Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

Does anyone else think that the LCD bezel on these is EXCEPTIONALLY easy to scratch? I mean, just from having the laptop closed/touching with fingers, there are pretty massive scratches on the plastic.

Looks like a VERY cheap material. Anyone think we should start a movement like Apple iPod Nano casing replacement lawsuit? lol

 

It is. I tried to scratch away a smudge with my fingers (not smart) and there's now permanent scratches on it.

 

Didn't work. =(

 

i have played dirt 3 at ultra settings at 25+ fps fullscreen:no probs, i think u should re-install the game or make changes in the options in the game

 

Force DX11 and Fullscreen in the little .ini then go to your Catalyst Control Center and let the application manage the aliasing.

It should start this way.

 

Hello all,
I know my question is off topic from what everyone else is talking about currently, but I have been racking my brain over this for weeks now and can't find one thing about my question, but it is about gaming at least.

To make a long story short, my system fan started to grind, I send my laptop back to HP so they could replace it, and of course they formatted my HDD to factory default. Well before wiping the OS, I noticed an option in my ATI CCC menu under gaming that wasn't there before, even when I first received my laptop new, or after re-formatting it with the stock HP drivers. For the life of me no where can I find that option, nor remember what it was, besides it being just a check box I believe.

If anyone can shed some light on this, It would be greatly appreciated.

 

Is anyone else getting a big black bar on the right on 1366x768/1360x768?
I have the 1920x1080 screen and stock HP AMD drivers.
BTW, the CCC is horrible with these drivers. Is there anyway to get more options? There are no scaling options and other stuff...

 

It could be one of a few things: I've had my DV7 since Jan-March and April-forward, and there were two significant options added.

The 1st one was independent Tessellation controls. ALL AMD 6000 series support Tessellation (although not all may be fast enough to use it); but HP's drivers didn't always show settings for it in CCC.

The 2nd, arguably a more significant addition was Morphological filtering; a type of anti-aliasing that AMD developed and released after the launch of the 11.x drivers. This is only shown with small checkbox at the top.
It works by using post-processing to blend radically different pixel colors within a frame and has a lower GPU load than other types of AA. It also works with nearly every game.

The catch is it can cause unwanted blurring on fine text/details where you wouldn't want things 'blended'. And for me personally it makes Firefox difficult to read if the setting is on and Firefox is using hardware acceleration.

I know I wasn't asked about MLAA, but its very useful in games such as Mass Effect 2 that don't usually support AA. Hopefully AMD will continue to improve it.

 

Oh yeah I thought I might comment on recent processor activities, since overheating has been an issue in days past.

When I got my notebook at 1st it would run happily at 3.0 GHz fully loaded all the way to 90 C (or higher, I didn't choose to find out).
It didn't slow down as it got hot, like I was lead to believe. But it did make me significantly faster =D.

After a BIOS update, and potentially other subsequent system updates, I can verify my processor behaves differently. It will still go to 3.0 GHz fully loaded initially but will scale back dynamically to an average of 2.7 GHz while maintaining a temperature of 85 C.

Honestly I'm not sure what to make of it. Either its slowed down slightly to be a little more stable, or maybe I've burned out my processor and it can't go as fast anymore. Core Voltage is 1.206. I don't know if that's good or bad but.. from what I here; high temps and high voltages contribute to processor degradation, requiring more volts to get the same speed before total burn-out.

Probably exaggerating a little, but anyway that's what I've observed.

 

Hey,
Has anyone tried the Battlefield 3 beta....because I am having serious flickering issues making the game basically unplayable.

 

The BF3 beta works fine for me after installing the 11.9 drivers over HP's default. I'm getting all low like 28-35 fps. To me, it's unplayable, but I have a low tolerance for that type of FPS.
BC2 runs way better.

 

Is the 3 GHz on all cores or just on one?

 

Have you tried OCing your GPU/lowering the resolution?

 

Is there a link to a guide to OC the GPU?

 

From what I know, BF3 is playable on Medium settings and somewhat lagging on High settings. I'll be checking out the beta this weekend.

Here's the overclocking thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...9746-overclocking-radeon-6770m-dv6t-61xx.html

 

I'm also interested in how our laptops handle BF3.. I got it installed and such but can't seem to join a server.. guessing the system just can't handle all the stress. I have it for ps3 and it was good but I just don't enjoy FPS's on the console as much as I do with a keyboard and mouse. As long as I can run the game I'd be happy. Anyone else manage to get on with the laptops?

 

I just played some time on stock settings. Might try updating drivers later on.
On On auto, parts where on ultra and high I get around 20 fps and on Medium I get around 30 or more fps.
Mostly I would suggest choosing a server instead of doing a guick match, quick match usually don't work.

