm your observation on GPU usage, I actually ran it again with max OC of 633/1133 and the total score was only about 4 seconds faster...

    Photoshop will take advantage of multiple cores in certain situations though. When I had my i7 720 I was dissapointed with the speeds of batch processing very large image folders (1GB+ of ~16MB .NEF raw files). It was using only 1 or 2 cores and not at full load. A friend gave me a tip that surprised me, I was selecting a whole folder to batch process in photoshop, what he showed me was that if I opened the folder and 'selected all' and then started the batch process run, Voila! all 4 cores lit up and got the folder processed in less than half the time :cool:

    PS: Are you using a 'digitally signed' WHQL ATI driver? If not, Photoshop will not recognize that the GPU has openGL capabilities and 'greys out' the openGL options in preferences settings. Since driverheaven says that the bench stresses openGL GPU capability, I am wondering if this impacts the results since my driver is not signed...
     
  15. Koshinn

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    I was usign the ATI driver from the Envy15 drivers thread. 10.3 posted 20 Mar 10.
     
  16. JJB

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    Well I guess that shows that even though photoshop doesn't recognize the openGL ability of my GPU it has no bearing (or little) on the benchmark. Your first impression that it uses no GPU processing is very true :)
     
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    so..has anyone tried metro 2033 on the envy yet?
     
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    yea i have it.

    i play it oced at 530/990
    my settings:
    1920 x 1080
    all medium
    physics on high

    i get average 40 fps. it dips to 20~25 when something explodes in my face. but otherwise it hovers around 30~50 fps.

    on stock clocks, the game runs the same settings at approx 30 fps average. dips down to 15 when something explodes close in my field of view
     
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    and what about a 720P or 900P resolution? Does it get much better framerates than? Could it be that your i5 420M is bottlenecking the gfx?
    How hot gets the GPU while gaming (stock & OC)?

    Thanks
     
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    Can you provide a link to the photoshop benchmark test you used? I looked through this forum I found one, but I don't think it is the one you used:
    http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=2354

    Many thanks!

    Edit: I think you used this one, right? http://www.hardwareheaven.com/photoshop.php
     
  22. JJB

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    De-raided the two SSDs in my Envy and also just installed two new 160GB X-25Ms in my desktop (went from zero to four SSDs!). No RAID for any of them.

    Desktop is a Q9650 with 8 gigs of DDR2 RAM on a Gigabyte EP45-UD3P board with both SSDs on the primary SATA controller. Included only as a point of reference.

    Envy has a fresh install with Rapid Storage manager and SSD toolbox installed. Desktop has SSD toolbox but not RST.

    All SSDs tested have at least 30 gigs of data filled and at least 50 gigs free. All tests were done with 5 trials of 1 gig. Numbers are all MB/Sec.

    Desktop scores:

    Desktop SSD1 (boot drive, X-25M 160GB):

    Sequential read: 262.8
    Sequential write: 110.7
    512k random read: 200.9
    512k random write: 112.8
    4k random read: 21.42
    4k random write: 50.66
    4k QD32 random read: 155.8
    4k QD32 random write: 87.21

    Desktop SSD 2 (X-25M 160GB):

    Sequential read: 261.2
    Sequential write: 111.0
    512k random read: 200.6
    512k random write: 112.1
    4k random read: 21.29
    4k random write: 49.28
    4k QD32 random read: 157.5
    4k QD32 random write: 84.13

    HP Envy 15 SSD 1 (X-18M, 160GB, boot drive):

    Sequential read: 253.9
    Sequential write: 108.0
    512k random read: 186.2
    512k random write: 108.9
    4k random read: 16.14
    4k random write: 26.63
    4K QD32 read: 152.9
    4K QD32 write: 83.00

    HP Envy 15 SSD 2 (X-18M. 160GB)

    Sequential read: 254.2
    Sequential write: 107.1
    512k random read: 188.6
    512k random write: 109.0
    4k random read: 15.42
    4k random write: 25.77
    4k QD32 random read: 155.2
    4k QD32 random write: 85.80
     
  24. dapreview

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    did you also run that test while it was still in RAID-0? I am curious how much faster that is.
     
  25. Aquitaine

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    I didn't, sorry - it would've been with all the HP bloatware installed and I didn't want to do two fresh installs.
     
  26. ozu

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    Basically the same numbers I was getting. I also ran CrystalDisk prior to installing Intel Rapid Storage Tech and the numbers were more or less the same other than the the 4K QD32. Those were in the ~100read/80write range.
     
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    Any recommendations on a fast and not too ridiculous expensive SSD Drive? HP sold ssd's are made by who?
     
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    Wrong thread. Sorry.
     
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    the SSD's that come with the custom Envy's from HP Direct are 1.8 inch Intel X-18 G2's or X-18G1's. surprisingly, the pricing for the replacement SSDs on the HP product page for CTO Envy 15 seems to be much cheaper than any independent SSD reseller I could find online.

    Here are my benchmarks for the G2's (2x160GB in Raid0). If I understand correctly, the 4k random read speed is about 10x slower than what it should be - it is even slower than the 4k write speed

    CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (C) 2007-2008

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    Sequential Read : 469.045 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 155.626 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 253.068 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 133.743 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB : 10.294 MB/s
    Random Write 4KB : 55.438 MB/s
    Test Size : 100 MB Date : 2010/03/10 1:54:01
     
  30. Aquitaine

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    I don't think it's 10x slower. My desktop G2s were only around 21.5 for 4k random read.
     
