Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

Ive been having a little problems gaming recently. I play Dod/CS source all the time, it would run in the 100s FPS until I limited it to 60 ( from advice here that 100 is useless, and 60 would help with my heating problems ) and everything was going well. Until just a day or two ago. When Im just sitting in a small room Ill get 60 fps, but when I get into the open or any area that thats somewhat crowded it drops to 15-25 fps. Any reason?

( I have almost full specs on my dv6tqe just to give you an idea, and Ive only had it for a month )

 

100 fps isn't useless. It will make the game smoother. The difference may not truly matter and you may get tearing but for some games it can be useful.

I personally don't think there is any reason to artificially cap FPS or use vsync unless you get tearing you don't like.

 

I think it's 11.6.

 

nope its 11.5

 

With a game like that, 15 - 25 fps is a bit odd. Nevertheless, enabling vsync (what I'm guessing you used to lower the maximum frame rate to 60) tends to bring down the overall frames as well. This is the case, as vsync essentially forces your graphics card to operate differently.

More helpful / detailed links:

TweakGuides.com - Gamer's Graphics & Display Settings Guide
Guides: How to Get Rid of Lag - GeForce

*Yes I know the second link is from an Nvidia site, but the core concepts are fairly sound across the board.

 

For the 61xx and 6xxx Intel Series .... It's 11.4 from the HP site with a really really minor revision *.1000 to *.2000.

 

"sp53025.exe" is the latest driver set for the 6100, it has the 11.7 driver.

Released: 2011-05-06
Version: 8.830.6.2000

AMD High-Definition Graphics Driver HP Pavilion dv6t-6100 CTO Quad Edition Entertainment Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

 

Yeah, that is 11.4.

11.7 for OEM string is 8.86*.*. OEM model starts at 0.

Non-OEM 11.7 string is 8.87*.

 

You're right, my bad, I forgot that I had ran the 11.7 hotfix on the other laptop.

 

How would it be smoother on a 60hz screen?

 

Hell if I know but it is, aint no doubt about it

I believe it's because the screen updates 60 times a second, and giving it 120 frames means the frames that it does render will be more precise and "updated".

Without vsync 60 fps will not sync up magically with the 60 hz refresh rate. More fps gets it closer to a perfect sync

But turning on vsync introduces input lag which is a gamer's nightmare.

 

Vsync + Triple buffering allows for any framerate without screen tearing and without as much of an input latency (I'm talking about *true* Triple buffering, like how OpenGL does it, not the joke that DirectX calls Triple Buffering)

My old laptop would always run a lot cooler as long as vsync was on. And no screen tearing makes stuff look a lot nicer. It has its uses in single player games

 

There's input latency. For an RPG it doesn't matter at all but for games like counterstrike, TF2, quake, many shooters, it does matter.

But......for an average gamer, not your hardcore type, it probably doesn't matter in the end so if you get tearing go for vsync.

 

With Counterstrike it is usually the way the builder made the map, not a driver issue. The map has a flaw that causes excessive computation due to the flaw in the map that causes the frame rate to drop. so you'll see drops even on small maps with these flaws. Something about lacking occlusion in a map. Not sure.

 

I didn't use the vsync, thats still off. I used fps_max command. Even when I didnt do that, Im still having framerate issues for no reason.

Side note: Im only on DOD:source now, but it's on every map I experience this, even ones I played before that I never had problems with.

I don't understand what used my computer to play the games bad now.. and IM looking to fix it. im gonna try those links

 

LEt me ask, when you're playing DoD: Source, is it on every *official* DoD map? Or are you talking about custom maps? Just curious...

 

I think I posted this earlier, but anyone play Bad Company 2? I can't seem to get my monitor to display any progressive resolution (720p, 1080p). It is always interlaced (720i, 1080i, etc) for every resolution it supports...