So I've been playing on Medium so haven't really encountered any lag or any sort and been working good.

 

What resolution are you guys playing on? And are any of you guys experiencing flickering?

 

By "fully loaded" I meant all four cores, all eight threads.
So it was in fact 3 GHz on everything.
While it might be disappointing that I can't seem to run that high any longer, it was only a synthetic benchmark.

Fact is when gaming I turned Turbo Boost off due to excessive heat and noise; most games don't even need it.

Has anyone tried playing The Witcher 2 on this notebook?
While I can't measure my exact frame right I'd say it ranges from 10 to 25.
But, naturally, I'm unwilling to turn off HDR and ambient occlusion, max textures, etc.
For this game Turbo Boost is definitely needed; although I know I am GPU limited, no use being limited by more than I have to be.

Doesn't matter yet, since I want to finish the first game before getting invested in the sequel.
I didn't have drivers newer than 11.4 at the time, maybe it's improved now

 

Playing at 1080p resolution.

 

My built-in display is only 1600x900, punishment for pulling the trigger too soon.
I did acquire a 1080p 37in set and a 15 ft HDMI cable recently..

I haven't tried gaming on it yet, but I expect the only drawback to be lower 30% fewer FPS.

Only one game ever had "flickering" and that was Fallout 3. But I believe its a common bug for that game on AMD graphics.
My big problem is horizontal tearing.

VS doesn't reset properly after gaming so it cuts the frame somewhere in the middle instead of at the "end" of a frame.

 

is the preview driver hotfix compatible?
http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDCatalyst1110Previewdriver.aspx

 

Just installed it (literally just now) without any issues, so it works (but no tests/benchmarks yet)

 

is there any user playing gta4? does your fps unstable after first 10mins during gaming?

 

When you install new drivers..do you clear out the old drivers somehow? I started getting wierd errors...and ended up just reformatting my laptop to get the HP approved drivers...

 

you want to install them on top of the old ones

 

I'll probably get my computer today and i'll run it on there and get back to you. BTW I noticed you've overclocked your VRam, i'm no expert but it may be the issue. When you guys overclock the vram you don't notice a temp change because there is no sensor for the vram (just the core) which maybe is overheating. And after a few minutes of use the vram may be overheating enough to cause issues in gameplay... but then again I'm no expert. Just a thought try playing without overclock. BTW if vram is overheated enough it may cause permanent damage. It could also be that the processor is heating enough so it is being throttled and hence the decrease in performance after a few minutes since gta is a very extensive CPU game.

 

I installed the preview drivers without any issue. Haven't tested them in game and I'm going to wait until after dinner tonight since I'm home from school for the weekend. I'm going to try overclocking the video card eventually

 

cool. hows the first run?
i have overclock 800/1000 steady on everygame that i played.
So far so no problem except the gta4 which throttles my CPU.
I am now using my sister's alienware i7 2820qm.
My own original i7 2820qm had the same problem too.
Damn why is this cpu throttling happening to us

 

can I get some bf3 feedback? the performance wasn't the best in the world with everything on medium and all of the extra eye candy off at 1366x768, but I was only on 11.5, which was below the recommended driver version. I have since upgraded to the preview driver but have yet to play again.

 

Well i tried gta 4. I'm still running all stock with a coolsense on coolest and computer setting on recommended. My FPS is staying above 30 no matter what settings on gta but for some reason i continue to get shuttering(You have to look for it but it's annoying that i get 50+ fps and it's shuttering)... gta is badly optimize for pc. I played for quite a while and i didn't get a random fps drop though.

 

you should try to run the gta 4 on performance mode on coolsense software.
and try to overclock your gpu to 800/1000
lets see how it goes.
The coolese mode on coolsense software will not run your cpu up to turbo speed (max at 99% core clock)
do you mind to run another test for about 20-30mins time?
mine starting to throttle when i ran it about 10-15mins time mate.

 

Well i found the issue is really just with gta with shuttering. When i'm running different resolutions the frames might be at like 30 but it's smooth and when i try a lower resolution i may get lower frames and sometimes i get higher frames but shuttering issues begin(game is a horrible port). I've notice try to keep gta at near 30 fps is best. Now to the computer part of things. I'm gonna avoid overclocking at the moment because it's running every game i've thrown at it on max with good frames but I did try gta for far past one hour and with consistent frames. I have ran it on performance mode and temps increase to 84-86C(Lower fan speeds) and when i put it on coolest mode it runs max on 75C and there is no drop in performance. Try running "HP recommended" and coolsense on coolest and see how it runs. You're gonna suffer from some lag since gta just plain sucks at pc but it will run consistent.