  31. JJB

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    @Aquitaine (or anyone)

    Interesting. I just noticed today after running TRIM that my boot disc seems to be losing write speeds on the 512K and QD32 tests (see screen shot). My 'D' or storage drive has almost the same numbers you posted.

    After running TRIM and getting the slower results I re-ran it again (multiple times) and it seems to take 5-6 minutes to complete each TRIM run. Normally after running TRIM if I re-run it again it takes like 10 seconds to complete. My 'D' drive completes the second run in seconds as always. As far as I know nothing has changed since I did the TRIM maintainance last week :confused: Any ideas why I am seeing this ?

    CD03.PNG
     
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    He is in RAID0, IIRC it should be around 70 - 100MB/s for 4K read.
     
  33. daraj

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    This is my single Intel X25 80GB Benchs. The Seq write speeds sucks big time on this SSD.
     

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    Aquitaine Notebook Evangelist

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    When you say 'running TRIM' do you mean the Intel SSD toolbox optimization?

    I thought Win7 did this auto-magically; is there conclusive evidence that we ought to run it separately via the Toolbox?
     
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    And along with Aquitaine's question, the SSD Optimizer in the toolbox can't be run on a dynamic disk and since I use dynamic disks to extend my D: drive, is there any way I can make sure the disks are running TRIM other than blind faith?
     
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    How'd you end up with the Wifi 6300? I'm sure the Envy comes with a 6200. The 6300 uses an additional antenna... surely the Envy didn't have extra antenna to connect if you upgraded it...?
     
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    Which tool is best for GPU OC? Download link please

    BTW who use notebook cooler for envy & which is better?

    Is there any dissemble guide for envy? I wanna replace my HDD with 512GB Kingston SSD (Free from my office :p)
     
  38. daraj

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    I installed it myself. I connected only 2 wires to it because their is no 3rd wire. I had the 6300 laying around so I poped it in.
     
  39. ozu

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    AMD GPU Clock Tool for your Envy.

    http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/1641/AMD_GPU_Clock_Tool_v0.9.26.0_For_HD_5870.html

    Also, I use a Zalman NC2000 as a cooler. I'm not in a position to determine whether it's "the best" but it's certainly top notch in every way.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834998686&cm_re=nc2000-_-34-998-686-_-Product
     
  40. JJB

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    Here the service manual link (Note: 2.7MB .pdf): http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01911053.pdf

    This is the only one I know of, it was for the original gen 1 model but should be correct for the gen 2. Also be aware that when reading the disassembly instructions you can skip over the part about removing the actual keyboard and it's 60+ screws, that is not necessary as the whole top panel comes off with the keyboard attached.
     
  41. JJB

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    It is supposed to but I still run the optimization weekly to be sure, I never have seen anything that says running it manually causes any problems and I'm not worried about the extra wear on the drive since it will still last over 27 years, even with daily 100% read / write cycles....

    One thing I have noticed is that running TRIM sometimes takes 5 - 10 minutes with lots of SSD and CPU activity while other times it is almost instant, I assume this depends on how 'fragmented' (for lack of a better term) the drive is. My storage drive is almost always a very short TRIM cycle unless I have deleted a ton of data, the boot drive varies significantly. So my thinking is if it is working 'automatically' in windows then why sometimes does it take so long to process the manual TRIM optimization...so I run it manually once a week.

    I have no idea about that, sorry...
     
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    has anyone figured out how to overvolt or undervolt the GPU yet?
     
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    [​IMG]

    Just barely eked out my roommates g51Vx w/ q9000 and gtx260m.

    I wouldn't recommend running at this speed long term!!!

    i7 620 w/ 4gb stock ram @ default res. 1280x1024
     
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    Thanks guys. I'm gonna do it this weekend.
     
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    Just looked up my old scores for my first Envy (which was running 10.3) - 5400 GPU score on 3dMark Vantage for 550/1100.

    Just benchmarked my new one at stock speeds for 720p and got a GPU score of 6199 under the 10.6 driver from Strags. It wouldn't run at 550/1100 so I'm going to start inching it up to see how high it can go -- still, pretty amazing difference.
     
  47. JJB

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    Please clarify above. Are you saying you got a total score of P6199 or was that just the GPU score? Was that with or without the OC'ing ? Also why are you running it at 720p? The benchmark defualts of 1280 x 1024 should be used for a 'standardized' score to compare to other systems...

    I may update to the 10.6 driver later today, any issues or problems encountered with your update? also what BIOS are you running?

    Thanks
     
  48. Aquitaine

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    Ah, I didn't remember that they weren't at 720p to begin with. No wonder I was so impressed. :) I got it up 7000 but only on 720p.

    Resetting it to the default, I can get an overall score of 5781 and a GPU score of 5290 with a 530/1050 OC.
     
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    They have the 10.4a preview released yesterday: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATI-Catalyst-10-4-a-Hotfix.aspx
     
  50. JJB

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    That sounds more like it. My best overall at 1280 x 1024 was P6575 at OC of 633/1133. That's with the 10.5 driver.
     
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