 

im getting HP dv6t Quad Edition • Intel Quad Core i7-2820QM (2.3 GHz, 8MB L3 Cache) • 1GB GDDR5 Radeon HD 6770M • 8GB DDR3 System Memory

will that be great for gaming?
i'd love to play crysis 2, gta4, bff2 and upcoming bff3 at 50fps++
hmm

 

Not gonna happen unless you really turn down the settings. Go for a Sager 8150 if you want those kinds of frames.

 

Better get something with GTX560M.

 

The 2820M for that cost to upgrade to it isn't worth it. Looks like you have a large budget so just shoot for something with at least a 460m. Sager 8130/8150 being your best bets.

 

ops just bought this system
its arriving about 10-14 days time to Singapore
I believe I don't need 2gb of ati 6770m though
i believe it's only increased about 1-3 fps in game?
System with nvidia 560m has about 3kg weight though and the battery life is way too fast..
May i know whats the battery life on normal use (power saving gpu) and gaming mood?
is the ati 6770m pair with ati 5850m?



2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2820QM Processor 2.3 GHz/8MB L3 Cache with Turbo Boost up to 3.4 GHz
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Technology automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance that`s smart performance with a speed boost
8GB DDR3 SDRAM System Memory
640GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6770M VRAM switchable Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
HP TrueVision HD Webcam & Digital Microphone
Integrated Finger Print Reader
Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN & Bluetooth with Wireless Display Support
Intel Wireless Display enables you to project personal content, online TV shows, movies, videos, and more, on your TV
Beats(TM) audio for superior sound and two speakers that tilt
Two USB 3.0 Ports
15.6" Diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366x768)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

 

the 5850 is as powerful as the 6770. Why no 1080p screen? You would notice that much more than the 2720>2820 processor upgrade, and games look so much nicer.

 

That's great I'm happy with the performance on ati 5850m but with overclocked 850/1100 :d
Fullhd will make my hand itchy to change games setting to 1080p screen and make my fps a lot lower than this normal resolution lol
Most important thing is my cpu i7 2820 + 8gb ram + great gpu
Im thinking to invest a 256gb ssd though :dt

 

No way the 6770m is as powerful as the 5850. Maybe the 6770m can close the gap a little with some OC to the gddr3 version but it'll still be miles behind the gddr5 version.

 

I just checked notebook check benchmarks. They must have the GDDr3 listed.

 

meaning ati 5850m is faster than ati 6770m? =/

 

If we're talking the GDDR5 card, then yes.

 

I thought ati 6770m is gddr5 card? Hmmm

 

It does use GDDR5, and it is not on a card, it is soldered onto the motherboard.

 

General rule of thumb concerning GPU power.

The second number is the one to look at. Generally, something like a 58XX is more powerful than anything below a 68XX. The generation of the GPU generally doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot.

Same for Nvidia, a GTX460M is still going to beat the pants off a 550.

The other thing, which others have mentioned, is that most of the 5850s tested by notebookcheck are using GDDR3 memory instead of GDDR5. Makes a difference.

 

hopefully its a small performance difference between 5850m and 6770m..
and hope i7 2820 will help the performance of multitasking and gaming mood :d

 

For the price you paid, you can definitely find something else with a much better card and good battery life. I'm guessing you paid at least $1100 - $1200?

 

yea about there..
hows the battery life on this machine?

 

lol mine after delivery and throwing in a ocz agility 3 ran me about $1500

 

Did you install DDR3-1600/PC3-12800 yourself or did that come that way from the factory?

The i7 2630QM can't use better than DDR3-1333/PC3-10600. It is superfluousness to have have DDR3-1600/PC3-12800, unless the timings were tighter at PC3-10600 specs than the DDR3-1333.

I'm just curious.

 

Look closely at the notebookcheck scores. The 6770m actually appears to be faster than the 5850m with gddr3 and pretty close (slightly less) to the gddr5 5850m at stock clocks (within 3%). However, the fastest gddr5 5850 notebookcheck tested only pulled in a 7089 3dmark vantage score at 625/1000. As we all know based on our own scores, the 6770m is actually a fair amount faster at the same memory clock. Not to say that the 5850 was pushed as far as it could go , but clock for clock, I'd call it a wash, especially since notebookcheck was using the .1000 HP drivers which are quite a bit slower.