 

1) you are obviously leaving out the fact that you are O/Cing your 6770m while running GTA4 when complaining about throttling down to 800mhz.

2) 2.3ghz constant on all 4 cores is much more than enough to run any current games. you aren't going to get any noticeable (e.g. less than 0.5) fps gains by allowing turbo.

3) you are getting the 800mhz throttling because you are running on overclocking your CPU (turbo) and GPU in a multimedia laptop, and it's too much for this laptop to handle. you didn't buy a m18x or an sager 8150 weighing 7+ lbs and twice the size. this is a slender multimedia laptop with 6770m.

4) your problem can be fixed in many ways - a) turn off gpu overclocking, b) turn off turbo, or c) keep the gpu overclocked and use throttlestop to force multipliers to 23 or turbo to prevent throttling and risk the longevity of your laptop.

 

I was saying cpu throttling not the GPU, even I downclock my gpu clock, the cpu is still throttling.
My sister is using m18x with the same cpu i7 2820qm with SLI nvidia 460m though.
The only fix i could find right now is forcing multipliers to turbo by using throttlestop.

i7 2820qm is the highest cpu type for this model, which has 3,4ghz turbo speed and 8mb cache, its running a lot hotter than i5 2410 and i7 2630
I am planning to drill holes above the CPU and fan area to get a better air circulation here..
I am wishing to get a bios update which ignoring the CPU temps lol
It would be great..

 

I'll take this one.
I think the thing to keep in mind is that BOTH the CPU and GPU share the same fan and cooling pipeline, attached to each heatsink. Typically the CPU is directly under the fan in single-fan systems, while a copper pipe runs further away to the more distant GPU.

This is CRUCIAL because an overheating CPU can easily cook other heat-sensitive parts on the same cooling pipeline such as the GPU.
Heatsinks aren't one-way. If the GPU is at any time cooler, its sink will conduct heat from the CPU or vice-versa.

When I considered my processor, even though the 2630QM far outpaces the 6770M, a faster processor can:
1: Run faster within the same TDP; or
2: Run at the same speed at a lower TDP

While, arguably, the GPU is the weakest part of this system; the remaining parts help unlock its full potential. There are NO OTHER BOTTLENECKS.

This is why the 6770M in a well equipped DV6~DV7 destroys GPUs such as the 6850M or Nvidia 555M in a shoddy, mismatched unit.
I may be going a little off-tangent, but I'd rather have a top-of-the-line, monstrous midrange card than a oversized, die-harvested, hobbling excuse of a GPU.

 

i meant, you need to take a step back and look at what your ultimate goal is. the point of running turbo and overclocking your gpu is to get the maximum frame rates in games (hopefully), rather than reaching those clockspeeds themselves.

so, for games like GTA 4, it is much more effective to disable turbo on your 2820qm and overclock the 6770m - you'll get more framerates and less overall temperature.

e.g.
1) all 4 cores on 3.0ghz and 6770m on 850/1000 = 95C and throttling of 2820qm down to 800mhz (aka 15 min fps)

2) all 4 cores on 2.3ghz and 6770m on 850/1000 = 84C and no throttling (aka 40fps min)

3) all 4 cores on 3.0ghz with bios "fix" or throttlestop and 850/1000 = 97C and 41 minimum fps. Congrats you just went from 84C to 97C for a 1fps gain.

 

I tried it at 1920 x 1080...with the Medium preset (Anisotropic Filter: 1x and Ambient Occlusion off) and i was averaging like 25fps...sometimes it would dip down to like 15..so not too great and with Coolsense on Performance Optimized my Core #1 goes up to 95 degrees C

 

I have found a fix here.
2 Days ago I repasted my thermal paste both on gpu and cpu with artic tx-4
right now I am running full performance cpu and gpu clocked at 800/1000, max temp at 81c (playing about 30 mins time), with throttling issue.

And now I tried to switch the coolsense to coolest mode, and IT WORKS WONDERFULLY!
cpu & gpu temp right now hovering at 70-74c
running about 30-40mins time playing GTA 4 without any throttling!
gpu is now clocked at 800/1000 and fps is insanely high about 40-70..
silky smooothhhh~

I can't wait to get my drill electric machine and make some holes on the bottom case (just right above the fan)

 

exactly!

coolest mode in coolsense disables turbo on the CPU, so you are running at 2.3ghz on all 4 cores the entire time rather than fluctuating between 800mhz-3.4ghz. 2.3ghz is more than enough to handle any of the current and future (couple of years at least) at the highest settings (as far as CPU bottleneck is concerned)

not only does disabling turbo make your gaming experience more stable, it also decreases internal temperatures significantly and therefore will make your laptops internal components last much longer.

moreover, it allows you to overclock your GPU much more given the same temperature threshold, and therefore actually increases your fps significantly indirectly.