 

Why i'm i kept getting "Driver not responding". Any idea how to fix this?
Sometimes happened when gaming, sometimes when watching movies.

 

You're right about the gddr3 version, but the gddr5 version one the notebookcheck page was been severely underclocked (405mhz vs 625mhz, 35% lower).

The 6850m gddr5 is just a rebranded 5850m gddr5, and as the envy 17 2xxx thread shows, beats the 6770m by quite a bit.

 

Nope it has the 1333 stuff in it, and yes i know my sig says 1600 but i thought i had ordered 1600 and i guess i didn't lol, so ill have to fix my sig lol.

 

You know, I've read through a lot of the posts on this forum and the one thing I've never seen is this: The dv67 and dv7t are more powerful than both the Xbox 360 and the PS3. For that reason, 9 out of 10 games that are released on all three platforms (Xbox, PS3, and PC) should look and run the best on PC. If consoles can handle them, then this laptop should be able to handle them. The only exception would be a game that is optimized for the consoles and poorly coded for Windows -- which, despite what you'll hear all over the Internetz, is actually not that common. For instance, I don't plan on having any issue playing Skyrim, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Arkham City, Modern Warfare 3, Battlefield 3 or Rage on this laptop. (Though, Rage does make me hesitate slightly...) Just my two cents. 9 out of 10 games of this generation will run on medium or high, at or near 30 fps.

 

It doesn't quite work like that. The 360 and PS3 are designed from the ground up to play games. Their architecture and OS are specialized for basically one task. Console games are also optimized from scratch for maximum performance on a specialized set of hardware.

And yes, crappy console to PC ports are pretty common.

 

Or it does. Because I own a PC copy of virtually every game that has been released for all three platforms in the last year (Black Ops, Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Alice Madness Returns, FEAR 3, Fable 3, Dirt 3, Dragon Age 2, Red Faction Armageddon). I play them at a higher resolution than their console counterparts. I play them with higher graphical detail settings than their console counterparts. On average, I gain 5-10 frames per second better rates than their console counterparts. So, unless you know something that I don't know about how the dv6t and the dv7t are suddenly going to stop performing well on a global scale in the next year or so, I'll stick to my earlier assertion: This laptop will, for the most part, handle whatever is thrown at it for the next year or so as long as what is being judged is also a console release (i.e., games like Skyrim, Deus Ex, Batman Arkham City, Rage, MW3, etc). I'm not basing this off of idle theory. The past has proven my point and I feel confident about the near future.

P.S. Oh, yeah... And there are just tons of crappy console ports in that above list...

 

are these temps fine when gaming on HP dv6 6115tx (i5 2410m, 4gb ddr3, 500gb 5400rpm , 1GB GDDR5 Radeon 6490) or is there a need to undervolt?

cpu, core1, core 2 - 67-72c
gpu temp - 66-71c
gpu core clock - 750mhz
gpu mem clock - 209 mhz
gpu fan speed - 50-100%
gpu load - 50-100%
hard disk temp - 40-45

all these are while playing games with medium(assassins creed 2) high(devil may cry 4) settings and hp cool sense on the highest mode and turbo mode disabled from power options.

 

I guess you got a magic dv6, then.

And yeah, half those games are crappy console ports. Black Ops, DA2, Crysis 2, etc.

 

That's actually pretty cool. I wouldn't worry about temps unless they're above 85-90.

 

I don't even think we can undervolt the CPU.

 

Nope. Can't touch the FSB, multiplier, voltage, etc.

 

hi , am new to this forum.
can any post the heaven benchmark...of dv6 quad 2gb notebook.

 

Pretty much nobody on here has the 2gb version because it's a waste of money.