 

Actually it does shares the same fan and your idea is perfectly right but there is something I wanna let you know. The GPU is on a different pipeline than the CPU and it is actually closer to the fan than the CPU is to the fan. Second you guys have got to stop making your CPU do soo much work since no game uses a cpu much at all it's all strain on the GPU(So like his idea is keeping your cpu running coolest as possible so gpu gets good cooling) so don't worry about throttling. Moreover you guys are getting 85s with coolsense on coolest?? and 95s with it off? You guys are pushing the thermal limit. I thought my paste was bad and mine doesn't go above 75 in gta playing for 1+hr and the gpu is more like 72C. I'm wondering if i redo my paste if I can get the temps down to how one of my cores is running(It's running 36s at idle while the others run 42-45) BTW how long does it take for your temps to go back down to 50s after stopping a game... mine takes long and the air is warm not hot so i think i can make is run much cooler.

 

Too bad Coolsense isnt avaliable on the DV7.

 

my gpu is getting maxed at 81c (during hardcore gaming, with coolest mode on) and 85c maxed furmark 15mins when full performance on coolsense.
during gaming never ever exceed 74c
your laptop cooling system is pretty good, you should try to repaste your cpu and gpu thermal paste + laptop cooler and viola! thats all you need to do for now.

by the way do you guys know how to run coolsense coolest setting at all time? (especially every time when windows starts)

 

Are you sure about the GPU having a separate cooling unit?
This was always my biggest design complaint about notebooks.
I haven't poked around inside yet, but I'd be very happy if it were true.

Second, it is about 76 F ambient temp and my processor is idling at 45-47 C.
It is significantly warmer than my old 13.1 in dual-core notebook would idle, but the greater number of metallic surfaces dissipate the heat much better.

Running Cinebench R11.5 bumps things to an average of 73 C w/o turbo boost. 30 secs after finishing rather quickly things have settled back to 49 C.
This is with fan speeds on default (auto)

The GPU should have been idle but its temps increased evenly with the CPU.
This is why I suspect they share the same copper pipeline.
Hot air alone wouldn't cook the GPU so quickly. The CPU and GPU must both be attached to something highly conductive.

It's true that doubling a CPU's output doesn't affect frame rate the same way doubling GPU output does. Once a game's CPU needs are met, anything more is largely irrelevant.

In a properly designed system even running full power shouldn't require "throttling" or a 'cool down' phase. Turbo boost/overclocking really throws a wrench into that perfect formula.

In all honesty I believe turbo boost was only intended to improve performance while a system is below its maximum healthy operating temperature. Using it all the time is the same as plugging a 85W processor into a system with only enough cooling to dissipate 70W of heat (for the whole system, CPU + GPU + Misc.)

Overheating while simultaneously OCing and TBing is the same as a tire flying off one's car on account of driving downhill 30MPH over the vehicle's top speed. You guys are driving the wheels off these things!

 

Not exactly a separate cooling unit just a dedicated pipeline. I haven't opened my computer yet either but when you look at the diagrams there are 2 separate pipelines for just the processor and then one pipe line to the GPU but the computer has two heatsinks. One copper pipe from the CPU goes the the back heatsink(The vents at back of laptop) and the copper pipe from the GPU and the second CPU pipe goes the the heatsink on the left side vents of the laptop. These stay so much cooler than my older DV4 but i would have liked it better if it had two fans but it's not running much warmer than alienware laptops. Plus i got my laptop for 600 taxes and everything soo i'm happy. BTW do you guys think i should send my laptop back for that core that is running 35C? Or is it a bad thermal job?

 

you should try to open up the laptop and repaste the thermal paste.
It should be fixing that problem.

 

So just got my DV6Tqe yesterday. I have the 1gb 6770, changed the bios to fixed and updated the software through hps website. I have the graphics set to high performance, coolsense at its coolest. I am getting 11 frames in Mass Effect 2. Not sure what is going on. Making me a little nervous really. Updated the game as well.

Ideas please?

 

Did you switch to high performance GPU? Right click on desktop and click configure switchable graphics and check if it's on High performance GPU.

 

my dv7 has coolsense

 

holy crap these things are low priced. It makes me sad that I paid the same much for 720qm 4gb and gt 230m when it first came out, but I returned it due to shoddy build quality and since they asked for $130 for an extra year on the warranty instead I picked the weaker notebook in my sig and its been doing great. It just isn't very good at playing games and people ask me why its so big and square ?